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Leadership @ the Kitchen Table

by Berlin Maza

Captain Berlin Maza & Deputy Fire Chief Bill Mack sit down with leaders in all professions and industries from across the country to have leadership conversations at the firehouse kitchen table! Leaders share their stories, philosophies and perspectives on leadership. They talk about their non-negotiable behaviors, actions and traits, as well as offer action items for newer employees, emerging leaders, and senior members of organizations to grow as leaders!

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Episodes

  1. Ep: 106: Chuck Heitz (ret.) - Own Your Training & Stay Positive

    Retired Battalion Chief Chuck Heitz draws on his experience with King County Medic One to discuss personal responsibility for training and professional growth. Your department can provide opportunities, but it cannot anticipate everything you need to learn. Chuck challenges us to ask: What...

  2. Ep: 105: FC Eric Saylors, BC Kyle Andersen, BC Marcus Regan - Preparing Future Leaders

    In this episode, three fire chiefs discuss the Succession Project—an initiative started by one battalion chief to create an environment where current and emerging leaders can prepare for future roles. They explore how the project brings leaders together several captains across the department to...

  3. Ep. 104: Anthony Kastros, Battalion Chief (ret.) - Every Problem is a Human Problem

    On the 25th anniversary of September 11, Battalion Chief Anthony Kastros opens with a tribute to the lives lost and the families and communities forever affected, reminding us to “Never Forget.” He explores why all problems are ultimately human problems, how to overcome “recliner snipers,” and…

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  4. Ep. 103: Dave Tait, Fire Chief - Succession Planning & Problem Solving

    Fire Chief Dave Tait of the City of Bellevue Fire Department in Washington takes us inside the world of leadership, problem-solving, and succession planning. In this episode, Chief Tait unpacks what he calls the “monkey” in problem-solving—the issues we can unintentionally take on ourselves…

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  5. Ep. 102: Pete Brummel, Deputy Chief (ret.) - Vulnerability Creates Credibility

    Pete Brummel, retired Deputy Chief and 35-year veteran of the fire service, for a powerful conversation about authentic leadership and the personal work required to lead others well. Pete shares lessons from a career spent serving, leading, and developing people, with a focus on the importance of...

  6. Ep. 101: Brooke Lundquist, PhD, LMHC - Advocating for Mental Health

    Dr. Brooke Lundquist is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor who has dedicated her career to supporting the people who answer the call. With more than 25 years as part of a fire service family, she brings both professional expertise and personal perspective to the unique challenges facing first...

  7. Ep. 99: David Brannan, CHDS NPS Program Director - Stay in the Fight

    David Brannan, Program Director at the Center for Homeland Defense and Security at the Naval Postgraduate School, joins us for a conversation on staying in the fight—both professionally and personally. He discusses the importance of mentorship, succession planning, and developing the habit of...

  8. Ep. 94: Chuck DeSmith, Deputy Fire Chief (ret.) - Resiliency & Peer Support

    Chuck DeSmith, a retired Deputy Fire Chief with 35 years of service at Renton Regional Fire Authority in Washington draws from decades of leadership experience sharing his passion for peer support and the importance of modeling resiliency within the fire service. He challenges today’s leaders to...

  9. Ep. 93: Paul Conway, Assistant Chief (ret.) - A Life Full of Mistakes

    With more than 40 years in the American Fire Service, Paul Conway’s journey—from firefighter to assistant chief of the Milwaukee Fire Department—is a masterclass in leadership earned the hard way. Throughout his career, he served at every level of the organization—operational, tactical, and...

  10. Ep. 92: Mike Gagliano, Captain (ret.) - Remember Your Mission

    Retired Seattle Fire Department Captain and 2008 FDIC International keynote speaker Mike Gagliano brings decades of fireground leadership and life-earned wisdom to the show. As president of the Firefighter Air Coalition and co-author of Air Management for the Fire Service and Challenges of the...

  11. Ep. 90: Randy Chevalier, Fire Chief - Leading thru Crisis

    Fire Chief Randy Chevalier of Timber Mesa Fire and Medical District shares hard-earned lessons on leading through crisis and challenge. Having guided his department through three firefighter line-of-duty deaths, Chief Chevalier discusses the importance of building a solid support team inside and...

  12. Ep. 87: Sionna Stallings-Ala'ilima, Fire Chief - Servant Leadership

    Fire Chief Sionna Stallings-Ala'ilima of the Tacoma Fire Department talks Family & Servant Leadership! Be purposeful on how you show up every day in whatever role you are in, because pessimism and optimism are both contagious! Every leaders holds a certain amount of power. The most influential of...

