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Jocko Podcast

by Jocko DEFCOR Network

Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.

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Episodes

  1. 564: Overcoming Fear, Making Movies, and the Way of the Warrior Kid. With McG.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Director, producer, and filmmaker McG joins Jocko Willink and Echo Charles to share his extraordinary journey from the Southern California punk rock scene to directing some of Hollywood's biggest films. McG discusses working with Sugar Ray, Korn, and other...

  2. Jocko Underground: Turn an Inferior Mindset Into an Iron Mindset

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:22 – Turn an Inferior Mindset into an iron mindset 18:03 – Military mission-planning principles to the emotional and financial challenges of other missions in everyday life. 24:58 – How do I cope with the death of my son, support my wife and surviving...

  3. 563: The 3 Traits Every Great Leader Must Have According to Gen. Matthew Ridgway

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Examining General Matthew Ridgway's timeless leadership principles, exploring the importance of character, courage, competence, and the moral strength to challenge bad decisions. From the battlefields of World War II and Korea to the distractions of modern...

  4. Jocko Underground: Issues With Training Jiu Jitsu with Women Partners.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:29 — Training Jiu-Jitsu With Women: My wife is uncomfortable with me rolling with women? 08:55 — Being a Warrior With a Disability? 16:06 — Regretting Wasted Years: How do I stop regretting lost time and know I'm doing enough? 23:57 — Dealing With a...

  5. 562: The Deadly Cost of Bad Leadership. Lessons From Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. With Bing West

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Marine combat veteran, author, and former senior defense official Bing West joins Jocko to discuss the brutal realities of war, the strategic failures of military and political leadership, and the lessons America continues to overlook. Drawing on firsthand...

  6. Jocko Underground: When You're Ready For a New Chapter | Battling Fatigue In Life

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:00:00 – When You're Ready For a New Chapter? 00:06:33 – Struggling with chronic fatigue syndrome? 00:13:32 – Are leaders born with natural leadership abilities, or can leadership be learned? 00:24:00 – How do I choose between multiple job offers, and what...

  7. 561: The Art Of Command. Action, Initiative, and Judgement.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Breaking down General Melvin Zais’s 1977 speech Leadership and the Art of Command, exploring action, initiative, delegation, discipline, judgment, and the realities of leading people. After a lifetime of combat and command, Zais ultimately reduces effective...

  8. Jocko Underground: My View on Non-Combatant Military Members | How to Get Your Life Back

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:01:06 — Do combat veterans view conscientious objectors/noncombatant medics as honorable? 00:05:34 — My 3-year-old may have autism and kids are starting to make fun of him. How do I help him—and myself—handle it? 00:24:30 — I got sober and used harsh...

  9. 560: Leadership Is A Skill. Train It. With Jamie Cochran.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Jamie Cochran breaks down real-world leadership lessons from Echelon Front clients and organizations. They discuss overcoming resistance, merging cultures, developing leaders, taking ownership without doing everything yourself, and why leadership is a skill...

  10. Jocko Underground: The Reality When Your Boss Sucks and You Don't Respect Him At All.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 00:40 — How do I respect a leader I don’t respect or trust? 15:21 — How do I solve problems aggressively without being out of control? 27:22 — Should I keep pursuing more responsibility if it’s making work stressful? 38:55 — How do I stay calm when my kids…

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  11. 559: Turning Unimaginable Loss Into Purpose. The Legacy of Marc Lee. With Debbie Mama Lee

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Twenty years after Navy SEAL Marc Lee was killed in Ramadi, his mother Debbie “Mama Lee” Lee joins Jocko and Echo to reflect on grief, faith, brotherhood, and the legacy Marc left behind. They discuss the work of America’s Mighty Warriors, helping veterans...

  12. 558: What We Can Learn From John Spencer Almost Dying 20 Times.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Urban warfare expert and retired Army officer John Spencer returns to share stories from 20 Times I Almost Died, from Ranger School and Iraq to Ukraine, Gaza, and some incredibly close calls. Along the way, John and Jocko break down leadership, intuition,...

