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Landowner Insider
by Kasey Mock
Welcome to the Landowner Insider! We exist to help accomplish your goals through land ownership. On this show, host Kasey Mock will interview experts from the world of land ownership. From finance, title and legal, to oil and gas, land management, conservation and more: We want to share as much knowledge possible through stories of adventure in the outdoors. Go Get em!Land Broker Insider is presented by The Mock Ranches Group at Keller Williams International, 2018 National Recreational Land Broker of the Year.
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The Future of Texas Land Management Is Changing Fast
Texas land is changing quickly. Ranches are getting smaller, development pressure is increasing, and landowners are being asked to balance conservation, production, recreation, and long-term stewardship in new ways. In this episode of Landowner Insider, Kasey Mock sits down with Shane Kiefer, CEO of Plateau Land & Wildlife Management, to discuss what the future of Texas land management looks like and how landowners can adapt. This conversation goes beyond traditional wildlife tax valuations and explores how land stewardship has evolved across the state. Kasey and Shane discuss the growing demand for comprehensive land management, the challenges of smaller properties, and the pressures created by development and population growth. They also cover how landowners are approaching habitat management, grazing, invasive species control, and long-term planning, along with the role private land plays in supporting wildlife across Texas. Kasey and Shane provide practical, experience-based insight into what it takes to manage land effectively in today's environment. If you own land or are considering it, this episode offers a clearer understanding of how Texas land is changing and what it means for long-term ownership and stewardship. https://plateauwildlife.com/
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What Happens When No One Manages Your Land
Most landowners don't fully realize what they've signed up for after buying a ranch. It's not just ownership. It's ongoing oversight, management, and responsibility. When a property sits unattended, small issues can quickly turn into expensive problems. In this episode of Landowner Insider, Kasey Mock sits down with Adam Greene of Rafter Land and Ranch Solutions to break down what actually happens when land is left without consistent management. From water systems and livestock to fencing, roads, and general maintenance, they walk through the real challenges landowners face when no one is regularly on the property. This conversation also explores why hiring a single ranch hand often falls short, what effective management looks like behind the scenes, and how many landowners end up trading time and energy for frustration instead of the freedom they expected. In this episode, we cover common mistakes landowners make after purchasing a ranch, how lack of visibility leads to compounding issues, the role of infrastructure in maintaining property value, and what it takes to protect and manage a long-term land investment. Kasey and Adam share practical, experience-driven insight into what it really takes to maintain and protect a ranch over time. If you own land, or are considering buying it, this episode will give you a clearer understanding of the responsibilities that come with it and how to approach ownership more effectively.
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The $1,700 Per Acre Tax Strategy Most Landowners Miss
Kasey Mock has spent years working with landowners across Texas, and one thing continues to stand out. Many are overpaying in taxes without realizing it, year after year. They focus on generating income from their land, but often overlook one of the most significant opportunities available to them. In this episode of Landowner Insider, Kasey sits down with Kyla Dodson, land consultant, legacy strategist, and speaker, to break down a lesser-known tax strategy that is changing how landowners think about wealth. The tax code is designed to reward certain behaviors. Some landowners are learning how to unlock additional value from their property and use it to reduce tax liability while reinvesting into future opportunities. This conversation goes beyond tax savings. It focuses on understanding the system and making more informed decisions around land ownership and long-term wealth. In this episode, we cover what the Legacy Nutrient Deduction is in simple terms, why many professionals are not yet discussing it, who may qualify, how some landowners are approaching deductions on a per-acre basis, and the difference between saving money and strengthening a balance sheet. Kasey and Kyla bring practical, real-world perspective to a complex topic, making it easier to understand and apply. If you own land or are considering it, this episode will give you a new way to think about taxes, ownership, and long-term strategy. https://boasafraag.com/rp-landowner/?rid=kyla%40kyladodson.com&utm_source=partner&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=referral-2025&utm_content=kyla-dodson-wdu&utm_term=KDODSWDU
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This Is Why Land NEVER Goes to Zero
Kasey Mock has spent years studying and observing the Texas land market. He has seen buyers succeed and others make costly mistakes they never saw coming. In today's shifting market, land is one of the most talked-about investments, but most people do not fully understand what they are buying into. In this episode of Landowner Insider, Kasey sits down with ranch expert Josh Deal to break down what is really happening in the Texas land market. They cover rising prices, hidden costs, and why land continues to hold value even when other assets feel uncertain. This conversation goes beyond real estate. It explores legacy, stewardship, and the decisions that impact landowners for generations. In this episode, we cover why land behaves differently from traditional investments, the hidden costs many landowners underestimate, where current opportunities exist in North Texas, what separates a productive property from one that is simply aesthetic, how experienced buyers approach long-term ownership, and the realities of market cycles, timing, and decision-making. Kasey and Josh share practical insight from years of experience in the field, discussing both the opportunities and the challenges of land ownership. If you are thinking about buying land, selling a ranch, or making more informed decisions about your property, this episode will help you approach the market with greater clarity.
