More than the Score

Jose Mourinho has been appointed as manager of Real Madrid for a second time, 14 years after leading them to the La Liga title. The "Special One" has one of the most formidable reputations in world football - but it's been more than a decade since he last won a league title. His last two managerial roles, at Fenerbahce and Benfica, both ended without trophies. More than the Score's John Bennett is joined by BBC pundit Pat Nevin and Spanish football journalist Eduardo Alvarez to analyse Mourinho's return to Madrid, and whether he can still get the best out of superstars like Kylian Mbappe, Jude Bellingham and Vinicius Junior. Former Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon also gives his verdict on whether Mourinho is the right man for the job.Plus, Robert Huth and Chris Smalling give their insights into how Mourinho runs a dressing room, and we get perspectives from Portugal and Italy with journalists Duarte Monteiro and Daniele Verri.Unexpected questions and beyond the scoresheet chat. More than the Score tells stories from all over the world of sport. From Formula One to netball, MMA to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels.And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

Tadej Pogacar has dominated the Tour de France once again, and now has his sights set on this year's Vuelta a Espana - the only one of cycling's triple crown races he's yet to win. Few would bet against him taking that title too. But how has one man become the dominant force in one of the world's most notoriously gruelling sports - and does anyone have a hope of stopping him?Jonathan Vaughters is the general manager of the EF Education-EasyPost team, one of the rivals of Pogacar's UAE Team Emirates squad. He tells More than the Score's Mani Djazmi why taking on Pogacar is so difficult, and why he believes the 27-year-old may be his own biggest competition. Vaughters also shares his thoughts on drug testing in cycling, and argues its approach is far more rigorous than other sports.Mani's also joined by the BBC's Matt Warwick, who discusses what Pogacar's dominance means for the sport as a spectacle.Unexpected questions and beyond the scoresheet chat. More than the Score tells stories from all over the world of sport. From Formula One to netball, MMA to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels.And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

In 2018, Neeraj Chopra won javelin gold at the Commonwealth Games. It was the first major senior victory of his career, and he followed it up with gold at the Olympics and World Championships. More than the Score's Lee James talks to Neeraj about the medal that changed his life, and the effect it's had on Indian sport. Neeraj also discusses this year's Commonwealth Games, where he's facing a field packed with Olympic and world champions, including Pakistan's Arshad Nadeem, Kenya's Julius Yego and Keshorn Walcott of Trinidad and Tobago - and explains why he's learned important lessons about listening to his body.Unexpected questions and beyond the scoresheet chat. More than the Score tells stories from all over the world of sport. From Formula One to netball, MMA to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels.And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

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After another disrupted build-up, the Women's Africa Cup of Nations returns, just one year on from the last tournament. Now expanded to 16 teams, Wafcon enters a new era. Can Nigeria complete "Mission XI" by claiming an unprecedented 11th continental title? Will hosts Morocco, runners-up in the last two tournaments, finally lift the trophy on home soil? Can South Africa bounce back after a disappointing finish at the last edition? Or will Zambia’s talented golden generation continue their resurgence?This year also marks a milestone for tournament debutants Malawi and Cape Verde, whose participation reflects the growing reach of the women’s game across Africa. Does the expanded format offer more opportunities for smaller nations to make history?Maz Farookhi is joined by two of Africa’s leading women’s football journalists, Busisiwe Mokwena and Biola Solace-Chukwu. Together, they assess the title contenders, examine the biggest talking points on and off the pitch, and explore what this Wafcon could reveal about the future of women’s football on the continent.Unexpected questions and beyond the scoresheet chat. More than the Score tells stories from all over the world of sport. From Formula One to netball, MMA to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels.And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

The Commonwealth Games has arrived in Glasgow, but in a very different format to before. Around 3,000 athletes will compete in 10 sports, six of them including a para-sport element - far fewer than any of the previous editions this century. Glasgow also only took over this year's edition after the intended host, the Australian state of Victoria, pulled out as costs spiralled.So do this year's Games represent a chance to build a more sustainable future, or are they a sign of its decline?Earlier this month, More than the Score's Mani Djazmi spoke to Katie Sadleir, CEO of Commonwealth Sport, who gives an insight into what it took to put Glasgow 2026 together, and why she thinks the Games's new model could be more attractive to potential host cities.Mani also speaks to the BBC's Shabnam Younus-Jewell, who's reporting on the Games in Glasgow, and Mo Allie, who gives us his perspective from Cape Town. What kind of anticipation is there for the next 11 days of competition?You can hear more of Mani's discussion with Katie Sadleir in The Interview podcast from the BBC World Service.Unexpected questions and beyond the scoresheet chat. More than the Score tells stories from all over the world of sport. From Formula One to netball, MMA to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels.And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

