Making It with Alex See

一個人可以同時係藝術家、策展人、藝評人同埋大學導師嗎？ 今集《Making It》請嚟香港當代藝術圈嘅多重宇宙代表阿三 Chan Sai Lok。阿三拒絕被單一身份定義，更討厭被問你畫咩畫因為佢認為每一個詞語背後，都充滿住社會賦予嘅框架。我哋一齊探討咗香港藝術圈點解細得嚟又好大、點解辭工全職做藝術未必最 productive，同埋藝術家應該點樣尋找最適合自己嘅 working mode。同時，阿三亦分享咗點解語言同文字本身就係極具力量嘅藝術媒介。最後，面對如果離開世界會少咗啲咩嘅終極拷問，阿三無比灑脫嘅答案，絕對會令你反思生命嘅重量。如果你想深入了解香港當代藝術嘅真面目、想打破創作上嘅樽頸，或者需要一劑最真實嘅人生哲理，呢集絕對唔可以錯過。IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:The Multi-Hyphenate Artist 多重身份的優勢: 點解阿三堅持同時做創作、策展同寫作，並將佢哋視為一個不可分割嘅整體？Breaking the Frameworks 打破既定框架: 點解藝術家最怕俾人問你畫咩畫？拆解油畫呢個詞彙背後嘅限制。The Reality of HK's Art Scene 香港藝術圈的真相: 圈子雖小，但版圖極大。重新認識充滿活力與重疊性嘅本地藝術生態。Finding Your Working Mode 尋找創作節奏: 辭職做全職藝術家反而無效率？探討最真實嘅創作日常與習慣。Language as an Art Form 文字即藝術: 展覽嘅文字論述與溝通，點解同件藝術品本身一樣咁重要？A Grounded Legacy 生命的反思: 面對生死與遺憾，阿三霸氣又灑脫嘅人生哲學：Nothing is lost.CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: 擁有多重身份的藝術家 阿三03:15 - 打破框架：油畫兩個字背後的限制14:50 - 香港藝術生態：一個細得嚟好大嘅版圖21:30 - 全職做藝術反而無效率？尋找你的 Working Mode27:15 - 文字與論述：語言點樣成為當代藝術嘅核心40:10 - 終極拷問：如果你離開這個世界，世界會少了什麼？QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:藝術嘅時候通常都會問我，三位你畫啲咩畫㗎... 我唔識答㗎... 因為油畫呢個字係好多 framework 喺度嘅。 - Chan Sai Lok香港藝術，嗰個圈子或者參與嘅人呢其實好細，但同時亦都好大... 我哋喺呢一個圈子裏面嘅人，其實各自做緊不同嘅嘢囉。 - Chan Sai Lok（如果有一日你離開呢個世界，世界會少咗啲咩嘢？）Nothing. 冇嘢少到。因為我唔會將自己放到咁大。 - Chan Sai LokABOUT THE GUEST:Chan Sai Lok 阿三 是一位活躍於香港當代藝術圈的藝術家、藝評人、策展人、教育工作者及電台主持。擁有超過二十年經驗的他，作品經常遊走於視覺藝術與文學之間。他擅長以獨特的文字與語言作為創作媒介，並不斷挑戰傳統藝術的框架與定義，致力於推動香港藝術生態的多元發展。ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

木灰點樣可以燒成透明嘅玻璃釉面？大自然嘅鬼斧神工，又會點樣衝擊藝術家嘅創作靈魂？ 今集《Making It》請嚟擁有木工與純藝術背景、熱愛探索物料極限嘅「物料魔法師」——可樂先生 Dave。Dave 帶我哋走入佢嘅創作實驗室，分享佢點樣將大自然（如退潮樹、風化石）嘅靈感轉化為獨特嘅「陶瓷板畫」，突破傳統畫布嘅四方框架。我哋更會大爆最近一齊去景德鎮嘅奇遇記：面對酒店水浸、電單車被水沖走，點解一班陶藝家竟然可以做到心如止水、企喺度 Chill？原來陶瓷呢門藝術，成功率往往只有 70%，由一開始就注定要藝術家學識與「失敗和裂痕」共存！如果你對古法柴燒感到好奇、想知道藝術家點樣回應大自然嘅完美雕塑，或者想學習點樣優雅地面對人生嘅挫敗，Dave 嘅實驗精神絕對會為你帶嚟啟發。IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:The Magic of Materials (物料的化學魔法): 解密「柴燒陶瓷」中，高溫木灰化為自然玻璃釉面的奇妙過程。Beyond the Canvas (突破畫布的限制): 點解 Dave 放棄用塑膠彩同油畫？點樣透過泥板擠壓創造出流動嘅「陶瓷板畫」。Nature as the Ultimate Sculptor (大自然的鬼斧神工): 面對風化石與退潮樹的完美形態，藝術家的存在價值到底喺邊？The Jingdezhen Flood (景德鎮水浸奇遇記): 酒店水浸連車都沖走，點解陶藝家依然能保持極致的「佛系」心態？Embracing Failure (與挫敗共存的哲學): 連最頂級陶瓷廠嘅成功率都只有70%，教會了我們什麼人生道理。The Studio Rat (藝術家的儲物癖): 從街邊撿木頭到機緣巧合下繼承葵芳老師傅的木工工具。CHAPTERS:0:00 Intro: 專注研究物料的魔法師 Dave01:37 柴燒的秘密：木灰變成玻璃釉的化學作用04:12 突破畫布限制：擠壓與流動中的「陶瓷板畫」12:58 葵芳工廈奇遇：繼承退休老師傅的木工工具24:44 大自然的最強雕塑：風化石與退潮樹的啟發34:44 景德鎮水浸事件：陶藝家面對挫敗的「佛系」哲學QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"其實物料的變化，有時都真係同魔術有些相似... 可能我是專注研究物料的藝術家。" Dave"你想想，其實做陶瓷的人，一開始就要保持不穩定性... 訓練了一個跟挫敗有很不同的關係，裂了就裂了。" Dave"作為一個雕塑家，你會覺得，哇我這樣做來做什麼？自然做了這麼厲害的東西，我怎麼回應？藝術家的價值在哪裡？" DaveABOUT THE GUEST:Dave (可樂先生) 是一位駐香港的藝術家，專注於物料研究與跨媒介工藝。擁有純藝術與木工背景的他，近年將創作重心轉向陶瓷，透過泥板的擠壓與混合，打破傳統繪畫的框架，創作出充滿動態的「陶瓷板畫」。他從大自然中汲取深刻靈感，並十分享受窯燒過程中的不確定性與不可控之美。ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries. CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can buying art be more than just decorating an empty wall? In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Giudi, an experienced art advisor who helps collectors navigate the notoriously opaque art market.From working in galleries across the primary and secondary markets, Giudi developed a passion for helping people understand the unique narratives behind each piece. She shares her process of guiding clients—from setting budgets to finding artworks that create the perfect balance and "tension" in a living space, rather than just acting as background decor.Giudi opens up about the scientifically proven benefits of living with art, noting how it can boost endorphins and improve your overall physical and mental health. She explains how art acts as a time capsule for our culture and history, and why interacting with challenging pieces, like heavy ceramics or contrasting styles, sparks essential conversations.We also delve into the unique landscape of Hong Kong, discussing how the city's spatial constraints and distinct micro-communities—ranging from the fast-paced business center to its wild, natural beaches—create a fertile ground for localized creativity and new art forms.If you are an aspiring collector unsure of where to begin, an artist wanting to understand the advisory side of the industry, or someone simply looking to bring more meaning into your living space, Giudi's insights on aesthetics, storytelling, and cultural value are essential listening.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Demystifying the Art Market02:15 - What Does an Art Advisor Actually Do?05:30 - The Decor Trap: Why You Shouldn't Just Buy "Decor"09:45 - The Psychology of Art: Endorphins and Health Benefits14:20 - Curating Exhibitions and Creating "Tension" in a Room18:50 - The Value of Traditional Craft vs. Technology23:10 - Hong Kong's Unique Micro-Communities and Creative Edge28:30 - Advice for Aspiring Artists: Invest in Your SkillsQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"I help people to navigate the free art market, which can be very dark and unclear. So I help give clarity.""Don't buy decor, buy a story. Something that's punchy, but it's very interesting because it tells something.""There has been scientifically proven from different studies that interacting with art... boosts your mind but also your body health, because it releases endorphins."ABOUT THE GUEST:Giudi is an art advisor dedicated to helping both seasoned collectors and first-time buyers navigate the primary and secondary art markets. With a deep appreciation for storytelling, aesthetics, and historical relevance, she guides clients in finding artworks that resonate personally while fostering community and cultural conversation.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can a photograph heal the pain of loss and remind us that we are never alone? In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Jada Poon, a corporate lawyer turned photographer and visual artist. From walking a predictable, highly successful path in law to experiencing a "soul shut down" due to misalignment with her true self, Jada made the courageous leap to pursue art and design. She shares her incredible journey, the backlash she faced, and the profound impact of a single auntie who believed in her enough to buy her first camera.Jada opens up about her recent photography exhibition, "Still with us" (光一直都在), which deeply explores the themes of love, loss, and the journey of grief. She explains how her camera serves as a tool not just for capturing images, but for fostering genuine human connections, offering people a safe space to be seen and heard. We also delve into the unique "compactness" of Hong Kong, discussing how the city's high energy and proximity make it the perfect breeding ground for creative "co-creation".If you are struggling with a career that drains your spirit, dealing with the loss of a loved one, or simply wanting to understand the power of empathetic listening, Jada's story of vulnerability and shared human experience is essential listening.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro: Meeting Jada at the Vietnam Social Exhibition02:56 - Using Photography to Explore Shared Human Experiences04:40 - A Touching Story of Grief: Why Crying is a Gift09:46 - The Career Pivot: Leaving Corporate Law After a "Soul Shut Down"12:28 - The Auntie Who Bought My First Camera24:45 - The Importance of Being Fully Present and Listening33:00 - Hong Kong's Unique Advantage: A Compact City for Co-creation39:36 - Bridging the Gap: Bringing Creative Minds into Corporate SpacesQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"我最怕嘅唔係我日日喺度繼續喊，我最怕係我有一日我唔會喊... 