  13. Jocko Underground: This is How to be a Dependable Warrior.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< How to be a dependable warrior. At what point does being ultra competitive become a weakness? How to mentally get back on track in life. How to kick the remaining vices in your life. How to guide a 3 year old in life. Support this podcast at —...

  14. 557: Stop Waiting for the Perfect Answer. Go.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Every decision has consequences—and the small decisions made repeatedly can eventually shape your entire life. Jocko and Echo break down how to make better decisions under uncertainty, when to trust experience and intuition, how to avoid paralysis through...

  15. Jocko Underground: The Guy Who Called Out Rener Gracie's Purple Belts and Got Embarrassed.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< The Guy Who Called Out Rener Gracie's Purple Belts and Got Embarrassed. Maxed out for time, but training for a personal challenge. How to solve a problem riddled worker on your team. When a workout partner doesn't have as much dedication. Got beat up by my...

  16. 556: The World Belongs to the Brazen and The Brave.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Continuing examination of René Quinton's Maxims on War, exploring courage, danger, ambition, leadership, obedience, and the randomness of combat. The discussion ultimately comes back to a powerful principle for war and everyday life: learn to distinguish…

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  17. 555: The Nature Of Man Is War

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< René Quinton’s extreme ideas about war, human nature, struggle, and heroism. They examine why humans are drawn to conflict and why a life of comfort may be something worth fighting against. 0:00 – René Quinton & Maxims on War 4:21 – Does Human Nature Love…

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  18. Jocko Underground: The Safety Protocol for Your Kids When They're On Their Own.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< What is the safety protocol for your kids when they are on their own. Training Jiu Jitsu with limitations. The difference between a leadership failure and a hiring failure. How to eliminate crippling doubt while achieving your goals in life. What to do if…

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  19. 554: Maximum Efficiency On The Front Lines of Battle and Life

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Breaking down raw, firsthand combat lessons from U.S. Army soldiers fighting their way through World War II—lessons written in the field by men who had just experienced the consequences of good decisions, bad decisions, aggression, hesitation, discipline…

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  20. Jocko Underground: Jonah Hill's Tough Talk About His Jiu Jitsu Skill.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Jonah Hill's Tough Talk About His Jiu Jitsu Skill. The best way to get forgiveness after terrible behavior in the past. Thoughts on the worries of climate change and the worlds problems. How to save your marriage if it's on thin ice. Sacrificing sleep for…

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  21. 553: Becoming Brothers Through Battle, Death, and Honor in Ramadi. With Miguel "Pitbull" Santana.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Book: Unheard Voices The Fight For Ramadi: A Soldier’s Memoir From Combat Outpost Falcon In 2006, Miguel “Pitbull” Santana and his soldiers entered Ramadi, Iraq—a city many believed was already lost. What followed was months of relentless combat, sacrifice,...

  22. Jocko Underground: Why Do People Refuse to Learn or Talk About The Future Of The World Around Us?

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< People don't want to learn about what's coming in the future. The differences in our definition of "Leadership". How to get your kids to take on interests that stick. What to do when you've outgrown the drinking crowd. What to do if you have trust issues…

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  23. 552: How The Mindset of A Sniper Apply to Life. With JP Dinnell.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Being a sniper isn't just about shooting. It's about observation, patience, preparation, adaptability, and making the right decision at exactly the right moment. Jocko and JP Dinnell explore the unseen skills behind elite snipers, telling stories from combat...

  24. Jocko Underground: If Someone Is From Iran and Wants to Move to The USA?

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< If Someone Is From Iran and Wants to Move to The USA? How to earn respect from people with more experience in life. How to be excellent while balancing family, health, and life. How to be more of an action-taker. How to make things happen when you don't…

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  25. 551: Relationships Over Rank. Trust Over Authority

    >Subscribe to Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Breaking down why strong relationships consistently outperform rank, how great leaders develop confident teams instead of micromanaging them, and why every interaction is an opportunity to train. From chain of command to building trust, this episode…

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  26. Jocko Underground: Keep Your Insanity In a Frustrating World

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< How to Keep Your Insanity In a Frustrating World. Uncontrollable hygiene issues on the Jiu Jitsu mats? Moral-driven altercations in public. What to do. Feeling aimless in life, here's what to do. Rebuilding your life after you messed it up. Support this...

