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Kinward Podcast
by CdV Saizan
Here, we orient Kinward: exploring solidarities, affirming entanglements, playing with Others, courting rapport—and skillsharing practices that move us into deeper alignment with Life. Welcome! kinwardmoves.substack.com
Episodes
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Restoring Common Ground—Literally with IAN McSWEENEY of The Farmers Land Trust | Kinward 34 🌑
Three hundred million acres of farmland will change hands in the next 15 years. That’s 40% of the farmland in the US. Those numbers feel huge, but not abstract. That’s where our food comes from. And, if we stay on the path we’re on now, it’s likely that much of that land will be further...
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Wonder Disruption with SARAH ANN WOODBURY | Kinward 33 🌑
Sarah ann woodbury is a multipassionate practitioner of encounter. She says early in this conversation that cultivating encounter with wild others has been a big part of releasing her own body and voice from the narrowness and smallness she was raised to emulate. Sarah comes from a long line of…
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Technologies of Discovery & Return with RUTHANNA EMRYS | Kinward 32 🌗
Author and cognitive psychologist Ruthanna Emrys is a big thinker about agency, and about futures, and about the technologies that influence our ability (or inability) to decide, act, revise, remember, try, and try again to make the world together. I reached out to Ruthanna because I loved her...
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Right Stories About How We Are Becoming with MICHAEL LOOTS | Kinward 31 🌑
“If I hear another person on the Internet talking about composting ontologies without actually being in the work of composting, I’m gonna flip shit," says Michael Loots—educator, writer, gardener, partner and papa—in this episode of Kinward Podcast, as we affirm a basic truth: the map is not the...
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Educating Whole Souls with JENNY FINN of Springhouse Community School | Kinward 30 🌕
In this vibrantly alive conversation, wholistic educator Dr. Jenny Finn, co-founder of Springhouse Community School, distinguishes “the wake up call” (the insight, sometimes sudden, sometimes carried like a burden, that what we are doing isn’t working, for the world or for us) from the commitment...
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(Re)kindling the Home Fire with VERONICA STANWELL & BEN STOPFORD of Deepen Your Roots | Kinward 29 🌑
“It IS an illusion that everything is broken,” says Ben Stopford late in this spacious conversation with two collaborators deeply rooted in the British Isles: himself and Veronica Stanwell of Rooted Healing. At any hearth where we gather, Ben reminds us, we can invite each other to turn towards...
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We All Know (Thank You) | Kinward 28 [Moonday School] 🌕
Last night was our first hard freeze. The summer plants are done. This year, for me, the end of the summer garden is very clearly the beginning of Crone season. The moon last night, not quite full, was a Crone moon. My Crone guardian has been guiding me through some difficult conversations in…
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Money Stories & Love Gifts with GEORGIA LEE HUSSEY, CFP | Kinward 27 🌑
“How do we talk about [wealth] without me telling you that you have plenty?” Georgia Lee Hussey asks in this episode of Kinward Podcast. “Because that’s not helpful. YOU need to know that you have plenty, in order to take action in a way that is meaningful.” Georgia works to develop this inner...
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Wild Stumbling with Heidi Schmalz | Kinward 26 [Moonday School] 🌓
"The only stable footstep is a step that makes contact with terra firma," says Kinward listener and biologist and my friend Heidi Schmalz, in this woodsy exploration of “process not product”—of walking off trail in the tangled woods, with wide open eyes and no destination, as Heidi does every day...
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"Add Some Love & Give It Time" | Kinward 25 [Practicum] 🌕
What’s your growth edge into the more beautiful world your heart knows is possible? And who's on the other side of that growth edge, calling you into that more beautiful version of yourself? Who's nudging you? Who's alongside you? I lost a very dear friend and mentor a few weeks ago, Jim Howell.…
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LARISSA KAUL on Disintegrating Empire | Kinward 24 🌑
In the ritual theatre and “Embodied Dreaming” spaces that Larissa Kaul facilitates, I’ve learned and felt things far more subtle and interesting than what I’ve been able to access inside of more static practice structures. I think this is because I encounter an alive integrity in Larissa’s work...
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🌀 A Threefold River | Kinward 23 [Moonday School] 🌖
What have your scars taught you? If your deepest scar is a door, what threshold does it mark? Have you crossed it yet? How do you know you’ve crossed it? Mine have taught me the spiral. Snake (shedding), ouroboros (snake swallowing her own tail), maid / mother / crone, labyrinths, all great...
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Divination Orientation | Kinward 22 [Moonday School] 🌔
A tiny spider has made a web in the tiny tunnel of my scrying stone. Thank you, tiny spider teacher, for modeling tiny opportunistic weaving. In the spirit of resonance, I’m going to try this, too. Today, I’m trying it with a short, sweet, windblown, leaf-rustling, mostly unedited glimpse into a...