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The Biggest Financial Decision a Landowner Will Ever Make
You sold your land, now comes one of the biggest financial decisions of your life. For many landowners, this moment represents years, even generations, of hard work turning into a single major financial outcome. What happens next determines whether that wealth is preserved and grown, or slowly lost over time. In this episode of the Landowner Insider Podcast, we sit down with Jeff Smitherman, a 30-year Marine Corps veteran and advisor with Trusted Capital Partners, to break down what landowners should do after unlocking significant equity. This conversation goes beyond tactics. It focuses on understanding the tradeoffs between control, liquidity, and long-term growth, and making decisions that can impact your family for generations. In this episode, we cover the mistake that can cost landowners a significant portion of their wealth, what happens when you access large amounts of capital, the difference between preserving and losing value after a land sale, how 1031 exchanges work in simple terms, what a Delaware Statutory Trust is and when it may make sense, who these strategies are designed for, and why patient capital often outperforms short-term thinking. If you are thinking about selling land or currently hold significant equity, this episode will help you approach your next decision with more clarity and confidence. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer, solicitation or recommendation to sell or purchase any security or other financial product. Trusted Capital Partners, LLC; Saxony Securities, Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC. www.pbabbate.org
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This Strategy Turned Land Into a $3.5M Tax Deduction
This strategy turned land into a 3.5 million dollar tax deduction, and most landowners are completely missing it. Companies like Bird Dog are helping landowners unlock it. In this episode of the Landowner Insider Podcast, we sit down with the team behind Bird Dog, a land intelligence platform built to help landowners turn their property into a high-performing financial asset. Kasey Mock breaks down how modern landowners are transforming property from a passive asset into a powerful wealth-building tool. Most landowners do not realize how many opportunities exist on their land. Bird Dog is changing that by combining technology, data, and relationships to help owners discover new ways to generate income, reduce costs, and optimize long-term value. In this episode, we cover how Bird Dog helped uncover a strategy that led to a 3.5 million dollar tax deduction, why holding land is costing more people than they realize, multiple ways to monetize land beyond traditional ranching or farming, how Bird Dog connects landowners to income streams like hunting, leasing, and agricultural use, how data and relationships help landowners make smarter decisions, and what separates landowners who profit from those who simply hold. If you own land or are planning to own acreage, this episode will show you how platforms like Bird Dog are redefining what is possible.
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The New World Screwworm Threat with Texas Animal Health Commission
We do not have enough cowboys for what is coming. This screwworm threat could cost ranchers millions. In this episode, we sit down with Dr. T.R. Lansford of the Texas Animal Health Commission to break down the growing risk of the New World screwworm and what it could mean for ranchers, landowners, and the livestock industry. Screwworms were wiped out in the United States decades ago, but as they move north through Mexico, another outbreak is becoming a real possibility. The question is how long we have. In this episode, we cover what screwworms are and why they are so dangerous to livestock, the real economic impact on cattle, wildlife, and landowners, how to spot an infestation early before it spreads, what landowners should be doing right now to prepare, and how quarantines and movement restrictions could affect your operation. If you own land, run cattle, or are involved in agriculture in any way, this is a conversation you need to hear. Learn more at https://screwwormtx.org and http://screwworm.gov
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How to Build a Successful Ranch Without Going Broke
So many cowboys want a ranch, but nobody talks about how to actually build one without going broke in the process. In this episode of Landowner Insider, we dive into ranching for profit, smart investing, and why starting with cows might be the biggest mistake beginners make. Whether you are starting a small ranch, investing in land, or trying to turn your operation into a profitable business, this conversation will change how you think about building wealth in agriculture. We cover the difference between cash flow vs lifestyle ranching, how to turn your money over faster, and why real estate investing and alternative strategies can accelerate your path to owning a ranch. This is real-world experience from building, failing, learning, and scaling. If you are serious about building a ranch from scratch, avoiding costly beginner mistakes, creating income from land and livestock, and growing wealth through smart investments, this episode is for you.
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Raising Money for Flooded Texas Farmers and Ranchers
Go to www.mockranches.com/mr-gives to donate to Texas farmers and ranchers who were affected by the July floods. The Mock Ranches Group and Mock Ranches Gives (an established 501(c)(3)) has a goal of raising $200,000 for Texas farmers and ranchers who were directly affected by the July Floods. 100% of the funds, donations, and supplies raised will go directly Texas agricultural producers to help them rebuild fences, corrals and agricultural infrastructure lost in the floods. With the money raised, we will purchase gift cards from local farm & ranch stores. These gift cards will be distributed to Texas farmers and ranchers who received damage during the floods. We will partner with these stores to ensure the recipients are receiving the best pricing possible on their supplies. How can you help: 1) Donate to MR Gives 501(c)(3) here: www.mockranches.com/mr-gives 2) Donate items to our Benefit auctioned by emailing [email protected] I promise you will receive the best exposure possible for your donations, and they will be tax deductible Timeline: Our goal is to have the auction items ready for Auction to be held Saturday, August 2nd, In conjunction with our benefit fishing tournament, also benefiting Texas flood victims. Cash donations by Saturday August 2nd. We will start distributing gift cards and donations the week of August 4th
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Land Broker Mastermind: Remote Teams, AI, and Scaling in 2026 | Tyler Davis
In this episode, Kasey Mock sits down with Tyler Davis to talk through what's changing in land brokerage, and what still matters. They cover practical mastermind takeaways, building and managing remote teams, and how brokers can adapt as technology (including AI) reshapes research, marketing, and operations. Tyler also shares perspective on Florida's real estate growth, infrastructure pressure, and how conservation policy intersects with land values—then compares those dynamics to Texas, including the realities of conservation easements, funding, and long-term stewardship. Topics include: • Mastermind insights and business strategy for land brokers • Remote work systems and team structure • AI in real estate: what's useful vs. what's noise • Florida market dynamics: growth, infrastructure, land use pressure • Conservation in Florida vs. Texas, easements, and investment considerations • Eminent domain implications and policy collaboration Subscribe for more Land Broker Insider conversations on land, markets, stewardship, and the business of brokerage.