Los Angeles hosted eight games at the World Cup - but in 2028, the city will take on an even bigger test when it welcomes the 2028 Olympics and Paralympic games. Is it ready for sport's other "greatest show on Earth"?More than the Score's John Bennett talks to Libby Rainey, who's reporting on the Olympic preparations for Los Angeles public media organisation LAist. She discusses the political, logistical and economic challenges the city faces - including whether one of the most famously car-dependent cities on Earth can build a public transit system to keep everyone moving.They're also joined by the BBC's Isaac Fanin, who reported on the World Cup from LA for the World Service. He shares his perspective on the city as a visitor, and why a visit to the Walk of Fame revealed a surprising problem.Unexpected questions and beyond the scoresheet chat. More than the Score tells stories from all over the world of sport. From Formula One to netball, MMA to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels.And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

Erling Haaland's Norway went out of the World Cup at the quarter-final stage - but on social media, he's arguably been the tournament's biggest winner.From shopping for a cowboy hat in Texas to coming home with a taxidermied raccoon, Haaland's American adventures have seen his online following explode, and his fame has now spread into wider US pop culture. But what is it about him that America has fallen in love with - and just how big a star could he become?Crystal Bell, digital culture editor at Mashable, tells More than the Score's John Bennett how Haaland's authenticity has been a huge draw for Gen Z and Gen Alpha, and why the way he uses Snapchat is key to his appeal. She also analyses how he's been building his brand in China and beyond.Tobias Hovland also joins the show to discuss what he's seen while reporting from the US for Norwegian broadcaster NRK, and how Haaland's exploits have been received back home.Unexpected questions and beyond the scoresheet chat. More than the Score tells stories from all over the world of sport. From Formula One to netball, MMA to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels.And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

After six weeks, the FIFA 2026 men's World Cup, held across the United States, Canada and Mexico and featuring a record 48 teams is over. Spain are champions for a second time after beating Argentina 1-0 in extra-time in the final at the New York-New Jersey stadium.More than the Score's Mike McCarthy is joined by the chief football writer at the i paper, Daniel Storey and by CBS Sport's Lisa Carlin to reflect on the match and the tournament as a whole. Daniel discusses his mammoth road trip across the US covering the event and why watching the great Lionel Messi, perhaps for the last time at a World Cup, has been a privilege. He also explains why FIFA must address high ticket prices going forward. Lisa explains why the tournament has been well received among Americans and why she enjoyed the controversial half-time show featuring Justin Bieber, Brazilian football legend Ronaldo and the Muppets. More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Last September, Alex Rose made athletics history by winning bronze in the men's discus at the World Athletics Championships. It was the first-ever medal at the championships for the Pacific island of Samoa.What made the feat even more remarkable is that Alex isn’t a full-time athlete. He has to fit training around working and travelling as a sales engineer in his native Michigan – meaning he often has to train on his lunch breaks, or before or after work, trying to find facilities wherever he can.In March of this year, Alex Rose talked to More than the Score’s Ade Adedoyin about his long road to making history for Samoa, and why he decided to compete for his father’s native land rather than the US. He also talks about the realities of raising two young sons while competing as a world-class athlete, and why his wife Samantha is his “rock”.Unexpected questions and beyond the scoresheet chat. More than the Score tells stories from all over the world of sport. From Formula One to netball, MMA to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels. And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

