Episodes
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Lacy J. Dalton_Americana Singer-Songwriter_interview 2024-01-26 on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" with "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "Kaos" (Katrina Clugston)
Lacy J. is into saving wild horses, & will be performing a benefit for Jimmy Jackson & his wife, Ellen O'Hanlon (both have cancer) - they have been artists for over 40 years. Ellen as a healer, artist, & painter. Jimmy got a lot of people started, & wrote a song for International Rotary about…
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Scott Cooper_'Rosebud'_Singer, Songwriter_2026-10-23 interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" with "Dangerous Dan" Orange
Back in the day, Scott was in a band, "Secret Chimp", with Jim Lewin & Bill Layman, Lachlan Kane & Mark Corsolini...they split up, with Jim & Bill going one way, & the rest forming Rosebud (because Lachlan Kane went by "Citizen Kane")...the band allows Scott to get his non-Grateful Dead ya-ya's...
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Lynn Robinson_ex-SC Mayor, ex-ED Valley Churches United_2026-10-23 interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by 'Dangerous Dan' Orange & DJ Spark Plug (Dylan Estevez)
Santa Cruz is the "only place that felt like home"...Lynn's grandfather built a 600 sq. ft. house on the East Side that Lynn would visit as a kid, having grown up off Camden Ave. in San Jose...she moved here in 1974 to help her grandparents as her grandmother was dealing with senility (what we…
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Andy Sydow_singer-songwriter_2026-10-09_interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by 'Dangerous Dan' Orange
A Bushwhacker's First!!!! A live, in-the-studio, interview at 6:30am!!! The show this weekend is a classic Nashville writer's round, where the singer / songwriters trade off songs; Andy grew up in Colorado, moved to Nashville with his wife with songwriting the impetus, & are now back in Colorado;...
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Flagship Romance_Singers-Songwriters_2026-10-09_interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange
"Flagship Romance" is the married duo Shawn Fisher & Jordyn Jackson; they have been touring with the duo "Rough & Tumble" on what they call the "Rough Romance Tour" for 5 months (they use their dual mailing lists to encourage each group's fans to come out to listen to their complimentary sounds),...
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Bonny June & Ken Kraft_aka Countess June & Count Kraftula_Singers, Songwriters, Vaudville_2026-10-23 interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
The Countess & Count flew to the KZSC studio in in their coffins carried by bats, after a night of (blood) drinking & terrorizing! They are in town for their Hallowe'en show, which will be an original Vaudville-style show with songs, skits, & dumb jokes, accompanied by "Batman" Owens &...
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Rita Hosking -Singer, Songwriter_2026-09-18 interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Rita is calling in from Nevada City, California, in Grass Valley (shout out to KVMR!), & will be coming to Santa Cruz with her musical partner (& husband) Sean Feder, who accompanies her on Dobro (resophonic guitar) & banjo; Sean is a UCSC graduate (biology major), and a multi-instrumentalist who...
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Ian George - Singer / Songwriter; band leader of "The Knee Pockets"_2026-09-11_interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange
They are calling from the road, after Ian & "the boys" loaded their 2013 Toyota Sienna "Tetris-style" in Oregon; Ian's boys are 15 & 9, but "the boys" in the van are Ethan Boardman on drums, & Grazer Bazer Phelps on electric bass; this trio, Ian George & the Knee Pockets, is more of a rocker…
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Nina Gerber_Folk guitarist & consummate sideperson_2023-09-08 interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange, "Kalamity Kyle" Weller, and "Kaos" (Katrina Clugston)
Nina's band, "Duo Quartet" playing tonight; How did Nina meet Pam Delgado & Jeri Jones? "A happy accident!" - they were all playing a memorial show for Sarah Elizabeth Campbell, and Pam & Jeri were there as part of the band "Blame Sally"...later, they called Nina about doing a double bill at the...
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Gail Pellerin - 28th District California Assemblymember_2026-09-25_interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Gail is just getting back after her daughter's wedding in Oregon last weekend; we're in a limnal period where all the bills that made it out of the legislature are out, and have either been signed, or are on the Governor's desk to be signed, vetoed, or become law if he does neither (with the...