  27. 550: The Company Commander's Playbook for Leadership

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Using the Marine Corps Company Commander's Handbook as a guide, Jocko and Echo discuss what every leader should know before taking over a team: setting expectations, establishing a command philosophy, earning trust, leading through influence, and creating a...

  28. Jocko Underground: Break The Cycle - Getting Over The Trauma of An Abusive Parent.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Getting Over The Trauma of An Abusive Parent. Should you get in shape before starting JiuJitsu? What to do when your ex is publicly smearing your reputation. How to get two groups to work together who don't like each other. How to handle people around you…

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  29. 549: Everyone is Judging—and Being Judged. Breaking Down Self-Awareness, Humility, and Respect

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Everyone is judging—and being judged. Breaking down how self-awareness, humility, and respect determine your effectiveness as a leader, why perception matters, and how ego quietly destroys influence Support this podcast at —...

  30. Jocko Underground: Is It Possible to Get The Actual Truth From Modern Media?

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Is It Possible to Get The Actual Truth From Modern Media? How to prepare for a baby on the way. Getting the most out of learning Jiu Jitsu moves as a beginner. How to motivate a complacent person. Chasing a risky dream when you have a stable job. Support…

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  31. 548: The Importance of Morale and How to Develop It.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< The military review US Army Command and General Staff College, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, again, November 1960Drawing from rarely discussed military journals written during the Cold War, Jocko and Echo explore the timeless principles behind morale, trust,...

  32. Jocko Underground: What to do When Life Seems To Be Unsatisfying.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< What to do When Life Seems To Be Unsatisfying. How to excel when you get promoted quickly. Are you living life by any code? Are you contemplating law enforcement? The best way to get over a bad day on the mats and in life. Support this podcast at —...

  33. 547: How to Master Uncertainty. With (Ret) SEAL Commander, Rich Diviney

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Retired Navy SEAL officer Rich Diviney returns to break down why fear isn't the enemy—uncertainty is. From combat and BUD/S to business and everyday life, Rich explains practical methods for staying composed under pressure, overcoming anxiety, and performing...

  34. Jocko Underground: Getting Over Overwhelming Sadness and Guilt from Tragedy.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Getting over overwhelming guilt from tragedy. How should civilians respectfully ask veterans about their combat experiences without minimizing their sacrifices or making them uncomfortable? As a new Navy chaplain, how can I best earn the trust of sailors and...

  35. 546: The Myth of Being in Control: Marine Corps Doctrine on Command and Control

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Why the best leaders stop trying to control everything. Jocko and Cory break down Marine Corps doctrine on command and control, explaining why decentralized leadership, trust, feedback, and initiative outperform micromanagement in business, combat, and life....

  36. Jocko Underground: Is It Reasonable to Relax Your Situational Awareness Sometimes?

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< 1. Sleep or Stay Alert? Question: As a frequent traveler, how do you balance situational awareness with the need to sleep while traveling? 2. Is It Time to Leave Law Enforcement? Question: With police officers increasingly being prosecuted after use-of-force...

  37. 545: The Journey Through Pain, Purpose, and Resilience. With Mason Wright.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Mason Wright ("Buff Runner") went from childhood trauma, loss, and depression to completing a 1,000-mile run around a high school track. In this conversation, he shares how sports saved him, how he survived some of the darkest moments of his life, and why...

  38. 544: How Good Men Lose Their Moral Compass

    >Join Jocko Underground: Full Episodes< Drawing from hard lessons learned during wartime, Jocko and Echo explore the psychological traps that cause individuals and organizations to drift from their values. A deep discussion on ethics, responsibility, leadership, and the warning signs that trouble...