  13. Ep. 85: Adrian Sheppard, Fire Chief - Succession Planning & Strategy

    Fire Chief Adrien Sheppard of the Redmond Fire Department dives deep into Succession Planning & Strategy. He stresses the importance of talent acquisition, cultural fluency and providing for fail safe environments for growth and development of your people to take place. Succession planning is not...

  14. Ep. 84: Jerry Wells, Battalion Chief (ret.) - Be Here Now

    Retired Battalion Chief Jerry Wells of the Lewisville, Texas Fire Department discusses how the Fire Service is the Ultimate Team Sport! He stresses the importance of "Being Here Now," whether you are busy training, working out, or playing video games , make sure your mind, body and soul are all…

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  15. Ep. 83: Jake Rhoades, Fire Chief - Leading People through Change

    Fire Chief Jake Rhoades of the City of Buckeye Fire-Medical-Rescue Department in Arizona unpacks leading people through change. Leaders must always be leaning in: Be students of the profession, learn the job above you and teach the job below you. Build your networks early. Be intentional with the...

  16. Ep. 80: Shane Smith, Deputy Chief - Leading through Adversity

    Deputy Chief Shane Smith of Twin Falls, Idaho talks leading through adversity and how everything starts with humility. Strong leaders have the ability to reflect, have a servant's mindset, as well as practice mindfulness. Shane also dives into the importance of fire service instructors investing...

  17. Ep. 79: Tim Rogers, Battalion Chief (ret.) & Greg Elmore, Senior Master Sergeant (ret.) - Leading is your Job no Matter What your Job is

    Battalion Chief Tim Rogers (ret.) of Charlotte Fire Dept. & Senior Master Sergeant of the Air Force Greg Elmore (ret.) dive deep into the topic of how "Leadership is your job no matter what your job is." It is never too early to start learning leadership. Leaders have got to start building a...

  18. Ep. 73: Tim Kreis, Executive Assistant Chief & Tim Gammage Jr, Captain/Executive Vice President - Labor & Management Relationships

    Labor & Management Team of the Phoenix Fire Department - Executive Assistant Chief Tim Kreis and Captain/Executive Vice President Tim Gammage Jr. team up in today's conversation to talk about the importance and successes of the Labor & Management Relationship. Discussion dives into the leadership...

  19. Ep. 72: John Lovato Jr, Battalion Chief - Chase your Experience

    Battalion Chief John Lovato Jr. of the City of St. Myers Fire Department in Florida talks about chasing your own experience and don't wait around for it. The author of Fix your Firehouse, founder of Brotherhoodcoaching.com, and host of the John Lovato Show, chief says you are either winning or…

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  20. Ep. 71: Matthew Love, Fire Chief - The Whole Package of Leadership

    Fire Chief Matthew Love of the St. Cloud Fire Department discusses the “WP" or the Whole Package of Leadership,” including Servant leadership. The whole package includes being an 1) effective leader, 2) effective manager and 3) having a servant's heart. New FFs and new Leaders must open…

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  21. Ep. 70: Steve Lea, Deputy Chief - Empowerment

    Operations Chief Steve Lea of Cocoa Beach Fire Department in Florida discusses the importance of empowering your people. Get outside your department, learn from everywhere and bring it back to your department. Culture change can start from the bottom. Ego is the enemy!

  22. Ep. 69: Nick Langlow, Deputy Chief - Human Skills of Leadership

    Operations Chief Nick Langlow of Gig Harbor Fire & Medic One talks the human skills of leadership. Not every organization has the unicorn leaders. Some have great leaders, some have great managers. Organizations need both. Prepare for the job you want, prepare for the job you have, but don't…

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  23. Ep. 68: Steven Dubay, Deputy Fire Chief (ret.) - Learn from Everywhere

    Deputy Fire Chief Steven Dubay (ret.). of Colorado Springs Fire Department's emphasizes to all leaders to "Never Stop Learning." Feedback is a gift. Look in the mirror and look at yourself first when trying to become your best self. Know your strengths, know your weaknesses, take advantage of...

  24. Ep. 67: Michael DeStefano, Deputy Chief - Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs for Firefighters

    Deputy Chief Michael DeStefano of Jupitor Fire Rescue Department dives into Maslow's Hierarchy of needs, specifically for firefighters. He talks about the inverted pyramid as leaders serving others, as well as the "How can I help you culture," striving to wow all customers, internal and external....

  25. Ep. 64: Jack Rives, Lieutenant General - True Leadership is More than a Title

    Lieutenant General Jack Rives of the United States Air Force and Executive Director of the American Bar Association dives deep into leadership being much more than just a title. You must always hold people accountable and lead by example. There are no good leaders out there who are not good...