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Jenny Skerker - Santa Cruz Water Affordability Modeling, Stanford Ph.D._2026-09-18_interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Jenny completed her Ph.D. at Stanford in the Civil & Environmental Engineering Department, so how did she settle on studying the impact of climate change on water in Santa Cruz? Great Question! (#1): she's now working for a water department in the East Bay, but she worked [MORE HERE DAN] on Santa...
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Heidi Lukenbach - Director of Santa Cruz Water Department_2026-09-11 interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange
Heidi is Director of the Santa Cruz City Water Department - which has 120 employees, but that includes a lot of temp workers in the summer (who work at Loch Lomond Reservoir & Recreation Area; the Water Department's budget is $45-50 million (!!); Heidi is a 1st generation Santa Cruzan, having…
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Nick Forster - Musician, eTown, Hot Rize, Red Knuckles & the Trailblazers_2026-09-25 interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Boulder, like Santa Cruz, is a college town filled with artists & creativity, surrounded by green space; he's loving his Santa Cruz Guitar, and it's great to be a a part of their celebration. Nick graduated high school (in the Hudson Valley of New York) when he was 16 years old - young! - & not...
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Nick Forster - Musician, MC for Santa Cruz Guitar 50th, eTown_2026-09-18 interview on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club' by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Nick is coming to town to MC the 50th Anniversary Concert in honor of Santa Cruz Guitar Company, (co)-founded by Richard Hoover, who has created incredible sounding musical instruments using sustainably harvested woods; shout out to the Strawberry Music Festival, which Nick, with Hot Rize…
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Richard Hoover (co-founder) & Brenda Martinez (sales director) - Santa Cruz Guitar Company_2026-09-04_interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Q; Can Richard "hear a song & know whether the guitar is a Santa Cruz Guitar?" A: "You can pick your own kid out of a choir!" Succession planning? Richard is fiercly loyal to the team, with Brenda, and David Osdoll calling shots...working on some kind of employee ownership (Taylor Guitars did…
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John Laird_California State Senator, 17th District_interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
California's Prop. 54, passed in 2016, requires any legislative bill to be published online for 72 hours before it can be voted upon - this resulted in the last bill in the legislature being voted on a 3:46 AM last Tuesday morning, Sept. 1st, even though the constitution requires all bills to be...
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Kim De Serpa_Santa Cruz County Supervisor 2nd District_2026-08-28 interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Kim grew up in Monterey County, Salinas Valley, & went to Humboldt State, then on to St. Louis for grad school; she went to Washington DC to work in Health & Human Services' Dept. of Aging; after she got married, she wanted to be closer to her mom, & moved to Aptos in Santa Cruz County, where…
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Bill Kirchen - Titan of the Telecaster, & inventor of 'Dieselbilly'_2026-08-14 interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange
Bill hitchiked from Ann Arbor, Michigan to the Newport Folk Festival in 1964, where Bob Dylan debuted "Mr. Tambourine Man" (he was lured their by Bob Dylan & Mississippi John Hurt playing); he returned in 1965 when Dylan played electric; Bill was playing in his high school talent show, & wanted…
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John Laird_California State Senator, 17th District Senator - interviewed on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
calling in from The Madonna Inn, where he's staying in The Misty Room (it's the only union hotel in San Luis Obispo) - he's delaying his keynote presentation at an organized labor meeting to call in; Progressive Democrats have been elected in New York City Congressional races, and now the…
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Jorian Wilkins - Executive Director, Downtown Association of Santa Cruz_2026-08-14 interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange
The Downtown Association of Santa Cruz is owned by the Downtown Business Owners, made up of 300 public-facing business, mostly ground floor (retail, restaurant, services) but also upper floor business; with all of the development going on in downtown Santa Cruz, does the Downtown Association have…
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Santa Cruz Jug Band Festival_Greg Meyer_2026-08-07_interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Greg has been in Santa Cruz based jug bands for 10 years, playing the 1st Thursday of every month at Pono, and monthly wiht the Trolly Brass band at Abbott Square; there are Jug Bands, & Jug Band-adjacent bands; this weekend is the 2nd Annual Santa Cruz Jug Band Festival. What's a jug band? A:...
