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Leaning In
by Trademark Property
Leaning In is a podcast exploring the future of mixed-use real estate. Trademark Property Company CEO Terry Montesi, and other executives, speak with experts from various backgrounds and areas to discuss mixed-use, multifamily, and brick-and-mortar retail, and what it looks like to lean into it while others are leaning out.For more information about Trademark, visit www.trademarkproperty.com
Episodes
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Where Retail Meets Logistics
Terry Montesi and Kevin Kessinger sit down with Luke Petherbridge, CEO of Blackstone's Link Logistics, on Leaning In to explore how e-commerce, industrial real estate, and physical retail have evolved from competitors into complementary partners. Luke brings a rare perspective; he's led major...
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Dana Telsey on Why Retail is Winning
Terry Montesi and Dana Telsey explore the evolving retail landscape through the dual lens of consumer behavior and real estate demand. Telsey, chief research officer and founder of Telsey Advisory Group, shares insights from three decades analyzing retail brands, department stores, specialty...
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Betting on Physical Retail with Sandeep Mathrani
In this episode, Terry Montesi sits down with Sandeep Mathrani to unpack a career defined by bold bets, operational discipline, and contrarian thinking in retail real estate. Sandeep shares how he got his start with a single apartment purchase and quickly evolved into a capital markets leader,...
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Reading the Market with JLL's Mark Gibson
In this episode of Leaning In, Terry Montesi sits down with Mark Gibson to break down the current state of real estate capital markets and what’s actually happening beneath the headlines. Mark shares a data-driven perspective on investor behavior, capital flows, and why many widely discussed…
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Decoding Retail Market Trends with JLL’s Monica Mason
Terry Montesi sits down with Monica Mason to explore what is really driving the resurgence of retail real estate investment in the United States. Drawing on her work analyzing capital markets data and investor behavior, Monica explains why retail fundamentals have strengthened in recent years and...
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From Dallas to Washington: Ray Washburne on Real Estate, Leadership, and Legacy
Ray Washburne joins host Terry Montesi on Leaning In for an in depth conversation about real estate, leadership, and the evolving landscape of Dallas. Ray reflects on his early entrepreneurial years, the lessons that shaped his investment approach, and the principles that guide his work across...
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Navigating Retail Real Estate: Insights from Kimco CEO Conor Flynn
In this episode of Leaning In, host Terry Montesi sits down with Conor Flynn, CEO of Kimco Realty, for an in-depth discussion about the evolution of retail real estate, the future of mixed-use development, and the trends shaping consumer behavior. Conor shares lessons from his two decades at…
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AI's Influence: Transforming Human Behavior and Retail Dynamics
In this forward-looking episode of Leaning In, Terry Montesi is joined by Bart Higgins and Katie Hillier of Future Perfect X, to explore how artificial intelligence is transforming the future of human behavior, retail, and placemaking. Drawing on their deep backgrounds in design, anthropology…
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The Art of Retail Reinvention: A Conversation with RH’s Steve Rouman
In this episode of Leaning In, Trademark CEO Terry Montesi sits down with Steve Rouman, SVP of Real Estate at RH, to talk about his journey from the landlord side of the business to leading real estate strategy for one of retail’s most design-driven brands. They dive into RH’s transformation into…
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Boom, Bust, or Balancing Act? 2025's Economic Outlook
In this special live episode of Leaning In, Trademark CEO Terry Montesi is joined by returning guest and renowned economist Dr. Peter Linneman to break down what’s shaping the economic landscape as we move through 2025. From inflation and interest rates to capital flows, consumer shifts, and real...
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Open-Air Retail, Supply-Demand Trends, and What’s Next with DLC's Adam Ifshin
The retail real estate landscape is evolving, and few people understand its intricacies better than Adam Ifshin, Founder and CEO of DLC Management. In this episode, Trademark CEO Terry Montesi sits down with Adam to discuss how value-driven open-air centers, omnichannel innovation, and...
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Retail’s Evolution: Malls, Department Stores, and the Road Ahead
The retail world is changing, and two of the biggest names in department stores—Dillard’s and Macy's—are at the forefront. In this episode, Trademark CEO Terry Montesi sits down with the SVPs of Real Estate: Chris Johnson of Dillard's and Chuck DiGiovanna of Macy's, to discuss Retail’s Evolution:...
