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Making Conversation
by Making Co.
Making Conversation is where creativity meets real talk. We’re all about celebrating the makers, fiber artists, and creatives who bring their unique stories to the table—no matter the medium. From knitting to crocheting to spinning, each episode dives into the passions, challenges, and journeys that drive their creative work. We get to know the people behind the projects, exploring the funny, heartfelt, and inspiring moments you won’t find just scrolling through their social media. Along the way, we’ll chat about the things that matter—diversity, inclusion, and the power of community in the making world. Grab your WIP, tune in, and get ready for some good conversations with amazing people!
Episodes
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A knitwear designer & 🧶 dyer walk into their own yarn shop - ōSHən Knits & Fibres w/ Vanessa Fleming
Hey there, fiber friends! This week on Making Conversation, I’m bringing you a chat that is full of color, creativity, and coastal charm. I sat down with Vanessa Fleming, the brilliant mind behind ōSHən Knits & Fibres, a one-of-a-kind yarn shop in Astoria, Oregon. Vanessa is a marine...
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Adapting in an evolving 🌎 of craft Part 2 w/ Britt Garber, Bea Bonanno and Jen Joyce, ep. 170
In this special episode of Making Conversation—originally recorded and posted on our YouTube channel in late 2024—host Jen welcomes two brilliant voices in the fiber arts world: Brit of KnotBadBrit and Bea of WoolDreamers. This episode is all about building inclusive, authentic community within…
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Snacks for makers + ways to cope with *gestures around* w/ Andreya Nightingale & Jen Joyce, ep. 169
🌟 This episode was originally published on the Making Conversation YouTube channel on Nov 23, 2024. 🌟 Makers need snacks! We also need to take care of ourselves because if we do not, how will we take care of others? That part is so VERY important, especially right now. I popped into my kitchen…
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Sacred Sheep 2024 - a celebration of the fiber art community and makers, ep. 168
I jumped in the car and headed to Portland for Sacred Sheep—a vibrant maker festival brought to you by the team at Ritual Dyes! If you love yarn, fiber arts, pottery, handmade jewelry, inspiring classes, and creative community, this festival is for you. In this episode of Making Conversation, I...
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Ritual Dyes + Sacred Sheep 2024 (+ sneak peeks 👀) w/ Rachel Bratcher & Jen Joyce, ep. 167
In this special episode, I hit the road to Portland, OR, to sit down with Rachel, the creative mind behind Ritual Dyes and founder of Sacred Sheep, a festival dedicated to makers, especially those passionate about the fiber arts. From discovering her love for knitting and hand-dyeing yarn to the...
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Addressing Ableism in the Maker Community, ep. 166 w/ Beth Gorishek, Kira Dulaney, and Jen Joyce
The world of crafting and making should be a space where everyone feels welcome and empowered. However, there are barriers—both visible and invisible—that can exclude or marginalize makers with disabilities. In this episode I am joined by the super fabulous Beth Gorishek, The Adaptive Knitter &...
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Cashmere goats & a hand knit wedding dress, ep. 165 w/ Amy Swanson, Rachel Carleton, and Jen Joyce
We're back with some wonderful Fall episodes to celebrate hunkering down with your current favorite WIP and enjoying an episode of the Making Conversation podcast. ;) Just a heads up, this episode is VERY visual. If you prefer to watch, pop over to our YouTube channel. xoxo In this episode, I am…
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Flock Fiber Festival + La Mercerie - Special spaces for makers w/ Jess Povenmire & Jen Joyce, ep 164
To know Jess is to love Jess and Jess' love of this special fiber arts community is very evident in everything she does. From in her yarn shop on Bainbridge Island, WA to Flock Fiber Festival, a yarn show in Seattle, WA, celebrating a love of all things wool, the fibers arts community is so very...
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Growing into your purpose—Meet crochet artist & Making engineer Abi Santiago w/ Ashley Yousling, ep. 163
The universe definitely brought this fabulous human to Making. Ashley chats with our crochet-loving engineer all about her journey in craft, her path to leadership and computer sciences, and how we were so lucky to have Abi join the team. To know Abi is to love Abi! Grab your WIP and hit play. :)...
