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Legacy Code Rocks
by M. Scott Ford and Ray Myers
Legacy Code Rocks explores the world of modernizing existing software applications. Hosts M. Scott Ford and Ray Myers are out to change the way you think about legacy code. If you're like a lot of people, when you hear the words "legacy code" it conjures up images of big mainframes and archaic punch card machines. While that's true — it only tells a small part of the story. The truth is, the code you leave behind is your legacy, so let's make it a good one.
Episodes
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Innovation in Legacy with Dave Thomas
There are three groups of people around every legacy system - those who are stuck with it, those who don't want to be with it, and those who love it and see its value. How do we reconcile these three opinions and rewrite legacy code without completely replacing it? Today we talk with Dave Thomas....
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Code Reviews with Chelsea Troy
One of the reasons why it is difficult to work with legacy code is the lack of preserving the contextual reasons for past coding choices. Today we talk with Chelsea Troy, a Machine Learning Team Lead at Mozilla and a computer science lecturer at the University of Chicago. She tells us about the...
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Modernizing Code with Edward Hieatt
Mending code while it is running is risky. One wrong move and a small change can bring the entire system to a halt. Today we talk with Edward Hieatt, Chief Customer Officer at Mechanical Orchard, a GenAI native company that modernizes critical legacy applications without disrupting what they are...
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Mending Code with AI with Ray Myers
AI proves to be great at writing new code, but what are its capabilities when it comes to mending the old one? Today we talk with Ray Myers, a legacy code expert and sceptical enthusiast for AI. With 16 years of software engineering experience, he focuses on collective lessons learned to improve...
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Quality-Check of External Dependencies with Feross Aboukhadijeh
Many of the largest companies rely on third-party code to run critical parts of their software. However, there's often little focus on ensuring the quality of these external dependencies. Today we speak with Feross Aboukhadijeh, CEO and founder of Socket, a developer-first security platform.…
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From Vintage Computers to Test Automation with Sophia McKeever
How do the love for vintage computers and test automation come together? Can one inspire another and how? Today we talk with Sophia Mckeever, a software development engineer at Pokemon Company International, a test automation framework architect, and a computer historian. She tells us what led…
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Kubescape with Shauli Rozen
In Kubernetes, security is a joint effort between security engineers and DevOps. A perfect tool to bring these two together is Kubescape, an open-source Kubernetes security project. Today, we talk with Shauli Rozen, the CEO of ARMO, the company behind Kubescape. Shauli has more than fifteen years...
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Reviewing Logs with Joe Gross
Reviewing logs for security threats and operational functions can be a cumbersome task. Attention is a finite resource, and it is easy to miss something when faced with megabytes of data. Today, we talk with Joe Gross, the Director of Solutions Engineering at Graylog, a leading centralized log...
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Managing Security Services with Scott McCrady
Cyber security is not a core activity of most software development companies. It is an outsourced activity that simply has to be done so that we can deploy our core services. Today, we talk with Scott McCrady, CEO of SolCyber Managed Security Services and an accomplished international executive...
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Developer Experience with Ramiro Berrelleza
How to set up developers for success? For the longest time, companies left developers to their own devices to figure out the workflows and tools they will be using. As the teams grew, so did their problems due to the lack of established procedures and good practices. Today, we talk with Ramiro...
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Sustainable Opensource with Cory O'Donel
Back in August 2023, HashiCorp announced that after nine years of Terraform being open source under the MPL license, they were switching it to a non-open source BSL license. This sent shockwaves through the software development community. Today we talk with Cory O'Daniel, a CEO and co-founder of...
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Software Bills of Behavior with Andrew Hendela
Simply knowing what is in your software is not any guarantee of safety. We need to know what that software does versus what we expect it to do. We need to know its rules of behavior. Today, we talk with Andrew Hendela, a founder of Karambit.ai, a company dedicated to automatically detecting…
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Socio-Political Implications of Legacy Code with Amy Newell
In the age of rising AI, we cannot neglect the topic of the social and political consequences of the code we leave behind. Today, we talk with Amy Newell, a 24-year veteran of the tech industry and an avid activist in issues spanning from local politics to tech. Amy discusses how to engage with...
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Automatic Refactoring with Jonathan Schneider
Automating refactoring and code transformation is a fascinating and efficient way to eliminate technical debt. Today, we talk with Jonathan Schneider, a Co-Founder and CEO of Moderne, Inc., and a former senior Software Engineer at Netflix, where he created Netflix Rewrite - a large-scale…
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Disruptive Thinking with Lance James
Imagine if you could counter ransomware by exploiting it to create a backup of your attacked data for you. Now, that would be disruptive! Today, we talk with Lance James. James is an experienced cybersecurity specialist with 25 years of experience in the field. Building on his programming…
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From Monolith to Understanding with Nelida Velazquez
Going from monolith to microservices is one of the most popular topics in software engineering. But jumping the boat without understanding why can be a dangerous (and expensive) adventure. Today we talk with Nelida Velazquez. Nelida is a senior software engineer at Cobalt, a cyber security…
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The Old New Thing with Raymond Chen
Microsoft invited the Legacy Code Rocks team to attend Microsoft Build Conference and gave us access to the studio on the third floor of the Seattle Convention Center. In this episode, we talk with Raymond Chen, a senior software engineer at Microsoft. Raymond has been involved in the evolution…
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Playwright with Debbie O'Brien and Max Schmitt
Microsoft invited the Legacy Code Rocks team to attend Microsoft Build Conference and gave us access to the studio on the third floor of the Seattle Convention Center. In this episode, we talk with Debbie O'Brien and Max Schmitt, both part of the Microsoft Playwright team.. Playwright is a tool...