  26. Ep. 61: Dan Shaw, Assistant Chief (ret.) - Command Mindset

    FDIC 2022 Keynote Speaker and co-author of 25 to Survive: Reducing Residential Injury and LODD, Assistant Chief of Operations Dan Shaw (ret.) talks the "Command Mindset," and Mission First, People Always! Stuck on what to train on? Train on these 7 categories: 1) Communications, 2) Positioning…

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  27. Ep. 60: Randy Bruegman, Fire Chief (ret.) - Pay it Forward & Leave it Better

    Founder of the Leadership Crucible Foundation, Fire Chief Randy Bruegman emphasizes the need to "Pay it forward, leave it better, and do the right thing even if it's hard." The best leaders are change managers, they learn how to have courageous conversations, understand strategic change and…

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  28. Ep. 58: Heather Marques, Division Chief - Leading with Love

    Division Chief Heather Marques of Alameda County Fire Department encourages leaders to lead with love. Leadership is influence! Try to default to positivity, Understanding Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs will help leaders better understand the needs of the people they lead. From her thesis paper,...

  29. Ep. 57: David Stone, Division Chief - Positive Mindset & Emotional Intelligence

    Division Chief David Stone of South Walton Fire District dives deep into what Emotional Intelligence is and what leaders can do to incorporate these importance characteristics into their leadership development! Chief also talks about why negativity and complaining is so easy for leaders and how a...

  30. Ep. 56: Shannon Stone, Fire Chief - Adversity & Opportunities

    Fire Chief Shannon Stone of Midway Fire District talks company officer leadership, adversity, high performing teams and cultures. Are you a leader who sees problems or sees opportunities? Leaders must be good at teaching and sharing information. They should be an expert at their job and every job...

  31. Ep. 55: Dave McGylnn, Fire Chief - The Training Officer

    Fire Chief Dave McGlynn within Federal Fire and Emergency Services talks all things training. We are talking what makes an effective training officer as well as training division. Are you a teacher and educator or are you just in the position of teaching? You're not a teacher unless they're...

  32. Ep. 54: Johnny Torgeson, Assistant Chief - Forging your Team

    Assistant Chief Johnny Torgeson of MCLB Barstow Fire & Emergency Services talks Forging your Team! He outlines the differences between a group vs crew vs team, as teams are what we should be striving for in the fire service! Chief Torgeson also differentiates between mentoring and coaching as…

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  33. Ep. 53: Scott Booth, Assistant Chief - Vulnerability & Followership

    Assistant Chief Scott Booth of Gig Harbor Fire & Medic One talks about the the necessity of being vulnerable in effective leadership. In his EFO paper, he unpacks "shared struggle," encouraging leaders to create opportunities for their team or crew to struggle together, instead of relying on…

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  34. Ep. 52: Dena Ali, Battalion Chief - Mental Wellness & Modeling Vulnerability

    Battalion Chief Dena Ali of the Raleigh Fire Department in North Carolina talks peer support., destigmatizing mental health and modeling vulnerability. Our guest has conducted extensive research on the mental health challenges faced by first responders, including the impact of trauma and stress,...

  35. Ep. 49: Jarrod Sergi, Battalion Chief - No Nonsense Leadership

    Battalion Chief Jarrod Sergi of Norfolk Fire Rescue (VA) and author of the book "No Nonsense Leadership," A Realistic Approach for the Company Officer talks "There is no greater privilege than the privilege to lead people." Jarrod talks about how being an instructor is one of the most important...

  36. Ep. 48: Chris Stewart, Deputy Chief - No "Good Dudes" Leadership

    Deputy Chief Chris Stewart formally of the City of Phoenix Fire Department talks "No more good dudes" leadership in the fire service. It takes so much more than being just a good dude or good gal to be a strong leader. You must be highly credible and highly competent to be effective. Chris says,...

  37. Ep. 46: Dennis Doan, Fire Chief - Weigh in to Buy in

    Fire Chief Dennis Doan of Gig Harbor Fire & Medic One talks about the 5 dysfunctions of a team. Your first team should be the team that you are on, not the team that you lead. You gotta step up if you want to make positive change. No silos, leaders must weigh in to have buy in. Everyone should...

  38. Ep. 45: Tony McGuirk, Fire Chief (ret.) - The "What if" in Customer Service

    Fire Chief Tony McGuirk (ret.) of several fire departments in the United Kingdom and one of the original founders of the Community Risk Reduction concept talks extensively about the "What if" in delivering customer service as a fire service. He discusses ways in which the United Kingdom continues...