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Releasing self-assigned boundaries of creativity w/ Emily Botelho & Jen Joyce, Ep. 162
Award winning embroidery artist, mother, teacher, author, and all around lovely human! If you don't know of Emily Botelho aka Salt Stitches, you're in for a treat! (If you do, you are too!) Emily joins Jen and not only do they chat about her beautiful art, how her favorite places and values come...
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A Making update + some maker inspiration & musings on fear w/ Ashley Yousling & Jen Joyce, Ep. 161
Ashley and Jen share some really exciting features that are coming to Making VERY SOON. We kick off a new segment where we will share business and/or makers in our community that help spread our values and Ashley dives into the topic of fear and decision-making. Grab your WIP, your favorite…
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Love is in the Making w/ Catherine Clark of Brooklyn General Store & Jen Joyce, Ep. 160
Hello, makers! Super excited to bring you this episode with our pal, Catherine. Just a heads up, there are parts of this episode that are a little more visual as we give a shop tour. Click to watch instead! Brooklyn General Store has been the go-to place for crafty supplies of all kinds for NYC...
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Sheep heroes, lamb gangs, and a very, very good book w/ Jane Cooper and Jen Joyce, Ep. 159
Author Jane Cooper joins us to talk all about her book, The Lost Flock: Rare Wool, Wild Isles and One Woman’s Journey to Save Scotland’s Original Sheep. Jane and Jen chat about why the Orkney Boreray sheep are so very special, Jane's maker journey, lambs...lots of lambs, and what it's like…
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Meet & Greets New York City Edition Pt. 3 | Brooklyn General Store & VKL 2024 w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 158
In the final episode of this series, we get to hear from a few more makers that we chatted with during our last visit to NYC! Get to know some very special humans that we invited to join us for our Brooklyn General Store booth Meet and Greets at Vogue Knitting Live and also from our special maker...
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Meet & Greets New York City Edition Pt. 2 | Brooklyn General Store & VKL 2024 w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 157
We're continuing our Making Meet and Greets from NYC with crafty friends, old and new! The lovely Catherine of Brooklyn General Store and Aimée of La Bien Aimée asked us to bring a bit of our Meet and Greets to their 2024 Vogue Knitting Live booth and we also co-hosted a maker meet-up at Brooklyn...
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Meet & Greets New York City Edition Pt. 1 | Brooklyn General Store & VKL 2024 w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 156
In this episode of the podcast, we’re taking it back to New York City! If you’ve been following along for a while you know that we’ve been visiting events around the world, collecting and then sharing important stories. (Mostly fiber arts related but we want to expand that. Hey other maker…
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How to adapt to an evolving world of fiber art and craft w/ with Jonna Helin, Aimée Gille, Ashley Yousling, Joji Locatelli, and Jen Joyce, Ep. 155
During Vogue Knitting Live 2024, Jen took the stage with big names in the fiber arts and maker industry to talk about how we can adapt to the ever evolving world of craft-what has changed, where the opportunity is, and advice on what to do when things are challenging. Our Panelists Jonna Hietala…
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How to enhance your making | Get to know Liza Laird, author of Yoga of Yarn w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 154
Liza Laird is a fiber artist, human mom, dog mom, cancer survivor and author of Yoga of Yarn, a knitter’s guidebook to self discovery. (Don't worry dear maker! The book is for makers of all kinds. We chat about that too!) We journey through Liza's life--deciding to leave the corporate world to...
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All about pricing for makers w/ Quayln Stark, Brittany Garber, Terry Streetman & Jen Joyce. Ep. 153
"How do I price my makes?" "How do I price my services?" "As a maker that does not sell...how can I help change perceptions so my community can get paid what they're worth?" "How do you price handmade items?" Let's talk pricing. Out with the gatekeeping. Patterns, services, finished goods, etc....