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Leadership Under Pressure: From Combat to Real Estate & Investing | Schuyler Williamson
In this episode, we're joined by Schuyler Williamson—entrepreneur, military veteran, and author of The Steady Leader—for a practical conversation on leading with clarity when pressure is high. Drawing from his experience as a combat officer (with deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan) and as a high-performing real estate and investment professional, Schuyler shares leadership models that translate directly into business: decision-making in uncertainty, staying steady when the stakes rise, and building teams that perform without chaos. We also discuss wealth-building through real estate, the mindset behind long-term ownership, and how high achievers can operate with discipline, consistency, and purpose. Learn more and pre-order Schuyler's book The Steady Leader: https://www.thesteadyleader.com Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Background 03:05 The Journey of Writing a Book 05:59 Strategic Thinking in Leadership 09:00 Military Strategy and Business Parallels 11:50 Analyzing Risks and Making Decisions 14:59 Offensive vs Defensive Strategies in Business 17:48 The Importance of Cash in Risk Management 21:05 Leadership and Responsibility 23:59 Purpose-Driven Leadership 27:00 The Role of Vision in Leadership 30:02 Communicating Strategy and Change 32:53 Building and Protecting a Business 36:01 The Balance of Stability and Change 41:04 Understanding Team Dynamics and Values 47:01 The Importance of Faith in Leadership 53:30 Wisdom Through Experience and Spirituality 01:01:32 Navigating Anxiety and Decision-Making 01:10:45 The Journey to Ranch Ownership and Family Values
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The Future of Land Brokerage: Standards, Tech, and Professionalism | Dan Murphy (RLI)
In this episode, Kasey Mock is joined by Dan Murphy, President of the Realtors Land Institute (RLI), for a conversation on why professionalism and education matter more than ever in land brokerage. They discuss RLI's role in shaping industry standards, the history and mission behind the organization, and how training, accountability, and ethical representation protect landowners, buyers, and the reputation of the land business. The episode also covers how technology is changing real estate—and why transparency and collaboration will define the next chapter of the industry. Topics include: • What RLI is and why it matters in land brokerage • Professional standards, education, and ethics • Technology's impact on real estate and brokerage practice • Accountability, transparency, and industry reputation • Building trust through collaboration and higher expectations Timestamps 00:00 The Journey of RLI and Its Historical Significance 03:12 Professionalism in Land Brokerage 06:05 The Importance of Education and Designation 09:11 Challenges Facing the Real Estate Industry 11:56 The Role of Technology in Real Estate 14:52 Accountability and Standards in Real Estate 17:50 The Future of Real Estate and RLI's Role 25:17 Wealth Generation in Real Estate 26:14 Legislative Changes Impacting Real Estate 28:59 The Future of Real Estate and Environmental Accountability 29:30 Market Forecast and Consumer Behavior 32:25 Global Issues Affecting Real Estate Investment 34:46 The Role of RLI in Protecting Landowner Rights 39:03 Professionalism in Real Estate 43:20 Upcoming Events and Industry Engagement
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Post-Election 2025 Real Estate Outlook: Land, Rates, and Buyer Confidence
In this episode of Land Broker Insider, Kasey Mock and Max Ramsey break down the real estate landscape heading into 2025 following the election cycle and the shift in market sentiment they're seeing from brokers, buyers, and sellers. They discuss what's changed over the past few years—market retraction, inflation pressure, and tighter decision-making—and what to watch next: demand drivers, confidence signals, and how to build a practical plan for buying or selling land in a changing environment. The conversation also covers impact fees, why market dynamics matter at the local level, and long-term strategies for successful real estate and land investments. Topics include: • 2025 market outlook and post-election sentiment • Buyer and seller motivations in shifting conditions • Impact fees and local market dynamics • Long-term investment thinking and creating a game plan • How brokers and landowners can stay strategic in 2025 Chapters 00:00 Post-Election Market Confidence 02:50 Recapping the Real Estate Landscape 06:01 Market Dynamics and Industry Changes 08:50 Understanding Impact Fees and Market Constraints 12:01 Motivations Behind Buying and Selling 15:07 Long-Term Strategies in Real Estate Investment 23:41 Real Estate Trends in Texas 30:06 Investment Strategies and Mindset 39:59 Building a Strong Financial Team 42:59 Looking Ahead: Goals and Aspirations
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Trophy Bass on Private Ponds: Lake Management Tips (Part 2) | Steven Bardin
In Part 2, Kasey Mock sits down with fisheries biologist Steven Bardin of Texas Pro Lake Management to talk through what it really takes to build and maintain a trophy bass fishery on private land. They cover practical pond and lake management strategies—from habitat and forage planning to stocking, water quality, and long-term maintenance—plus common mistakes landowners make that cost time and fish quality. Whether you're improving an existing pond or planning a new lake build, this episode offers a clear framework for better results. Topics include: • Trophy bass strategy for private ponds and lakes • Habitat, forage base, and stocking plans • Water quality, aeration, and seasonal management • Pond/lake construction considerations • Common pond management mistakes to avoid Learn more about Texas Pro Lake Management: https://txprolake.com
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Talking 2024 Hunting Season with Tejas Hunt Club Part Two
HUNTING SEASON 2024 is finally here! On Episode 502 of the Land Broker Insider Podcast, we continue our dive into hunting stories with Brandon McDow and the Tejas Hunt Club! Kasey and Max were guests on Tejas Hunt Club earlier this month, and we are bringing you that recording here as well. Go follow Tejas Hunt Club here
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Trophy Bass on Private Ponds: Lake Management Tips (Part 1) | Steven Bardin