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Nina Gerber_Folk guitarist & consumate sideperson_2026-08-28 interview on "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
with a long & celebrated career as a folk guitarist Nina is "going over to the dark side" to play dueling telecasters wtih Bill Kirchen, the "Titan of the Telecaster" as part of his quartet; what she we refer to Nina as? Accompanist? Is "sideman" gender neutral? Let's change that to "Side…
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Dallas Burrow_Americana_Country Singer-Songwriter Troubadour_interview 2026-08-21 on "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" KZSC Santa Cruz by "Dangerous Dan" Orange
played Folsom (hotel) last night, calling in from Willits; they played a Johnny Cash song last night; the 1st time they played Folsom Dallas' guitar player went to the prison to take a photo, only to learn that it's still a working prison & photos aren't allowed; touring as a 4-piece band, with a...
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Megan McLaughlin, singer-songwriter with the Musers_2026-08-14_interview on KZSC's "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" KZSC Santa Cruz by "Dangerous Dan" Orange
With Anita re-joining, they are back to the original trio after a 2 year hiatus; they first hatched the idea for The Musers in 2017; Anita (Sandwina) & Megan (McLaughlin) are the 2 songwriters (Tom (Kuhn) 'just ;) plays bass); The Money Question (have you been able to make a living playing music…
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Lacy J. Dalton_Americana Singer-Songwriter_interview 2026-07-31 on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club"\by Dan Orange aka "Dangerous Dan", "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez) & "Momento Maury" (Maury Burnett-Cavoto)
Lacy J. lives up in the mountains above Reno; after she turned 21, she (then Jill) ran off with a rock n' roll guitar player to a commune in Capitola; she me, & lived wiht, her 1st & 2nd husbands in the Santa Cruz Mountains; she changed her name when she was 33 years old when she got a record…
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'The Pillars' aka Sleepy John Sandidge & Richard Stockton, hiking the Coast from Santa Cruz to San Francisco _interview 2026-07-31 on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club"
Sleepy John & Richard were 2 of 4 (the others being Ben Rice & Laurence Bedford) hiking the northern California coast when they came upon a big building with part of the underlying earth washed out, allowing them to stand underneath it, and pose as pillars holding it up - the the name "The...
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Bill Monning_California State Senator (ret.)_2026-07-24_interviewed on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
n 2019 Bill sponsored SB347, the Sugar-Seetened Beverage (aka SSB) Warning label act - it made it out of the health committee & appropriations (the latter because it was "de minimis"), but died on the Senate Floor due to machinations of "Big Soda"; "Big Soda" & "Big Food" got an initiative on the...
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Michael Gaither_Singer, Songwriter, Music Journalist, Trivia night host_interview 2026-07-24_ on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Michael was born & raised, & still lives in, Watsonville (mom from there, too); new venue in mid-county at SeaScape Golf Course on Club House Drive; monthly trivia nights there, plus Trivia Nights at El Vaquero Winery & Bargetto; Michael playing SeaScape tonight for happyp hour as a duo; opening…
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Rosemary Menard_SC City Water Dept head_interviewed 2022-11-18 on KZSC'S 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club'
The water district owns 4000 acres, including the Loch Lomond reservoir; the water department is asking the City of Santa Cruz to vote on a new direction on 11/29 that will "climate-proof" the water system; demand-based pricing incentivizes rationing; "Wetter wets and Drier Drys", and planning…
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Scott Cooper_Singer, Songwriter, Journeyman in Grateful Dead cover bands_on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" interviewed by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "Momento Maury" (Maury Burnett-Cavoto)
Scott's band "Rosebud" started just before Covid as a project with piano player Laclan Kane (where "Rosebud" is featured prominently at the end of "Citizen Kane"); Scott played an original, which he classififed as a "Jerry Garcia yacht rock song", "You Never Need to Say"; songs take a while,...
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Tricia Webber_SC County Clerk & Registrar of Voters_2026-06-26 interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "Momento Maury" (Maury Burnett-Cavoto)
Tricia is both County Clerk & Registrar of Voters; she came to Santa Cruz in 1997, having followed a boy from college - she's from Santa Ynez, near Solvang (the Danish capital of the USA), & was at Fresno State, working for the Curry Company in Yosemite Valley, but when the park closed due to...
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Richard Hoover (co-founder) & Brenda Martinez (sales director) - Santa Cruz Guitar Company_2026-06-19_interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Richard is star struck, having listened to Bushwhacker's since way back when he used to get up really early to come in to work before musicians would wake up; he grew up in the San Joaquin Vally & moved to Santa Cruz when he was 14-15-16 taking a page out of Jack Kerouac; he needed to be close...