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Celebrating 20 Years of Creating Community at Market Street Woodlands
Uncover the story behind one of Texas' most innovative mixed-use developments: Market Street - The Woodlands. In this episode of Leaning In, we revisit the groundbreaking opening of Market Street in The Woodlands, Texas—one of the nation’s first mixed-use town center projects. Join Trademark...
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Empowering Women in CRE: Insights from CREW Network’s Wendy Mann
How do we accelerate the success of women in commercial real estate? Wendy Mann, CEO of CREW Network, joins Monica Luera, Trademark’s VP of Development, on Leaning In to discuss advancing gender equity in the industry. This episode explores CREW Network’s groundbreaking research, leadership...
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Beyond the Rate Cut with Economist Dr. Peter Linneman
The Federal Reserve cut interest rates for the first time in over four years. So, what does that mean for inflation, future rate cuts, and real estate? In this episode, Trademark CEO Terry Montesi speaks with esteemed economist Dr. Peter Linneman about the impacts of rate cuts and why he says the...
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Navigating 2024 Retail with Data: Insights from Placer.ai’s Ethan Chernofsky
Over the past six years, Placer.ai has evolved into an essential tool for real estate professionals seeking location data and insights. Ethan Chernofsky, SVP of Marketing at Placer.ai, joins Kevin Kessinger, President and COO of Trademark, to discuss data in detail. Their conversation covers the...
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Retail Insights for 2024 with Brandon Isner
In this episode of Leaning In, we welcome Brandon Isner, thought leader in retail research. With over 15 years of industry experience, Brandon is a prominent voice in retail real estate. Alongside host Tommy Miller, Trademark’s Managing Director & CIO, Brandon shares valuable data insights on the...
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Retail Roundup from ICSC: Trends, Projects, and Market Evolution
Trademark’s leasing team brings you the latest retail trends and insights straight from ICSC Las Vegas 2024. They discuss topics capturing retailers' attention, from health and wellness brands driving retail expansion to brands that are making a comeback. Plus, leasing trends shaping our…
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Retail's Future: Resilience, Adaptation, and Innovation with Tom McGee of ICSC
In this episode, Tom McGee, President and CEO of ICSC, joins host Terry Montesi to explore the future of retail. ICSC elevates the marketplaces and spaces where people shop, dine, work, play, and gather. Drawing from ICSC's extensive industry research, Tom offers perspectives on the vitality of...
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Trademark of Success: Real Estate & Leadership Insights
It’s time to spotlight Trademark Founder Terry Montesi. In this insightful episode with Kevin Kessinger, Trademark's new President and COO, Terry shares his journey from the Memphis grocery business to groundbreaking retail and multifamily developments in Dallas Fort-Worth and beyond. Discover…
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The 2024 State of the Real Estate Economy with Dr. Peter Linneman
In this episode of Leaning In, we welcome back Dr. Peter Linneman, authority on real estate economics and principal at Linneman Associates, for an update on the current economic landscape. Peter shares his predictions for 2024, discussing pent-up demand, inflation, and the Federal Reserve's role....
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The Multifamily Market: 2024 Insights with Kimberly Byrum
Get a retrospective and a forward-looking perspective on multifamily from Kimberly Byrum, Zonda’s Managing Principal of Multifamily, in conversation with Trademark’s Chad Colley, Multifamily & Mixed-Use Partner. The two explore the challenges and triumphs of the asset class, touching on topics...
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Capital Markets Conversation: 2023 Insights with JLL’s Mark Gibson (R)
Mark Gibson, CEO of JLL Capital Markets Americas, joins host Terry Montesi for their yearly conversation on the state of capital markets. Tune in for a macro perspective of recent changes in interest rates and inflation, and the condition of the CRE banking and debt markets. Plus, Mark shares his...
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Making Headlines: DFW Real Estate with Dallas Morning News’ Steve Brown
Real estate journalist Steve Brown has chronicled top stories spanning the '80s savings and loan crash to the innovative developments shaping today’s Dallas-Fort Worth skyline. In this episode with host Terry Montesi, Steve Brown covers it all – from the biggest stories of his career at The…
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The New 9-to-5: Exploring Today’s Office Asset Class with Michael Dardick of Granite Properties
On this episode of Leaning In, Michael Dardick, Founder and CEO of Granite Properties, speaks with host Terry Montesi about the past, present and future of the office sector. They explore the performance of office assets and their resilience in critical U.S. markets. Additionally, Michael sheds...