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Barcelona Knits 2023: Meet the artists and vendors w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 152
In this podcast episode, we're heading back to Barcelona Knits in…you guessed it…Barcelona, Spain! Get to know some of the vendors, artists, and vloggers who all share the love of all things fiber art, yarn, knitting, crochet, cross stitch, and more! This is a special group of people, dear…
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Sacred Sheep 2023 - Making Meet and Greets with vendors and artists, ep. 151
In this podcast episode, we're heading back to the Sacred Sheep Fiber Festival in Portland, Oregon! Get to know some of the vendors, artists, and vloggers who all share the love of the act of making. The full meet and greet videos are coming soon, so make sure you are subscribed. :)...
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Storytelling with Ashley & Jen: starting with community, ep. 150
Ashley and Jen come together to share stories of their beginnings in the tech industry and how they discovered their passion for building authentic community with Making. 🌟 Support the Podcast🌟 🔔 Subscribe on YouTube – youtube.com/@making_co ☕ Buy me a coffee on Ko-fi –...
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Tips from a Chef: Gathering w/ loved ones, good food, and how the proper prep can lead to (little to) no stress w/ Chef Andreya Nightingale and Jen Joyce
Chef Andreya is back to share so much amazing information about how to host a holiday party without the stress. She walks us through the planning stages that she has perfected as a chef, along with many valuable tips she has picked up over her amazing career. But what Chef Andreya really wants to...
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LIVE at Barcelona Knits 2023 w/ Aimée Gille of La Bien Aimée and Jen Joyce
Jen and Val took Making on the road to Barcelona Knits this past weekend. It was a journey that further solidified our belief in the power of local unity, connection, and creativity. The vibrant sense of togetherness at Barcelona Knits is only magnified by our interview with Aimée Gille of La…
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Setup at Sacred Sheep 2023: Behind the Scenes w/ vendors and artists! w/ Jen Joyce
We got a sneak peek of Sacred Sheep's setup the night before the inaugural festival and were honored to chat with these amazing vendors and artists! Hannah Thiessen Junebug and Darlin' Spincycle Yarns Three Fates Yarn Handmade Renee The Wandering Flock PortFiber Ritual Dyes The first year of the...
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building meaningful community by being authentically you + appreciation vs appropriation w/ Terrance Williams + Jen Joyce
Y'all are in for a treat. Terrance of Terrance Williams Designs joins Jen for an episode full of big laughs. :) Terrance shares his maker journey that was sparked by a love of fashion, which grew into learning how garments are made and the art of sewing, which led to launching his business! He…
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Size Inclusivity in the maker space: a (frustrating) history of sizing, where to find size inclusive patterns, and how designers can be size inclusive in the year of our Beyonce 2023 and beyond w/ Autumn Eden-Goodman & Jen Joyce
Autumn is out here doin' the important work! She joins Jen to chat all about size inclusivity in the maker space. We kick it off with the (not-surprisingly frustrating) history of sizing because if we want to change the world, we must know where we came from. Autumn tells us all about her passion...
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what is happening w/ Making? Time for a BIG update! w/ Ashley Yousling & Jen Joyce
Ashley joins Jen to share all about what's happening with Making. We go pretty deep, get very real, and share honestly. A lot has happened this year...but also not (tbh), and we'll talk allllll about it. BUT MOST EXCITING: we will dive into what's next! 🥳 If you are a designer, sell finished...
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shifting the dialogue of "art" vs "craft" with Hannah Austin and Jen Joyce
The oh-so-lovely Hannah Austin of Needle OR Thread joins Jen to discuss the good ol' topic of “fine art vs craft” and how the community is shifting the dialogue and understanding while touching on how art forms/crafts typically labeled as "female" have usually been considered inferior to those...
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the importance of putting yourself first, aggressive optimism, and the audacity of men (especially the man who invented the knitting machine) w/ Tina Tse and Jen Joyce
Tina Tse joins Jen for episode 141! Tina tells us what it's like to go from industrial knitting machine operator by day to knitwear designer by night. Jen covers the history of the knitting machine, which...is comical? Yeah...that. They also dive into some reasons why they are both so very…
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embracing "go with the flow", the importance of representation, and a brief history of Amigurumi w/ Whitney Marie Anderson, Jen Joyce + special guest: Renee ;)
The fabulous Whitney Marie Anderson joins Jen for Ep. 140! They cover how Whit learned to crochet and knit (a new one for this podcast!), going with the flow while also knowing your worth, the importance of representation, and then they dive into a brief history of Amigurumi, which is how Whit...
