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Messy Genes

Two Sisters. Too opinionated. Zero Clue.We’re Carly and Cindy, and we were raised to be obedient, modest, and quiet. Instead, we got divorced, left the Mormon church, and started a podcast. Messy Genes is where we unpack everything from religious deconstruction to dating after 7-20 years of marriage—with a lot of sarcasm, sister banter, and oversharing along the way. If you've ever been labeled “too much,” “too loud,” or just plain “too messy,” you're in the right place. Grab a drink and join us as we laugh, rant, and unlearn the stuff we were told was sacred.

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    Hott n' Messy

    Send a textDiscovering Confident Hotness and Unconventional Self-LoveIn this episode of 'Messy Genes,' sisters Cindy and Carly delve into their personal lives and share an array of humorous and profound stories touching on self-confidence, sibling dynamics, and historical tidbits. They navigate through funny Instagram comments, playful history lessons, and even some unexpected and risqué discussions, including hair catching fire at a sex party. Additionally, listeners contribute by sharing unconventional things that make them feel hot, ranging from fashion choices to acts of kindness, providing a colorful mix of inspiring and laugh-out-loud moments. Tune in for a rollercoaster of emotions, laughter, and unapologetic conversation.00:00 Sisterly Bonding and Banter00:27 The Utah Spelling Debate01:40 Medieval Times and Hotmail Memories04:34 Boardroom Confessions05:31 Testimonies and Mormon Culture18:20 Unconventional Hotness38:52 Listener Submissions39:23 Hilarious Mom Jokes39:54 Free Balling in Slacks40:30 Unconventional Things That Make Us Feel Hot45:10 Smoking and Lipstick47:34 Affectionate Straight Men and Toy Reviews49:34 Bouncing Ponytails and Nude Beaches51:48 Juicy Fruits and Feet Fetishes54:40 Ignoring Men and Movie Theater Makeouts57:23 Cooking for a Date01:12:00 Romanticizing the Little Things01:14:51 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

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    The Birds, the Bees and Messy Genes

    Send a textMessy Genes: Uncovering Awkward Sex Education Stories and Overcoming Religious StigmasIn this candid and humorously insightful episode, sisters Cindy and Carly share personal anecdotes and listener stories about their experiences with sex education, or lack thereof, while growing up in a conservative, religious environment. From discovering misinformation about sex, dealing with awkward parental 'sex talks', and the personal journey of overcoming shame and taboo topics, this episode dives deep into the impact of religious teachings on sexuality, consent, and personal growth. As they navigate these sensitive topics, Cindy and Carly emphasize the importance of open communication, enthusiastic consent, and self-education in creating a healthier and more open approach towards sex and relationships.00:00 Sisterly Bonding and Weekend Adventures00:26 Concert Chaos and Lost Phone Drama06:17 Podcast Studio and Serious Topics07:14 Rave Experience and Mother-Daughter Moments10:21 NXIVM Cult Connection and ELF Cosmetics13:18 The S*x Talk and Growing Up Mormon25:52 Listener Stories: Awkward S*x Education31:50 Embarrassing School Story32:43 Misconceptions and Confidence34:08 The Impact of Repression35:18 First Time Experiences38:34 Lack of Proper Education41:53 Parental Conversations46:16 Misguided Beliefs48:31 The Importance of Open Communication58:11 Funny Misunderstandings01:10:07 Healing and Moving Forward

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    Messy Faves

    Send a textOur Favorite Things: Family Reunion, Unhinged Purchases, and Empathy RedefinedIn this episode of 'Messy Genes,' Carly and Cindy discuss their recent family reunion filled with light-hearted chaos, memorable events, and the humorously unfiltered recounting of their slightly tipsy family dinner. They dive into some of their favorite quirky purchases from TikTok shops and revel in the simple pleasures like Mexican candy binges. The sisters candidly explore personal validation methods, favorite beauty routines, and how meaningful life reminders can ground them. From the joy of Botox to the therapeutic nature of solo dance parties, the episode balances raw authenticity with fun, bringing listeners into Carly and Cindy's uniquely vibrant world.00:00 Sisterly Bonding and Family Reunion Recap00:41 Family Dinner Shenanigans03:02 Travel Tales and Reunion Reflections05:49 Podcast Updates and Listener Love07:32 Upcoming Rave Excitement11:12 Neighborhood Wildlife Adventures14:30 Favorite Things and Unhinged Purchases19:00 Feeling Hot and Confident22:15 Housewife Therapy and Dancing22:48 Favorite Quotes and Memes24:39 Shower and Moisturizing Routine28:34 Botox and Skincare33:05 Humorous Insults and Drinking Stories35:33 Dream Jobs and Coping Skills40:13 Pet Peeves and Communication44:00 Random Favorites and Conclusion