The New York Cosmos were the original Galacticos, the ultimate glamour club and now they’re back in 2026. Lee James tells the story of the original club, which was founded in the 1970s and featured star players like Pele, before charting their rebirth in 2026.He discovers the impact the Brazilian legend Pele had both on and off the pitch. Hearing from former teammates, including goalkeeper Eddie Edgar, finds out how celebrity fans including Mick Jagger followed the team, and learns about the cultural impact the Cosmos also had on the United States.Lee also attends a training session at the new Cosmos club as they return to professional soccer and speaks to the former Manchester United forward Guiseppe Rossi, who is the Cosmos head of soccer and Erik Stover the CEO who tell us why competing in a league with promotion and relegation will change the domestic game in the US.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Argentina will face Spain in Sunday's World Cup final, after overcoming England in a semi-final that once again showcased their battling spirit - but will Lionel Messi lift the trophy again in New York?Mani Djazmi is joined by South American football expert Tim Vickery and ESPN Argentina's Francisco Canepa to analyse why the Albicelestes are one game away from retaining their title. Francisco shares what it was like to be part of the crowd in Atlanta, and Tim explains how Messi's changing role with the squad has transformed their fortunes.We also hear from Argentina's Geronimo Rulli, the Marseille goalkeeper who's taking part in his second World Cup, about his memories of victory in 2022 - and what it's like playing for coach Lionel Scaloni.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Spain produced a masterclass in control to beat pre-tournament favourites France 2-0 in Dallas and secure their place in just their second World Cup final. BBC football reporter John Bennett tells Lee James why the performance of the European champions is one of the best he's ever seen at a World Cup. Spanish football journalist Ernest Macia explains why their current midfield, led by Rodri, can be compared to that of Xavi and Andrés Iniesta - the engine room of their 2010 World Cup winning side. French football journalist Sara Menai explains where it all went wrong for Didier Deschamps’ side, while South American football expert Tim Vickery looks ahead to the second semi-final between defending champions Argentina and 1966 winners England. More than the Score's Delyth Lloyd joins the show from New York, where the atmosphere ahead of Sunday's final is building. More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Mani Djazmi is joined by Loic Tanzi from L’Equipe and Juan Castro from Marca to preview the World Cup semi-final between France and Spain. France are many people’s favourites to win the tournament, while Spain head into the game on the back of a 36-match unbeaten run.Mani also gets an Argentinian perspective from journalist Nicolas Rotnitzsky, who says their semi-final against England is one of the most important games in the national team’s history. He’s also predicting the 2026 World Cup final will see his nation meet France in the final, just as they did at Qatar 2022.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Nestory Irankunda, Antonio Rudiger and Alphonso Davies represented Australia, Germany and Canada respectively at the World Cup - and all have links to Africa as refugees.Germany defender Antonio Rudiger tells the podcast how his brother was close to being forced into becoming a child soldier in Sierra Leone, and had to hide in a bag of rice to escape. Rudiger also discusses his childhood experience of living in a refugee centre in Germany.John Bennett and Ian Williams are also joined by Krish O'Mara Vignarajah, president and chief executive of Global Refuge, a non-profit organisation which has previously worked with the US State Department to resettle refugees. They discuss the players’ stories, and the challenges refugees face.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Italy has six players inside the men's world top 50 including number one and four-time Grand Slam champion, Jannik Sinner.Jasmine Paolini is flying the flag on the women's side while Sara Errani - one of the most successful doubles players in recent history - is still winning tournaments at the age of 39. The country has also won the last three Davis Cups and won the Billie Jean King Cup back-to-back in 2024 and 2025.Delyth Lloyd is joined at Wimbledon by former player and current tournament director of the Italian Open and director of women's tennis at the Italian Tennis Federation, Paolo Lorenzi, to discuss what's behind the rise of the sport in the country. We also hear from Sinner and Paolini as well as Italian tennis journalist Ubaldo Scanagatta.More than the Score tells stories beyond the scoreline from all over the world of sport. From the World Cup to F1, golf to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes like heavyweight boxing champion Fabio Wardley, Tour de France winner Pauline Ferrand-Prévot, trailblazing Samoan athlete Alex Rose and cricket superstar Smriti Mandhana, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels. And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore________________________________________

Johannes Hoesflot Klaebo wrote himself into Olympic history earlier this year, by breaking the all-time tally for gold medals won by a Winter Olympian. But this summer, he has been dividing his time between training and travelling back and forth to the US to support Norway at the World Cup.More than the Score’s Lee James has been speaking to the Norwegian icon ahead of his fellow countrymen’s World Cup quarter-final against England. Klaebo compares his approach to training and recovery to that of Erling Haaland, and reflects on meeting the Norway striker and his exploits at the World Cup. Klaebo says Norwegians are proud Haaland chose to represent Norway over England.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Athletes' memoirs and autobiographies are among the biggest-selling books around the world each year - but often, the words aren't entirely their own. Many sports stars work with 'ghostwriters' - professional authors who turn their stories into bestselling prose.In November 2025, More than the Score's Lee James and John Bennett talked to Jonathan Northcroft from UK newspaper the Sunday Times, who's worked on autobiographies and memoirs with stars including former Manchester United goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel. How do ghostwriters help sportspeople turn their anecdotes, memories and personal stories into books, and how do they make sure their words do justice to their subject's story?More than the Score tells stories from all over the world of sport. From Formula One to netball, MMA to figure skating, and Grand Slam tennis to Diamond League athletics. We've got interviews with extraordinary athletes, as well as the experts working behind the scenes, from football super-agents to the coaches keeping athletes in peak form. Plus, we've got the expertise of the BBC's top journalists, who share their insights from decades of covering sport at all levels. And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

