Kinswomen
by The Kinswomen
The Kinswomen aim to build more trust and bridge the gaps between women of color and white women through difficult, uncomfortable, but cathartic conversations. Named Best Podcasts of 2020 by Elle, Cosmo, and Marie Claire. Hosted by Yseult Mukantabana and Hannah Summerhill.
Episodes
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Ep 70: Why Diet Culture is White Supremacy with Jessica Wilson
Jessica Wilson, dietician and author of "It's Always Been Ours: Rewriting the Story of Black Women's Bodies" joins us to discuss food apartheid, how eating disorder frameworks fail BIPOC, why her version of vulnerability has nothing to do with Brene Brown's, and how white supremacy deeply impacts...
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Ep 69: Setting Boundaries as a DEI Advocate with Marie Beecham
Marie's made a name for herself as a DEI advocate and educator (@mariebeech), and in this episode she talks about setting boundaries on social media, and the pros and cons of creating social justice content for Instagram. Here's a link to her awesome podcast: The Changemaker Podcast This podcast...
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Ep 68: Come Home Safe with Brian Buckmire
Brian is an ABC News legal contributor and author of the forthcoming YA book Come Home Safe, a book that "explores the pain, the truths, and the hopes that come with growing up as a person of color in America, as well as why 'the talk' and discussions about social justice are so important in the...
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Ep 67: Discovering Your Sexual Narrative with Devin Green
Devin Green, APCC, is a sex therapist and former dominatrix. In this episode, we discuss sex work, shame, the dynamics of queer vs. straight sex, and how to define your own sexual narrative.
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Ep 66: Teaching to Transform with Liz Kleinrock
Liz is a transracially adopted, Korean-born, queer Jewish woman. Her TED Talk, "How to teach kids to talk about taboo topics" has been viewed millions of times. We chat with Liz about the journey since her TED Talk and how we can introduce hard conversations into the classroom, especially during…
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Ep 65: Finding Meaning and Healing with Tiffany Yu
Disability advocate Tiffany Yu shares her story of healing and finding meaning after the childhood accident that left her paralyzed, as well as important ways to be an ally to the disability community. Learn more about Tiffany at her site: https://www.tiffanyyu.com/
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Ep 64: Crimes of Yesterday
Hannah digests her trip to the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam, and feeling the very recent history of the Holocaust in her travels throughout Europe. Yseult shares about the intersection of her experience as a Black woman and Jewish woman. Join us for our new class, Improve Your Interracial...
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Ep 63: Is Breast Best?
Tanya Singleton joins us to discuss the work of bringing a human into the world, the propaganda of the mommy wars, how to support pregnant people and parents, formula versus breast feeding, and creating our own villages. To learn more and contact your congresspeople about maternal and child…
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Ep 62: The Joy of Being Jewish
Amy Albertson joins the Kinswomen to discuss being unapologetically Jewish, and her experience as a Chinese-American Jewish Israeli. We chat about the shapeshifting nature of antisemitism, and whether or not non-Jews should play Jewish characters in media. Get our new free class "Build an…
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Ep 61: The Healing Power of the South with Jo-Ná Williams, Esq.
The Kinswomen speak with lawyer and entrepreneur Jo-Ná Williams about the hug of New Orleans, the whiteness of the #girlboss and #marketingbro culture, and her own healing journey. To learn more about Jo-Ná's work: www.jo-na.com www.jawilliamslaw.com www.intheblackclass.com
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Ep 60: Decolonizing Therapy with Marvin Toliver
The Kinswomen bring on their first-ever kinsman as a guest, and he's a great one. Marvin Toliver is a social worker, changemaker, and co-founder of Melanated Social Work. We discuss why Black folks shouldn't pay for therapy, the impact of oppressive systems on both therapists and clients, and the...
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Ep 59: Sensuality for ourselves with Anjua Maximo
Sensual movement and life coach Anjua Maximo shares how erotic dance helped heal her sister wound, what we'd tell our younger selves, and who has permission to express rage and when.
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Ep 58: Do Your Part to Get Smart with Blair Imani
The author, historian, and host of the super-popular "Smarter in Seconds" Instagram series on how identifiers oversimplify us, the pressure to produce content, and why "keep calm and carry on" is white supremacy.
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Ep 57: You Belong, with Jana Degrott
Jana is one of the youngest elected officials in Europe, having been in office since the age of 21. She's also the founder of We Belong, a platform for WOC that challenges stereotypes, as well as an Obama Foundation leader. Jana will inspire you -- so don't miss this episode!
