Jungian Ever After

We continue our coverage of The Odyssey with a focus on proper sacrifice and hospitality rules. As we cannot read the entire epic, there's no main story reading for this episode. However, towards the very end of the episode, Raisa reads a summary of Odysseus's reunion with Penelope from ⁠Claudio Patrini's, "Odyssey: Symbols and Meaning."⁠Reading begins | 41:19Reading ends | 43:03There are many versions of The Odyssey out there, but these are the ones that we have found most recommended⁠Stephen Mitchell translation.⁠ (Adina's read this one)⁠Robert Fagles translation.⁠ (Raisa listened to the audiobook version, read by Sir Ian McKellan)⁠Emily Wilson translation.⁠ (First translation by a woman and entirely in iambic pentameter. Highly recommended by Raisa's wife, brother, and many others. Unfortunately the audiobook is exclusively on Audible)⁠Stephen Fry retelling.⁠ (A contemporary version that adds extra context and is easy to digest. Brilliantly narrated by Stephen Fry himself. Raisa listened to this one first before moving on to Fagles and McKellan)Our intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Email: [email protected] (This is not an email used by or for the C.G. Jung Institute of Chicago)Discord: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

In preparation for the upcoming Christopher Nolan film, we begin our coverage of The Odyssey with a focus on the isles of Polyphemus and Calypso. As the story is far too long to read aloud, Raisa reads a summary of Odysseus's encounter with Polyphemus from Claudio Patrini's, "Odyssey: Symbols and Meaning."Story begins | 11:40Story ends | 16:28There are many versions of The Odyssey out there, but these are the ones that we have found most recommendedStephen Mitchell translation. (Adina's read this one)Robert Fagles translation. (Raisa listened to the audiobook version, read by Sir Ian McKellan)Emily Wilson translation. (First translation by a woman and entirely in iambic pentameter. Highly recommended by Raisa's wife, brother, and many others. Unfortunately the audiobook is exclusively on Audible)Stephen Fry retelling. (A contemporary version that adds extra context and is easy to digest. Brilliantly narrated by Stephen Fry himself. Raisa listened to this one first before moving on to Fagles and McKellan)Our intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Email: [email protected] (This is not an email used by or for the C.G. Jung Institute of Chicago)Discord: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

We analyze the story of Medea and her embodiment of perhaps the most disturbing archetype - the Death Mother.*Content warning: Infanticide*Story begins | 8:32Story ends | 26:25This episode we will be reading from Medea, by Euripides (Translated by Rex Warner). The following is also referenced in this episode:The Death Mother as Nature's Shadow: Infanticide, Abandonment and The Collective Unconscious - by Daniella SieffOur intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Email: [email protected]: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

The first of a grim pair of episodes depicting filicide within Greek myths. We piece together the story of Agamemnon's sacrificing Iphigenia for favorable winds - and the fallout of such action after the war. All this with an eye for how the choices parents make either support or harm the parents' individuation.Story begins | 4:52Story ends | 20:07This episode we will be reading from Mythology, by Edith Hamilton. The following are also referenced in this episode:The Red Book: Liber Novus - by C.G. JungMercury Rising: Women, Evil and the Trickster Gods - by Deldon Anne McNeelyOur intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Email: [email protected]: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

While our last episode discussed Orpheus through the lens of archetypal creativity, this episode focuses on the grief elements of the story as depicted in Ovid's version of the story. We share our own grief stories and explore the hazards experienced when people do not allow themselves to grieve.Story begins | 3:10Story ends | 9:22This episode we will be reading from:Metamorphoses - by Ovid⁠⁠⁠Parables and Portraits - by Stephen MitchellOrpheus. Euridice. Hermes. - by Rainer Maria RilkeYou can listen to El Maleh Rachamim prayer on My Jewish Learning here. This prayer asks God to grant rest to departed souls and is often recited at funerals.Our intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Email: [email protected]: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