Plenty of players have made names for themselves at this World Cup, from goalkeepers like Cape Verde’s Vozinha and Paraguay’s Orlando Gill to New Zealand midfielder Elijah Just. But though they might not have been familiar to fans, the extent of modern scouting means clubs all over the world will already have known about many of them – so how have their heroics at the tournament affected their standing in the game, and their value in the transfer market? More than the Score’s Mani Djazmi speaks to Ben Littlemore from Transfermarkt, one of the world’s foremost football databases, about how transfer fees get calculated, and what effect the World Cup can have on a player’s price tag. They also discuss the curious case of Tim Payne – the New Zealand defender who became an unexpected viral sensation before the tournament, and now looks set to start a new chapter of his career in Paraguay. Mani’s also joined by Lutz Pfannenstiel, sporting director at Aberdeen, who’s played and worked all over the world in a professional career stretching back to the early 1990s. He explains how his team assesses transfer targets, and what effect major tournaments have on their thinking. More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

We’re at the quarter-final stage of the World Cup and four of the eight teams involved have never won football's greatest prize.For Morocco to do so, they must first overcome two-time champions, France, in their quarter-final in Boston. Belgium face 2010 winners Spain. Erling Haaland's Norway must beat 1966 winners England to progress, while Switzerland face holders Argentina. Former Switzerland international, Johan Djourou, won over 70 caps for his country and played at three World Cups. He explains to Lee James why his nation has a strong chance of knocking out Lionel Messi's side. North African football journalist, Maher Mezahi, discusses Morocco's chances against the pre-tournament favourites. More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Lee James looks at whether co-hosting the men's Fifa World Cup will take football to another level in the United States. In many countries around the world, football is the major obsession - but the same can't be said about the US. The NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball and NHL have a longer history and dominate the media coverage, the sponsorship deals and the national conversation. But has this World Cup changed that - particularly now President Trump has got involved? Lee tells the story of how soccer has made big strides in the country since it first hosted the men's World Cup in 1994. The women's team is a dominant powerhouse, and Lionel Messi's move to Inter Miami has boosted interest in the men's domestic league, the MLS. Among the people we hear from are former head of US soccer Alan Rothenberg, the USA international footballers Eric Wynalda and Heather O'Reilly, MLS vice-president Dan Courtemanche, and South Korea captain Son Heung-Min, who made the move to the MLS from the English Premier League.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

As Vancouver hosts the last of its seven games at World Cup 2026, the city now faces a battle to keep its own MLS team. The Vancouver Whitecaps are for sale and have been linked with a potential relocation to Las Vegas. The Whitecaps say they’ve held serious talks with more than 100 potential interested parties, but no viable offer has emerged that would keep the team in Vancouver. Lee James speaks to former Canada internationals David Edgar and Paul Dolan, who both have links with Vancouver, to get their take on the situation. Isaac Fanin visits the city to speak to Whitecaps fans, journalists and former players to find out how people feel about a possible relocation to Las Vegas. We also hear from MLS vice president Dan Courtemanche about the possibility of the club relocating. More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Norway, aided by two goals from Erling Haaland, have reached the World Cup quarter-finals for the first time with a 2-1 win over Brazil – whose wait for their sixth title will stretch to at least 28 years.Mani Djazmi is joined by Norwegian football journalist Lars Sivertsen and South American football expert Tim Vickery to reflect on what the results mean for both countries…Lars discusses the influence of Norway goalkeeper Orjan Nyland, the fact Erling Haaland wants to inspire young people to dream of playing for Norway and explains the shared football heritage of Norway and England ahead of the two sides facing each other in the last eight. Tim derides the decision to take Neymar to the World Cup and to bring him on against Norway and says manager Carlo Ancelotti will now feel pressure around his position much greater than anything he will have experienced at Real Madrid or AC Milan.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Co-hosts Mexico have won four matches in a row at the World Cup, and are now set to face England at Mexico City’s legendary Azteca Stadium, with a place in the quarter-finals on the line.Football is a way of life in Mexico - but did you know a group of Cornish miners helped introduce the sport to the country?Henry Cowling has been investigating the role those miners played in Mexico's footballing story. This documentary first featured on Not By The Playbook.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