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RICH HATFIELD on Buzzing Springs & Humming Summers 🐝 | Kinward 21 🌑
Before I started working with Rich Hatfield, I more or less thought that “wildlife” started with birds and went up from there. But a brood of baby birds needs thousands of caterpillars to grow, fledge and leave the nest. That’s a lot of insects. And that’s Rich Hatfield’s delightful, diverse and...
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ROBIN PACE on Patterning Capacity | Kinward 20 🌑
“We don’t have to pattern toward fear,” says Robin Pace early in this 20th episode of Kinward podcast, recalling an incident where she flipped an oar boat in the middle of a class IV rapid—on her very first trip as the new owner of Winding Waters, a whitewater expedition outfit based in Joseph,...
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Scrying a Water Way with ROBIN PACE, River Runner [Immersion] | Kinward 20[I] 🌕
In this short and playful Immersion, the first episode of the second season of Kinward Podcast, my friend Robin and I make contact with the mystery via river rocks with holes in them: windows that water opened. There aren’t many people I’d rather look at water with than Robin Pace, a rooted...
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ANTONIA MALCHIK on Care-tending the Commons | Kinward 19 🌑
“I think one of the most fundamental things that humans have lost in promoting and supporting and empowering the concept of ownership is connection and relationship with the rest of the living world," says Antonia Malchik—Montana-based writer, mother of two, daughter of a Soviet exile, and...
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ROZZELL MEDINA on Imagining from the Root | Kinward 18 🌕
As listeners of this podcast likely know, and as Rozzell Medina emphasizes throughout today’s conversation, “radical” literally means “of the root.” In the space of this interview, Rozzell and I consider this word—consider roots—in relation to Home, homecoming, and homelands; punk rock; the...
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JOHN DE VILLIER on Connection More than Ever | Kinward 17 🌕
There are lots of hot takes and post mortems circulating about why the US vote went decisively to Trump on November 6. This episode of Kinward is not trying to be another one. But, as this season in politics got stranger and stranger, I knew I wanted to have a nuanced conversation, after the...
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Invoking What We Might Have Learned with ROZZELL MEDINA [IMMERSION] | Kinward 16[I] 🌑
Happy Samhain: season of acknowledging thresholds, reckoning with ghosts, and feeding them. My sense (maybe yours too?) is that the hungry ghosts are out in force this time, this year. In this short Immersion episode with artist and educator Rozzell Medina, we time travel with back to early 2020…
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🍃 Enough is the Point 🍂 with DANAE YURGEL of Avella Orchard | Kinward 15 🌕
I’ve known Danae Yurgel for several years. Plants she gifted us are abundant and thriving in our little food forest. I consider her a dear teacher in the arts of permaculture, orcharding, and a life well lived in alignment with deep values. Danae is a Tai Chi instructor, a student of rewilding…
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ANDY HUBER on Growing Wiser..."We Hope You Will" | Kinward 14 🌑
GROWISER is an acronym. It stands for Grande Ronde Overlook Wildflower Institute Serving Ecological Restoration. GRO WISER is also an invitation. Andy Huber established the GROWISER native plant preserve in Summerville, Oregon in 1992. The preserve began as 160 acres of prairie and forest “with a...
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CHISAO HATA on Feeling Change | Kinward 13 🌕
In this episode of Kinward Podcast, I try to breathe and move, as well as speak, with Chisao Hata—a dancer; an artist; a community weaver and “memory activist” based in Portland, Oregon; and the daughter of two Japanese Americans who met and married at a WWII incarceration site in Poston…
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JOE WILKINS on New Stories for Hungry Ghosts | Kinward 12 🌕
One guiding theme of Kinward podcast is an inquiry into what feels possible, or not, for our moment and futures, based on the kinds of stories we tell. And this is one reason I wanted to speak to Joe Wilkins. Joe grew up “father-haunted” in the “Big Dry” of Eastern Montana. He’s a father himself…
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RIVER MA [Fiction] | Kinward 11[F] 🌾
August First is Lúnasa, the Gaelic festival day that marks the beginning of the harvest season. In the spirit of harvest, I thought we’d try something a little different today: a fairy tale, written and read by me, CdV. This story is fiction, and it's also a true story, in its way. It splashes...
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AXCELLE CAMPANA on Practicing Just Green Futures Now | Kinward 10 🌕
'All relationships are ecological relationships' has been a mantra of mine for the last several years. In this tenth (heyo double digits!) episode of Kinward podcast, I speak with my longtime friend and role model Axcelle Campana about the many ways our struggles are intertwined and our thriving...