當你唔會喊嘅時候，其實就好似代表你已經忘記咗個份愛。"- Jada Poon"點解好似我個 soul 好似慢慢每一日咁 shut down 緊呢？嗰一種辛苦係 by far worse than 冇得睡覺、冇得食飯。"- Jada Poon"We are never alone. 尤其是一個香港咁 busy 嘅 city，我哋各自都好多時 on survival mode... 當你見到同佢有共同分享嘅一種情感，就會多咗一份力量行落去。"- Jada PoonABOUT THE GUEST:Jada Poon is a talented photographer and visual artist whose work revolves around shared human experiences. Leaving behind a career as a corporate lawyer, she pursued design at Central Saint Martins in London before finding her calling behind the lens. Her recent exhibition, "Still with us" (光一直都在), explores the profound journey of grief and love. You can find more of her visual storytelling on Instagram at @JadaPoonPhotography.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can a banker find his true self through the chaos of permanent ink?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Simon Shingleton, an expressive figurative artist with a multifaceted life: he is a banker, a teacher, a husband, and a father of four.From abandoning erasable pencils to drawing fast-paced figures while listening to electronic music, Simon approaches art as a way to bypass his own insecurities. We dive deep into his unique philosophy—treating his artwork not as a pursuit of a perfect masterpiece, but as a crucial tool for personal growth and discovering authentic human potential. Simon opens up about the emotional resonance of the "Ugly Duckling" story, explaining why seeing people discover their true talents brings him to tears.We also discuss how the courage found on the canvas translates into his corporate career, the unique challenges of creating in Hong Kong's fast-paced society, and why he believes businesses should open their valuable real estate to support local creatives.If you are a creative balancing a demanding corporate career with your passion, or someone wrestling with the ever-present flutter of self-doubt, Simon’s vulnerable and honest perspective on embracing life's "struggles" is essential listening.🎧 **IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:**- **The Banker Artist:** How Simon balances a high-pressure corporate career with his expressive figurative art.- **Embracing Mistakes:** Why switching to permanent fine-liner pens and electronic music helps bypass his critical brain.- **The "Ugly Duckling" Tears:** Simon's profound emotional response to seeing individuals realize their true potential.- **Dealing with Doubt:** Understanding self-doubt and feelings of inadequacy not as roadblocks, but as a constant flutter in your vision.- **Hong Kong’s Art Scene:** The unique mix of global finance and culture, and the need for businesses to support public art spaces like Wyndham Social.- **The Next Chapter:** Moving from single portraits to exploring the relationship between clothed figures and their environments, inspired by Matisse's Red Studio.**CHAPTERS:**0:00 - Intro: Hosting the exhibition at Wyndham Social01:09 - Who is Simon Shingleton? (Banker, Teacher, Father & Artist)01:23 - The "Ugly Duckling" and crying over human potential06:22 - Capturing authentic individuality in expressive art08:11 - Using permanent pen & electronic music to fight insecurity14:08 - The importance of value, friction, and embracing human chaos17:40 - Leonardo da Vinci and understanding the nature of doubt28:00 - The vulnerability and fear of a public exhibition34:00 - What’s Next: Multi-figure pieces and Matisse's Red Studio37:14 - Hong Kong's unique edge and challenges for artists43:00 - Why corporate F&B spaces should support local creativity**QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:**"I believe that you were designed... you were made to be you." - Simon Shingleton"I want to feel the friction when I'm drawing... I believe life is a struggle." - Simon Shingleton"It is a tool by which I can become more myself and hopefully... the person I'm drawing can be encouraged." - Simon Shingleton**ABOUT THE GUEST:**Simon Shingleton is a Hong Kong-based expressive figurative artist, banker, and educator. Embracing chaos and human complexity, Simon focuses on capturing the honest individuality and internal energy of his models using permanent pens and watercolour washes. He views art primarily as a tool for personal growth, overcoming insecurity, and celebrating the authenticity of the people he draws.**ABOUT THE HOST:**Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.**CONNECT WITH US:**Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can an advertising creative director find fine art success by embracing her kitchen mistakes? In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Pyrc Luke, an artist who wears many hats. Originally an advertising creative director, Pyrc left the corporate world to study fine art at CHK. Alongside her art, she works as a freelance advertiser, barber, and even formulates organic hair products as a trichology practitioner.Pyrc dives into her unique artistic process, blending her background in conceptual advertising with kinetic art—using light and movement to explore human desires. We discuss her fascinating "Failed Eggs" series, where she intentionally ruins boiled eggs to challenge our perceptions of failure and success. We also delve into "Pleasure's Mind," a kinetic piece using a wet market lamp to symbolize turning harsh judgments into entertainment. We also explore what Hong Kong offers artists today and her pitch for a massive "playground" or maker space filled with machinery to foster creative diversity. Plus, she shares a touching story about earning the validation of her engineer father through her complex mechanical art. If you are struggling with the pressure to "be liked," questioning your own career path, or just want to learn how to embrace errors as alternatives, Pyrc's journey of asking the right questions is exactly what you need to hear. 🎧 **IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:**• **Wearing Many Hats:** Balancing life as a former ad creative, barber, trichologist, and kinetic artist. • **The Master's Interview:** How a challenging question from a chef friend after a failed Zoom interview pushed her to fight for her spot at CHK. • **Kinetic Art & Mechanics:** Building moving art without an engineering background and the proud moment her father recognized her mechanical skills. • **Pleasure's Mind:** Turning societal judgment into a dancing, entertaining experience using an everyday wet market lamp. • **Embracing Errors:** The story behind her "Failed Eggs" collection and redefining failure as just a beautiful alternative. • **A Playground for Artists:** Her vision for a machine-filled maker space to boost creative diversity and talent in Hong Kong. • **Advice to Her Younger Self:** Why we need to stop trying to be liked and start being authentic to avoid internalized expectations. Start listening to learn how to embrace your own alternatives. **CHAPTERS:**0:00 - Intro & Pyrc's Many Hats01:06 - Failing the Master's Interview & Fighting for Art01:08 - Why Kinetic Art? Asking the Right Questions01:10 - A Proud Moment: Bonding with an Engineer Dad01:19 - "Pleasure's Mind": Turning Judgment into Entertainment01:25 - "Failed Eggs": Finding Beauty in Kitchen Mistakes01:32 - The Core Theme: Human Desire & Success Standards01:35 - Advice to Her Younger Self: Don't Try to be Liked01:43 - The Dream Maker Space for Hong Kong Artists**QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:**"I would stop saying or telling her that you have to or want to be liked." - Pyrc Luke "By asking the first question, we can ask a better question next time, which also means getting closer to the answer." - Pyrc Luke **ABOUT THE GUEST:**Pyrc Luke is a Hong Kong-based kinetic artist, former advertising creative director, barber, and hair-care formulator. Known for exploring human desire and embracing alternatives through works like "Failed Eggs" and "Pleasure's Mind," her art heavily relies on light, movement, and challenging societal standards. **ABOUT THE HOST:**Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries. **CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

