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Kitces and Carl - Real Talk for Real Financial Advisors

A no-holds barred conversation for Real Financial Advisors with industry nerd Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards. One draws with a Sharpie, the other nerds out with spreadsheets, and both provide you with unique perspectives so that you can more effectively communicate with and serve your clients, run a more fulfilling practice, and maintain a healthier lifestyle.

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  1. 198

    The Temptation To Take On More Clients To Build (3X) Enterprise Value: Kitces & Carl Ep 198

    In the 198th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss finding the balance between scaling your business and finally letting yourself enjoy the success you worked so hard to build. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  2. 197

    Helping Clients Align Their Capital To What's REALLY Important When They Don't Know What Is: Kitces & Carl Ep 197

    In the 197th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to go about figuring out what's important to clients (and how to help them figure it out for themselves). For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  3. 196

    When 'Feelings Are Data' To Navigate Clients' Financial Planning Trade-Offs: Kitces & Carl Ep 196

    In the 196th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss the role of "gut feelings" and intuition in decision-making after the data has been fully analyzed. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  4. 195

    Engagement Trap and Reactive vs Proactive Touchpoints: Kitces & Carl Ep 195

    In the 195th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to strike the right balance between proactive and reactive client communication. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  5. 194

    Is It Ever Appropriate To Engage Clients With Fear Of Adverse Outcomes To Persuade Them To Action?: Kitces & Carl Ep 194

    In the 194th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss the ongoing debate surrounding fear-based marketing tactics. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  6. 193

    When Clients Would Rather Feel More Financially Successful Than Take Action To BE More Successful: Kitces & Carl Ep 193

    In the 193rd episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss the challenge of motivating clients to take difficult but necessary action toward their goals. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  7. 192

    Balancing Between The Art Of Serving Clients Creatively And Optimizing For Business Outcomes: Kitces & Carl Ep 192

    In the 192nd episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how advisors can stay creative without losing sight of the business side of things. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  8. 191

    Challenges In Engaging The 'Disengaged' Spouse Of A Client Couple: Kitces & Carl Ep 191

    In the 191st episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to navigate working with couples when one partner is checked out. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  9. 190

    The Advisor Talent Shortage: Will AI Solve... Or Exacerbate It?: Kitces & Carl Ep 190

    In the 190th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how artificial intelligence could reshape the industry—and why one possible outcome may not be as appealing as it seems. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  10. 189

    Navigating Change Fatigue With And While Serving Clients: Kitces & Carl Ep 189

    In the 189th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to support and guide clients when things feel uncertain. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  11. 188

    The Remarkable Liquidity Of Financial Advisory Firms When Planning Your Own Advisor Retirement: Kitces & Carl Ep 188

    In the 188th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss what steps advisors can begin taking today to position themselves for a successful sale in the future. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  12. 187

    Mitigating Risk From (Litigious) Clients When Your Advisor Team Grows Beyond You: Kitces & Carl Ep 187

    In the 187th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss the safeguards firms can put in place to protect themselves from legal risk, especially as they grow. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  13. 186

    Communicating The Value Of Financial Planning That Clients Don't Come For In The First Place: Kitces & Carl Ep 186

    In the 186th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss effective ways to convey the real value of financial planning so it genuinely resonates with clients. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  14. 185

    The Financial Planning Value Disconnect When Clients Don't Appreciate The Long-Term Benefits: Kitces & Carl Ep 185

    In the 185th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss what clients truly value in their relationships with financial advisors. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  15. 184

    The (Unexpected) Ways AI Is Changing Content Marketing For Financial Advisors: Kitces & Carl Ep 184

    In the 184th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how artificial intelligence has made content marketing simultaneously more accessible and more challenging than ever. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  16. 183

    Should Advisors Provide Opinionated Advice Or Coach Clients To Choose Their Own Path?: Kitces & Carl Ep 183

    In the 183rd episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss whether it's more effective to give clients clear, step-by-step guidance or empower them to become the heroes of their own stories. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  17. 182

    Why Advisor Succession Plans Fail: Retirement Age Is Peak Advisor Happiness: Kitces & Carl Ep 182