In Part 1, Kasey Mock sits down with fisheries biologist Steven Bardin of Texas Pro Lake Management to cover the fundamentals of private pond and lake management for landowners. They discuss what it takes to build a healthy fishery—from setting goals and evaluating your pond to habitat improvements, forage, stocking strategy, and the early planning considerations that matter most when improving an existing pond or building a new lake. Topics include: • Private pond and lake management basics • Trophy bass goals, forage, and stocking strategy • Habitat improvements and water quality fundamentals • Planning considerations for pond/lake construction Learn more: https://txprolake.com
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Talking 2024 Hunting Season with Tejas Hunt Club Part One
HUNTING SEASON 2024 is finally here! On Episode 50 of the Land Broker Insider Podcast, we dive into hunting stories with Brandon McDow and the Tejas Hunt Club! Kasey and Max were guests on Tejas Hunt Club earlier this month, and we are bringing you that recording here as well. Go follow Tejasd Hunt Club here
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Cedar Eater Spence Hegener
Kasey and Josh Deal sat down with the Cedar Eater, Spence Hegener. Spence's company has been the leader in mechanical brush clearing in Texas for 24 years. Kasey, Josh and Spence discuss best practices for brush control and improving a piece of land. Contact Spence for a quote at www.cedareater.com Contact us at www.mockranches.com for your real estate goals.
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Clarity Wins: Systems & Referrals with Coach Abe Shreeve
In this episode of Land Broker Insider, Kasey Mock sits down with top business coach Abe Shreeve to break down what high-performing agents do differently—especially when the market feels uncertain. The conversation focuses on clarity, mindset, and the relationship systems that consistently generate referrals. You'll learn Abe's practical framework for growing a referral-based business, including a 5-step relationship process, how to build a small circle of "super referrers," and how to stay intentional, systematic, and consistent with communication. They also discuss why many professionals hesitate to invest in growth, and how training + repeatable systems create long-term stability. Key topics Why clarity is a competitive advantage Relationship-building that actually produces referrals Abe's 5-step process for consistent communication Building "super referrers" and staying top-of-mind Systems, training, and the mindset to scale Learn more: MockRanches.com Questions: [email protected] More on Abe Shreeve: millionairebusinessnetwork.com
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How Kasey Mock Built a Ranch Real Estate Business | Wealthy Cowboy Interview
*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "f4087194-5e1c-42cf-a41e-13f0b03eafa8" data-testid= "conversation-turn-500" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn= "assistant"> n this special episode, Kasey Mock joins Crockett Carothers on The Wealthy Cowboy Show to share his entrepreneurship journey—from a blue-collar country upbringing to building a thriving ranch and land real estate business. Kasey breaks down the lessons that shaped his career, including his time working alongside Gary Keller / Keller Williams, how he helped build a successful farm & ranch division, and why leveraging time, resources, and better questions creates momentum in business. They also cover practical wealth-building themes: owning real estate as a business strategy, partnerships, tax considerations, and giving back. Topics covered Entrepreneurship lessons from the early years Building a ranch & land real estate business Efficiency: time, resources, and asking better questions Real estate as a long-term wealth tool Partnerships, tax strategy, and legacy-minded giving Learn more: MockRanches.com
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Renewable Energy Values and Big Data with Craig from LandGate
Kasey Mock, Matt Gruetzner and Max Ramsey of www.mockranches.com sit down with Craig Kaizer, President of LandGate www.landgate.com. The guys discuss renewable energy values, why top brokers understand the whole bundle of sticks, and the new technology available through LandGate and LandApp.. This was a live recording from the Realtors land Institute https://www.rliland.com 2024 National Land Conference in Louisville, KY. Landgate Instagram Mock Ranches Instagram Realtors Land Institute Instagram
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Mapping Innovations and Technology with Steve Roberson from Land id
Kasey Mock, Chad Andrus and Max Ramsey of www.mockranches.com sit down with Steve Roberson, Founder and President of Landid, formerly MapRight https://www.id.land. The guys discuss innovations and the evolution of mapping technology, availability of data, and mapping as a tool. This was a live recording from the Realtors land Institute https://www.rliland.com 2024 National Land Conference in Louisville, KY. Mock Ranches Instagram Realtors Land Institute Instagram
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Selling Big Mountain West Ranches with M4 Ranch Group - Live from National Land Conference
Kasey Mock https://www.mockranches.com sits down with Dan Murphy, Seth Craft and Jake Murphy of M4 Ranch Group https://m4ranchgroup.com. M4 is a team of dedicated ranch brokers, licensed in Colorado, New Mexico and Wyoming. Their slogan is "Anywhere, any time." These guys are simply the best in the west for selling large western ranches. This was a live recording from the Realtors land Institute https://www.rliland.com 2024 National Land Conference in Louisville, KY. The guys discuss trends in large ranch sales, their commitment to excellence, and share fun stories. M4 Ranch Group Instagram Mock Ranches Instagram Realtors Land Institute Instagram
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Building Profitable Referral Relationships with Bill Davis
This week, Kasey Mock and Bill Davis discuss building profitable referral partnerships. They emphasize collaboration, transparency, and setting clear expectations. Bill highlights documenting expectations to avoid misunderstandings in partnerships. They also discuss decision-making for deals and ensuring clarity on responsibilities and commissions, and the importance of fostering strong industry relationships through communication and professionalism.