What happens to art when AI can perfectly generate a book, song, or movie on command?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Denis Leo Hegic, a Berlin-based curator who challenges everything we know about the traditional art world.From debating the true definition of a "curator" to redefining the modern gallery, Denis brings a beautifully simplistic yet profound philosophy to creativity: art is not just an object, it is fundamentally an experience. We dive deep into why "human failability" and our innate mistakes will become the ultimate stamp of quality in the rapidly approaching age of generative AI. Denis also opens up about the unfair pressure placed on commercial galleries, why a museum doesn't need to be a building with thick walls, and the incredible, fast-paced potential of Hong Kong's art scene.If you are a creative juggling multiple hats, an artist questioning what "good" art truly is, or just someone looking to stop wasting their "borrowed time" on this planet, Denis’s raw and unapologetic perspective is essential listening.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:Start listening to engineer your own creativity.CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Who is Denis Leo Hegic?03:30 - Borrowed Time: Why you must pursue your passion08:34 - AI vs Humanity: The new stamp of quality is human mistakes10:04 - Is there such a thing as "Bad Art"?20:22 - Is art allowed to be beautiful and decorative?28:47 - What is your deepest desire as a curator?31:16 - Looking up "Museum" in the dictionary33:45 - The problem with 60-year-old gallery formats43:14 - Hong Kong's unique opportunities and the City Museum concept50:04 - Juggling multiple hats and the myth of independence56:11 - Being inspired by friends and unapologetic artistsQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"If you ask AI... 'Give me a book on this topic,' and you get the best book ever written... what is left for us to do? Well, because of our own human failability, I believe in your mistakes." - Denis Leo Hegic"If you're on this planet for 50, 60, 70, 80, it's only 90 years, right? That's like a third of the life of a turtle. So you're just a little glimpse here. So maybe it's good to dedicate your time... pursuing something that you are passionate about." - Denis Leo Hegic"In Russian, 'iskusv' means 'art'. In my language, in Serbian, it means 'experience'. For me... I understood everything. I don't need to read any more books about art. Art is an experience." - Denis Leo HegicABOUT THE GUEST:Denis Leo Hegic is a Berlin-based art curator driven by a passion for continuous learning and human connection. Rejecting over-intellectualised jargon, Denis approaches art through a simplistic, experiential lens. He is a strong advocate for fluid exhibition formats, community art spaces, and treating the urban landscape itself as a living museum.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can a former professional footballer and corporate lawyer redefine the art scene? In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Petr Hajek, the founder of the Chemistry Gallery in the Czech Republic, whose career pivot proves it's never too late to follow your dreams.From writing legislation to pioneering the promotion of emerging artists, Petr shares his "Blue Ocean Strategy" for success when he started his gallery with no prior art experience. We dive deep into his unique philosophy of feeling the "chemistry" with an artwork rather than needing to understand it. We also explore how he curates lively exhibitions by blending contemporary art with local electronic music.We also discuss his international ambitions, his thoughts on Hong Kong's growing art hub, and his crucial advice for young artists looking to catch a gallery's attention.If you are contemplating a major career change or an artist trying to break into the commercial gallery world, Petr’s adventurous spirit and practical advice on building trust and taking risks is essential listening.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:Start listening to find your own blue ocean.CHAPTERS:01:00:00 - Intro: Petr Hajek's unlikely background01:04:08 - The "Blue Ocean" strategy for starting an art gallery01:06:55 - Learning the art world on the fly01:14:36 - Naming the "Chemistry Gallery" and feeling the art01:20:31 - Why artists need to work with curators01:23:28 - Making art accessible through "Chemistry Prints"01:27:40 - Mixing electronic music with fine art01:31:12 - First impressions of the Hong Kong art scene01:37:51 - Final advice: Follow your dreamsQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"It's not important to understand, it's not important that you don't know too much about art. It's important to feel... chemistry." - Petr Hajek"By Blue Ocean Strategy, I mean that it's important to do things that nobody else is doing because then the competition is much easier." - Petr Hajek"I think it's important for clients to understand... they should be working with galleries, buying from galleries, because if they do this, the galleries can support the artists." - Petr Hajek**ABOUT THE GUEST:**Petr Hajek is the founder of the Chemistry Gallery in the Czech Republic. After a career as a professional football player and a lawyer, he pivoted to the art world to champion emerging young artists. He is known for integrating electronic music into his exhibitions and actively promoting Czech artists on the international stage.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Does true artistic freedom come from waiting for inspiration, or from relentless discipline?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Marjorie Hernandez, a Peruvian artist and educator who left her comfort zone in South America to dive into the vibrant art scenes of Shenzhen and Hong Kong.From transforming a spare apartment room into a chaotic, multi-medium studio to fusing the neon "Chicha" colors of Lima with traditional Chinese ceramics in Jingdezhen, Marjorie approaches her craft with unyielding passion. We dive deep into her philosophy on creativity—debunking the myth of the "inspired artist" and treating art as a muscle that requires daily training, rigid schedules, and routine. Marjorie opens up about her early insecurities, the aggressive push from her family to finally go abroad, and why having an idea means absolutely nothing if you don't bring it into "Planet Earth."We also discuss her unique Gelli plate printing techniques, the profound lessons she learns from teaching young students, and her bold vision to make Hong Kong’s art community more accessible, collaborative, and open for up-and-coming creators.If you are a creative struggling with self-doubt, waiting for the "perfect moment" to create, or navigating the challenges of finding your voice in a foreign culture, Marjorie’s energetic and highly disciplined perspective is exactly what you need to hear.