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Metamuse

by Adam Wiggins, Mark McGranaghan

Tools for thought, product design, and how to have good ideas.

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  1. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Something I really admire about Tokyo is that they are able to, while it’s a very desirable place to live, the housing costs in Tokyo are actually not that high, and people are pretty liberal...

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    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Rather than giving someone this hermetically sealed box, can we use an analogy like build a beautiful Lego set for them and hand it to them, where if they like it just as it is, that’s fine.…

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  3. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: That to me was the magic of the iPad, the direct manipulation of the iPad with my hands. It just felt so human in a way that the computers and even the phone never did. 00:00:19 - Speaker 2:...

  4. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: You start with some seeds of an idea. Basically, it might be some sketches or a picture of a whiteboard you took or a voice memo, and what you want to end up with is, say, an essay, and…

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  5. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Maybe the past generation of programmers were sort of subjected to a really awful version of visual programming, but it would be really sad to let that frustration that other people have felt...

  6. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I view my job here is to essentially aggregate this group of entrepreneurs that a lot of the world is overlooking, aggregate them in some way, listen to them, and then build what they want....

  7. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I really wish there are more ways in which we can let our personality and just the little bits of life that we’ve experienced ourselves come through online. It seems like nowadays a lot of the...

  8. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: It was important for us that people be able to reach this level of partnership, which again is a group of peers, even if they weren’t there at the founding of the company. 00:00:21 - Speaker…

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  9. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Also, in your field that you say, OK, I need this programmer with this designer and together with them and the right vision, we can build something. I think it’s very similar with film...

  10. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: And I feel like this idea of really changes the abstractions that operating systems should provide because maybe OSs should not just be providing this model of files as a sequence of bytes…

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  11. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Building my own tools, when I type a character in or hit save, I know exactly where the bits are going, and I think that changes the relationship that you have with your software. There’s kind...

  12. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: One of the characters is a poet that evokes much emotion with his work, and one of his fans asks, how do you do it? How do you come up with these words that are so moving? And he says, well…

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  13. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: We both really, really like writing and are good at it, and care a lot about the written quality of the product, and we both also have this product DNA where we’ve built software products...

  14. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: So I do think it’s a really tough sell for classic native apps into the enterprise. Now there is another market which you might call independent creative professionals, and these buyers value...

  15. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: And I don’t hold this against Apple or anybody else. There are billions of people on Earth who need great computers, and most of them are not scientists or authors or policymakers, but we...

  16. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think complexity gets a bad rap because I think a lot of times people think complexity is the opposite of simple and everyone loves simple because simple is elegant. How do you have your...

  17. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: There’s been very little innovation and research more generally into what is a good interface for inputting equations. So I think most people are probably familiar with Microsoft Word or Excel...

  18. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Which by the way, something that’s a little bit unique to digital systems versus classic analog systems, you know, if your wrench is rusty or doesn’t work as well, but it still basically works...

  19. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Also something that makes it very unique is this like you’re you’re basically floating through space and you’re zooming deeper into your hierarchy and all of this is like a perfect illusion of...

  20. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: When I think of real world analogies to this, like supporting a painter or a ceramicist or like glass making that’s kind of handmade, usually those things are more expensive than the Walmart...

  21. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: What I look for when I’m hiring designers or what’s the experience of encountering a stranger on the internet. I like this phrase proof of curiosity. Is this person curious about the world…

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  22. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: A product launch needs to prepare and calibrate the potential user for how much the world is going to get shaken up by this thing. So Muse 2, it’s still muse, but it’s a major version change…

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  23. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: People are drawn to you for your specific skill set that only you can fill. There’s a U-shaped hole in the universe and you’ve created that gravitational pull that people find you. And I think...

  24. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Support is one important way that you’re understanding how customers are experiencing the product and what you should be doing differently going forward. And at a more human and personal…

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  25. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: The iPad is the perfect device of being able to immerse yourself and just being able to explore versus the Mac is all about getting things done and about speed and efficiency. If we embrace...