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Ep 56: Is productivity toxic? With disability advocate Imani Barbarin
Imani Barbarin (Crutches_and_Spice on IG) stops by Kinswomen to discuss how the performance of productivity by able-bodied folks leads to more ableism, and discusses her work as a communications professional and disability advocate. Imani's IG Imani's Site
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Ep 55: The Kinswomen respond to your questions
Yseult and Hannah answer questions like "Can Yseult speak about race in America if she's not African American?" and "Is there space for white people in anti-racism, and should they profit from it?"
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Ep 54: Pay it forward, pay it back
The Kinswomen welcome Caroline Colesworthy from the Fund for Reparations Now to talk about what it means to be a reparationist.
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Ep 53: Is it too late to say sorry?
The Kinswomen are back and discussing public apologies, accountability (or the lack thereof), and what needs to happen when old, problematic tweets resurface.
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Ep 52: What Happened To Us
The Kinswomen check in on their relationship, and how it really felt to write a book together.
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Ep 51: The Myth of Meritocracy
Yseult and Hannah discuss why it's so hard for white women to come to terms with the realities of the pay gap, and how we can help close it. This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. Kinswomen listeners receive 10% off their first month with the link: https://betterhelp.com/kinswomen
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Ep 50: Passport Privilege
Yseult and Hannah discuss the issues behind white people sharing images of the Haitian migrants, and the hierarchy of different passports. This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. Kinswomen listeners receive 10% off their first month with the link: https://betterhelp.com/kinswomen
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Ep. 49: Turikumwe ('We Are Together')
Actress and poet Malaika Uwamahoro talks about how art and education intertwine and inspire change and growth.
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Ep. 48: The Caucasity
Yseult and Hannah discuss the controversy of a white-led Instagram account, formerly known as @soyouwanttotalkabout profiting off the work of Ijeoma Oluo and her similarly titled book, "So You Want to Talk About Race." They get personal about Hannah's whiteness assisting in their book deal, and…
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Ep. 47: Wholeness, Wellness, and Activism
The Kinswomen speak to Nicole Cardoza, founder and CEO of Reclamation Ventures, and the popular Anti-Racism Daily newsletter, about the wellness gap, abundance, and why she doesn't call herself an activist.
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Ep. 46: The White Woman Double-Down
Yseult and Hannah react to their first viral moment and what it's been like to navigate a truly exhausting comment section.
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Ep. 45: Mediocrity, Nurtured by White Supremacy
Yseult and Hannah discuss the mediocrity of making Juneteenth a federal holiday.
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Ep. 44: Costumes of Normalcy with Qian Julie Wang
Qian Julie Wang, an author, speaker, and litigator, talks about her experience as an undocumented immigrant from China and how she found strength in sharing her story through writing. Her book "Beautiful Country" comes out in September, and has already been called "a new classic" by Publisher's...
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Ep. 43: Unbothered with Sandy Pierre
Sandy returns to the podcast to discuss what it's like to work on an all-Black team and brand for the first time, and why not all money is good money.
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Ep. 42: The Inner Work Can't Be Done On Instagram
Yseult and Hannah discuss why anti-racism work can't be reduced to digestible Instagram posts, and Hannah talks about overcoming her sense of urgency and discovering the problematic past of one of her favorite albums.
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Ep. 41: The Reckoning Continues
Yseult and Hannah react to the continuing stream of racist police violence in the news cycle.
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Ep. 40: Is White Trauma a Thing?
Yseult and Hannah discuss efforts to center white grievances in racial discourse in their latest episode.
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Ep. 39: Royalty, Racism, and Social Media Mistakes
Yseult and Hannah discuss the Meghan and Harry Oprah interview, as well as common mistakes allies make on social media. If you like this episode, subscribe to Kinswomen and leave a review! Sign up for our Course for Anti-Racist Entrepreneurs at...
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Ep. 38: "When The Music Is Strong, The Movement Is Strong" with Carlisa Johnson
Yseult and Hannah sit down with journalist, digital organizer, and Director of the Atlanta Resistance Revival chorus Carlisa Johnson to discuss the power of music in protest.
