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Jump Podcast
by Jump Associates
The Jump Podcast is the conversation for you, our tribe of future-focused business leaders. Hosts Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola explore the most pressing issues in business strategy, culture, and leadership, with insights that help even the most seasoned strategists reframe how to lead and how to plan for What's Next. From interviews with thought leaders to Headlines from the Future, The Jump Podcast aims to widen your perspective to plan for change before the ground shifts beneath your feet.
Episodes
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Leadership Lessons: Agency, Trust and Choosing Wisely
What changes when leaders step away from the demands of the quarter and spend a few days looking further out? Recorded live at the Jump Offsite in Napa, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik reflect on conversations about consciousness, AI, and the choices that shape our future. They explore why...
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The Danger of Fewer, Bigger Bets
“Fewer, bigger bets” sounds like disciplined strategy. So why can it be such a dangerous approach to growth? In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik unpack how a push for focus can quietly send companies into harvest mode. They explain why the biggest opportunities leaders can see...
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Future-Focused Leadership: How to Prepare for What’s Next
Most leaders know they should be thinking about the future. So why do so few actually do it? In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik unpack the assumptions that keep leaders trapped in the present. They explain why being future focused doesn’t mean hiring a futurist, why spotting...
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The Exceptions: How To Win When Your Industry Is Losing
Inflation is up, wars are dragging on, and most of the stock market's gains are locked inside a handful of AI giants... so what happens to everyone else? In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik go hunting for the exceptions: companies thriving inside industries that are supposedly...
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The Future of Work and Meaning
AI is no longer just a tool to learn, it’s becoming an existential question about work, education, and what it means to be human. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik unpack the growing anxiety around AI, from students booing commencement speakers to workers wondering what kind...
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Invisible Rules: A Conversation with Ujwal Arkalgud
If you’ve ever tried to push a new idea through a large organization, you probably know the feeling: the strategy is solid, the data is there, and somehow the idea still goes nowhere. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik sit down with cultural anthropologist and MotivBase...
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The Real Reason Why Companies Fail
In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik take on one of business’s oldest questions: Why do great companies actually fail? Is it really arrogance and complacency that bring companies down… or is that just a narrative we’ve been telling ourselves for centuries? From the chaos…
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Focused Challenges: A Conversation with Anousheh Ansari
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev Patnaik sits down with Anousheh Ansari to explore the power of bold challenges and “moonshot” thinking. Anousheh shares the story behind the early days of the XPRIZE Foundation, from the audacious $10M prize that helped kickstart private spaceflight to the...
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Leadership: Taking the ICE Test
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dig into what’s unfolding in Minneapolis and why it has become a real time stress test for leadership. As immigration enforcement spills into everyday life and disrupts business, they explore why this moment is not just...
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Go Big: Starting the Year With Focused Challenges
It’s a new year, unwritten and full of possibility. Before the noise and distractions rush in, take a moment to decide what direction you actually want your company to head. The most disruptive companies in history didn’t lead with 50-page strategy decks; they rallied people around big, focused...
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2025 Headlines from the Future
AI-induced layoffs. Chatbot psychosis. Climate disasters. Gene-editing breakthroughs. Self-driving cars. 2025 felt like a sci-fi movie trailer. In this year-end episode, Dev and Michelle take us beyond the moments and examine the momentum underneath it all—the shifts rewiring markets…
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AI & Humanity's Extinction: A Conversation with Stuart Russell
A couple episodes back, we sat with an AI optimist. Now we’re heading to the other end of the spectrum. Stuart Russell—UC Berkeley professor, co-author of the field’s definitive AI textbook, and one of the world’s most respected experts—brings a far more concerning view of where AI may take us....
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The Wisdom Gap: How Modern Leadership Fails Without 4 Essential Capabilities
In a world overflowing with information, wisdom is surprisingly hard to come by. We dig into the difference between wisdom and knowledge, why knowledge doesn't necessarily precede wisdom, and how leaders can cultivate it (doing, reflecting, coaching). We close from Headlines from the Future,...
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AI & The Next Renaissance: A Conversation with Zack Kass
We sit down with Zack Kass, global AI advisor, former Head of Go-To-Market at OpenAI, and author of The Next Renaissance, for his take on where artificial intelligence is headed and how it will shape our future. Zack’s undeniably optimistic outlook anticipates a golden age where access to...
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Lululemon: Scaling What Makes You Great
Last week, Lululemon’s founder and former CEO fired shots at the company with a full-page ad in The Wall Street Journal. And the numbers are on his side—the company's stock has plummeted more than 50% in the past year. In this episode, we unpack what the clash reveals about the challenge of…
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The Great Lock In of 2025
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev and Michelle unpack the “Great Lock-In of 2025”, a viral challenge born on TikTok that they reframe for strategy leaders. They challenge executives to treat Q4 as “Q0”, a time to run small experiments, close open loops, and reset leadership habits before…
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Disney and Jimmy Kimmel: The Real Story is Strategy
Disney’s decision to suspend—and later reinstate—late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel is all anyone can talk about. The involvement of Trump-appointed FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has sparked debate over free speech and potential government overreach. But Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola…
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Jump Offsite 2025: What Future Are We Building?