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15 Questions Leaders Ask Themselves
This week, Kasey talks about 15 reflective questions to ask yourself for a better you! 1. Who are you? 2. What do you believe? 3. What motivates you? 4. How do you define fulfillment? 5. What do you need to control? 6. What do you need to let go of? 7. How would you rate your spiritual health? 8. How would you rate your physical health? 9. How would you rate your key relationships? 10. What does money mean to you? 11. Why do you want more of it? 12. How do you know when you have enough? 13. Does your environment support your goals? 14. Do you have a clear sequential path to your goals? 15. What's the ONE THING you can do, such that by doing it, everything else would become easier or unnecessary, in each of these categories?
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Adventure Hunting, Conservation, Airplanes and Logistics with Nathan Olmstead
This week, Kasey Mock talks with his friend Nathan Olmstead, who runs Muskwa Outfitters in Canada and discusses his operation with him. Nathan shares how his father started the business back in the 1980s and their focus on providing hunting experiences for families and corporate clients. They talk about their conservation efforts, including a wolf cull program to protect caribou herds, as well as the challenges they face from government regulations. The conversation also touches on topics like hunting taxes, logistics of running an outfitting business, multi-species slams, intentional parenting through outdoor activities, conventions like Dallas Safari Club and Safari Club International where new clients can be found, booking timelines for different hunts, and the various species available for hunting. To learn more about Nathan and his business, check out: https://www.olmsteadhunting.com/
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New Plane, Investing, 1031s and Tax Strategy with Matt Gruetzner, ALC at Mock Ranches
This week, Kasey Mock talks with Matt Gruetzner about his business strategies in multiple disciplines. Matt discusses his transition from working in the oil field to real estate. Matt shares his knowledge on various topics related to grass producition, the sustainability of box meat providers, the shift in people's preferences for knowing where their food comes from, buying and selling Texas land, transitioning generational properties into income-producing options, obtaining the Certified Land Consultant designation, the importance of asking quality questions when working with buyers and sellers, 1031s and tax strategy.
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The Time For 2024 Business Goal Planning is NOW
On this episode, Kasey Mock discusses how important it is to set aside time to complete your business goal planning for 2024. He explains the SWOT assessment (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats) and encourages listeners to evaluate their internal strengths and weaknesses as well as external opportunities and threats. Kasey highlights some potential threats in the real estate industry such as data disruption, political factors, weather patterns, and economic conditions, and stresses the need for proactive goal planning sessions before each new year to avoid reactive decision-making because of those threats. Kasey also urges entrepreneurs to involve key stakeholders like CPAs and wealth managers in goal-setting discussions for both personal finances and business growth. Check out the GPS planning tool here
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Husband Wife Real Estate Teams
On this episode, Kasey Mock talks with his wife and CFO of Mock Ranches Group, Elizabeth Mock. They discuss various topics such as their roles in the company, their personal journey together as a husband-wife team in business, and the challenges they faced during COVID-19. They also talk about their financial strategies and how they became more proactive in managing their finances by finding a better CPA. They dive into common mistakes made by husband-wife business owners, including avoiding financial conversations or hiring their spouse out of selfishness or scarcity mindset, and how building a lifestyle around income too early can hinder reinvestment back into the business and impede its growth. Finally, they discuss how it is crucial for business owners to hire based on qualifications rather than personal relationships to ensure optimal success in fulfilling promises made to employees, customers, contractors, vendors, and family members.
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Real Estate, Faith and Family with Jonathon Goode
On this episode, Kasey Mock talks with Jonathon Goode about their approaches to work, faith, family, and even podcasting. They share personal stories about how their faith has helped them overcome challenges in their businesses. Kasey and Jonathon also touch on time management and prioritizing what is most important in their lives. They discuss the importance of not leaving their partners and agents feeling neglected or forgotten as they make changes in the company, and emphasize the need to invest in leadership and personnel to ensure a successful career. They highlight how companies that tighten up during recessions tend to lose market share, while those that focus on growth can gain an advantage. The importance of coaching is also emphasized, with examples given from different industries where coaches play a vital role in improving performance. They also discuss current real estate market conditions, including interest rates and gaps between price points where business is affected by costs and availability of financing options. For the appreciation graph from Gary Keller's Mastermind that Kasey mentioned, click here
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Gary Keller's 12 Biggest Leadership Mistakes Part Two
On part two of this episode, Kasey and Max continue their discussion of Gary Keller's 12 Biggest Leadership mistakes. They dive into failing to inspect expectations, both qualitatively and quantitatively, and share how inspecting progress regularly allows for course correction and prevents falling short of goals. They discuss the pitfalls of failing to help people grow, as it hinders a company's consistent growth pattern and healthy culture. They also discuss how letting goals be the bad guy can lead to personal relationships interfering with accountability in business relationships, because effective leaders are willing to have difficult conversations and hold people accountable based on expectations rather than emotions or personal relationships.