  39. 543: Don't Wait to Get Punched in the Face. The Best Way to Adapt And Learn.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< The world keeps changing. Your competition is learning. Are you? Looking into the power of adaptation, effective teaching, uncertainty, and the mindset required to keep growing when everyone else is standing still. Support this podcast at —...

  40. Jocko Underground: Losing My Faith in Humanity and The World.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Losing My Faith in Humanity and The World. Could you take a dangerous submission to the limit if you had to? Taking a promotion and more money but stress on the family. Should you move out of your town because of social political reasons? Can't seem to get...

  41. 542: Stronghold: War, Rescue, and Resistance. With Ephraim Mattos

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Ephraim Mattos explains how Stronghold Rescue & Relief trains local people to save lives in one of the world’s deadliest ongoing conflicts. Stronghold Rescue | https://strongholdrescue.org/ The Overwatch | https://www.theoverwatch.co/ Support this podcast at…

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  42. Jocko Underground: When Your Disciplined Life Has Left You Lonely w/ No Social Connections

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< When your disciplined lifestyle has left you lonely and lacking social connections. Meeting The Standard To Be Prepared For Service And Life. What to do: I committed my life to a career I don't like. Establishing boundaries with parents and in-laws. Moving…

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  43. 541: Skills, Struggle, and Responsibility. With Jimmy May.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Jimmy May returns to discuss life after the military, helping veterans transition, building stronger families, and teaching the next generation resilience and responsibility. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

  44. Jocko Underground: The Dangers and Protocol of Carrying A Gun in An Altercation.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< The Dangers and Protocol of Carrying A Gun in An Altercation. When there's a problematic co-worker that is in good with the boss. How Ecclesiastes wisdom informs the philosophy of Extreme Ownership. How to teach and be a role model to modern young people.…

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  45. 540: Saved By The Corps. From A Path of Destruction, to Success. With Ben Ingram.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Ben Ingram was headed toward prison or worse. Drugs, street fights, and survival mode defined his youth—until one decision changed everything: joining the Marines. Warriors In Need < Support this podcast at —...

  46. Jocko Underground: How To Deal With Public Transgressions Against You from Someone.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< How To Deal With Public Transgressions Against You from Someone. Teaching the new generation when the odds are stacked against them. Dealing with jealousy, grief, and loss... all at the same time. How do we feel about crying in Jiu Jitsu? Dealing with...

  47. 539: Elevate From The Gray Slop In Your Head.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Breaking down the battle between the limbic system and the prefrontal cortex — emotion versus reason. Why people panic, escalate conflict, make terrible decisions, and how to detach from the “gray slop” in your head. Support this podcast at —...

  48. Jocko Underground: Struggling with Measuring Up to Your Fiance's Ex.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Insecurity with comparing yourself to her ex. Insecure and sensitive boss. What to do when you feel stuck in your career. What to do when your kid is scared to take Jiu Jitsu class. What to do when you're struggling to find purpose in life. Support this...

  49. 538: The Legendary Speech on How Leaders Should Lead. Major C.A. Bach Back, 1917.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Breaking down Major C.A. Bach’s legendary 1917 leadership speech and separates timeless leadership truths from outdated doctrine. They cover earning respect instead of demanding it, why confidence comes from preparation, when leaders should apologize, how to...

  50. Jocko Underground: Would Jocko Do An MMA Fight? | Career Opportunity VS Family Needs

    >Get Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Would Jocko Do An MMA fight? When you should and shouldn't get a dog. Getting a hold of a haphazard schedule and staying on the path. What to do if you think you have a good leader, but a bad team. Career opportunity VS family needs. Support this podcast at —...

About this show

Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.

Hosted by

Jocko DEFCOR Network

Frequently asked questions

How many episodes does Jocko Podcast have?

Jocko Podcast has 905 episodes on PodParley. The most recent episode was published on October 28, 2026.

What is Jocko Podcast about?

Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.

How often does Jocko Podcast release new episodes?

Jocko Podcast publishes a few times a week, based on its 905 episodes since December 2015.

Who hosts Jocko Podcast?

Jocko Podcast is created and hosted by Jocko DEFCOR Network.
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