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Modo di Bere: Wine & Language
by Rose Thomas Bannister
The podcast about wine and language and the people who keep local culture alive. Travel through regional cultures from Calabria, to Texas, to Tuscany, to New York, learning about new drinks and dialects from wine educator Rose Thomas Bannister and her fascinating friends.
Episodes
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S5E4 Nigeria vs North Adriatic - Wine Doc Face Off
RT and Emila are back with a bottle of ultra-rare Scaglin from the North Adriatic and a story about a Nigerian palm wine spirit that will make you feel like you've boarded the tiny motorboat to your next adventure. We need your support to finish Modo di Bere TV! 🍷Go to ko-fi.com/mododibere to...
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S5E3 Piemonte vs The Dolomites - Wine Doc Face Off
"It's like March Madness, but for wine documentaries"—from the rolling hills of Alba and Asti to the dolomitic alps of Trentino-Alto Adige. Help us finish our wine travel show! www.mododibere.com Emilia Aghamirzai is my cohost for Season 5, a special behind-the-scenes travel adventure series in...
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S5E2 Texas vs Calabria - Wine Doc Face Off
Note: The contest between Texas and Calabria has already concluded--Calabria won! Listen to learn more about Texas wine and Texas German, baking biscuits and grilling steaks by the fire on the High Plains, eating explodingly-ripe persimmons in Calabria, documenting the oral history of Arbëreshë…
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S5E1 Wine Doc Face Off
Support Modo di Bere TV! 🍷🎥 Announcing a special season of the Modo di Bere podcast with cohost Emilia Aghamirzai. The two friends have been traveling the world for the last three years in search of local drinks and local sayings for their travel show, Modo di Bere TV. Watch the Trailer…
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S4E14 Tazzelenghe: the "Tongue-Cutter" Wine
Fabio is one of eight producers making wine from Tazzelenghe. Thanks to Fabio and his friends, this ultra-rare Friulian red wine grape is the rise. The name means "The Tongue-Cutter" in the local dialect. The grape has an enormous personality, packed with complexity, acid, and tannin. Before…
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S4E13 Wayne Young Wants You to Drink Refosco
Wayne Young's show La Taverna is more than just a podcast; it's an oral history of the wines of Friuli-Venezia Giulia. Through interviews with the winemakers of this beautiful region in northeast Italy, some in English, some in Italian, Wayne is bottling the story of the region he loves so much…
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EN S4E12 Cheryl Kingan, Student of Liquids
When she's not playing the baritone sax, Cheryl Kingan sells wine in New York City. She previously worked in specialty coffee for many years. Cheryl's interest in drinks is not only culinary: this passion has naturally led her to advocate for sustainable agriculture and community development. She...
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S4E11 Italian Wine vs. American Fall & Winter Holidays
Late-year American holidays are all about fat: gravy, casserole, cheese stretching between the utensil and the mac and cheese. Bygone traditional foodways, virtually extinct, land on the holiday table and gleam with gravitas. These moments scream for wines high in acid, tannin, and flavor, to…
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S4E10 Felipe Muñoz of Yola Mezcal
NYC bartender and brand ambassador Felipe Muñoz illuminates mezcal’s sense of place. Unlike crops that mature in a single growing season, agave plants grow for years or decades before being harvested for mezcal. Felipe shares what it’s like to work as a brand ambassador for the…
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S4E9 Stefan Kisyov's Glagolitic Novel
The Hagiographer is a historical fiction novel about the 9th century philosopher who invented the Glagolitic alphabet and his rogue biographer. I was riding the New York City subway when I ran into my friend Vlada Tomova, who runs a Bulgarian woman's choir. She was with the Bulgarian writer…
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S4E8 Serena Jost and the Mountain
Visionary cellist and composer Serena Jost grew up between Switzerland and Michigan, speaking the Swiss German language with her family and climbing up on the roof with a homemade radio antennae to take in the sounds of languages she didn't know. Serena writes lyrics that are poetic rather than...
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S4E7 The Boot in 20: Friuli-Venezia Giulia, with Paul Balke
The sheer exuberance of Paul Balke's devotion to Italian wine regions bubbles up like a glass of prosecco—which, we learn in this episode, did not originate in Veneto, but rather in the village of Prosek, near Trieste. This special, double-size installment of The Boot in 20 is a true deep dive....
