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Leading to Learn

by Saul Brown and Andrew Williams

Leading to Learn is a podcast that explores the dynamics of leadership and leadership development within todays complex world. Saul Brown and Andrew Williams are Australian based leadership scholar / practitioners who are focused on the role that leadership plays in social systems and organisational change. They both run private leadership development practices and work together at the Australian Graduate School of Management, University of New South Wales. Join Saul and Andrew as they explore the leadership required to go beyond the known and make progress on the trickiest problems.

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Episodes

  1. Ep. 7 Adaptive Leadership: Radical Ideas or Growing Relevance? with Nick Ellem

    Nick Ellem is one of the leading advocates of adaptive leadership in Australia. Whether its applying adaptive leadership in his own government work, contributing to the local practitioner community, or maintaining global connections in service of growing the impact of this work, Nick's passion…

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  2. Ep. 6 Reflections on 20 years of Adaptive Leadership in Australia with Rosamund Christie

    In this episode Saul and Andrew are joined by Rosamund Christie who is a leader in the area of adaptive leadership development in Australia to reflect on that work over the past 20 years. Rosamund ran the Sydney Leadership Program at Social Leadership Australia for many years, a provocative...

  3. Ep.5 Kind Business - David Cooke

    In this episode Andrew and Saul talk with Dr. David Cooke about his new book - Kind Business. David shares his experience leading Konica Minolta Australia / New Zealand to amazing results based on a values create value approach. David's work now helps others reimagine corporations and…

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  4. Ep.4 Getting Unstuck - Andrew's Book Launch

    In this episode we launch Andrew's new book - Getting Unstuck, How learning bravely is a superpower for personal growth and change. We look at examples where individuals, teams and organisations get stuck and what it takes to move beyond it.

  5. Ep.3 From Start-up to Social Innovation with Greg Muller

    In this episode Greg Muller shares his leadership learnings from a diverse set of of professional and personal experiences, from taking a digital start-up to market through to innovative ventures in the affordable housing and workplace mental health sectors. You can learn more about Greg's…

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  6. Ep.2 More Connection in Child Protection with Jarrod Wheatley OAM

    In this episode Saul and Andrew speak with Jarrod Wheatley OAM about his work in challenging the status quo in the out of home care sector and showing what’s possible when you prioritise connection over protection with children in care. Jarrod is the founder and CEO of Professional Individualised...

  7. Pilot Episode 1.1

    Leading to Learn is a podcast that seeks to understand the dynamics of leadership and leadership development within todays complex world. Saul Brown and Andrew Williams are two Australian based leadership scholars and practitioners who are fascinated in the role that leadership plays in social...

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Leading to Learn is a podcast that explores the dynamics of leadership and leadership development within todays complex world. Saul Brown and Andrew Williams are Australian based leadership scholar / practitioners who are focused on the role that leadership plays in social systems and organisational change. They both run private leadership development practices and work together at the Australian Graduate School of Management, University of New South Wales. Join Saul and Andrew as they explore the leadership required to go beyond the known and make progress on the trickiest problems.

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Saul Brown and Andrew Williams

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Leading to Learn is a podcast that explores the dynamics of leadership and leadership development within todays complex world. Saul Brown and Andrew Williams are Australian based leadership scholar / practitioners who are focused on the role that leadership plays in social systems and...

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