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Ep. 37: "This is America"
Yseult and Hannah reflect on the Capitol riots and set their intentions for 2021. Join the Kinswomen for their Course for Anti-Racist Entrepreneurs, starting 1/25, linked below: https://www.kinswomenpodcast.com/classes/p/the-course-for-anti-racist-entrepreneurs
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Ep. 36: High Vibrations with Eunice Kim
The Kinswomen talk with HiVi founder Eunice Kim about her journey from being an assimilating, first-generation South Korean to the founder of a California cannabis collective aimed at creating equity in the Green Rush.
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Ep. 35: The Fox and the Wolf with Rochelle Ritchie
Rochelle Ritchie talks about her career as a political analyst and journalist, why she prefers going on Fox News, and how white liberals have taken over the BLM movement.
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Ep. 34: Segregated Sisterhood
Yseult and Hannah talk about why sororities are so segregated, Hannah's experience in one, and the conversations that need to be had about white Greek life. Referenced Article: University of Alabama Sorority Felt Blacks Were 'Bad for Our Status'...
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Ep. 33: The 55%
On the eve of learning the final results of the election, Hannah and Yseult talk about the unsurprising but disappointing support for Trump from white women, the unfair responsibility of women of color to be the country's moral compass, and the road ahead.
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Ep. 32: Abortion Myth-busting with Dr. Meera Shah
Dr. Shah sits with the Kinswomen to discuss her new book "You're the Only One I've Told - The Stories Behind Abortion." She offers real talk about reproductive rights (that may seem radical, even to liberal women) and shares how Jainism influences her work.
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Ep. 31: Living Boldly with Arianna Davis
Arianna joins the Kinswomen to talk about her identity as a biracial Black and Latina women, her career trajectory from Gayle King's assistant to the director of OprahMag.com, and her inspiring new book: What Would Frida Do? A Guide To Living Boldly.
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Ep. 30: A Girl Like Her, with Peppermint
Actress, activist, and star of RuPaul's Drag Race Peppermint joins the Kinswomen to talk about her life as a Black trans woman, transphobia in the drag community, and her new album, "A Girl Like Me: Letters To My Lovers."
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Ep. 29: A Reclamation Story, with Audrey Bansil
Corporate VP and new mom Audrey chats with the Kinswomen about her immigrant story, the pressure of whiteness, the colonization of the Philippines, and reclaiming her Filipino identity.
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Ep. 28: Black is Queen
Yseult and Hannah question the white team behind the new live-action Mulan film, and discuss Beyonce's "Black is King" film and its criticism.
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Ep. 27: A Call to Cosmo // Race and Reality TV with Hannah BernerÂ
Hannah implores her former employer, Cosmo, to do better, and then she and Yseult are joined by Hannah Berner from Bravo's Summer House to talk about race in the world of reality TV.
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Ep. 26: The New Blackface
Hannah and Yseult discuss the proliferation of digital blackface online, and its offline consequences. Action Item! Read "We Need to Talk About Digital Blackface in Reaction GIFs" by Lauren Michele Jackson https://www.teenvogue.com/story/digital-blackface-reaction-gifs
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Ep. 25: The Color of Patriotism with Danielle Summerhill Engle
Hannah and Yseult welcome Hannah's sister-in-law and Army veteran Danielle to discuss her life as a Black woman in the military and church. They talk about the importance of people accepting, rather than repressing, anger about racial injustice.
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Ep. 24: Be Like Becky with Becky Reiser
Yseult and Hannah talk with Haddon Township Equity Initiative co-founder Becky Reiser about the concrete actions she and her group of allies have started to fight racism in their community. She describes the racially fraught history of her new hometown and efforts to keep the momentum up in the...
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Ep: 23 We're Not in This Together (Yet)
Yseult & Hannah dive into #FreeBritney, the myth of black-on-black crime, and how white people don't experience the burden of representing their race all the time.
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Ep. 22: Let Us Breathe with Emerald Garner
Yseult and Hannah speak with civil rights leader Emerald Garner, daughter of Eric Garner. Emerald is the leading voice in the fight for justice for her father and has vowed to never stop fighting laws and policies that allow police to get away with murder. She describes being "bullied into...
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Ep. 21: Juneteenth is the New July 4th
Yseult and Hannah talk about the history of Juneteenth, modern slavery, and why white people are living in their own version of the Truman Show.
About this show
The Kinswomen aim to build more trust and bridge the gaps between women of color and white women through difficult, uncomfortable, but cathartic conversations. Named Best Podcasts of 2020 by Elle, Cosmo, and Marie Claire. Hosted by Yseult Mukantabana and Hannah Summerhill.
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