The Indian Wells tournament and the Players Championship are often unofficially referred to as the “fifth Grand Slam” and the “fifth major” of tennis and men's golf respectively. But could those nicknames ever become a reality – and who gets to confer that status on them? What makes some tournaments ‘major’, and why do they seem to matter more?BBC golf correspondent Iain Carter talks to More than the Score’s Ade Adedoyin about how the Open, the Masters, the US Open and the US PGA came to be regarded as the four majors of the men’s game – even though other tournaments previously had that status too. What do they reveal about where power lies in the sport?Ben Rothenberg, editor of tennis magazine Bounces, also joins the pod to explain what sets the Australian Open, the French Open, Wimbledon and the US Open apart from the rest of tennis. How much does entering their name into history still motivate golfers and tennis players today?And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

Philadelphia may not have hosted an opening ceremony, and it won’t be the venue for the final, but the city certainly seems to have been one of the big winners of the World Cup.Philadelphia Stadium – AKA Lincoln Financial Field, home of the NFL’s Philadelphia Eagles - has been full for games involving the likes of Brazil, France and Ivory Coast. In the first two weeks of the tournament, 250,000 people had been through the gates to watch games on big screens at the fan park. Lee James and John Bennett examine the fan experience in the city, with John visiting a tailgate before the Brazil v Haiti game, chatting to fans and sampling the food on offer. Lee then visits all four of the main US sports teams in the city - the Eagles, Phillies, 76ers and Flyers - to learn more about Philadelphia’s sporting heritage.He also hears from Meg Kane, the host city executive for Philadelphia Soccer 2026, about why the city wanted to host games and what benefits it brings.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

The United States have reached the round of 16 at their home World Cup just as they did the last time they hosted the competition in 1994. The USA did so by beating Bosnia and Herzegovina 2-0 in Santa Clara. More than the Score's Lee James discusses this year's run with Kerith Gabriel, sports editor for the Philadelphia Inquirer. Lee also reflects on the World Cup 32 years ago with those involved in the big moments, including the scorer of the USA's first goal Eric Wynalda, Sunday Oliseh from debutants Nigeria and the Republic of Ireland's goalscorer Ray Houghton. We also hear from the man who ran the show, the former head of US Soccer and the organising committee, Alan Rothenberg. He reveals how they turned a sceptical public and football world around to produce what became the highest attended and most lucrative World Cup. This is a tale of two missed penalties and so much that happened in-between, as World Cup 94 became the American dream.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Cape Verde, in their debut World Cup, have already drawn with Spain and Uruguay and now they’re set for their biggest test yet, Lionel Messi's defending champions Argentina.Playing ahead of their now famous 40-year-old goalkeeper Vozinha, is Sidny Lopes Cabral, a defender who’s one of several Dutch-born players in a squad that has been taken liberally from the Cape Verdean diaspora.He explains to Mani Djazmi his excitement ahead of facing Argentina and says they’re taking inspiration from Paraguay’s shock win over Germany.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Mani Djazmi is joined by German football expert Constantin Eckner and the BBC’s tactics correspondent Umir Irfan to reflect on Germany’s shock defeat against Paraguay at the World Cup.The 2014 world champions haven’t won a knockout game at a World Cup since they lifted the trophy in Brazil, and heading into the Paraguay game they had never lost a World Cup penalty shootout. We discuss what went wrong for Germany, and what their defeat means for the future of manager Julian Nagelsmann. We also hear from jubilant Paraguay fans and discuss how did Gustavo Alfaro's men pull off the biggest shock of the knockout stages so far?More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Lee James is joined by African football commentator Mark Gleeson, South American football expert Tim Vickery and Daniel Storey, chief football writer for the i Newspaper, to assess whether the biggest World Cup has been a success. They discuss whether the tournament has lacked jeopardy, what has led to nine African teams reaching the knockout stage and whether the World Cup will now expand again to 64 teams.Tim believes the rise of Africa could make life more difficult in the coming years for some South American nations and that questions will be asked about whether Asia deserves so many places, given their relative under-performance in 2026.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Back in January, Naomi Osaka turned heads at tennis's Australian Open when she took to the court for her first-round match wearing a long, flowing outfit - accompanied by a custom hat and parasol - inspired by reading her daughter a story about jellyfish. Created with sports brand Nike and designer Robert Wun, it further cemented four-time Grand Slam champion Osaka's reputation as one of sport's most fashion-conscious stars.Earlier this year, More than the Score's Sophia Hartley spoke to two industry experts about how sport and fashion influence each other, and whether they're becoming even more closely linked.Sheena Butler-Young is a senior correspondent for fashion industry news site The Business of Fashion. She believes the two industries have never been more aligned. Melissa Anglesea is the creative director of Suzi Wong, the British sportswear company who've created custom outfits for many of boxing's biggest names, including Tyson Fury and Amir Khan. She explains how the creative process works when collaborating with the world's best fighters.