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ANGELA SONDENAA on the World’s Work | Kinward 09 🌑
Angela Sondenaa, Ph.D.—Siletz Tribal Member, ecologist and “student of ecology,” and longtime land steward with the Nez Perce Tribe—is a passionate advocate for the paradigm shift in resource / “life source” management that Indigenous voices can bring to the field of land management in this time…
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JASON GRAHAM (M0sley W0tta) on the Shaking Awake of What is Possible | Kinward 08 🌕
Happy Strawberry Moon, happy week of Juneteenth, happy solstice, friends. It was snowing a few weeks ago when I recorded this conversation with Jason Graham (@mosleywotta): painter, musician, poet, storyteller; multidisciplinary Creative Laureate of Bend, Oregon; traverser through "the ecology of...
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KIRSTEN & JAKOB SHOCKEY on Empowerment in Play | Kinward 07 🌑
Kirsten Shockey, co-founder of the Fermentation School and writer at Fermenting Change, reminds us in this episode of Kinward, “humans play to learn.” Jakob, Kirsten’s son and founder of Project Beaver, adds later, “I’m very interested in avoiding getting pigeonholed as an expert in anything…
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Around the Farmstead Table with KIRSTEN & JAKOB SHOCKEY, Mother and Son [Immersion] | Kinward 07[I] 🌕
This delicious Immersion episode with Jakob Shockey, founder of Project Beaver, and his mom Kirsten, co-founder of The Fermentation School, is a beautiful taste of the rooting and belonging that one family has woven to support and nourish their good work in the world. Kirsten and Jakob share a...
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RENEE "SHE-RA" PATRICK on The Long Hike Home | Kinward 06 🌑
Renee Patrick is a triple-crown through-hiker with over 20 years of experience planning, hiking, and improving long-distance trails. She is an environmentalist and passionate outdoor enthusiast who believes that long-distance hiking can deepen our relationship with the landscapes and…
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LAUREN MACDONALD on Trusting the Labyrinth | Kinward 05 ☀️
Happy Beltane, dear ones. In my neck of the woods, blackbird songs are giving way to frog songs, the garden is popping, and my druid baby just turned two. For many reasons—deep and fresh, ancient and young, celebratory and fiery—Beltane feels like the right day to release this loving, vulnerable,...
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Waving and Rooting with LAUREN MACDONALD, herbalist and doula [Practicum] | Kinward 05[P] 🌕
Lauren Macdonald—herbalist and doula, home-tender, poet, labyrinth-walker, singer, nurse, and caretaker of a “dynamic and evolving medicine practice,” Ripple Medicine—guides us generously into a water-body meditation in this short full moon Practicum 🌕 Our full episode with Lauren—in which we...
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KEVIN SWIFT on the Self We Have to Save | Kinward 04
Kevin Swift practices low tech process based restoration, which is to say, he uses simple tools, a collaborative ethic, and a lot of humility to coax damaged and simplified waterways into fuller expressions of their aliveness. This is potent, rewarding work that is needed everywhere. The…
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Smelling Success with KEVIN SWIFT, Two-Legged Beaver [Immersion] | Kinward 04[I] 🌑
I encountered Kevin Swift—a restoration practitioner, founder of Swiftwater Design, who describes himself as a “two-legged beaver”—at a beaver conference in western Oregon last fall, when I was still working my conservation job. Among many excellent presentations by many humans lauding the…
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BOBBY FOSSEK, BROSNAN SPENCER, & MEADOW SPENCER on Remembering Together How to Be a Human Here | Kinward 03 🌕
Just before Equinox, my family and I spent an evening with Bobby Fossek, Brosnan Spencer, and their daughter Meadow. These neighbors-across-the-mountains are the space-holders and weavers of Naknuwiłama Tiiča̓mna (Caretakers of the Land), an Indigenous-led organization based in eastern Oregon,...
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CRAIG CHILDS on Opening Doors for Wildness (& Also Coming Home) | Kinward 02 🌑
I’m so excited to share this conversation with Craig Childs—adventure journalist, desert devotee, and “transformation junkie”—on recommitting to earth’s rhythms; rewilding (and domesticating) ourselves in ways that are responsive and responsible; and opening all the doors. We know that in times…
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GENEVIEVE FLANAGAN on Resilient Roots for No-Analog Times | Kinward 01
Genevieve Flanagan owns and operates the one-woman show the Urban Acre Homestead: an urban farm in Northeast Portland, focused on serving fresh, beautiful, and nourishing food to neighbors. The Urban Acre is a diversified small farm with vegetables (especially greens), fruit and berries…
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Steeping Spring with GENEVIEVE FLANAGAN, Urban Farmer [Practicum] | Kinward 01[P] 🌕
Genevieve Flanagan is a resilience thinker, an urban farmer (owner-operator of the one-woman show the Urban Acre Homestead in Portland, Oregon), and is "not a practicing wiccan" — just an opportunistic one, we might say, since the pagan high holidays happen to map right onto the farming calendar....
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