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Gary Keller's 12 Biggest Leadership Mistakes Part One
On this episode, Kasey and Max discuss how businesses need to solve problems for customers through scaling, which requires leveraging time and resources. He highlights that many entrepreneurs struggle with hiring due to lack of clear vision or planning. Kasey and Max also dive into the twelve leadership mistakes they heard Gary Keller present at Mega Agent Camp in Austin, TX this year. Kasey explains that leadership is about providing vision, energy, and managing people, money, and culture, and acknowledges that finding and motivating the right people is a common struggle for businesses today. Tune in next week for part two!
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Josh Deal Part Two: Government Entities That Serve Land Owners
On this episode, Kasey Mock continues his conversation with Josh Deal, and they dive into government programs that benefit land owners, such as county extension agents, Agri Life Extension offices,Texas Parks and Wildlife, and NRCS (Natural Resource Conservation Services). These agencies provide consulting services, research facilities, and assistance in managing wildlife populations or addressing soil erosion issues on properties of any size. Josh also discusses programs available for cost-sharing on specific practices like grass planting or brush management through programs like Environmental Quality Incentive Program (Equip). Additionally, he shares tax benefits for landowners who manage their property for wildlife or pollinators, and how income caps may apply to some cost-share programs based on non-farm income levels. Overall, these government resources offer valuable assistance in achieving land management goals and reducing property taxes while promoting conservation efforts.
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Josh Deal Part One: Determining a Property's Value
On this episode, Kasey talks with Josh, an expert in range ecology and rangeland management, about his background working for USDA's Natural Resources Conservation Service before transitioning into real estate. Josh explains how he helps buyers and sellers achieve their goals by assessing a property's potential and creating a plan based on their objectives. Kasey adds that there is currently an imbalance in the real estate market with too many agents and not enough business to go around due to factors like technology advancements. Kasey and Josh discuss the importance of pricing in selling properties, and break down how buyers have knowledge of a property's worth and will only pay what they believe it is worth, regardless of the listed price. They also highlight the risk sellers face when passing on offers within range, as potential buyers may move on to other properties.
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LIVE Wealth Building Mastermind
On this episode, Kasey delivers a Mastermind on the significance of setting goals for financial health and overall life balance before diving into wealth building strategies. He highlights the need to have a compelling "big why" behind one's pursuit of wealth rather than solely focusing on money itself. Kasey discusses various strategies for real estate investment, including buying multiple homes with financing, flipping properties, and investing in land. He explains the advantages and disadvantages of each approach, emphasizing the importance of not working for the same dollar twice. Kasey also highlights the tax benefits of investing in residential multifamily and commercial real estate. Kasey shares various ways to save on taxes, emphasizing the importance of maximizing profitability in business. He explains the use of the Augusta Rule, which allows renting personal property for tax-free income, and also highlights paying children a tax-free salary and utilizing cost segregation for rental properties as effective strategies.
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June Land Broker Mastermind: Strategies for The Current Real Estate Market
On this episode from the June Land Broker Mastermind, Kasey Mock breaks down data on the real estate market, stating that there are too many Realtors for the current demand but believes that there is still enough opportunity for anyone to make a living or even earn a million dollars. He compares navigating a shifted market to how American buffaloes charge through storms instead of running away, emphasizing that leaning into challenges leads to faster success. Kasey stresses knowing one's numbers and viewing business as a math equation in order to adapt successfully during market shifts. He discusses agent categories based on performance levels and explains that churn during previous recessions primarily occurred in the middle tier rather than at the top or bottom levels. Kasey discusses how the market has been impacted by various factors such as political circumstances, COVID-19, and low interest rates that have prevented necessary corrections from happening. He explains why it is crucial to understand market cycles and know your numbers to avoid making emotional decisions based on comparisons with neighbors or past trends. Being a local trusted advisor is still essential as people prefer doing business with someone they trust rather than going digital or remote. Kasey dives into how investment-grade properties, especially ranch land, are currently in high demand due to investors seeking diversification and wealth protection amidst anticipated economic changes. Kasey emphasizes that it's necessary for real estate professionals to focus on managing their math equation (offense) rather than just riding the wave of favorable market conditions because eventually there will be a downturn (defense).
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Abe Shreeve Part Three: Investing in People
Kasey Mock continues his conversation with Abe Shreeve about leadership. Abe discusses the value of investing in people and allowing them to make mistakes in order to learn and grow. He advises business owners to avoid micromanaging their employees and instead empower them to make decisions. They share insights on leadership development, including creating systems for reporting progress and providing coaching support. They also break down hiring strategies, categorizing talent into unproven, emerging, and proven categories, with a preference for emerging talent as they have potential for growth without demanding high salaries like proven talent does. For more information on the Millionaire Business Network, go here.
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Abe Shreeve Part Two: Communication in Coaching
On this episode, Kasey and Abe discusses the loneliness that comes with business ownership and leadership, highlighting how even as a business grows, leaders can feel isolated. Abe suggests being vulnerable within your team and having two-way accountability to combat this loneliness. Abe shares an example of implementing a communication model called "The Scales of Awesome" with his comanpy's president, Charlotte, to improve their working relationship. Additionally, he mentions the value of taking leadership teams to conferences for growth and development.