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S4E6 My Husband's Duolingo Obsession (Bonus Episode Preview)
Rose Thomas Bannister's husband, Bob, has a 2100 day Duolingo streak. For a while, he was doing 14 languages a day. But is he "conversational"? Is he fluent? Does that matter? Access the exclusive full interview by becoming a paid supporter at patreon.com/mododibere. When he's not collecting...
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S4E5 Sibling Harmony at Georgian Royal Wine
Ineza Karalashvili has been making wine in the Kakheti region of Georgia for over sixty years, together with her brother Tamaz. Their family has been making and selling wine for generations before that, with forebears among the influential "Merchants of the First Guild" in the nineteenth century....
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S4E4 How to Swirl with Glasvin Founder David Kong
David Kong loved drinking wine out of expensive handblown glasses but hated the sinking feeling every time one got broken. He wanted a handblown wine glass at a more accessible price, so started his own company to make it exist! David is a lifelong foodie and classical music fan who always wanted...
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S4E3 The Heart of a Language: William Cisilino talks Friulano
William Cisilino is the director of ARLeF, an organization that promotes the Friulian language. He is a leading expert and advocate for linguistic diversity. Dr Cisilino and Rose Thomas discuss the health of the Friulano language today, both in northeastern Italy and around the world. He teaches...
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S4E2 Love from Solid Rock at Lokanda Devetak
When Tatjana Devetak's grandfather said he wanted to carve a world-class wine cellar out of the solid rock of the Karst plateau, everyone said he was crazy. "Who will come to see it?" people said, as he carved each stone by hand. Then the excavation uncovered a trench from World War I, buried…
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S4E1 Raw Shrimp in Venice
Rose Thomas Bannister, who was just honored as one of Wine Enthusiast Magazine's 2025 Future Forty tastemakers, reads "Raw Shrimp in Venice," the second part of her travel story about her first trip to Venice. A pretty but lonely afternoon gives way to a seafood adventure and a midnight boat ride...
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S3E13 Uranio: the Unconfine-able Album by Ou
Ou has a new album, Uranio! Amy Denio translates for composer Ersilia Prosperi, and speaks for herself as Ersilia's producer and bandmate in the dynamic, multilingual band Ou. The theme music of the Modo di Bere podcast comes from Ou's album Pisces Crisis. You can purchase Ou's first two albums…
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S3E12 The Boot in 20: Marche (with Tiziana Forni)
For the Boot in 20 series, an expert brings an Italian wine region to life, talking grapes, wines, climate and tradition–and advice for planning a visit! For the Marche, Rose Thomas interviews Tiziana Forni, a native of Ancona and a wine professional who specializes in Italian wines. Tiziana...
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S3E11 BONUS EP PREVIEW Italian Slang and American Cheese with Giulia Álvarez-Katz
Deep cuts from Modo di Bere's interview with novelist, food writer and videomaker Giulia Álvarez-Katz. To hear the full episode, go to patreon.com/mododibere and become a supporter at the Podcast Lover level. Longtime fans of the podcast will remember Giulia's interview from Season 2 Episode 10....
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S3E10 "The Woman Can": Angela and Marianna of Velenosi Wine
Angela and Marianna Velenosi discuss the local wine grapes of Marche and Abruzzo, describing the history, flavors and names of white grapes like Verdicchio, Pecorino, and Trebbiano, and red grapes like Montepulciano and Lacrima. Hear some local sayings from Abruzzo, where Angela is from, and...
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S3E9 The Flyaway Girl at Home in Gibraltar
Travel creator Penelope aka The Flyaway Girl shares the romantic story of how she came home to Gibraltar. From the sound of Llanito, the local language, to the flavor of frozen Sun Cola in a sawed-off carton, Penelope paints a delicious picture of the territory built on a historic rock. This is...
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S3E8 "You Have to Like Yourself," says Abe Zarate, Sober Sommelier
When Abe Zarate chose sobriety during the pandemic, he returned to his restaurant career with a new reality. Abe shares the logistics of working around alcohol without consuming it. This episode is a frank discussion about what it's like for wine professionals who decide to consume less alcohol.…
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S3E7 Brian Gelletly, Barista Trainer, Spits Out His Favorite Drinks
Brian Gelletly is a barista trainer with a sensitivity to caffeine. Brian and Rose Thomas share the secrets of beverage professionals who spend their days spitting out their favorite drinks In Modo di Bere's first episode about coffee. They divulge specific spitting techniques, from spittoon…
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S3E6 Wine Faults and Flaws with Dr. Rachel B. Allison (Part 2)
When the waiter pours a taste of wine for you and it's your job to inspect that wine for flaws, while the sommelier and your fellow dinner guests look on, this episode is your guide to how to taste that wine with confidence. Wine flavor scientist Dr. Rachel B. Allison and Rose Thomas go over the...