What kind of future are we actually building—and is it one we want to live in? Live from Jump Offsite 2025 in Napa Valley, Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola share takeaways from three days of deep dives, bold ideas, and uncomfortable truths. AI is accelerating, but do we really understand…
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AI Thought Partners: A Conversation with Shannon Heald
We speak with cognitive scientist Shannon Heald to explore what it really means for AI to be a thought partner, and why the missing piece is metacognition. We examine how we’ve moved from offloading memory, with tools like maps and lists, to offloading generation with large language models, and...
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The Science of Spirituality: A Conversation with Lisa Miller
What if your greatest leadership tool isn’t in your spreadsheet, but in your spirit? In this profound and provocative episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik are joined by Dr. Lisa Miller—Columbia professor and author of The Awakened Brain—to explore the science of spirituality and its...
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Reinventing Financial Services: A Conversation with Anders Jones
Customer service may be stuck in the past, but finance doesn’t have to be. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik talk with Anders Jones, CEO and co-founder of Facet, a fintech company shaking up the traditional wealth management model. Facet’s subscription-based service brings...
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The Future of Entertainment: A Conversation with Diana Williams
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik sit down with Diana Williams, CEO of Kinetic Energy Entertainment, to talk about where stories are headed next. From Star Wars to immersive VR, Diana shares how the rules of media are being rewritten, from who owns the...
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The Streaming Wars: How to Write a Winning Playbook
HBO is HBO again—but what does that really mean? In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dive into the streaming wars, using HBO Max’s identity crisis as a masterclass in brand strategy. From dizzying rebrands to the pitfalls of copycatting Netflix, they unpack why rediscovering...
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Sputnik to Stanford: Why Innovation Still Lives in Silicon Valley
Is Silicon Valley still the epicenter of innovation, or has the magic moved elsewhere? In this thought-provoking episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik revisit the 2020 exodus narrative and dissect what really happened to the Valley. They explore how proximity, culture, and…
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Wiser by Design: Evolving Leadership Mindsets
Smart is good. Wise is better. In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why today’s leaders need more than just intelligence to thrive, they need wisdom. They explore the difference between solving complicated versus ambiguous problems, why empathy…
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Winning Today While Building Tomorrow
How do you win today without tripping over tomorrow? In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola explore what it really means to balance the now and the next. They spotlight companies like Microsoft, CVS, Walmart, Delta, and Visa—each showing how strategic...
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Tariffs, Transparency, and the Art of Strategic Relationships
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik unpack the rollercoaster world of tariffs—and why your strategy might need more than a spreadsheet to survive it. As new policies throw global markets into chaos, the duo explores how the smartest leaders are tuning out…
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Strategy: Not What, but When
What if the secret to smarter strategy isn’t what you’re doing—but when you’re doing it? In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola dive into why timing might be the most underrated part of strategic thinking. From crisis mode to long-term vision, they break down...
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Pivoting to the Future: A Conversation with Ross Rosenberg of Magic Leap
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik sit down with Ross Rosenberg, CEO of Magic Leap, to unpack the future of augmented reality and how a startup can outmaneuver tech giants. Ross shares Magic Leap’s evolution from consumer-focused AR to precision-driven B2B...
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DEI Is Dead: Get Ready for Diversity
In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dive headfirst into the DEI discussionand why so many companies are getting it wrong. From major brands walking back diversity initiatives to activist investors applying pressure, the duo unpacks what’s performative…
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The Five Big Things: Finding Focus in a Chaotic 2025
Ever feel like your to-do list is longer than a CVS receipt? You’re not alone. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why leaders struggle to focus and how narrowing down to just five key priorities can be a game-changer. They discuss why leaders need to actually…
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Getting Fracked: How Even Great Businesses Fall Behind
Even great businesses can get fracked. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why even well-run companies can get blindsided by external forces beyond their control. They introduce the "Fracked List," a framework categorizing companies into four groups: the totally...
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Separating the Signal from the Noise
In this season opener, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik explore the critical challenge of distinguishing between fleeting "moments" and long-term "momentum" in business and life. From electric vehicle adoption to AI’s evolving impact on the workforce, they discuss how leaders can resist the...
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The Future is Here: Top Headlines from 2024
It’s a bird, it’s a plane…it’s the end of 2024! In this special episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev and Michelle reminisce on the year we’ve had. And what a year it has been! From de-globalization to UFO sightings, from AI agents reshaping consumer behavior to GLP-1 drugs revolutionizing health...