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Abe Shreeve Part One: The True Definition of Coaching
On this episode, Kasey Mock talks with Abe Shreeve about the definition of the sacred art of coaching. They discuss consultative coaching versus teaching, highlighting that coaching is not a one-size-fits-all approach. Abe explains that coaching involves wearing different hats depending on what is needed, whether it's providing answers or helping clients discover their own solutions. Kasey and Abe also touch on the value of accountability and driving progress in business through coaching. They also reflect on vulnerability in coaching, and emphasize that coaching focuses on where individuals want to go and what they are willing to do to get there.
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Charge The Storm Part Two
In this episode, Kasey and Max discuss the importance of systematic behavior, purposeful business, models, and leverage in achieving success, citing examples they heard from Gary Keller recently. They emphasize the need to focus on core activities and building relationships with clients, while also leveraging the talents of others. Max provides insights on achieving breakthroughs and the importance of clarity and purposeful conversations. They remind everyone not to run from the storm, but to charge it.
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Charge The Storm Part One
On this episode, Kasey and Max discuss options for real estate agents during market shifts: do nothing, safety up, or charge through it by getting serious about offensive strategies like doubling down on value provided, metrics, conversion rates and lead generators. They also share insights gained from attending Keller Williams Family Reunion where they learned about charging the storm and being intentional about training and standards for being on a team. Max discusses the real estate market shift and the need to adapt by doing more and learning the math. Thy emphasize that not everyone will survive this shift, but being proactive and having a strong offensive strategy can lead to success. Kasey and Max discuss playing the long game in business, being surrounded by the right people, and thinking strategically as a leader.
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Chad Landrus: Top Producer Shares Tips for Success as a Land Broker Part One
On this episode, Chad discusses his goals for the coming year with Kasey, which include growing the Houston business by bringing in more agents. The conversation then turns to the importance of partnering and collaborating with others, especially in times of market shifts. Coaching is emphasized as a key tool for growth and success, and cutting it during tough times can be detrimental. Kasey breaks down how simplifying through systems, leverage, support, and proven models is crucial for navigating complexity and making strategic decisions that make sense for your business. Kasey and Chad also discuss the importance of tracking numbers and knowing where business comes from in order to invest properly.
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Chad Landrus: Top Producer Shares Tips for Success as a Land Broker Part One
Kasey Mock talks with Chad Landrus about how he went from operations to selling as an agent, and Chad shares tools he learned along the way that led him to being the top producer on the team.
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Bobby Moats - Onward Faster Podcast
Kasey was recently a guest on the Onward Faster Podcast with Bobby Moats, where he discussed his journey in real estate, his team philosophy, and how Livian has accelerated his business. Introduction 0:00-1:04 Kasey's Journey 1:05-21:44 Discusses changes in his business Talks about creating a business plan and getting resources from KWRI Talks about leadership and leverage Discusses a mastermind they do monthly Discusses the importance of focusing on income-producing activities Livian and how it helps them stay in their strength zone Talks about the challenges of operating alone in a business Encourages listeners to learn from other people's experiences Conclusion 21:47-44:24 Kasey gives his final thoughts on the importance of leveraging resources and learning from others' experiences.
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Adam Winters - The Land.US Podcast
Kasey was recently a guest on The Land.US Podcast to discuss his journey to founding the Mock Ranches Group, his business philosophy, the future of Land, crypto and a whole lot more. He also gives great advice for folks looking to buy recreational land, environmental challenges for Texas as the population explodes and the 1031 Exchange. Enjoy the conversation and Go Get em! (0:30) - Kasey's journey to founding Mock Ranches Group The Millionaire Real Estate Agent - Gary Keller The One Thing - Gary Keller (3:46) - What are Agrilife Resources? Texas A&M Agrilife Extensions Natural Resources Conservation Service Farm Service Agency Texas Forest Service Texas Parks and Wildlife (5:32) - How Kasey's experience in Agrilife programming gave him a leg up (6:37) - Kasey's Servant Leadership mentality (13:37) - How do you coach young people to be hungry enough to build a relationship-based business and not transaction-based? (17:37) - Thinking like a business person, not a sales person (21:49) - "Luxury" Hires vs. Business Hires (23:07) - What does a better future for real estate look like? (25:54) - Crypto as a contrast to land investments (27:00) - What do the next 5 years look like for Land? (29:53) - If land is going up, are we really buying high if we buy now? (34:54) - Advice to folks in a 1031 Exchange position right now #5: Greg Lehrmann - The 1031 Exchange (37:32) - Why the 1031 is one of the greatest tools to stimulate economic growth and spending (43:25) - What is someone getting into when they buy recreational land? (49:55) - What environmental challenges do you predict from the mass migration away from cities into rural areas? (57:00) - How can new residents be positive advocates for the environmental impact the rush of people to Texas will cause? (59:13) - Kasey on Smart Databases Land Broker Insider is produced by Straight Up Podcasts
