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Leading the Way with Jill S. Robinson
by TRG Arts
Leading the Way with Jill S. Robinson is a journey into the international arts and culture industry. Join Jill, a driving force in the sector who has counseled arts leaders for more than three decades, for conversations with some of the most insightful and daring minds leading the way to a resilient 21st century.
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Before We Talk About Ticket Prices, Let's Talk About Demand
When revenue goals aren't being met, it's natural to look at pricing. Should tickets cost more? How high is too high? Should we discount more often? Are ticket prices driving audiences away? But what if price isn't the place to start? In Part 1 of this two-part conversation on demand, we step back to explore one of the most important questions facing arts organizations today: What actually drives demand? Join the TRG team as they examine the difference between demand and pricing, challenge some common assumptions about audience behavior, and discuss why organizations often spend too much time focused on ticket prices and not enough time understanding what makes people want to attend in the first place. Along the way, you'll hear practical insights about audience perception, the role of value and relevance, and why strong demand is built long before someone reaches the purchase page. This episode lays the foundation for the conversation ahead. Before organizations can influence demand, they need to understand how it works, what shapes it, and why it plays such a critical role in long-term revenue growth. In Part 2, we'll take the next step, exploring how organizations can identify demand signals, evaluate performance throughout the sales cycle, and make more intentional decisions about pricing, pacing, and revenue strategy. Key Takeaways: • Why demand and pricing are not the same thing, and why the distinction matters. • How audience interest, perception, and relevance influence attendance long before price enters the conversation. • Why pricing often responds to demand rather than creating it. • The role audience behavior plays in shaping revenue outcomes. • How perceptions of value and success influence purchasing decisions. • Why discounting isn't always the answer to revenue challenges. • What arts leaders should understand about demand before making pricing decisions. • The foundation organizations need in place before they can actively manage and influence demand.
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Why Your Revenue Problem Might Really Be A Relationship Problem
Most arts organizations can tell you their revenue targets. Fewer can clearly identify the relationships that will deliver them. As financial pressure continues across the sector, many organizations focus on short-term income. But as this episode explores, revenue doesn’t happen in isolation. It’s built through strengthening audience relationships over time. This conversation introduces TRG’s core relationship framework: Tryers, Buyers, and Advocates. It explores how organizations can better understand the behaviors already inside their CRM systems and use those insights to build stronger loyalty and more sustainable revenue. The TRG team also introduces four strategic focus areas that shape the season ahead: Recency, Demand, People, and Discipline — practical ways organizations can strengthen audience engagement and improve long-term financial stability. At the center of the conversation is a simple idea: organizations that focus intentionally on relationships are better positioned to navigate uncertainty, grow loyalty, and build sustainable revenue. Key Takeaways to Put Into Action: Revenue is built through relationships: Tickets, donations, memberships and subscriptions are outcomes of audience behavior over time. Your future revenue is rooted in past behavior: The people most likely to return may already be in your database. Not all relationships need the same approach: Tryers, Buyers, and Advocates each require different strategies and levels of investment. Frequency starts with recency: The sooner audiences re-engage, the more sustainable loyalty becomes. People-based planning creates clarity: Understanding audience behavior helps organizations forecast more accurately and prioritize resources more effectively. Discipline drives results: Sustainable growth requires consistent focus, accountability, and action.
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Leading the Way with Jill S. Robinson is a journey into the international arts and culture industry. Join Jill, a driving force in the sector who has counseled arts leaders for more than three decades, for conversations with some of the most insightful and daring minds leading the way to a resilient 21st century.
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TRG Arts
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