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Gail Pellerin_28th District Assemblymember_2026-06-19_interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
The constitutional deadline to pass a budget out of the legislature was last Monday at midnight, & required a 3-part agreement to avoid delays (Assembly, Senate, Governor); 4 budget sub-committees but 64 hearings; health subcommittee dealing with crisis in California, which rejects cuts - HR1...
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Mary Gauthier - Singer - Songwriter_2026-06-12_interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
calling in from Seattle, where "we" played last night; "we" = she & Jaymee Harris, who opens & performs with her - Nashville is home; Mary had her on label, "On the Black", & people are buying vinyl now - sitting & listening to the record intentionally; streaming is useful when she's out walking,...
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Lis DuBois - E.D. of Boys & Girls Clubs of Santa Cruz Country_2026-06-12_interview KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Momento Maury" (Maury Burnett-Cavotto)
When did Lis (pronounced "Lee") DuBois (pronounced "do-BWAH") move to our area & what brought her here? ("Great question!"): she moved here in 2012/2013 when she & her husband were living in San Jose - Lis missed the ocean, haviing grown up in Orange County...after they moved here, her husband...
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Barbara Higbie_pianist, singer-songwriter & multi-instrumentalist_2026-06-12_interview on KZSC's "Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club"
Barbara & Teresa Trull met at the Reno Gay Rodeo, where Barbara was a fiddler in a band & Teresa a singer/songwriter; when they played at the Great America music hall in San Francisco (when Barbara sat in as Teresa's piano player), they got a standing ovation after their first song; they became a...
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John Laird_California State Senator_2026-06-05_interviewed on "The Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club" by "Dangerous Dan" Orange, DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez) & "Momento Maury" (Maury Burnett-Cavoto)
Last Tuesday's primary was the most unusual Gubernatorial election in California history, with many (most?) Democrat voters holding their ballots to the bitter end in case there was another Eric Swalwell; late votes are skewing Democrat, impacting a San Luis Obispo Supervisor race & a...
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Tom Lehrer tribute_Ron 'Snoozy' Sandidge & Richard Stockton (promoters)_2024-11-22 interview on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club by "Dangerous Dan" Orange
Snazzy does a tribute every year, and this year's, in honor of Tom Lehrer, is a benefit for music in the schools of Santa Cruz County; Lehrer was a Harvard grad student, contributor to "That Was The Week That Was" (TW3) who later put out an album of songs he created for TS3; when "The Foremen"...
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(Michael) Schoolcraft & (Mike) Murray_singers, songwriters, satirists 2024-07-26 interview on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club'
(Michael) Schoolcraft & (Mike) Murray met 20 years ago in LA when both were taking acting classes (Mike Murray was working delivering food), and, when they realized they both loved improv and played guitar, decided to join forces; with their senses of humor, wrote first song, "My Baby Loves the...
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Poi Rogers (Carolyn Sills & Gerard Egan) - Singers-Songwriters_2024-08-02_interview on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club' by 'Dangerous Dan' Orange
Gerard & Carolyn got the idea for "Poi Rogers" during the pandemic lockdown, which Gerard took as an opportunity to learn Hawaiian-style steel guitar, and they learned how to play as a duo, and Carolyn learned how to play stand-up bass; working on an album; Carolyn as a story-teller in…
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Laurie Jennings_part of Singer, Songwriter duo Jennings & Keller_2026-05-15 interview on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club' by 'Dangerous Dan' Orange, 'DJ Spark Plug' (Dylan Estevez) & 'Maury-the-Mentee' (Maury Burnett-Cavoto)
Laurie tours the country in an RV performing as a singer/songwriter duo with Dana Keller; started Main St. Cafe in Homestead, FL as a venue "for musicians by musicians"; Laurie has always been a performer, starting in theater in New York City; hurricanes, politics impacted the Main St. Cafe, &…
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Gail Pellerin, California 28th District Assemblymember - 2026-05-15 interview on on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club' by 'Dangerous Dan' Orange, 'DJ Spark Plug' (Dylan Estevez) & 'Maury-the-Mentee' (Maury Burnett-Cavotto)
Yesterday was a hard day, with both "Suspense File Day" & the Governor's "May Revise"; andy bill that makes it out of a policy committee that has a cost "of significance" goes into the "Suspense File" - "of significance" =is = or > $50,000; there were 637 bills in the Assembly's "suspense file":...