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Windows Terminal with Kayla Cinnamon
Microsoft invited the Legacy Code Rocks team to attend Microsoft Build Conference and gave us access to the studio on the third floor of the Seattle Convention Center. In this episode, we talk with Kayla Cinnamon, the first of the three guests we had an opportunity to chat with at the Conference....
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Passwordless Cyber Security with Justin Richer
How many of your passwords do you actually know? Now, how many of those passwords are already on the black web? We are living in a fascinating age of transition from personalised passwords dependent on text inputs and our memory to more advanced access solutions. To help us navigate this…
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Servicing Technical Debt with Dave Mangot
There is some disconnect between business people and engineers when talking about technical debt. While engineers understand the metaphor as a credit card debt that has to be paid off entirely and as soon as possible, business people see it more as a mortgage paid in small installments over a…
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Code Review with Michaela Greiler
How to ensure that your code review practices are not just an expensive bottleneck in your team's productivity but its ultimate superpower? Today we talk with Michaela Greiler, a Head of Research at DX and the owner of a consultancy and training company, Awesome Code Reviews, focused on helping...
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Carrying Cost with Avdi Grimm
What does it mean to build a cost-free feature in the software, and are cost-free features even possible? Today we talk with Avdi Grimm. Avdi is a software developer with more than twenty years of experience. During his career, Avdi worked on everything from aerospace embedded systems to…
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Process Improvement with Stefanni Brasil
Every once in a while, it is wise to stop for a second and think about why we do things in a specific way and whether we need to change something. This is where rethinking processes kick in. Today we talk with Stefanni Brasil, a co-founder of hexdevs, a senior developer at Thoughtbot, and a core...
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Building Durable Software with Ashu Chatterji
There is an eternal dilemma among software developers - should we try our best to predict the future and build it into our code, or should we just plan for frequent iterations? Today we talk with Ashu Chatterji, CEO of Caravel Labs and software engineer with 3+ decades of industry experience,...
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Software Design with John Ousterhout
To build anew or to rebuild? Many developers have a knee-jerk reaction to start building existing software systems from scratch because they think that is the easiest way forward. Today, we talk with John Ousterhout. John is the Bosack Lerner Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University....
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Elm, Roc, and Rust with Richard Feldman
Working on legacy code is never easy, but some programming languages make it more enjoyable. Today, we talk with Richard Feldman, the creator of the Roc programming language, the author of Elm in Action, and the creator of the Frontend Masters courses Introduction to Elm and Introduction to Rust....
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Refactoring in Product Teams with Andreas Creten
Product teams are scared of technical debt and refactoring. They press on to make something new, not to question what they have already created. However, the urgency to deliver new products carries the risk of technical debt. Today, we talk with Andreas Creten, a software engineer turned CTO....
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STEM and Cooking with Kimberly Fox
How can cooking help you have a better team? Today, we talk with Kimberly Fox. Kimberly leads virtual and in-person cooking classes and is a recipe developer and writer for her blog, From Market to Table. Building on more than ten years of experience working in STEM and witnessing gender...
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Python with Michael Kennedy
In this episode, we are talking with Michael Kennedy, Python expert and the founder and host of two podcasts - Talk Python To Me and Python Bytes. He also runs Talk Python Training which provides online courses for Python developers. Michael tells us about the reception of Python version changes...
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Software Security with Rob Dickinson
Software security has become one of the most important topics affecting the lives of millions of people. Today we talk with Rob Dickinson, a co-founder, and CTO of Resurface Labs, a data-driven API security solution. He tells us how can security be woven into the culture of a software team, how…
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Evolving Software with João Rosa
We design software within a particular context. When that context changes, so should the software. But change is often difficult. Today we talk with João Rosa, an independent consultant focused on helping organizations to make strategic decisions when building software. João is one of the authors...
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Legacy JavaScript with David Neal
If you try to fix broken things in JavaScript, you will probably break the Internet because the entire Internet expects those "mistakes" to be there. Today we talk with David Neal, a family man, geek, musician, illustrator, international speaker, software developer, and Microsoft MVP. David…
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Observability with Hunter Madison
Legacy becomes legacy only when the memory of how the system works is gone. This is where observability kicks in. Today we talk with Hunter Madison. Hunter is the cloud architect for Instana, an observability platform for IBM. He has a decade of software development experience covering everything...