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:The Discipline of Art: Why relying on inspiration is a trap and how to build a strict creative routine.Cultural Fusion: Blending vibrant Peruvian "Chicha" colors with Asian cityscapes and traditional ceramics.The Power of Support: How a tough-love push from her family changed her life trajectory.Gelli Plate Printing: Exploring this unique, hands-on, and accessible printmaking technique.From Idea to Reality: Why conceptual ideas are just theories until you execute them.Hong Kong's Art Scene: The opportunities and challenges of creating an open, collaborative art community.Start listening to engineer your own creativity.CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Why we are having this conversation01:13 - Who is Marjorie Hernandez? (Peruvian Artist in Asia)02:50 - Overcoming insecurity and the power of family support05:25 - Discipline vs. Inspiration: Creativity is a muscle08:06 - Setting goals, mini-journals, and bringing ideas to "Planet Earth"09:12 - The greatest lessons learned from teaching young artists13:35 - Urban Neon: Viewing Hong Kong through a Latin American lens17:38 - Mastering ceramics in Jingdezhen, China19:30 - The hands-on art of Gelli plate printing24:06 - Navigating the Hong Kong art scene as an expat31:30 - Final advice: Just get it doneQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"The work of an artist requires a lot of discipline. Many people think it's based on inspiration... you just get the job done. Creativity is a muscle you need to train." - Marjorie Hernandez"If you do not bring those ideas into Planet Earth, that idea doesn't exist. It's a theory." - Marjorie Hernandez"Do the work. Get it done. Never mind when, but get it done." - Marjorie HernandezABOUT THE GUEST:Marjorie Hernandez is a Peruvian artist and educator currently based in Shenzhen, China. With a background in fine arts, she explores cultural identity, memory, and emotional states through a variety of mediums, including Gelli plate printing, ceramics, and textiles. By blending the vibrant, neon aesthetics of Peruvian "Chicha" culture with traditional Asian techniques, Marjorie creates a unique visual dialogue that bridges her South American roots with her life in Asia.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

畫畫一定要探討生死、探討人性，才能稱得上是「好藝術」嗎？ 在本集《Making It》中，我們邀請到香港畫家風漸 (Fung Jin)，一位在創作上展現極致「誠實」的藝術家。他拒絕用艱深晦澀的哲學理論來過度包裝作品，理直氣壯地宣告：「我就是喜歡畫靚嘢！」風漸與我們分享了他非常獨特的自學歷程——從零開始，他透過 Photoshop 軟體中的「色調分離 (Posterize)」濾鏡，逆向拆解了人類幾百年來的油畫色彩邏輯。他將畫面看作地圖與等高線，像砌拼圖一樣，一步步建構出自己極具標誌性、既平面又立體的獨特畫風。同時，我們也深入探討了他畫筆下的香港風景，從長沙灣的平台花園到下午放學時熟悉的「煮飯味」，看他如何用畫布重組並保留這座城市的集體記憶。此外，風漸對香港藝術市場有著敏銳的觀察。他指出市場正經歷前所未有的「透明化」，曾經神秘的畫廊如今大方貼上紅點與標價，藝術品正逐漸走入尋常百姓家。最後，對於數位創作浪潮，風漸提出了強而有力的反思：為什麼在 iPad 上作畫只是讓電腦「猜測」你的指令，永遠無法取代在真實紙張上手繪的靈魂連結？如果你厭倦了藝術圈的過度包裝、對非傳統的自學方法感到好奇，或者懷念舊香港的城市溫度，風漸直白且純粹的藝術視角，絕對會讓你耳目一新。🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro: 誰是風漸？與《易經》卦象的淵源 05:15 - 自學之路：從 Photoshop 濾鏡中悟出油畫秘訣 14:30 - 重組記憶：長沙灣平台花園與消失的香港味道 25:40 - 藝術的誠實：為什麼畫「靚嘢」不需要用深奧理論包裝 35:10 - 香港藝術市場觀察：從神秘的畫廊到透明的紅點標價 42:20 - iPad vs 真實手繪：科技帶來的方便與失真 50:15 - 大館 Touch Gallery 最新聯展資訊分享QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE: "我鍾意畫靚嘢嘅，咁我話畀人聽我畫靚嘢... 我唔需要話我呢個代表生死呀、呢個代表脆弱咩，我唔需要呢啲嘢㗎。我反而覺得而家係少咗啲咁誠實嘅嘢。" - Fung Jin "你用 iPad 嚟畫畫，同你畫喺實物上面係兩樣嘢嚟㗎，絕對係兩個概念！... 佢呢樣工具就係我畀個指令佢，佢『估』我諗乜嘢。" - Fung Jin "以前買一幅畫係好難想像嘅事... 但係而家好似個個都買到畫。以前外地畫廊都見唔到紅點... 咁而家甚至乎喺個 Caption 度會寫埋價錢。" - Fung JinABOUT THE GUEST: 風漸 (Fung Jin) 是一位香港畫家，其筆名源自《易經》的「風山漸」卦。他以獨特的幾何解構手法與充滿通透感的畫風聞名。風漸從日常香港風景中汲取靈感，致力於將生活痕跡與城市記憶轉化為畫布上的永恆。他堅信藝術應該回歸誠實與純粹，拒絕過度概念化，並持續在實體創作中尋找最真實的連結。他的作品近期將於大館 Touch Gallery 展出。ABOUT THE HOST: Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US: Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can an architect build a better world with a canvas instead of blueprints?In this episode of Making it, we talk with Bernard, an architect with a 30-year career who recently moved into being a full-time artist.From working on large projects like Hong Kong's Victoria Dockside to painting abstract pieces, Bernard uses both to create a sense of belonging. We explore his "Half Time" awakening during the pandemic. This reflection inspired him to leave his firm and focus entirely on his passion for art.Bernard shares his unique practice of mixing care for nature with creativity. He reuses building samples, turning stone into sand for his canvases. His faith also influences his work, using colors to show unseen forces: white for the Almighty, yellow for the Spirit, blue for hope, and red for love. He also discusses his show at the CUHK Museum of Climate Change, where he paints icebergs in gold to show their value to our world.Finally, we discuss Hong Kong's active art scene. Bernard shares his vision for a new autumn art festival to keep the city's creative energy going outside of the busy March season.If you are considering a career change, care about climate change, or are curious about abstract painting, Bernard’s view on keeping creativity pure is a must-listen.In this episode, we cover:- The "Half Time" Pivot: The pandemic was a wake-up call for Bernard to switch to full-time art.- Creating Belonging: Bernard sees buildings as functional sculpture. Public spaces like Victoria Dockside unite communities.- Colors of Faith, Hope, and Love: There is deep meaning in his color choices. He uses blue to represent hope that carries us through dark times.- Golden Icebergs: Glaciers are precious. Bernard uses gold paint to highlight them in his Museum of Climate Change show.- Reusing Materials: Bernard turns old stone samples into sand for his art to support nature and avoid waste.- A Vision for HK's Art Scene: Bernard suggests a new art fair in September or October to balance the March rush of Art Basel.- Humanity vs. AI: We must protect our inner creativity. Bernard warns the next generation not to let their minds be spoiled by artificial intelligence.Start listening to learn why art is a human necessity.Chapters:0:00 Intro: From 30 Years in Architecture to Full-Time Art02:38 Architecture as Functional Sculpture and Victoria Dockside07:45 The "Half Time" Pandemic Pivot14:26 Climate Change and Our Responsibility to the Environment18:00 The Abstract Colors of Faith, Hope, and Love22:15 Painting Precious "Golden" Icebergs for CUHK32:41 Reusing Building Samples into Canvas Texture35:09 Hong Kong's Art Scene and a Pitch for an Autumn Fair46:52 A Warning on AI and Why Art is a NecessityQuotes from the episode:"I look at building, not necessarily just as a commodity... I think it's a piece of functional sculpture that embody a lot of concept." - Bernard"I believe art is not a luxury. It is a necessity for everybody." - Bernard"Keep creating in your mind and keep pure with your thoughts and do it with passion." - BernardAbout the guest:Bernard is an architect with over 30 years of experience who moved into being a full-time artist. His work explores climate change, social duty, and faith. He currently has a series on icebergs at the Museum of Climate Change at CUHK.About the host:Alex See is on a mission to help artists and creative people thrive in Hong Kong. Through Making it, Alex interviews the minds shaping culture to show what it takes to succeed in creative fields.Connect with us:Subscribe for more on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Why does someone who went to art school hesitate to call herself an artist?