Canada’s Christine Sinclair is the all-time record goal scorer in international football, with 190 goals. She played in a Women’s World Cup on home soil in 2015 and was part of the team, which won Olympic gold in 2021.Sinclair joins the BBC’s Lee James to discuss the impact co-hosting the men’s World Cup is having on the sport in Canada. She believes the nation has caught football fever and the long-term benefits will be felt 15 years from now as more children grow into playing the sport. Sinclair also gives us an insight into what it is like playing in a home World Cup, reflects on her storied career and chats about the new animated film about her life, which is narrated by Ryan Reynolds.All this summer, More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Curacao goalkeeper, Eloy Room, made 15 saves in his side's goalless draw with Ecuador - a new record for a keeper who kept a clean sheet in a 90-minute match at the World Cup. Remarkably, his performance came just days after conceding seven to Germany in their opening match of the tournament. The 37-year-old tells Mani Djazmi how he, and the team, recovered from that loss and why his display in Kansas was perfect for a goalkeeper. All this summer, More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Lee James is in Toronto to find out how soccer is gripping Canada, with the men’s team winning their first ever World Cup match and on the brink of reaching the knock-out stages.Soccer is now the highest participation sport in the country according to Canada Soccer and there are almost one million registered players, in 1,200 clubs across Canada. The sport has surpassed Ice hockey and all other sports in terms of youth participation, according to a recent report by Jumpstart, a Canadian charity. So is this reflected across Canadian society - are young children now kicking footballs rather than strapping on skates? Lee speaks to Canada international Jonathan Osorio, former Toronto FC goalkeeping coach Jon Conway, broadcaster Andi Petrillo and Ice Hockey fans to find out if Canada is a soccer nation now?All this summer, More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Lionel Messi is now the World Cup's all-time leading scorer, after getting two goals for Argentina against Austria - two days before his 39th birthday. Messi's tally now stands at 18 goals, but what is the secret behind his longevity - and can he now be called the greatest footballer ever?The BBC’s Mani Djazmi is joined by South American football expert Tim Vickery, who analyses how Messi has adapted his game over the past two decades to remain among the world's greatest players. Tim also considers how Argentina's team functions without Messi - and explains why Argentinians see him in a different light to the country's other football icon, Diego Maradona.We also hear from former Argentina forward Hernan Crespo, who says he knew Messi was special from the moment he first saw him. He also discusses his ongoing importance to the side and assesses their chances of winning World Cup 2026.All this summer, More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

The New York-New Jersey Stadium - usually known as the MetLife Stadium - will host this year's World Cup final on 19 July. It's best known as the home of the NFL's two New York teams, the Giants and the Jets, and concerns have been raised about its suitability for football's biggest game. France and Arsenal defender William Saliba is among the critics - he said the pitch "wasn't great" and "more like artificial turf" following his country's 3-1 win over Senegal.One man who knows plenty about the stadium is Super Bowl winning former New York Giants wide receiver Victor Cruz. He talks to More than the Score's Lee James about his experiences of playing at the MetLife, and reflects on how football's popularity is now soaring among young Americans. He also shares his admiration for France star Kylian Mbappe.Lee's also joined from Philadelphia by the BBC's John Bennett. They hear from fans from Panama, Argentina and Brazil about their experiences of World Cup 2026 - are high prices affecting their enjoyment?All this summer, More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