    In the 182nd episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss the happiest time in an advisor's career—and how that may be fueling the industry's succession planning gap. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  18. 181

    Helping Clients With AI Bubble Fears To Stay The Course: Kitces & Carl Ep 181

    In the 181st episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to thoughtfully address client fears and uncertainties about the rapidly evolving AI landscape. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  19. 180

    Aligning Your Capital With What's Important To You By Focusing On Where You PAY Attention: Kitces & Carl Ep 180

    In the 180th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss the four sources of capital—and how the way you use them reveals your true priorities versus your stated ones. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  20. 179

    Holding Back From Hiring Associate Advisors Out Of Fear They're Just Going To Move On: Kitces & Carl Ep 179

    In the 179th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss the common angst advisors feel about the idea of their associate advisors eventually leaving to build teams of their own. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  21. 178

    Helping Retired Clients To Actually Start Spending (And Enjoying) Their Money: Kitces & Carl Ep 178

    In the 178th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss why many retirees struggle to spend the money they spent a lifetime saving—and how advisors can help. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  22. 177

    Ways To Say 'No' To Avoid Making Yourself Too Busy: Kitces & Carl Ep 177

    In the 177th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss why learning to say "no" can be game-changing—and how to do it without all the guilt. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  23. 176

    Ways To Say 'Yes' Sustainably To Prospects In Need Who Don't Fit Your Minimums: Kitces & Carl Ep 176

    In the 176th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to support clients who need financial guidance but can't afford traditional advisory fees. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  24. 175

    Visual Sketches As Conversation Starters To Help Clients Make Better Financial Decisions: Kitces & Carl Ep 175

    In the 175th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how sketches can spark more meaningful money conversations. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  25. 174

    What Jobs Have You Given Money (That Shape How You Give Advice)?: Kitces & Carl Ep 174

    In the 174th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss what they'd say if they could talk directly to money—and what money might say back. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  26. 173

    When Prospects Say No Because They're Not Ready To Break Up With Their Current Advisor: Kitces & Carl Ep 173

    In the 173rd episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to handle receiving the "soft no" after meeting with a client who seems like a great fit. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  27. 172

    Scaling Financial Planning Client Affluence vs. Technology Efficiencies: Kitces & Carl Ep 172

    In the 172nd episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss what research reveals as the key driver of productivity among financial advisors. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  28. 171

    When Advising Clients Loses Its Spark: Burned Out, Or Bored-Out?: Kitces & Carl Ep 171

    In the 171st episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss advisor burnout—and the hidden culprit that could be fueling it. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  29. 170

    Helping Clients Navigate AI Career Challenges By Building Financial Planning Resiliency: Kitces & Carl Ep 170

    In the 170th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how financial advisors can help clients navigate career uncertainty caused by AI disruption by focusing on actionable items, offering flexibility vs long-term growth, and being more proactive in planning strategies. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  30. 169

    Is There A Future Of Financial Planning In The AI Era?: Kitces & Carl Ep 169

    In the 169th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards explore how AI is set to transform the roles advisors play and the unique value they provide in client relationships. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  31. 168

    Do You Really Have To Go Deep With Every New Client In The First Meeting?: Kitces & Carl Ep 168

    In our 168th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss whether it's more effective to dive deep in the first client meeting or to focus on the immediate issue and reserve the more emotional conversations for future sessions. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  32. 167

    Are Financial Advisors Less Happy When Working With HNW Clients?: Kitces & Carl Ep 167

    In our 167th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss the complex emotions money can stir up—and how a client's level of wealth can shape an advisor's happiness in their own life. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  33. 166

    Financial Planners As The Guide To Help Clients Navigating Potentially Changing Terrain: Kitces & Carl Ep 166

    In our 166th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to help clients unlearn unhelpful lessons and shift from relying on luck-based decisions to making strategic, informed choices. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  34. 165

    Finding Repeatable Conversations To Explain Complex Concepts More Understandably To Clients: Kitces & Carl Ep 165

    In our 165th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards explore strategies for breaking down complex ideas into clear, simple explanations that clients can easily grasp.  For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  35. 164