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Yvonne Chin, a creative who balances a full-time career in insurance with a deep passion for art and community. We dive into her journey from studying photography in college to creating digital illustrations and custom pet portraits that give back to local Hong Kong charities. Yvonne opens up about the complexities of her Asian American identity, the struggle of making friends as an adult, and why her ultimate goal isn't fame, but genuine human connection.We also explore the Hong Kong art scene, discussing the need for more affordable art, adult open studio spaces, and why she believes art should be a mandatory subject in schools. If you’re a creative dealing with imposter syndrome, an introvert looking for community, or simply someone trying to be a little kinder to yourself, Yvonne’s story is exactly what you need to hear.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:Start listening to find your community and create with intention.CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Why Yvonne said yes to the podcast02:22 - Who is Yvonne Chin? (Insurance, dogs, and identity)05:02 - Earliest art memories and pivoting to photography in art school10:30 - Navigating her Asian American identity13:58 - Art as a love language and giving back to charity18:27 - 10-year vision and learning to oil paint24:50 - The creative process behind custom pet portraits36:01 - Commercial art vs. passion in Hong Kong39:54 - The need for affordable art and adult classes in HK44:40 - Why art should be a mandatory subject49:07 - Final message: Be kind to yourselfQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"I made it a habit to introduce myself as a person versus my career. But I am an artist." - Yvonne Chin"All it takes is asking. Everyone wants to help, but not everyone has an avenue to do it." - Yvonne Chin"I think you should be kind to yourself. I think that's the way everyone should go through life." - Yvonne ChinABOUT THE GUEST:Yvonne Chin is an artist and creative based in Hong Kong who bridges her art with philanthropy. Educated in photography at art school, she currently works in insurance but dedicates her creative energy to digital illustration, pet portraits, and product design, often donating the proceeds to local charities.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexseeCopywriting:YouTube Description

在本集《Making It》中，我們邀請到了風格直率、不拘一格的視覺藝術家 Man Ling。Man Ling 的藝術之路充滿了傳奇色彩——從小時候單純熱愛畫畫，到誤打誤撞闖入紐約藝術圈，再到回歸香港長洲，向隱世高人「王伯」學習打破傳統的書法技藝。Man Ling 對於「學院派」與「傳統」有著極具顛覆性的看法。他分享了為什麼畫畫對他來說不是為了追求美，而是一種「救命」的自我治療過程。我們深入探討了他如何將廢棄的書法練習紙重組，創造出如火燒般的重生美學。更重要的是，Man Ling 對香港藝術家提出了極其務實（甚至有些刺耳）的建議。他直言藝術家必須放下「清高」，學會像生意人一樣思考，並在申請政府資助時收起怨氣，懂得迎合遊戲規則。這是一場關於藝術、生存與真實自我的深度對話。如果你是一個在體制與創作自由之間掙扎的藝術家，或者想知道如何在幾天內掌握原本需要十年苦練的書法心法，Man Ling 的故事絕對不容錯過。🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:開始收聽，學會如何在藝術與現實中生存。CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro: 誰是 Man Ling?03:49 - 藝術作為自我治療：在這個時代被遺忘的功能16:26 - 誤闖紐約：從漫畫到抽象表現主義的震撼教育36:40 - 長洲奇遇：隱世高人「王伯」與打破常規的書法42:23 - 「忘我」的境界：當你腦中一片空白，畫作才是最真實的45:18 - 拼貼重生：賦予廢棄書法新生命的創作過程54:45 - 給香港藝術家的忠告：學會做生意，放下藝術家的身段59:26 - 關於政府資助：收起怨氣，懂得迎合才能生存01:07:08 - 尋找你的根：為什麼了解東方文化比模仿西方更重要QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE: "最重要是那樣東西可以治療自己... 當你忘記自我，沒有了空白一片去畫畫，你畫到的東西是最真實的。" - Man Ling "我覺得香港的藝術家，他們要學一樣的事就是... 首先你也要讓自己，有種生意的人的心態... 因為你的作品和市場價值，其實是兩件事。" - Man Ling "你知不知道筆可以卷的？筆卷的話你做到的事，很多不可能做到的事，你都可以做到。" - Man LingABOUT THE GUEST: Man Ling 是一位香港視覺藝術家，以其獨特的拼貼藝術與融合東西方哲學的創作風格聞名。早年遊歷紐約學習西方抽象藝術，後回歸香港長洲，師從民間高人探索傳統書法的創新邊界。Man Ling 將藝術視為一種自我治療與修行的過程，作品常流露出一種經歷火煉後的重生感。ABOUT THE HOST: Alex See 致力於將香港打造成藝術家和創意人能夠茁壯成長的地方。透過《Making It》，Alex 採訪塑造文化的思想領袖，揭示在創意產業中取得成功的關鍵。CONNECT WITH US: 訂閱以獲取更多關於創意和香港藝術圈的對話！📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can a 12-year-old artist master multiple mediums and find inspiration in everything from microorganisms to ghost stories?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Arthus, a 12-year-old artist whose creative journey started as an infant by putting his hands and feet in paint. Growing up with parents who are both art teachers, Arthus explores a vast array of mediums, including 3D modeling, animation, digital art, and upcycling CDs.We dive deep into his imaginative world, exploring his "Snake Overload" collection, which features everything from a digital origami snake in space to a malfunctioning electrical snake. Arthus explains how he turns everyday learning—like discovering the terrifying reality of microscopic water bears —into his art. He also shares his experience collaborating with international creator "The French Girl" to design a unique double-heart snake.If you want to see how the next generation approaches creativity, learning, and stepping out of their comfort zone, Arthus’s fearless mindset and advice to "be more confident" is essential listening.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Why we are having this conversation01:40 - Meet Arthus: The 12-year-old artist05:05 - First art memories and growing up with artist parents06:49 - A day in the life: Balancing homework and learning fun facts07:32 - Turning microscopic cells and "water bears" into art09:05 - Current projects: 3D animating chess pieces11:20 - Collaborating with The French Girl on a double-heart artwork13:33 - Exploring the "Snake Overload" collection17:53 - Creating the "Snake Overload Adventures" for a bar exhibition21:50 - Future goals: Traveling the world to learn more25:19 - Advice to his 5-year-old self: Be more confidentQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"I love learning things because it teaches me so much more about the world around me." - Arthus"Be more confident. You will do great things if you are confident." - ArthusABOUT THE GUEST: Arthus is a 12-year-old artist based in Hong Kong who works across physical, digital, and 3D mediums. Inspired by the world around him, history, and science, he is the creator of the "Snake Overload" universe and has showcased his work in international exhibitions.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