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a crafty kickoff to spooky season: cryptids, yarn inspired by said cryptids, and all things WEIRD Ohio with Kelley Freeman of Dye Mad Yarns and Jen Joyce
SPOOKY SEASON IS HERE, Y'ALL and Kelley (owner and dyer at Dye Mad Yarns) joined Jen for episode 139. All things Dye Mad Yarns is inspired by all things weird Ohio, which includes cryptids! So let's kick off this blessed season of spooky together. Grab your project and buckle in! Prefer to watch...
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stitch 'n spy: unraveling the history of knitting spies w/ Marina Scott & Jen Joyce
Join us as we dive into the most twisted tales of espionage ever spun – literally! In this episode, Marina and Jen discuss the history and stories of spies who used stitches, notions, and needles to relay top-secret messages during wartime with their knitting. They also shout out a few awesome...
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the importance of stretching & strengthening, exercises for makers (from a licensed physical therapist), and the two carpal tunnels w/ Mariah Stanford and Jen Joyce
Mariah Stanford (licensed physical therapist, maker, and all-around lovely human) joins Jen to chat about the importance of keeping our bodies happy so we can craft FOREVER!!! She goes over things to look out for, movements and exercises to help keep aches and pains away, etc! No matter your...
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Live-ish @ Flock Fiber Festival - "When did you become a maker?" pt. 3
Pt 3 of our series that features Flock Fiber Festival meet & greet sneak peeks and the best wifi that Seattle's Parks department has to offer (lol) is here! This was our 1st festival partnership in this capacity. Meeting everyone and collecting their inspiring stories was so special, but we…
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Live-ish @ Flock Fiber Festival - "When did you become a maker?" pt. 2
We're back with more super fun vendor meet & greet sneak peeks from Flock Fiber Festival, featuring the best wifi that Seattle's Parks department has to offer. 🤣 ICYMI-We sat down with some of the vendors and recorded interviews. The goal was to bring a little Flock to those who could not make…
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Live-ish @ Flock Fiber Festival - "When did you become a maker?" pt. 1
As you might have heard, Flock Fiber Festival's inaugural weekend went off without a dropped stitch. ;) What an energy in that place. Just a lovely fiber festival in an old airplane hanger filled with an incredible community of makers and the best wifi that Seattle's Parks department can provide....
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Flock Fiber Festival, creating a fiber arts festival that's focused on the small businesses & not a big corporation + how Making is bringing a little Flock to you! w/ Jessica Povenmire & Jen Joyce
Jen sits down with the absolutely wonderful human, owner of La Mercerie, and organizer of the Flock Fiber Festival, Jessica Povenmire. They chat about opening a yarn shop, where La Mercerie started, and where it's going next. They then dive into all things Flock Fiber Festival: why Jessica…
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thrifting, upcycling, and mending as tangible resistance w/ Charlotte Durnford-Dionne, Pooja Devnani and Jen Joyce
In this episode, we touch on why thrifting, upcycling, and mending are so important. Charlotte and Pooja then give lots of great tips and tricks for those who want to do more in this space to show care to Mother Earth. (But also some great info for those who have been in this space for years!) 🌟...
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creativity, tiny humans, and the history of friendship bracelets (aka the cutest episode ever) w/ Carson Zeable, Jen Joyce, and friends!
We're back from a mini summer break with an important message! This episode is a celebration of what creativity means to tiny humans. A way to remind us as adults that when we create, it's not about the likes or the pressure to create x amount of new things per year, and it’s not about the...
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Ep. 130 // woodworking, supporting your community, and how it can be rough in the cheese-less streets w/ Terry Streetman & Jen Joyce
Our friend Terry of Peregrine Woodshop joins us this week! Jen and Terry chat all about why he connected with woodworking, the importance of being loud and proud (personally and professionally) about your values, and the best practices of how to choose those organizations to support. Finally, a...