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Retail Insights & Innovations with JP Suarez
JP Suarez, retired Executive Vice President, Regional Chief Executive Officer and Chief Administration Officer of Walmart International, sits down with host Terry Montesi. They discuss leadership and retail, tracing JP's journey from prosecutor to his influential role in Walmart’s business...
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Capital Markets Conversation: 2023 Insights with JLL’s Mark Gibson
Mark Gibson, CEO of JLL Capital Markets Americas, joins host Terry Montesi for their yearly conversation on the state of capital markets. Tune in for a macro perspective of recent changes in interest rates and inflation, and the condition of the CRE banking and debt markets. Plus, Mark shares his...
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Crafting Inspiring Spaces and Brands with Swoon, the studio
Dive into the design minds of Swoon, the multi-disciplinary design studio known for their expertise in luxury branding, interior design, and art direction. On this episode of Leaning In, host Cassie King, Trademark’s Senior Director of Design & Placemaking, is joined by Kevin Thomas & Lauren...
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Leading by Example: A Conversation on Leadership with Rand Stagen (R)
Links: Rand on LinkedIn Stagen Leadership Academy Good to Great by Jim Collins Built to Last by Jim Collins Developmental Politics by Steve McIntosh Conscious Capitalism The Institute for Cultural Evolution Timestamps: (1:01) - Rand’s background and career (3:02) - Rand’s experience...
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Data Driven Discussions: 2023 Retail Trends with Placer.ai's Ethan Chernofsky
Ethan Chernofsky, VP of Marketing at Placer.ai, joins Terry to dive into data-backed trends for retail, mixed-use and office. They revisit Ethan’s bold prediction for 2022 and discuss how consumer behaviors are shifting in 2023, from return to office, to experiential, and inflation. Plus, what...
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Leading by Example: A Conversation on Leadership with Rand Stagen
Terry Montesi sits down with friend Rand Stagen, CEO of Stagen Leadership Academy, to discuss the pillars of successful leadership in today’s polarized world. The conversation centers around the power of awareness in leadership and how strategically thinking about the future can create a better...
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Early 2023 Economic Trends with Dr. Peter Linneman
Dr. Peter Linneman, real estate economist and principal of Linneman Associates, joins Terry for another dynamic discussion on the current state of the economy. Listen for Peter’s projections on how the coming year may unfold in the U.S. and major Texas markets. Plus, he examines the potential...
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From Dreaming to Doing with Jessica Essl of M2G Ventures
M2G Ventures is a Dallas-Fort Worth commercial real estate company founded by twin sisters Jessica Essl and Susan Gruppi. In this episode, Terry sits down with co-president Jessica and they discuss her time in the industry as a woman and how her team is making an impact. Terry asks what she’s...
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Filling Market Gaps with Hotel Dryce’s Jonathan Morris (Part 2)
What happens when you lean into your niche and develop spaces for your community that they’ve been missing? For entrepreneur Jonathan Morris, it's created businesses where customers feel at home. In this episode, Trademark's Senior Director of Design & Placemaking Cassie King, and Creative…
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Filling Market Gaps with Hotel Dryce’s Jonathan Morris (Part 1)
Jonathan Morris’ idea of Fort Worth is creative, cool and collaborative. So when he struggled to find spaces that reflected his community, he set out to create them himself. His fix? Design-forward spaces that support visionaries and Black artists, reward boldness, and welcome all. Jonathan joins...
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Holiday Activations with SNOWDAY'S Scot Redman (Part 2)
In the second part of our conversation with Scot Redman of Baymo, hear how the experiential company is revolutionizing the holidays. Scot shares insight into his team’s creative process for SNOWDAY, and what they see for the future of the industry. Plus, Trademark’s Stephany Ruiz, Senior Director...
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Holiday Activations with SNOWDAY'S Scot Redman (Part 1)
From their fully-immersive exhibit SNOWDAY, to photos with Santa that embrace technology in magical ways, Baymo has a knack for creating unique holiday guest experiences. Join Trademark’s Stephany Ruiz, Senior Director of Guest Services & Experience, and Chuck Steelman, VP of Experience, as they...