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Greg Lehrmann - The 1031 Exchange
Greg has over 25 years experience in commercial and residential real estate law. He dedicates a significant portion of his time speaking to attorneys, CPAs, escrow officers, real estate agents/ brokers and investors on the many ways to improve investment returns through IRC Section 1031. His exchange presentations are practical and feature many real-life exchange scenarios to illustrate a wide range of investment and tax strategies. On this episode, Greg breaks down the 1031 exchange as it pertains to selling land. He and Kasey present a scenario to walk through each step in the process of creating the best possible investment returns through Section 1031. Enjoy! (0:36) - What is a 1031 Qualified Intermediary? (2:42) - The 1031 Exchange (5:53) - Market Capitalism (6:48) - Scenario: What a 1031 Exchange is and what it does (18:23) - applications to primary residences (19:46) - The importance of timelines (25:20) - Negative surprises on money you reinvest (26:12) - Having a great broker team for Land Rich and Cash Poor folks (29:26) - What point is the seller taxed on the gain from our scenario? (32:48) - What landowners should know about the new administration's tax plan www.1031taxreform.com/takeaction (35:08) - Conservation Easements (40:18) - What does a qualified intermediary do? (44:59) - Wrap up (46:56) - Where to learn more about 1031 Exchanges and connect with Greg Greg's Contact: (866) 266-1031 [email protected] www.apiexchange.com Land Broker Insider is produced by Straight Up Podcasts
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Angeliina Lawsson - 'Land On The Range LLC'
Kasey was recently a guest on the Land On The Range LLC Podcast to discuss the land buying process, setting goals when investing in land, buying homes on acerage and what to consider when buying livestock. Enjoy this conversation and Go Get em! Interviewer: Angeliina Lawson RLI Land Realtor Licensed Kansas & Missouri (0:34) - What Kasey wishes he knew when buying his first piece of land (1:57) - Establishing a goal when investing in land (4:40) - What are the steps in planning your first home on acerage? (12:12) - What do land owners need to consider when buying livestock? (18:17) - Wrap Up Keller Williams Land Division Land Broker Insider is produced by Straight Up Podcasts
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Justin Osborn: 'The Voices Of Land RLI Podcast'
Kasey was a recently a guest on The Voices Of Land RLI Podcast with host Justin Osborn to talk about the benefits of the RLI organization. Enjoy this conversation and Go Get em! (0:45) - How Kasey got involved with RLI Realtors Land Institute (4:36) - Justin & Kasey meeting for the first time (5:28) - The diversity & reliability of RLI ALC - Accredited Land Consultants (8:28) - Leadership at RLI (10:52) - The Cooperation of RLI members & Technology coming into the industry (12:41) - Perfecting your value proposition as an agent (16:13) - The RLI Mastermind Group Land Broker Mastermind on Facebook (20:50) - Who do you talk to and where do you go if you want to be successful in any industry? Land.com MapRight (23:40) - The importance of creativity The Brian Buffini Show (24:48) - The correlation between client benefits and RLI RLI Course Schedule Land Investment Analysis Class Land 101 Class Land Broker Insider is produced by Straight Up Podcasts
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Neil Dudley: The Cowboy Perspective - Part 2
(0:52) - Your business is only as good as the people within it Matthew 25:14-30 (5:38) - Thoughts on our relationship with God & The Bible (8:55) - Why do we pursue success? C12 Business Christian network (12:28) - We get to pick our own Prophets (13:35) - The value of the Cowboy Mindset Can't Hurt me - David Goggins Extreme Ownership - Jocko Willink (23:48) - Reading Atlas Shrugged - Ayan Rand (25:50) - The Value of a Dollar Rich Dad Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki Shift - Gary Keller The Millionaire Real Estate Investor - Gary Keller Profit First - Michael Michalowicz (35:08) - More on Land Broker Insider Podcast (37:19) - Advice on getting into real estate The Millionaire Real Estate Agent - Gary Keller Bigger Pockets Podcast (41:31) - The boredom of business (45:41) - Gary Keller & Tim Hile (49:34) - Wrap Up Land Broker Insider is produced by Straight Up Podcasts
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Neil Dudley: The Cowboy Perspective - Part 1
On episode #1 of Land Broker Insider, Kasey shares part 1 of his interview on The Cowboy Perspective podcast with Neil Dudley. This episode will give you a deeper insight into Kasey's background, this new podcast, setting goals and more. Go get 'em! Land Broker Insider is presented by The Mock Ranches Group at Keller Williams International, 2018 National Recreational Land Broker of the Year. (2:08) - Kasey's Background and his story growing up (3:32) - Kyle, Texas & Aggies (7:38) - Where does your competitive nature come from? Land Broker Mastermind Facebook Group (14:04) - Disruption eliminating industries Business Wars Podcast - BlockBuster & Netflix (16:15) 'Better' Doesn't always Win (20:10) - Kasey's Podcast Re-launch The One Thing - Gary Keller (27:40) - Comparing yourself to others (32:24) - Setting Goals Maps Coaching (38:52) - Not Everything Matters Equally Land Broker Insider is produced by Straight Up Podcasts
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to the Landowner Insider! We exist to help accomplish your goals through land ownership. On this show, host Kasey Mock will interview experts from the world of land ownership. From finance, title and legal, to oil and gas, land management, conservation and more: We want to share as much knowledge possible through stories of adventure in the outdoors. Go Get em!Land Broker Insider is presented by The Mock Ranches Group at Keller Williams International, 2018 National Recreational Land Broker of the Year.
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