在本集《Making It》中，我們邀請到了著名陶藝家、教育家及大館 Touch Gallery 的創辦人 Anders Wong（黃森）。Anders 是一位不僅僅停留在技法，更深入探討藝術哲學的思想者。從大學時期的迷惘，到經歷三年每天在 Starbucks 苦讀哲學書的「閉關修煉」，Anders 分享了他如何參透「色即是空，空即是色」，並將這種「無形」的概念轉化為他在陶藝創作與教學上的獨特心法。他坦言自己以前也是個會問「藝術是什麼」的學生，但現在他的腦袋轉速比常人快三倍，因為他學會了打破框架。我們深入探討了他如何在大館運營三個展示空間，將生活與藝術結合，以及他如何透過「頌缽」與社區項目（如疫情期間的許願陶鈴）來療癒人心。Anders 更展現了香港人特有的「不死精神」，分享了他如何在昂貴的租金與高壓環境下，依然堅持推動本土藝術發展。如果你是一位在創作路上感到迷惘的藝術家，或是對如何平衡藝術追求與商業生存感興趣的聽眾，Anders 充滿智慧與禪意的分享絕對能為你帶來新的啟發。🎧 本集精彩亮點：開始收聽，打破你對藝術的既定認知。CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro: 誰是 Anders Wong?01:45 - 星期二、三的堅持：在繁忙中保持純真06:08 - 在畫廊裡做 Studio：拉近大師與學生的距離16:47 - 三年哲學苦讀：參透「色即是空」的轉捩點25:52 - 聲音的藝術：原來家裡的飯碗也能演奏？29:58 - 疫情下的藝術力量：陶鈴與回家吃飯碗41:26 - 香港藝術家的特質：租金壓力下的「不死精神」44:28 - 給政府的建議：如何零成本打造藝術城市？49:12 - 人者無敵：Kindness 作為人生與藝術的最高指導QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE: "到了三年之後你突然覺得，什麼都是，什麼都不是... 我覺得我的腦子是走快了三倍的。" - Anders Wong "香港獨特之處是很簡單的，就是我們是不死的... 因為我們每天要承擔的是很昂貴的租金很昂貴的人工，所以你是不能輸的。" - Anders Wong "其實藝術就是一個無形的東西，你懂得去玩弄他，其實他可以是任何東西，是變形蟲。" - Anders WongABOUT THE GUEST: Anders Wong（黃森）是一位香港資深陶藝家及藝術教育者。他不僅是 Touch Gallery 的創辦人，更進駐大館推動當代陶瓷藝術與生活美學。擁有深厚的藝術與哲學背景，Anders 擅長以跨界思維引導學生，並致力於透過展覽、教學與慈善活動，將藝術融入大眾生活。ABOUT THE HOST: Alex See 致力於將香港打造成藝術家和創意人能夠茁壯成長的地方。透過《Making It》，Alex 採訪塑造文化的思想領袖，揭示在創意產業中取得成功的關鍵。CONNECT WITH US: 訂閱以獲取更多關於創意和香港藝術圈的對話！📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Michael Rothling, a "2.0 Entrepreneur" who defies every corporate stereotype. A toy company CEO who took over the family business at 23, Michael blends the disciplined business acumen of his German father with the explosive, fashionable flair of his Italian mother.From tufting rugs to utilizing AI for "Brain Rot" trends, Michael approaches business as a performance art. We dive deep into his philosophy of "Self Branding"—why he deliberately dresses in loud, pink outfits to sell emotion and experience rather than just products. Michael opens up vulnerably about his past battles with bullying, severe acne, and a recent "dark tunnel" of depression, explaining how art became his weapon to find light again.We also discuss the "Kidult" market revolution, why having enemies is actually a sign of success (and fuel for your fire), and his passionate defense of Hong Kong as the ultimate safe haven for international business.If you are an entrepreneur trying to find your unique voice, or a creative navigating the intersection of commerce and art, Michael’s colorful, fearless approach to life and business is essential listening.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Who is Michael Roffling?02:02 - The "Entrepreneur 2.0" & Mixing Toys with Art05:24 - Inheriting a Legacy: The German Father & Italian Mother11:36 - The Strategy of the "Paradise Bird" (Self-Branding)13:12 - "Money gives you a better class of enemy"14:43 - Art Process: Tufting, Splashing, and ChatGPT28:00 - The Problem with "Toy Art" & Mass Production38:43 - Childhood Trauma & The "Dark Tunnel" of Depression46:58 - Advice to a 16-Year-Old: "Don't Give a Sh*t"51:52 - Why Hong Kong is the Safest Hub for Creatives56:04 - A Vision for HK: Attracting International ArtistsQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"Money can't buy your friends, but it can give you a better class of enemy... I’m a fire. And if you put gasoline on the fire, it grows more up." - Michael Roffling"I don't give a sh*t what other people think... It is not a rebellion. It is self-branding. It is self-security to go on the street dressed like this." - Michael Roffling"I look at the toy in the aesthetic way, not into the emotional way... Yes, I am a Santa Claus... but I see toy more in aesthetic and how it's presented on the shelf." - Michael RofflingABOUT THE GUEST:Michael Rothling is a Hong Kong-based toy industry entrepreneur and artist. Taking over his family's toy manufacturing business at a young age, he has evolved the company by integrating modern trends like the "Kidult" market and AI technology. He is also a practicing artist, utilizing mediums like tufting and splash art to express his vibrant, "Paradise Bird" persona and navigate mental health challenges.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Is art just a decoration, or is it a historical record of a city disappearing before our eyes?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Rick Lo, a Hong Kong artist and lecturer who balances the "slash" life of being both a designer and a creative artist.Rick’s work is a love letter to a Hong Kong that is fading fast. From capturing the iconic neon signs of the 80s to the nostalgic "Airplane Olive" throwers, Rick views his role not just as a creator, but as a historian capturing the city's fleeting moments. We explore his internal tug-of-war between his rational designer brain and his desire for artistic freedom, and his latest experiments with Chinese calligraphy to break his own rules.If you are struggling to balance a full-time job with your creative passion, or want to understand the role of art as a "buffer" in a stressful society, this conversation is for you.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:The "Slash" Identity: Navigating the blurry line between being a client-focused designer and an expressive artist.The Historian's Mission: Why Rick feels a responsibility to "record everything before it fades out" in Hong Kong.Art vs. Design: How he fights the urge to make everything logical and learns to embrace the spontaneous.The Plane Window: The story behind his viral AR artwork that captures the emotion of leaving and returning to HK.Buffering Society: Rick’s view that art isn't just about healing, but creating a necessary "buffer zone" for stressed citizens.The Google Doc Habit: The surprisingly rigid way Henry tracks his life to create space for creativity.Future of HK Art: Why integrating art into daily community life is more important than expensive museums.Start listening to rediscover the city you live in.CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Why artists need to share their stories03:12 - Who is Rick Lo? (The Designer vs. Artist struggle)08:26 - The "Commercial" Trap: Do people like it, or do I like it?12:00 - Art Fairs vs. Galleries: Why strangers give the best feedback16:40 - The "Plane Window" & "Hot Air Balloon": Capturing the migration wave20:01 - Recording History: Why he paints neon lights & old Hong Kong23:40 - "Airplane Olives": Nostalgia for a disappearing culture32:05 - Visual Evolution: Moving from rigid lines to color and calligraphy42:53 - The "Be Nice" Philosophy: Why kindness is a survival skill46:00 - Advice to his 16-Year-Old Self: "Be Brave"49:43 - The Google Doc: Tracking every moment of life since 201851:45 - Art as a "Buffer": The artist's role in Hong Kong society54:22 - Opportunities & Challenges: Space, sponsorship, and communityQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"I don't want to use healing. I want to use buffering... Having the society to have a little bit of a sense of space to think of what the room to play with." - Rick Lo"If a city doesn't have an artist, it is kind of like a nightmare. And everything will be boring and not fun at all." - Rick Lo"You need to get rid of the life that you have probably, and then try something new... Be brave." - Rick LoABOUT THE GUEST:Rick Lo is a Hong Kong-based artist, designer, and lecturer. He is known for his digital artworks that capture the unique urban landscape of Hong Kong, from cyberpunk tram rides to nostalgic neon signages. Blending his background in design with artistic expression, Rick aims to record the shifting identity of the city, acting as a visual historian for a landscape that is constantly evolving.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Can an AI engineer master the soul of traditional painting?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Eric Luke, a realism artist with a surprising background: he’s a computer scientist who spent 20 years coding AI to recognize faces before the technology was mainstream.From training algorithms to mastering the brushstrokes of Baroque and Impressionist masters, Eric approaches art as the ultimate problem-solving exercise. We dive deep into his unique philosophy—treating a blank canvas like an engineering problem where you must "break it down piece by piece." Eric opens up about the counter-intuitive discipline of knowing what not to paint, explaining why "the more detail you paint, the worse is the painting."We also discuss the psychology of handwriting and brushwork, the unique advantages Hong Kong offers for "Art Tech," and his fascinating proposal to turn the entire city into a "treasure hunt" museum.If you are a creative balancing a "practical" career with your passion, or an artist wrestling with the existential threat of AI, Eric’s logical yet deeply human perspective on why the "process" matters more than the "product" is essential listening.