  26. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: But this totally changes how the data is persisted, and I think that’s important because the only way you get good results on sync systems, especially when you’re talking about offline versus...

  27. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Titles of books are probably one of the best sources of inspiration for messaging. Book covers are so inspiring to me because it’s a visual and a title and the title’s so short and it captures...

  28. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: It’s part of the foundational history of sketch of like facing this enormous monopolistic late 2000s Adobe, and now that the sketch success and define the category in the market, which then in...

  29. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Infinite canvases are essentially like a different document format. The screen represents a camera that’s floating above a surface, and there are things on that surface, and those things can…

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  30. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: On the academic side, you’re very limited by your work has to fit in the box of like a peer reviewed quantifiable research paper and in the commercial world, it needs to be commercializable in...

  31. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think designing is just the process of picking the best option that you have gone through, but you need to go through that process. The more time that that process takes and the more…

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  32. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: This ends up becoming a question about file standards more than it does about application functionality. I can take a notion document and fairly easily translate that into a text file, a very...

  33. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: You want to achieve mastery in some sense in your life. So all these things come together and for some people, community becomes very addictive. I’ve certainly been in communities about…

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  34. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think every platform kind of has this tipping point where you start to see like, hey, this feature, this product is getting a lot of traction, and people building on any platform should...

  35. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Here’s my number one tip for listeners of this podcast episode. The most unreasonably effective thing to do in recruiting is to move quickly, especially as a small company where you have the...

  36. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: You can also be notified just based on an algorithm, you know, if somebody files something that’s similar to your trademark to trigger a notification to you. The interesting thing about the...

  37. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I remember the last time we did a paid upgrade, we had a feature done for almost a year before we actually shipped it because we knew it’s such a huge feature that will bring in new customers...

  38. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: As software developers, maybe we go towards building a GUI with specialized inputs and forms and controls too soon, because it’s so much easier to explain to the computer what the user means…

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  39. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: The importance of solo activity in the ideation process. This is not well supported in existing tools. I think it’s so important that you have a place where you’re just thinking by yourself....

  40. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: You’re saying come dream with me a little, and if you get too much into the fantasy world, it becomes almost religious, and that’s where you get something like a WeWork happening. But when you...

  41. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: One thing that really stood out to me reading the original research article was that so many pieces of software I try out, they don’t really feel inspired, doesn’t feel like there was like a...

  42. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: We can do the basics that Spotlight can do, but also much better. We invested a lot in the speed to make it faster to launch. We invested in file search to search files in a more predictable...

  43. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: One of the luxuries of industrial research is that you’re not bound to the traditional rigor and neutrality required of academic research or just science in general. We’re allowed to have an...

  44. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Everyone gets into a room, you have a brainstorm and out comes the ideas. The reality is so much messier. You have individual to group back again, you’re bouncing around among individuals,...

  45. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: There are a lot of other projects that have very similar models to this dynamic land database, but it definitely pushed me to think a lot more in terms of having state exposed by default,...

  46. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: It’s very common that you want 3 views. You want a view which is temporal, what is the team working on this week? You want a view that’s personal, what is Mark thinking about right now? What...

  47. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Often when you ask an expert who’s accumulated a large amount of experiential data around a problem area, they’re fabricating an answer. They actually have way more information than they could...

  48. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: My experience as a team lead is that if your team is aligned going into a project, you get this incredible execution. It’s fun to do, you know, maybe hard work, but you’re all rowing in the…

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  49. Untitled Episode

    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think you can think of writing on the internet as a beacon, as a way to signal yourself to other like-minded people. These pieces of yourself that you put out on the internet, and they allow...

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    Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: To borrow the Hobbit, one does not simply build a new sync layer. You start with a product and you want to build a sync layer, and now you have two products. You had a huge undertaking to…

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Tools for thought, product design, and how to have good ideas.

HOSTED BY

Adam Wiggins, Mark McGranaghan

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