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    Messy Mormonism: Leave Laugh Live

    Send a textNavigating Faith and Identity: Our Deconstruction JourneyIn this episode of 'Messy Genes,' Cindy and Carly embark on a candid and emotional dialogue about leaving the Mormon Church, wrestling with faith, and finding their personal identity outside of religion. Carly opens up about her initial doubts sparked by her husband’s questioning and the eventual unraveling of their devout beliefs. Cindy recalls her emotional ride through her own faith crisis, exacerbated by her sister’s departure and navigating her own path while undergoing intense therapy. Woven into the narrative are humorous reflections on Mormon fashion and the sisterly bond that stood the test of this transformative period in their lives.00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter00:31 Podcast Setup Struggles01:25 Hair Talk and Personal Grooming02:13 Welcome to Messy Genes02:35 Leaving the Church: A Unique Topic03:06 C*nty Stories of the Week03:13 Tripping on Ac*d: A Personal Experience11:51 Quitting Nicotine: A Personal Journey17:33 Leaving the Mormon Church: Personal Stories18:31 Mormon Fashion Disasters42:07 Existential Crisis and Identity Struggle42:53 Revealing the Truth to Family43:20 Impact on Relationships and Personal Journals43:58 A Monumental Shift: Wheeler Farm Incident46:55 The Email That Changed Everything48:40 Processing Faith and Personal Revelation55:01 Family Reactions and Emotional Turmoil01:00:23 Questioning the Church and Seeking Truth01:14:12 Therapy and Self-Discovery01:19:45 A New Beginning: Embracing Change

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    Messy Dating: "We Don't Want This."

    Send a text Welcome back to our Messy Dating Series! Disasters and Dream DatesCarly and Cindy dive into their hilarious, cringe-worthy, and sometimes shocking dating stories. They discuss quirky dating experiences, odd hookups, and encounters with unsavory characters. Listeners contribute their own tales, including everything from awkward drug deal dates to white supremacy rallies, highlighting the wide range of dating horrors that people endure. The sisters also reflect on their ideal first dates, emphasizing the importance of a well-planned, assertive, and enjoyable experience. They wrap up by urging listeners to rate, review, and share the podcast to make ‘Messy Genes’ their full-time gig.00:00 Introduction and Sisterly Bond00:24 Underwear Confessions03:23 Podcast Feedback and Singing Memories06:43 Love Island Drama19:54 Crazy Dating Stories32:53 Arrested Development and Awkward Dates33:51 A Scary Date in Provo Canyon35:51 Men's Fears vs. Women's Realities48:03 A Bizarre Date with a Toothbrush50:09 From Mormonism to Evangelical Christianity51:52 Artificially Inseminating Reindeer56:01 A Traumatic Experience with Marines01:02:48 Dream Dates and Final Thoughts

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    Messy Dating Series: Roasting, Ghosting & Mostly Coping

    Send a textWelcome to the first episode in our Messy Dating Series: Roasting, Ghosting & Mostly Coping.Decoding Dating Apps: Red Flags, Green Flags, and Epic FailsIn this episode of Messy Genes, hosts Cindy and Carly tackle the chaotic world of online dating profiles. They dissect the art of creating an appealing dating profile by reviewing and hilariously roasting real-life examples. From selfie overloads and gym bros to earnest romancers and disturbing mommy issues, no cringe-worthy profile is safe. They also offer insightful tips for men on how to elevate their dating game through better photos and witty bios. Plus, they share some personal anecdotes and behind-the-scenes details from their own dating experiences. Follow them on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and Substack, and don't forget to leave those much-appreciated reviews! @Messy_genes on Instagram and Tik Tok. https://substack.com/@messygenes00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter00:29 Welcome to Messy Jeans01:02 Today's Topic: Dating Profiles02:42 Weekly Updates and Personal Stories09:53 Green Flags in Men19:47 Red Flags in Men30:06 Analyzing Dating Profiles33:28 Cringe Dating Profiles: Kids and Nephews34:25 Bitter Men and Their Profiles35:29 Weird Photos and Selfies36:45 Hilarious Profile Reviews46:47 Voice Notes and Embarrassment55:21 Tips for Better Dating Profiles01:05:14 Final Thoughts and Farewell