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S3E5 Blind Tasting with Dr. Rachel B. Allison, Wine Flavor Scientist (Part 1)
Blind tasting—deducing the grape, age and geographic origin of a wine based on sensory analysis alone—can seem like the wine world’s most mystical practice. Wine flavor scientist Dr. Rachel B. Allison came on the Modo di Bere podcast to break down exactly how it’s done. You can watch Dr. Allison...
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S3E4 The Revolutionary Donkey: Sicilian Folk Music History with Michela Musolino
You can wash a donkey’s head, but you’ll waste your water, your soap, and your time. If you have a woman, a drum, and a duck, you have a revolution. You’ve got more horns than a chariot full of snails. Do you want to know what these sayings mean? Do you think donkeys are cute? Do you like…
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S3E3 BONUS EP PREVIEW: Michele Thomas Reads Her Memoir Essay "Under Construction" (Excerpt)
This is just a preview of our Patreon-exclusive bonus episode. You can listen to the entire episode, and watch the full video, by becoming a supporter at the Podcast Lover level. Just visit the link patreon.com/mododibere in your web browser to sign up and unlock this bonus content. "Under...
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S3E2 Shift Drink: Michele Thomas on Writing Wine & Working Retail
Michele Thomas is a writer, sommelier and the manager and buyer at a neighborhood wine shop in Brooklyn. RT and Michele are old friends from RT's wine rep days. They get together to dish about the purpose of tasting notes, the art of wine writing, and how to welcome new drinkers into the world of...
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S3E1 Funny Toasts From Around the World
Calabrian rhyming toasts. A drinking song from Padua. Kinetic toasts from France and Spain. Taiwanese dialect for “Bottoms up!” Modo di Bere host Rose Thomas shares funny drinking sayings from around the world in the Season Three trailer for the podcast about local drinks and local sayings. Never...
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S2E12 Venice Spritz Magic
Rose Thomas spills the prosecco on Italian swears, her favorite Italian gesture, the ultimate spritz recipe, and the bartender travel advice that could cure your ennui. This travel story episode reveals more background about the name "Modo di Bere" and RT's frame of mind as she claimed permission...
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S2E11 A Lot of Life to Live: Sam Bail's Post-Alcohol Community
Sam Bail was feeling better. So much better that two months into her sobriety experiment, she knew she wasn’t going back to drinking alcohol. But she missed her softball team, and all the other relationships she made at her local watering hole—her “third place,” where she socialized when not at...
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S2E10 New York is the Place for Giulia Álvarez-Katz
The gustatory glory of multicultural NYC has been food writer Giulia Álvarez-Katz's stomping ground for as long as she can remember. Rose Thomas dusts off her mixology skills with a custom Third Place cocktail in honor of Giulia's video series about the places where New Yorkers loiter, shoot the...
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S2E9 Michaele Weissman on the Meaning of Bread
In her literary memoir The Rye Bread Marriage, author and food writer Michaele Weissman turns her skills with history, psychology and adventure to her own family story. This interview begins with the travel story that led to Michaele's seminal book on specialty coffee. It goes on to describe the...
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S2E8 Sparkling Wine from The Mountains: Trento DOC with Alessandra Caroni
As an advocate for small growers with her company Wine Soul, Alessandra Caroni educates us about Trento DOC, a sparkling wine made in the classic method from grapes grown in the Dolomite Mountains. Maso Martis is the organic brand she represents in Trento DOC. These wines from the Northern…
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S2E7 Avery Robinson Wants a Rye Revolution
Culinary historian and bakery manager Avery Robinson works with a nonprofit called Rye Revival, encouraging people to plant and enjoy more rye. Avery explains what’s special about rye for ecology, distillation, nutrition and cultural connection. He shares Yiddish drinking sayings and thoughts on...
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S2E6 The Boot in 20: Lombardia, with Susannah Gold
Susannah Gold returns as the expert on Lombardia for the Modo di Bere series The Boot in 20. For each of Italy's 20 wine regions, Rose Thomas asks an expert to bring the map to life, identifying major grapes, wines, soils and microclimates. Susannah tells stories about the region's history,...