    Is Complexity In Financial Planning Necessary To Prove (Young) Advisor Credibility?: Kitces & Carl Ep 164

    In our 164th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to strike the right balance between technical accuracy and clear, client-friendly communication. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  36. 163

    Overcoming Objections When Clients Reject The Recommendation By Asking What You Missed: Kitces & Carl Ep 163

    In our 163rd episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how to handle when clients not only ignore advice but actively push back against it. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  37. 162

    Avoiding Staff Management Duties You Don't Want By Paying A Virtual Assistant For Only What You Need: Kitces & Carl Ep 162

    In our 162nd episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how a virtual assistant can support management responsibilities—and how to identify what tasks are worth delegating in the first place. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  38. 161

    How Valuable Is Getting Feedback About Your Original Business Ideas (That Others May Not Get Anyway)?: Kitces & Carl Ep 161

    In our 161st episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how they navigate others' opinions on their projects—and the strategies they use to invite feedback in the first place. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  39. 160

    Calming Clients With Anxiety About Trump Tariffs And Trade Wars: Kitces & Carl Ep 160

    In our 160th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss what advisors can do to keep clients from panicking—and making poor financial decisions—during market volatility. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  40. 159

    When You Promised Early Clients Special Fees Or Minimums You Can No Longer Honor: Kitces & Carl Ep 159

    In our 159th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss what to do when your original fees no longer make financial sense—but you promised to honor them for some clients. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  41. 158

    Should Prospects Be Allowed To Move Forward If They Don't Want To Think It Over First?: Kitces & Carl Ep 158

    In our 158th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss the reasoning behind not allowing clients—even excited ones—to sign up the day of their first meeting. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  42. 157

    Reducing The Fears Of Prospective Clients By Communicating Clear Expectations Before The First Meeting: Kitces & Carl Ep 157

    In our 157th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss tactics for reducing the worry that can arise for people when meeting with a financial advisor for the first time. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  43. 156

    How Are You Getting Value Out Of ChatGPT As A Financial Advisor?: Kitces & Carl Ep 156

    In our 156th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how they're using ChatGPT in their own work and share their thoughts on the future of AI in financial advising. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  44. 155

    How Do You Know When You Are Adding Value Versus Just Trying To Justify Your Fees?: Kitces & Carl Ep 155

    In our 155th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss a common pitfall among advisors, and what you should consider to make sure you're actually adding value—not just wasting time. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  45. 154

    The Limits Where Technology Can't Scale Financial Planning Advice: Kitces & Carl Ep 154

    In our 154th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss technology and AI's role in the future of financial advice. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  46. 153

    Evaluating The Tradeoffs That Come With Retaining 'Legacy' Clients: Kitces & Carl Ep 153

    In our 153rd episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss what to do when legacy clients start to hurt profitability down the line. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  47. 152

    Advisory Fee Confidence And Building The Happy-Client Stoke File: Kitces & Carl Ep 152

    In our 152nd episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss surprising data from recent research on the different ways advisors charge fees. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  48. 151

    What's Holding You Back From Delegating What You Need To Let Go Of?: Kitces & Carl Ep 151

    In our 151st episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss what often stands in the way of delegating tasks—and what you can do to avoid common sticking points. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  49. 150

    When The Early Years' Scarcity As A Financial Advisor Prevents You From Growing To The Next Level: Kitces & Carl Ep 150

    In our 150th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how the scarcity mentality many new advisors experience when just starting out can negatively affect their career down the road—and how to avoid this common trap. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

  50. 149

    Do You Really Need A Business Partner… Or A Study Group?: Kitces & Carl Ep 149

    In our 149th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss why having friends in the trenches with you as you launch your own firm might be more valuable than having a business partner. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

A no-holds barred conversation for Real Financial Advisors with industry nerd Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards. One draws with a Sharpie, the other nerds out with spreadsheets, and both provide you with unique perspectives so that you can more effectively communicate with and serve your clients, run a more fulfilling practice, and maintain a healthier lifestyle.

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Michael Kitces, MSFS, MTAX, CFP and Carl Richards, CFP

Produced by Michael Kitces

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