We begin our coverage of Orpheus and Euridice. This episode is primarily focused on the archetypal power of creativity as demonstrated in Edith Hamilton's telling of the story. We will read Ovid's version and dig into other elements of the story in the following episode. Story begins | 2:35Story ends | 11:04This episode we will be reading from:⁠⁠⁠⁠Mythology - by Edith Hamilton⁠⁠⁠⁠We recommend watching part or all of the opera L'Orfeo. You can find a video with English subtitles here.⁠Our intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠⁠⁠⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠⁠⁠⁠.Email: [email protected]: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

We recorded this shortly after the 2024 US election results but, as it took some time to edit, we decided to post on inauguration day. In a time when self-absorbed billionaires have taken control of government, this episode's topic feels particularly relevant. Story begins | 2:00 Story ends | 6:20 This episode we will be reading from: Metamorphoses, by Ovid. Translation by Mary M. Innes. Our intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠⁠⁠⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠⁠⁠⁠. Email: [email protected] Discord: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

This episode departs from the physicality of Hercules' deeds to discuss a more spiritual tale of love. Eros and Psyche is in many ways a story in opposition to Hercules. For while he remains emotionally unchanged by the end of his tale, the very core of this love story is emotional development. Story begins | 2:50 Story ends | 26:02 This episode we will be reading from: ⁠⁠⁠Mythology - by Edith Hamilton⁠⁠⁠ Adina's extra reading comes from: Alchemy of the Soul: The Eros and Psyche Myth as a Guide to Transformation - by Martin Lowenthal You're Not What I Expected - by Polly Young-Eisendrath Our intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠⁠⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠⁠⁠. Email: [email protected] Discord: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

In this episode we discuss the story of Hercules, the strongest man and perhaps the most well known of Greek heroes. While folks are probably familiar with general highlights of his story, many of the finer details may be surprising. After consuming the entirety of his legend, it's hard to call it anything else but tragic.Story begins | 2:30Story ends | 16:55This season we will be reading from: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Mythology by Edith Hamilton⁠⁠Our intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠⁠.Email: [email protected]: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠⁠Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

We bring you our first story episode of season 2! No pantheon is without its creation story and it seemed an obvious place to start for our season of Greek mythology. We discuss the archetypes of creation stories with some comparisons to biblical creation and... The Big Bang Theory? Story begins | 14:03 Story ends | 20:02 This season we will be reading from: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Mythology by Edith Hamilton⁠ Our intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at ⁠FreeMusicArchive.org⁠. Email: [email protected] Discord: ⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠⁠ Ko-fi: ⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

Our first episode of season 2! In a way this is episode 0 because it is an introduction to the members of the Greek pantheon and some of our opinions on them. This season we will be reading from: ⁠⁠Mythology by Edith Hamilton Our intro/outro music a sample of Seikilos Epitaph with the Lyre of Apollo, by Lina Palera, under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 International License. You can find the full version at FreeMusicArchive.org. Email: [email protected] Discord: ⁠⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠⁠ Ko-fi: ⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

Our final episode of season 1 is a story near and dear to Raisa. This episode gets a lot more personal than some, as we discuss periods of awakening and transformation from various points in our own lives. The story is from ⁠Household Tales by Brothers Grimm⁠ and is read starting at 7:19 and ending at 15:25. Adina also recommends: ⁠The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales⁠ (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at ⁠freemusicarchive.org⁠ Email: [email protected] Twitter: ⁠@JEA_Podcast⁠ Discord: ⁠https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR⁠ Ko-fi: ⁠https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

The story is Little Red Cap this time, better known as Little Red Riding Hood. We discuss such topics as the 3 faces of the Great Mother, the nature of wolves, and of course our good friend Trickster. Please note that there is also some discussion of rape in this episode, if that is something that will upset you, this may be one to skip. The story is from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm and is read starting at 2:26 and ending at 11:43. Adina also recommends: The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. The Trials and Tribulations of Little Red Riding Hood. Edited by Jack D. Zipes.  Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at freemusicarchive.org Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