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Open-Source Software with Naomi Ceder
The world as we know it wouldn't exist without open-source software. We have learned to rely and depend on these free products that magically get maintained and updated by communities of volunteers. In our over commercialized world, the very plausibility of projects like Linux, Android, and…
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Agile Practices in Legacy Code Mending with Michael Toppa
Agile has become the mainstream in software engineering, and agile principles should feel natural to legacy code menders. Today we talk with Michael Toppa, the Senior Engineering manager at FastRuby.io. Michael has been a developer, product owner, and engineering director for over 25 years. He…
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Rector with Matthias Noback
Imagine if you could refactor legacy code with a single CLI command? Well, you can, at least if you are working with PHP. Today we talk with Matthias Noback, a long-time web developer and the author of several programming books, including Rector - The Power of Automated Refactoring, which he...
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From Java to Kotlin with Duncan McGregor and Nat Pryce
There is a lot of buzz around Kotlin, a new Java-based programming language that many think might eventually replace Java. But is all this talk justified, and are the predictions of replacement realistic? Today we talk with Duncan McGregor and Nat Pryce, the authors of Java to Kotlin. They reveal...
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Code Testing With Melanie Frank
We all want our code to be stable and resilient to future challenges. But we need to strike the right balance between testing our systems and the cost of failure. This is much harder to achieve than it sounds. Today we talk with Melanie Frank, Managing Vice-President of Cyber Engineering at…
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Checks and Balances in Coding with Samuel Taggart
We all strive to write an ideal code - easily readable, functional, and clean. We use many tools to achieve this. However, we often forget why we need our code to be tidy. Today we are talking with Samuel Taggart, President of GDevCon N.A. and the owner of SAS Workshops. Sam is a natural teacher,...
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Code Thesaurus with Sarah Withee
Imagine if you could compare concepts side-by-side between a programming language you know and one you don't. Well, now you can! Today we talk with Sarah Withee, a polyglot software engineer, international tech speaker, and robot tinkerer. Sarah is also the author of Code Thesaurus, the polyglot...
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Reading Code with Felienne Hermans
Coders spend most of their time reading rather than writing code. Yet, when you look at the undergraduate programs, boot camps, and conferences, everything seems to be dedicated to code production. Today we talk with Felienne Hermans. Felienne is an associate professor at the Leiden Institute of...
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Cyber Security and Personal Wellness with Nyota Gordon
Some of the biggest risks for cyber security frameworks come from employees meant to maintain them. The reason for that is simple, and it couldn't be more human - people who don't feel well don't perform well. Today we talk with Nyota Gordon, the founder, developer, and all-around do-gooder at...
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Moving Beyond Agile with Prabhjot Singh
Agile is all about the speed of iteration and execution. One of the things that often gets neglected is the business impact of the code we are shipping. Today we talk with Prabhjot Singh, serial entrepreneur and the president and CEO of Pyze. He tells us how taking time to better understand the...
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Self-Compassion with Clare Sudbery
We frequently discuss compassion, empathy, and kindness on this podcast. What we rarely focus on, however, is being kind and compassionate to ourselves. Today we talk with Clare Sudbery. Clare is a lead engineer at Made Tech, and she is the host of the Making Tech Better podcast. Clare tells why…
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System Resiliency with Briana Augenreich
Everyone wants their software system to be resilient - to continue carrying out its mission-critical tasks in the face of disruption or adversity. But resiliency has its cost, and not just in a material sense. With resiliency, your system becomes more complex and harder to maintain. That is why…
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Managing Maintenance Teams with Tramaine Darby
We all get excited about that new, shiny code, but more often than not, our company can live without it. On the other hand, some old and boring lines of code laying around are usually the backbone of our entire business system. And while inventors tend to get all the praise, those who keep the...
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Betterer with Craig Spence
Making widespread changes to a codebase can be hard! Your team starts a long-lived branch that is difficult to maintain and often impossible to merge; you and your team-mates agree to improve the code slowly over time, but you all forget this agreement, and the improvement never happens. But what...
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Kubernetes with James Sturtevant
Kubernetes with James Sturtevant As applications grow to span multiple containers deployed across multiple servers, operating them becomes more complex. While it is possible to maintain these growing applications manually, most will reach out to an orchestrator to help them with the tasks. As...
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Collaborating with Empathy with Liz Acosta
The power of software is enormous, but the code can only be as good as the humans who write it. Despite popular belief, "being good" has nothing to do with character predisposition. It is a product of an intentional effort to nurture care and compassion. Today we talk with Liz Acosta, a software...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Legacy Code Rocks explores the world of modernizing existing software applications. Hosts M. Scott Ford and Ray Myers are out to change the way you think about legacy code. If you're like a lot of people, when you hear the words "legacy code" it conjures up images of big mainframes and archaic punch card machines. While that's true — it only tells a small part of the story. The truth is, the code you leave behind is your legacy, so let's make it a good one.
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Legacy Code Rocks explores the world of modernizing existing software applications. Hosts M. Scott Ford and Ray Myers are out to change the way you think about legacy code. If you're like a lot of people, when you hear the words "legacy code" it conjures up images of big mainframes and archaic...
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