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:The Engineer Artist: How Eric’s background in computer science and AI shapes his realism art.Art as Problem Solving: Finding happiness in breaking complex images down piece by piece.The Detail Trap: Why painting too much detail ruins the expressiveness of a piece.Impressionist History: How a group of French artists turned a critic's insult into a global movement.Psychology of Style: Throwing the "responsibility" of understanding an image back to the viewer.Hong Kong’s Edge: Why HK is the perfect lab for Art Tech and the need for a secondary-school art academy.AI vs. Humanity: Why generative AI can never replace the joy of the human artistic process.Start listening to engineer your own creativity.CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Why we are having this conversation02:53 - Who is Eric Lu? (Computer Scientist & Realism Artist)04:04 - Training AI to see faces vs. Painting faces07:22 - Finding happiness in "Problem Solving"13:25 - The Paradox of Detail: Why "Less is More"18:29 - Can anyone learn to paint like a Master?21:31 - The Story of Impressionism: Turning insults into identity27:10 - Reviewing Eric's 25-year-old Master Copy32:29 - The Psychology of Handwriting & Brushstrokes38:04 - Learning "Cute" Art (Chikawa) from Students42:13 - Why Hong Kong is the future hub of Art Tech44:03 - The Education Gap: Missing art academies in HK49:15 - A Vision for HK: The "City Museum" Treasure Hunt52:45 - The Elephant in the Room: Art in the age of AIQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"The more detail you paint, the worse is the painting, actually... You lose the spirit and expressiveness." - Eric Luke"If you ever try to solve some problem in your life... when you break it down piece by piece and you finish that piece by piece, it is the source of the happiness." - Eric Luke"It is all about the process. It is not about the product... AI cannot take it away from you." - Eric LukeABOUT THE GUEST:Eric Luke is a Hong Kong-based realism artist and educator who bridges the gap between technology and tradition. Originally trained as a computer scientist working in early facial recognition AI, Eric applies an analytical, problem-solving mindset to Western traditional art. He specializes in figurative painting and anatomy, blending the techniques of Baroque masters with the philosophy of Impressionism.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Is comfort the enemy of creativity?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Yuho Chang, a former jewelry designer turned abstract painter who describes herself as a "free bird" and a "bold, fearless soul."From finding traditional landscape painting "boring" to obsessively learning abstract techniques via Google and YouTube, Yuho shares her reinvention story with infectious energy. We dive deep into her creative pivot—moving from fine jewelry to large-scale ink and acrylics—and her philosophy that "once you are in comfort, you are in a problem." Yuho opens up about the vulnerability of facing critics who claim "a kindergartner could do that," and shares the practical hustle required to knock on gallery doors in Hong Kong.If you are a creative looking to pivot your career, or an artist struggling with the fear of rejection, Yuho’s advice on why you need to "dive 100% in" is exactly what you need to hear.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER: The Pivot: Why Yuho left jewelry design and found traditional painting "boring."Self-Taught Hustle: How curiosity, Google, and painting day and night launched her new career.The Critique: Dealing with the "my kid could paint that" comments and turning hurt into growth.City Energy: How the hustle of Hong Kong, Tokyo, and New York inspires her "Cityscape" series.The "5 Nos" Rule: A practical mindset for handling rejection from galleries (and why you should keep knocking).Breaking Barriers: Challenging ageism in art "open calls" and advocating for local Hong Kong talent.Start listening to challenge your own comfort zone.CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro: Why we are having this conversation 02:33 - Who is Yuho Chang? (Abstract Painter & Free Bird) 04:15 - "It was boring": Why she rejected traditional painting 06:19 - Being "Bold and Fearless" with color 12:18 - Cityscapes: Finding inspiration in the hustle (and capsule hotels) 14:40 - The "Little People": What brings a city to life 21:02 - The Philosophy: "Once you are in comfort, you are in problem" 23:40 - The Obsession: Painting day and night 26:05 - Advice to her 16-Year-Old Self: "You talk too much" 30:50 - The "Kindergarten" Critique: Handling bad reviews 36:40 - Sales Advice: Go out and get 5 "Nos" 40:50 - Does Hong Kong support local artists enough? 43:05 - Fighting Ageism: Why art has no expiration dateQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE: "Once you're in comfort, you are in problem... I always want to challenge myself and to be better." - Yuho Chang"I am a free bird... expressing myself on the canvas. That's who I am—bold and freely free soul." - Yuho Chang"Believe in yourself that if I can do it, you can do it. And it's just simple as one, two, three." - Yuho ChangABOUT THE GUEST: Yuho Chang is a Hong Kong-based abstract artist and former creative jewelry designer. Known for her bold use of ink and acrylics, she describes herself as a "free bird" who transitioned from traditional influences to fearless abstraction. She combines the hustle of a city girl with an unshakeable belief in self-expression and the power of diving 100% into your passion.ABOUT THE HOST: Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US: Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Does the "starving artist" myth define the Hong Kong art scene, or is it time to change the narrative?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with YC, a self-described "simple, fun woman" and one of the most uninhibited voices in the Hong Kong art scene.From being placed in art classes as "daycare" at age six to navigating the realities of high rent and ageism in local galleries, YC shares her journey with refreshing honesty. We dive deep into her unique creative process—transforming photos of tree bark into abstract villages—and her philosophy that art should be a "love letter to yourself." YC challenges us to take off the "masks" (and the black clothes) that so many Hong Konger's wear and simply embrace the fun of being alive.If you are an artist tired of the "starving" label, or someone looking to break free from societal expectations, this conversation is for you.