Our part 2 coverage of Snow White discusses Anima/Animus and how it has shaped the way people perceive and project gender roles at varying points in history.  The story is from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm and is read starting at 6:24 and ending at 24:55 of the PREVIOUS episode (episode 7). Adina also recommends: The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. The Feminine in Fairy Tales. Written by Marie-Louise von Franz. Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at freemusicarchive.org Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

After an unplanned hiatus, we're back! Snow White is one of the most recognized fairy tale stories and characters but, as usual, not many people are familiar with the Grimm version. Part one centers around Archetypal Evil and how it taints those who come into contact with it.  The story is from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm and is read starting at 6:24 and ending at 24:55. Adina also recommends: The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. Shadow and Evil in Fairy Tales. Written by Marie-Louise von Franz. Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at freemusicarchive.org Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

This underrated fairy tale has a lot more to it than either of us would have guessed. We discuss fear of abandonment, resilience, and how they relate to a few current events as of the show's recording. The story is from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm and is read starting at 3:21 and ending at 20:10. Adina also recommends: The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. The Uses of Enchantment: The Meaning and Importance of Fairy Tales. Written by Bruno Bettelheim. Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at freemusicarchive.org Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

This second part of our Rumpelstiltskin coverage focuses on the Trickster archetype. We talk about places that Trickster emerges in pop culture before analyzing the ways in which both Rumpel and the miller's daughter channel trickster energy. Part one's story was read last month from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm. Adina also recommends: The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. On the Psychology of the Trickster Figure. Written by C.G. Jung. Trickster Makes This World: Mischief, Myth, and Art. Written by Lewis Hyde. Judith Cooper speaks many times about Trickster on the podcast Jungianthology. Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at freemusicarchive.org Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

Rumpelstiltskin is a character the we love from the show Once Upon a Time, but the original story isn't commonly consumed. We have split our analysis once more into two parts. This first one covers narcissism and persona while part 2 will focus solely on the Trickster archetype.  The story is read from 6:20 - 13:15 Trigger warning for sexual abuse from 49:50 - 52:10 We'll be reading from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm Adina also recommends: The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at freemusicarchive.org Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

One of the most popular fairy tales, Cinderella, especially as told by Grimm, contains two major themes. So, we've split our analysis into 2 parts. This second episode speaks of the dehumanizing power of envy. There is a brief recap of the story at the 2:00 mark.  We'll be reading from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm Adina also recommends: Cinderella and her Sisters: The Envied and Envying by Ann Belford Ulanov, Barry Ulanov The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at freemusicarchive.org Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

One of the most popular fairy tales, Cinderella, especially as told by Grimm, contains two major themes. So, we've split our analysis into 2 parts. This first episode speaks of the healing power of grief, while next month we will discuss the role of envy.  The story reading takes place from 8:06 to 22:48 We'll be reading from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm Adina also recommends: Cinderella and her Sisters: The Envied and Envying by Ann Belford Ulanov, Barry Ulanov The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at freemusicarchive.org Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

We begin our Grimm journey with the story of Rapunzel! A tale of irresponsible parents, a tower of isolation with no stairs or door, and the persecutor/protector that exists in all of us. The story reading takes place from 9:22 to 18:18 We'll be reading from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm Adina also recommends:  The Inner World of Trauma by Donald Kalshed The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. Our intro/outro music is from Antoni Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, performed by John Harrison with the Wichita State University Chamber Players. You can find the original at freemusicarchive.org Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter

Allow us to introduce ourselves and why we're making this show! We'll be reading from Household Tales by Brothers Grimm Adina also recommends: The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales (Pantheon Fairy Tale And Folklore Library). If attempting to purchase this, be sure it says, "with Padraic Colum (intro) and Joseph Campbell (commentary) and James Scharl (illustr)". Amazon considers all versions to be the same book, so you could accidentally buy a copy without those key elements. Email: [email protected] Twitter: @JEA_Podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/GEdn4TPgHR Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/jungianeverafter