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S2E5 Sublime Memories: Food and Wine Pairing with Joyce Lin
A conversation with Joyce Lin, sommelier, artist and food and wine pairing specialist. Joyce grew up in Taiwan and resides in New York City. She is a creative educator on social media, YouTube and her website, sipwithjoyce.com. Whether you prefer wine, cocktails, beer or bubble tea, there's...
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S2E4 Through Bacco’s Door: Nobile News from Montepulciano
Rose Thomas interviews Andrea Rossi, president of the Consorzio of Vino Nobile di Montepulciano. Silvia Loriga, who works at the Consorzio, translates for Andrea. She also describes the medieval city where she was born in such a captivating fashion, Rose Thomas planned a trip to walk through the...
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S2E3 Mesa by Mesa: Advice from Diné Artist Elmer Yazzie
Rose Thomas reports from a month on the road for Modo di Bere, a trip that’s taking her from Texas to New Mexico to Italy. After sharing a phrase from Salerno that she was taught by winemaker Silvia Imparato, RT relays similar advice from Elmer Yazzie, an artist and teacher who recently organized...
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S2E2 Texas Wine with Shelly Wilfong
Shelly Wilfong, host of the podcast This is Texas Wine, takes Rose Thomas through the map of the USA's fifth-largest wine producing state. Rose Thomas likes Shelly's podcast so much, she scheduled a trip to Texas to learn more. Texas is larger than France, with diverse terroirs, beautiful tasting...
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S2E1 Hangover Sayings From Around the World
Bestial states, the "girly glass," and the Sicilian sunset welcome you to Season 2 of Modo di Bere! Rose Thomas returns from a summer of research and adventure, kicking off the season with a collection of hangover sayings from around the world. Rose Thomas defines "modo di bere" and shares her...
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S1E12 The Raw Rush of Survival: Wine Tour Driving with Rose Thomas
On the road for Modo di Bere, Rose Thomas records the story of how she overcame her trepidation about driving in Italy and Spain and embraced the thrill of the wine tour driving that brings her such adventures as meeting mules at midnight on a mountaintop in the Sierra Nevadas. She shares the...
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S1E11 Glass on the Table: the Multi-Instru-Lingualism of Ou
Ersilia Prosperi, the composer of the Modo di Bere theme music, and her illustrious producer Amy Denio play together in Ou, a band that sings in a myriad of dialects. This episode includes clips of Ersilia's compositions for Ou in Spanish, Italian, French, Sardo, and Pygmy. Ersilia, Amy and Rose...
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S1E10 The Boot in 20: Campania, with Susannah Gold
Why does Rose Thomas joke that Italy is "sommelier kryptonite"? Is there hope for wine students staring down this complex country? Of course there is! Enter the new Modo di Bere sub-series The Boot in 20. For each of Italy's 20 wine regions, Rose Thomas asks an expert to bring the map to life.…
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S1E9 Language is a Door: Lindsay Szper of Culture Without Borders (Part 2)
Are children really better at learning language than adults? Is an unknown language a "barrier," or a door to another culture? What is an idiom, anyway? Lindsay Szper and Rose Thomas refer to Hannah Arendt on the mother tongue, James Baldwin on good bread, and the power of friendship to learn a...
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S1E8 ”What I Need is a Friend”: Lindsay Szper of Culture Without Borders (Part 1)
Lindsay Szper and her pals believe the best way to learn language is through friendship. Modo di Bere agrees! Lindsay is a language teacher and a language learner by vocation. She’s studying language pedagogy at The New School and working on a masters in Oral History at Columbia. In this deep,...
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S1E7 Wine Makes Blood: Sicilian-American Folksinger Michela Musolino
As a drummer, storyteller, singer and culture-keeper, Michela Musolino is heir to sacerdotesse, the Sicilian priestesses depicted on ancient vessels leading the party with their jingle-bedazzled drums. As a Sicilian-American child in New Jersey, Michela couldn't stand not understanding what all…
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S1E6 Taste Wine Like a Professional: Embrace the Spittoon
A happily exhausted Rose Thomas, still in Verona for the Vinitaly fair, records an episode of wine fair wisdom, including: Verona taxi tips, how to spit, how to pack for an Italian wine fair, how to find balance, and how to joyfully accept that there's no "winning" Italian wine knowledge--the...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The podcast about wine and language and the people who keep local culture alive. Travel through regional cultures from Calabria, to Texas, to Tuscany, to New York, learning about new drinks and dialects from wine educator Rose Thomas Bannister and her fascinating friends.
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