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    Let Them Be Messy: Leaving the Mormon Church as a Teen

    Send a textIn this episode of Messy Genes hosts Carly and Cindy bring on a special guest, Carly's daughter, Cadence, to discuss their experiences leaving the church. The trio explores the complexities of faith transitions, parenting teens through such changes, and the impact on friendships and personal growth. They candidly talk about Cadence's journey of self-discovery, her evolving beliefs, the adjustments in parenting strategies post-church, and the newfound freedom that comes with leaving organized religion. Sprinkled with humor and heartfelt reflections, this episode provides an insightful look into the challenges and joys of living life authentically after a significant religious shift.00:00 Introduction and Banter00:31 Special Guest: Cadence01:08 Cadence's Story: Leaving the Church02:00 Social Media and Bernedoodles03:58 Gym Routines and Sleep Struggles06:11 Cadence's Nannying and Spa Jobs09:39 Mormon Culture and Personal Reflections30:21 The Sex Talk and Friendships42:28 Questioning Religious Beliefs43:06 Embracing Uncertainty43:31 Toxic Relationships and Personal Growth44:03 Navigating High School During COVID45:03 Parenting Through Change47:04 Open Communication and Trust50:01 Teenage Rebellion and Acceptance57:34 Privacy and Independence01:05:27 Music and Personal Beliefs01:11:48 Advice for Parents Leaving the Church01:21:33 Concluding Thoughts and Farewells

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    Messy Mormon Men: Priesthood Authority? More like Penishood Audacity

    Send a textIn this episode of the 'Messy Genes' podcast, hosts Carly and Cindy engage in lively banter and humorous anecdotes about their personal journeys and recent hectic schedules. They dive into a collection of outrageous and often shocking experiences shared by listeners regarding interactions with Mormon men. Topics range from inappropriate comments and behavior to the pressures and absurdities linked to religious expectations. The episode also touches on serious issues like sexual assault, with added light-hearted moments as the hosts lampoon the eccentricities and bizarre attitudes they've encountered. Trigger warnings are given for sensitive content.00:00 Introduction and Setup03:09 Welcome to Messy Genes03:41 Weekly Struggles and Podcast Challenges05:17 Cunty Positives and Negatives09:07 Personal Stories and Experiences12:22 Crazy Mormon Men13:48 Crazy Things Mormon Men Have Said13:57 Personal Stories of Audacity19:03 Embarrassing and Outrageous Moments23:07 Sexual Assault and Trigger Warnings27:50 Masturbation and Mission Presidents29:39 Hurtful Words from Family

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    Messy Moms: Not Your Mormon Motherhood Manual

    Send a textIn this episode of Messy Genes, we throw the Mormon motherhood manual straight into the fire. Carly and Cindy unpack the myths, pressure, and pedestal that shaped our parenting scripts—and how we’re unlearning it all. From "motherhood as divine destiny" to the shame-soaked standards of being the perfect mom, we’re talking about what it's like to parent after leaving high-demand religion. Expect raw stories, dark humor, and zero eternal consequences. If you're navigating deconstruction, post-Mormon life, or just trying to raise kids without losing your mind—this one's for you.

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    Messy, Divorced & Finally Free (from Mormonism too)

    Send a textCindy and Carly are talking the D-word. DIVORCE. We discuss a bit about our own divorces, what we thought about divorce pre faith crises, how Mormons view divorce, what it's like telling family and friends, how we navigated the challenges, what we're loving post divorce life and so much more. Please give us a follow over at @messy_genes on Instagram.And Substack. Don't forget to subscribe and review! And SHARE!

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Two Sisters. Too opinionated. Zero Clue.We’re Carly and Cindy, and we were raised to be obedient, modest, and quiet. Instead, we got divorced, left the Mormon church, and started a podcast. Messy Genes is where we unpack everything from religious deconstruction to dating after 7-20 years of marriage—with a lot of sarcasm, sister banter, and oversharing along the way. If you've ever been labeled “too much,” “too loud,” or just plain “too messy,” you're in the right place. Grab a drink and join us as we laugh, rant, and unlearn the stuff we were told was sacred.

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Carly and Cindy

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Two Sisters. Too opinionated. Zero Clue.We’re Carly and Cindy, and we were raised to be obedient, modest, and quiet. Instead, we got divorced, left the Mormon church, and started a podcast. Messy Genes is where we unpack everything from religious deconstruction to dating after 7-20 years of...

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