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Ep. 129 // machines can't crochet, everyone can be good at marketing, and sometimes you gotta pivot! w/ Callie Hawley & Jen Joyce
The queen of the curse pillows, Callie is here so let's talk marketing! From newsletters to off-social marketing ideas, we do our best to drop as much knowledge as possible in this one episode. Combined we have over 25 years of marketing experience and Callie also owns her own crafting business…
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Ep. 128 // mental health & the beautiful benefits of the act of making w/ Tamanna Rahman & Jen Joyce
Tamanna joins Jen on the podcast this week to talk about the beautiful moments that can occur when the act of making is a part of our mental health toolbox. They get vulnerable and share their own journeys, cover how making can be beneficial for your mental health, and then Tamanna leads us in a...
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Ep. 127 // food as celebration (let's make something delicious together!), food accessibility, and also a really good reminder to...just start w/ Andreya Nightingale & Jen Joyce
Y'all...this episode is delish! Jen was joined by the wonderful Chef Andreya Nightingale and they make a great spread that you can make along with us to practice for your next gathering with family, friends, or your next making circle. (...Or just eat it as you listen, because it can also be the...
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Ep. 126 // BRIGHT Collective BTS w/ Isaiah Moses & Sharon Chandler Correnty
We've got a special episode today! These oh-so-very wonderful interviews you are about to hear specifically connect to this month's BRIGHT Collective member thank you e-zine. BRIGHT Collective is like our version of Patreon. Members support what we do every month-building the Making app, creating...
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Ep. 125 // a conversation about art, AI, using technology for good, and a special manifestation involving Carly Rae Jepsen w/ Lars Laing-Peterson & Jen Joyce
Jen's partner Lars joins her in this episode where they have a discussion about AI and art. Coming from the perspective of two creatives, they discuss the Victorian Industrial Revolution, the Beastie Boy's album Paul's Boutique, and technology's typical path in a capitalistic society. This all…
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Ep. 124 // tattoos are art and art is making. A brief history and a celebration of very amazing (non-male) tattoo artists! w/ Marina Scott & Jen Joyce
Marina is back! This episode is all about tattoo art and talented tattoo artists. They also cover what has inspired them in the Making app, and what Marina and Jen are working on, including a little gardening chat! 🌱 Featured tattoo artists: -Apo Whang-od, @apowhangod -Amanda, @bestoflvck…
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Ep. 123 // fiber arts & magic, crafty paranormal tales, a ghost snake, and wait...is this audio haunted? w/ Quayln Stark & Jen Joyce
Quayln Stark joins Jen this week! Quayln discusses fiber arts and magic and how it has been connected throughout time and Jen tells the tales from haunted art museums, and also ghost stories from our very own Making community. But wait..is that another guest on the podcast that decided to insert...
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Ep. 122 // sculpture, salons, start-ups, and the confusion of bubble toes w/ Lo Shabino & Jen Joyce
Buckle up, y'all! ;) Jen is joined by the fantastic Lo Shabino! Lo started her creative journey by going to university for sculpture and is now a master stylist, salon owner, educator, and coach. They dive into that part of her life along with career learnings from Lo's perspective as well as...
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Ep. 121 // city foraging and two unexpected journeys that involve flowers w/ Carrie Bostick Hoge & Jen Joyce
Hey, buds! This week on Making Conversation, Jen is joined by Carrie. The theme that poppies up in this episode also blooms throughout this month's BRIGHT Collective e-zine. They cover the ins and outs of city foraging, go on a journey that begins at the intersection of florals in art and…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Making Conversation is where creativity meets real talk. We’re all about celebrating the makers, fiber artists, and creatives who bring their unique stories to the table—no matter the medium. From knitting to crocheting to spinning, each episode dives into the passions, challenges, and journeys that drive their creative work.
We get to know the people behind the projects, exploring the funny, heartfelt, and inspiring moments you won’t find just scrolling through their social media. Along the way, we’ll chat about the things that matter—diversity, inclusion, and the power of community in the making world. Grab your WIP, tune in, and get ready for some good conversations with amazing people!
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