  39. Ep. 44: Corley Moore, Battalion Chief - Never Ending Fight Against Complacency

    Battalion Chief Corley Moore of the Moore Fire Department in Oklahoma, Founder of Firehouse Vigilance, "The Never Ending Battle to Fight Complacency," as well as host of the fire service leadership podcast, "The Weekly Scrap," joins the Kitchen Table to talk about fighting complacency. Author of...

  40. Ep. 42: Troy Gibson, Captain - Creating your Wolfpack

    Captain Troy Gibson of Hawai'i Fire Department talks about your wolfpack. Do you have one? If not, get one. Build relationships with people inside and outside your fire department, so you don't find yourself in an echo chamber. Make sure those in your wolfpack are honest with you, tell you what…

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  41. Ep. 39: Lee Cockerell, Disney Executive - Creating Disney-Like Magic

    Disney Executive Lee Cockerell reveals the magic of Disney customer service. From poor farm kid to running Disney operations, Lee talks about the importance of having a good attitude, being reliable and having empathy. EVERYONE is watching! The secret is to hire the right people, train them right...

  42. Ep. 38: Matthew Vinci, Fire Chief - Perspectives & Inclusion

    Fire Chief Matthew Vinci of Vashon Island Fire & Rescue talks about the importance of networking, building relationships and listening to perspectives in order to get things done. Everybody at the table adds value, whether you agree or disagree with them and the lack of inclusion is simply a...

  43. Ep. 37: Mark Emery, Fire Chief - Honorable Leadership

    Fire Chief Mark Emery (ret.) of East Valley Fire District talks the Essentials of Honorable Leadership. He emphasizes that leadership is not synonymous with management and supervision, and leaders must differentiate between the two. Leadership is the influence of yourself and you take it with you...

  44. Ep. 36: Gary Barker, Battalion Chief - Old School Leadership

    Battalion Chief Gary Barker of Valley Regional Fire Authority and Training Battalion Chief of Operations at the South King County Fire Training Consortium dives into "Old School Leadership" philosophies. Gary talks about how to become a respected officer, as well as the two traits that the most...

  45. Ep. 34: The Beltane Guild - Firefighter Reproductive Health

    President Maia Earle and Dr. Brittany Hollerbach of The Beltane Guild join the show to discuss firefighter reproductive health. The nonprofit organization works in collaboration with firefighters and researchers from across the country to raise awareness, improve safety measures, re-write policy…

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  46. Ep. 31: Bruce Avolio, PhD - Other Centeredness & Voice

    Dr. Bruce Avolio, PhD., Mark Pigott Chair in Business Strategic Leadership within the Foster School of Business at the University of Washington & co-director of the Seattle Fire Dept. Executive Leadership Academy talks about how rank at times can get in the way of others having a "voice," (or...

  47. Ep. 30: Christina Fong, PhD - Growth Mindset & Psychological Safety

    Christina Fong, PhD, Associate Dean of Undergraduate Programs at the University of Washington Foster School of Business and co-director of the Seattle Fire Department Executive Leadership Academy talks the growth mindset, identity and power differences.. She emphasizes how strong psychologically...

  48. Ep. 29: Megan Lautz, Registered Dietitian - The Power of Nutrition in Leadership

    Megan Lautz, RD., registered dietitian and strength coach with Fairfax fire and police, talks the power of nutrition in leadership. Vulnerability in nutrition and fitness is key in strong leaders when looking for support in your nutritional habits. Megan talks caffeine, calories on the run…

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  49. Ep. 28: David Rhodes, Editor-in-Chief - Trust & Loyal Disobedience

    Editor in Chief of Fire & Rescue Media David Rhodes dives into how building trust and relationships and being competent are must-have's in a great leader. Chief Rhodes is a retired battalion chief of the Atlanta (GA) Fire Department as well as a chief elder for the Georgia Smoke Diver Program and...

  50. Ep. 25: Annette Zapp, Lieutenant - Firefighter Wellness

    Lieutenant Annette Zapp of Fire Rescue Wellness talks about the 4 pillars of wellness for firefighters: 1) Sleep, 2) Nutrition, 3) Exercise and 4) Mental Health. She encourages all to build a solid foundation early in your fire service career as you will never be less busy than when you were…

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Captain Berlin Maza & Deputy Fire Chief Bill Mack sit down with leaders in all professions and industries from across the country to have leadership conversations at the firehouse kitchen table!

Leaders share their stories, philosophies and perspectives on leadership. They talk about their non-negotiable behaviors, actions and traits, as well as offer action items for newer employees, emerging leaders, and senior members of organizations to grow as leaders!

HOSTED BY

Berlin Maza

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