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Capital Markets in 2022 with JLL's Mark Gibson
Terry sits down with Mark Gibson, CEO of JLL Capital Markets Americas, for their annual discussion on the state of capital markets today and impacts on commercial real estate. • Changes in debt/equity financing trends • Interest rate predictions and…
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DFW CRE with Venture Commercial's Mike Geisler (Part 2)
In Part 2 of Terry’s discussion with Venture Commercial’s Mike Geisler, hear how mixed-use and real estate is evolving, trends in the DFW market and advice for professionals just starting out. Plus, Mike talks about Venturetainment - Venture Commercial’s answer to consumer’s pent-up demand for…
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DFW CRE with Venture Commercial's Mike Geisler (Part 1)
Mike Geisler started Venture Commercial Real Estate “to be totally service oriented towards our clients.” With a pay it forward mentality and non-competitive office environment he’s built a trusted brokerage firm that has worked on prominent projects including Dallas’ Plaza at Preston Center and...
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State of The Industry with Dr. Peter Linneman (Part 2)
In Part 2 of our discussion, dive further into the current economic cycle with Dr. Peter Linneman, real estate economist and principal of Linneman Associates. Peter and Terry explore the future of shopping centers, how midterm election results could impact inflation and legislation, and what…
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State of The Industry with Dr. Peter Linneman (Part 1)
Dr. Peter Linneman, real estate economist and principal of Linneman Associates, returns for his bi-annual discussion with Terry on the current economic cycle and what makes it unique from others. Hear his prediction on if we’re approaching a recession, and key risks and opportunities in…
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The Genesis of M2G Ventures with Co-Founder Susan Gruppi (Part 2)
In the second part of our conversation, M2G Ventures Co-President Susan Gruppi discusses how her commercial real estate company leans into public art. She also talks about her mental health advocacy with UT Southwestern and advice to future women entrepreneurs. Stay tuned until the end when Susan...
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The Genesis of M2G Ventures with Co-Founder Susan Gruppi
How a real estate enthusiast went from founding a college real estate club to co-founding one of DFW's hottest real estate companies, M2G Ventures. Susan Gruppi sits down with Terry Montesi and Trademark's Senior VP of Property Management, Maranda Auzenne to talk lessons learned as a founder, her...
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Personalizing CRE: A Conversation with Mike Ablon of PegasusAblon (Part 2)
Listen to the second part of our conversation with Mike Ablon, Founding Partner of PegasusAblon, as he and Terry discuss the future of mixed-use and multifamily. Mike shares how the challenges of inflation and e-commerce can be met on the national level and how well Dallas will fare. The two also...
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Personalizing CRE: A Conversation with Mike Ablon of PegasusAblon (Part 1)
Mike Ablon, founding partner of PegasusAblon, joins Terry to share his insights into developing notable projects like the Dallas Design District using personalization and profiling. Plus, they discuss trends in mixed-use and multifamily real estate and if rental demand will slow down. Leaning In…
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From Clicks to Bricks with Catch Co.'s Teeg Stouffer (Part 2)
Laura and David are back with Teeg, Catch Co.’s Director of Retail Experience, to continue their talk about experiential retail. Teeg drops insights into how they’re innovating traditional retail with untraditional shopper experiences, like truly hands-on shopping and appearances from their funny...
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From Clicks to Bricks with Catch Co.'s Teeg Stouffer
Anglers have been hooked on fishing and outdoor brand Catch Co. since starting their Mystery Tackle Box subscription program, and rescuing people from the indoors. The latest way Catch Co. is reeling in stronger customer relationships? Brick and mortar stores. Trademark’s Laura Hale, Director of...
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Placemaking in The Built Environment with Torti Gallas’ Brandon Diamond (Part 2)
Terry and Cassie wrap up their conversation with Brandon Diamond on the benefits of a mixed-use place, like its ability to increase space premiums by 30%. Plus, hear why some existing single-uses should be transformed into a mixed-use site, and how developers can prepare for a future with less...
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Placemaking in The Built Environment with Torti Gallas' Brandon Diamond (Part 1)
How can you create memorable customer experiences that drive retention and revenue? Designing an authentic sense of place is key. In this episode, Terry Montesi is joined by Brandon Diamond, Partner and Executive Director of planning and architectural firm Torti Gallas + Partners and Cassie King,...
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Leaning In is a podcast exploring the future of mixed-use real estate. Trademark Property Company CEO Terry Montesi, and other executives, speak with experts from various backgrounds and areas to discuss mixed-use, multifamily, and brick-and-mortar retail, and what it looks like to lean into it while others are leaning out.For more information about Trademark, visit www.trademarkproperty.com
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