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:The Origin Story: How a childhood "daycare" art class turned into a lifelong calling.Visual Alchemy: YC's unique method of finding hidden worlds in tree bark and wood grain.The HK Reality: The truth about high rent, ageism in galleries, and the "starving artist" stigma.East Meets West: How her American-Italian aunt and travels in China shaped her fusion style.The Vision: Why Hong Kong needs a "Wine & Dine Festival"—but for local artists.Life Philosophy: Why YC believes "the more I meet people, the more I love my dog."Start listening to reframe your own creative journey.CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Why we are having this conversation01:36 - Who is YC? (The "Fun Woman" of HK Art)02:40 - Started at 6: Art class as "daycare"06:00 - The Process: Talking to the canvas & tree bark inspiration11:08 - East Meets West: The influence of Aunt Maria16:58 - Why abstract art is harder than it looks20:00 - "Life is Short": Why YC refuses to wear black21:58 - What's Next: Getting messy with pottery25:40 - The #1 Challenge: High rent & "Starving Artists"30:30 - The truth about Ageism in Hong Kong galleries36:53 - The Vision: A "Street Fair" for Local Artists40:48 - Final Message: Take off the mask & be yourselfQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"The more I meet people, the more I love my dog... Why you have to put a mask on? Just be yourself." - YC"I know I will be an artist... but I end up becoming an artist, a starving artist. I don't know whether my mom is proud of me or not, but I'm an artist now." - YC"Life is short... Today I can be a lady. Tomorrow I can be boyish or sporty. Why not? Life should be fun." - YCABOUT THE GUEST:YC is a Hong Kong-based artist known for her "East meets West" style and her unique ability to find patterns and stories in natural textures like tree bark. Describing herself as a "fun, funny woman," she creates art as a form of personal diary, refusing to be restricted by a single style or societal expectation.ABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Kaly, a Hong Kong-based artist and graphic designer, to explore how she uses art to answer the ultimate question: "Who am I?"From the "rainbow pencil" that sparked her journey to the reality of navigating anxiety in a high-intensity city, Kaly opens up about why she creates to preserve her "most innocent moment." We dive deep into the unique "hustle" of the Hong Kong art scene, the constant battle for space versus the need for connection, and why she believes that a supportive community is the only way for artists to truly thrive.If you are a creative trying to balance the grind with your passion, or someone looking to reconnect with their inner child, this conversation is for you.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:The Spark: How a simple rainbow pencil and a Paul Klee painting ignited a lifelong passion.Art as Identity: Using creativity to answer "Who am I?" and reconnect with childhood innocence.The HK Paradox: Why Hong Kong is both "oversimulated" and a "very inspired place."Community Over Space: Why shared studios and supportive networks matter more than square footage.Managing Chaos: How art serves as a tool to process sensory overload and anxiety.Start listening to reframe your own creative journey.CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro: Why we are having this conversation 01:35 - Who is Kaly? (Graphic Designer & Artist) 03:12 - The Rainbow Pencil: Earliest creative memory 04:28 - Inspiration from Paul Klee ("Castle and Sun") 11:14 - Answering the question "Who am I?" 19:03 - The "Hustle": Balancing money and art in HK 20:32 - Finding inspiration in overstimulation 26:02 - Minimalism vs. Chaos 28:29 - The real solution: Supportive community & shared space 34:29 - Coping with panic attacks through color 39:36 - Final thoughts: "Artists are children that survived"QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"I think my art actually answers some big question to myself is that who am I... I want to keep those innocent and the positive energy when I was kid and put this in my work right now." - Kaly"Space is definitely one of the biggest challenge... but having a very supportive community will help us get through everything. Because we craving to make art so no matter what, we're gonna make it anyway." - KalyABOUT THE GUEST: Kaly is a Hong Kong-based artist and graphic designer who uses creation to understand emotions and memories. Her recent work explores the intersection of childhood innocence and the chaotic, textured energy of Hong Kong. IG: @kalyzzABOUT THE HOST: Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries. IG: @alexseesworldCONNECT WITH US: Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene! 📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee

Does creativity take practice, or is it as natural as breathing?In this episode of Making It, we sit down with Nance, a Hong Kong-based artist and digital designer, to explore the transformative journey from corporate life to full-time artistry.After a layoff in 2023 pushed her to pivot, Nance discovered that the twists and turns of life—the "things that had to go wrong"—were actually preparing her for her true calling. We dive deep into the unique "hustle" of the Hong Kong art scene, why this city is the ultimate connector for creatives, and how to create art that "messes with people's heads" to spark real conversation.If you are an artist, a creator, or someone looking to embrace their innate curiosity, this conversation is for you.🎧 IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:The Pivot: How Nance transitioned from Art Director to full-time Artist.Defining Creativity: Why Nance believes creativity is an innate human trait, "like breathing."The HK Advantage: Why Hong Kong’s density makes it easier to meet CEOs, gallery owners, and collaborators.Visual Philosophy: How Nance uses texture and optical illusions to represent life's uneven journey.Future Plans: Inside the move to Wong Chuk Hang, Hong Kong’s rising art hub.Start listening to reframe your own creative journey.CHAPTERS:0:00 - Intro: Why we are having this conversation 01:44 - Who is Nance? (From Digital Design to Fine Art)05:08 - "Creativity is like breathing"07:49 - The early inspiration: Growing up with a creative mother12:06 - The Art Style: Messing with the viewer’s head16:06 - Using art to reflect on life’s twists and turns18:28 - Why "things had to go wrong" for us to be here19:54 - Moving to the new art hub: Wong Chuk Hang24:30 - The unique opportunities for artists in Hong Kong29:46 - The challenge of finding the right gallery38:22 - Nance’s legacy and final messageQUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:"I like to say this: A lot of things had to go right and a few things had to go wrong for us to have this conversation." - Nance"I think creativity is just like part of your existence. It's like breathing. I don't think there's a point where I could say, 'I've become creative.'" - NanceABOUT THE GUEST:Nance is a Hong Kong-based artist and digital designer known for her layered, textured work that explores the "journey" of life. Moving from the UK to Hong Kong, she now works out of the up-and-coming art district of Wong Chuk Hang.📸 Instagram: @by_nanceABOUT THE HOST:Alex See is on a mission to make Hong Kong a place where artists and creatives can thrive. Through Making It, Alex interviews the minds shaping the culture to uncover what it takes to succeed in the creative industries.CONNECT WITH US:Subscribe for more conversations on creativity and the Hong Kong art scene!📸 Instagram: @makingitwithalexsee