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Building Leadership Resilience in Today’s World
Leadership is facing a slow-motion train wreck. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why burnout is skyrocketing among senior leaders and why organizations are struggling to prepare their top talent for the challenges ahead. They explore the differences between...
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Staying on the Right Side of History
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik discuss the challenge of keeping businesses on the “right side of history.” Through lively examples—from the decline of cigarette sales and the rise of cannabis to the shift toward healthier food choices—they explore how...
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Only the Paranoid Survive: Knowing Your Doomsday Scenario
In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik delve into the importance of knowing your business's “doomsday scenario.” They explore how companies like Google and Universal Music Group tackle their biggest existential threats, whether from AI disruption, regulatory pressures, or market...
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What Tesla Missed: Successful Innovation Needs Trust
In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down the latest from Tesla’s We, Robot event and what it reveals about innovation in today’s world. From robo-taxis to humanoid robots that could babysit your kids, they discuss why so many are skeptical of Elon Musk's grand visions.…
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Sustainability: A Conversation with Ryan Baum
In today’s business landscape, sustainability often gets framed as a sacrifice, but Ryan Baum is here to flip that script. In this episode, Michelle and Dev sit down with Ryan, a partner at Jump Associates, to explore how companies can make a good sustainability strategy work for their bottom…
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Jump Offsite Takeaways - Live from the Carneros
“Jump Offsite, this is Dev Patnaik with Michelle Loret de Mola, can you hear me...?" In this special episode of the Jump Podcast, recorded live from the Carneros Resort in Napa Valley, California, Dev and Michelle bring the energy from our three unforgettable days together. If you made it out to...
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Biomimicry: A Conversation with Janine Benyus
As our society pushes for sustainable development, the ancient strategies of the natural world offer a fresh perspective on modern innovation. In this episode, Michelle and Dev dive into the world of biomimicry with Janine Benyus, cofounder of the Biomimicry Institute. The conversation explores…
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AI Changing Workflows: A Conversation with Ian Beacraft
As AI continues to shape the future of industries around the globe, understanding its practical applications is essential. In this episode, Michelle and Dev welcome Ian Beacraft, renowned futurist and CEO of Signal and Cypher, to discuss the transformative power of AI in modern workflows. Ian...
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Fighting Friction: A Conversation with Bob Sutton
Friction is a natural part of any organization, but it’s not necessarily a beneficial one. As organizations grow to tackle more complexity, it is important for leaders to identify and minimize unnecessary friction while fostering an environment where productive friction can thrive. In this…
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A Real Approach to Artificial Intelligence
Since ChatGPT's release in November 2022, AI has revolutionized the world, driving unprecedented innovation across industries and transforming how businesses operate. Companies are leveraging AI for everything from creating synthetic audiences for real-time insights to assisting engineers with...
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Microtribes: Navigating Growth in a Fragmented Market
Across industries, execs are racing to drive consumer demand. Some are looking to spur enough product innovation to meet their ambitious growth goals. Others are building new loyalty programs that will keep consumers coming back for more. B2B companies are focusing on new sales incentive programs...
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After Me, the Flood: Exec Succession Planning
Jamie Dimon recently announced that he plans to step down from his role as CEO of JPMorgan within the next five years. In this episode, Michelle and Dev dive into Dimon's retirement plans, the implications for JPMorgan, and how future-focused leaders can prepare for their own succession. This...
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Driving Customer Loyalty by Rethinking Customer Value
Starbucks became a gold standard in the beverage industry for not only selling creative drinks that people loved, but for creating a “third place” for people to connect. Recent earnings calls, though, reflect the company’s struggles with retaining customers amid inflation. In this episode, Dev…
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When to Double Down and When to Walk Away
Walmart’s decision to close all of its medical clinics can seem like a bad omen for other disruptors in the primary care space, like Walgreens. At the same time, Amazon is doubling down on its investment in healthcare. Is Walmart doing the right thing for its future? In this episode, Dev and...
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When Is It Okay to Fake It in Innovation?
Innovation has a long and complicated relationship with the “fake it until you make it” mindset. It’s common in the startup world to use unscalable, manual techniques to test demand for a product or service—and then automate processes later on. In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss notable...
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Rethinking Your Innovation Strategy
While most large companies have an established approach to innovation, few have one that really works–or one that will get them to their next phase of growth. In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss how leaders can fundamentally rethink their innovation strategy based on their unique strengths...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Jump Podcast is the conversation for you, our tribe of future-focused business leaders.
Hosts Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola explore the most pressing issues in business strategy, culture, and leadership, with insights that help even the most seasoned strategists reframe how to lead and how to plan for What's Next.
From interviews with thought leaders to Headlines from the Future, The Jump Podcast aims to widen your perspective to plan for change before the ground shifts beneath your feet.
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