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Brad Kava_Good Times, Growing Up in Santa Cruz_interviewed 2026-05-22_on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club' by 'Dangerous Dan' Orange, 'DJ Spark Plug' (Dylan Estevez) & 'Momento Maury' (Maury Burnett-Cavott)
Brad arrived in Santa Cruz in 1978 after graduating college in New York & hitch hiking acros sthe country; worked at The Independent, which later became the Metro; & the Good Times (which was across form the Cooper House, & Brad was their 1st music reviewer); went to UC Berkeley School of...
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Luigi Oppido - Pleasure Point Computers_interviewed 2026-05-22_on KZSC's Bushwhackers Breakfast Club by "Dangerous Dan" Orange, "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez) & "Maury-the-Mentee" (Maury Burnett-Cavotto)
Luigi's family arrived in Santa Cruz in the 1930s (!!!), & his grandfather bought a house in 1937 (!!!)....for $12,000!!! (his grandfather packed meat, & sold ice); Luigi opened up his shop in 2011; "The Money Question" (are you able to make a living doing what you do?) "Yes!!! ...because I live…
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Adam Scow - 3rd Annual Mariachi Festival_interviewed 2026-04-24 on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club by "Dangerous Dan" Orange, "DJ Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez) & "Maury-the-Mentee" (Maury Burnett-Cavotto)
This Sunday will be the Third Annual Mariachi Festival at Cabrillo College, & will feature 6 mariachi bands, 4 of which are youth bands, as well as one class & Adam's band, Mariachi Libertad; youth bands include UC Santa Cruz; Adam has been in the area 8 years, with a day job dealing with...
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Ginger Shulick Porcella (ED) Santa Cruz Museum of Art & History_2026-04-24 interview on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club' by 'Dangerous Dan' Orange, DJ Spark Plug (Dylan Estevez) & Maury-the-Mentee (Maury Burnett-Cavotto)
The MAH is now in its 30th year, and recently celebrated with their Red Ball Gala, which raised over $130,000 for the MAH (although it was pouring, so they had to pivot & move 200 people indoors, where DJ Spooky from New York entertained them)! the MAH oversees 3 sites, the main museum in…
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Jennifer Merchant (ED) & Kayla Traber (Dev't Dir) - Grey Bears_2026-04-24 interview on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club' by 'Dangerous Dan' Orange, DJ Spark Plug (Dylan Estevez) & Maury-the-Mentee (Maury Burnett-Cavotto)
Grey Bears recently secured a larger location, acquiring a warehouse (& 2.5 acres) that was previously owned by Palace Arts. which was sold to a Bay Area company (Triple A), but with the local store being managed by a son of the original owner; Grey Bears was built around seniors & healthy food,...
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THE FUTURE IS PEACE: Interview with Palestinian and Israeli Peacemakers Aziz Abu Sarah and Maoz Inon | Transformation Highway, KZSC Santa Cruz
Audio interview with Palestinian Aziz Abu Sarah and Maoz Inon from Israel about their new book The Future is Peace on "Transformation Highway" with host John Malkin on KZSC 88.1 FM / kzsc. org. Their local book event is at Temple Beth El in Aptos on Monday, April 20, 7:00PM. The book event is...
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Poi Rogers (Carolyn Sills) - Album Release shows for 'Whirligig'_interview 2026-04-10 on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club'
Calling in from Capitola, but hittting the road in an hour to tour in support of new album, "Whirligig", a 6 song EP & 10" vinyl project coming out May 1st (officially), but advance copies available for purchase at shows - Santa Cruz show coming 2 weeks from tomorrow; songs on "Whirligig" include...
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Chris Berry & Laurie Egan_State of the San Lorenzo River 2026 Symposium & Tour_interview 2026-04-10 on KZSC's 'Bushwhacker's Breakfast Club' by "Dangerous Dan" Orange & DJ "Spark Plug" (Dylan Estevez)
Started in 2015 with a grant to improve the scientific literacty of lay people about our watershed & its issues, inspired by former Santa Cruz city water director Rosemary Menard - & they've held the State of the San Lorenzo River Symposium almost every year since; our California State Senator…
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