When Ellie Bouttell was 15, she moved from England to live with her dad in Beijing. The decision shaped her life in ways she could never have imagined.Back in January, Ellie spoke to More than the Score's Ade Adedoyin about how she went from a "difficult" adolescence in the English Midlands to graduating from the University of Cambridge, before taking her most unexpected step: becoming a professional boxer in China. Along the way, we hear how the Chinese language opened her mind in ways she'd never expected, and the moment that made her realise her future lay in fighting.All this summer, More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.And if you've got your own take on the stories we cover, we'd love to hear from you. Email [email protected], or WhatsApp us on 0044 800 032 0470. You can find more information, along with our privacy notice, on our website: www.bbcworldservice.com/morethanthescore

Haiti's second game at World Cup 2026 sees them face the tournament's most famous team: Brazil. After losing their opening match to Scotland, Haiti need a result - but, as More than the Score's Mani Djazmi hears, plenty of Haitians might be rooting for Brazil instead. Journalist Pierre Richard Midy explains how the history of football in Haiti is intertwined with the Brazilian team – to the extent that many Haitians support them more than their own national side - and why Pele became a revered figure in the country. He also reveals the lengths to which people in Haiti are having to go to just to watch the tournament, with electricity in short supply, and argues that "Haiti needs much more than the World Cup" to end the gang violence that plagues the country. We also hear from Haiti's record scorer, Duckens Nazon, about how he hopes his team can win round the country's Brazil fans. Plus, singer Nathalie Cerin tells the BBC's John Bennett what the experience of watching Haiti at the World Cup is like for expats in Philadelphia. More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Fifa has introduced mandatory hydration breaks for this World Cup, essentially splitting the games into four quarters. The mandatory three-minute drinks stoppage at all 104 games has been introduced to help players cope with the stifling heat and humidity levels in Mexico, Canada and the United States. It has been criticised for allowing coaches to make tactical changes while broadcasters can - and many have - opted to cut to lucrative commercial breaks while play is halted.It has attracted criticism from the likes of the Netherlands captain Virgil van Dijk and USA head coach Mauricio Pochettino. Fifa says the measure "is part of a focused attempt to ensure the best possible conditions for players, drawing upon the experiences of previous tournaments, including the recent FIFA Club World Cup."Lee James is joined in Toronto by CBC's Olympic and Sports commentator, Matt Cullen, and BBC Football Tactics Correspondent, Umir Irfan, to discuss who benefits from a mid-half break in play - players or broadcasters?More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

South Korea's Son Heung-min is an icon and the captain of his national team, with the former Tottenham Hotspur forward holding the record for the most goals by an Asian player in both Premier League and UEFA Champions League history.Son tells Lee James it’s “crazy” and a “dream come true” to be playing in a fourth World Cup and is hoping the team can inspire the next generation.He also reflects on watching South Korea’s epic run at their home World Cup in 2002, as a child, and how crazy a time it was in the country, including getting days off school.Lee is also joined by David Oh from BBC News Korean who tells him that Son is the face of this generation of South Korean football and that he thinks he’s chasing the all time goal scoring record for the national team.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Senegal and Morocco are widely viewed as Africa’s strongest sides at this World Cup. The BBC’s Isaac Fanin is in Los Angeles, while Lee James and John Bennett are in New York; they reflect on being at Morocco’s opening game against Brazil, and on the recent Afcon final between the two sides.Isaac has also spoken at length to Senegal and Everton midfielder Iliman Ndiaye, who tells him the team “never fear anyone” and that their goal is to win the World Cup. Senegal open their campaign against France in a repeat of their epic encounter at the 2002 World Cup, and Ndiaye says El Hadji Diouf – one of the stars of the 2002 team - has spoken to them about that famous victory.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

After months of uncertainty, and doubts over whether they would participate in the World Cup, Iran get under way against New Zealand in Los Angeles. The team has faced visa problems and had to relocate their base camp to Mexico.The BBC’s Mani Djazmi discusses the issues around the team and their participation with Shahin Rahmani, a former football journalist and editor in Iran, who for the last 20 years has attended several World Cups as a FIFA security officer and is regularly consulted by the Iranian football federation.Actor and comedian Maz Jobrani also tells Mani how the Iranian-American community in LA feels about the national team.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

More Than The Score joins football fans across the United States as the hosts record a comfortable win in their World Cup opener against Paraguay.The United States joined co-hosts Mexico and Canada in hosting their first match of the tournament, recording a comfortable 4-1 victory at the Los Angeles Stadium.Lee James joins a watch along in a New York bar, while Isaac Fanin gauged the reaction of fans in the host city. More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Last year, the Caribbean island nation of Curacao qualified for the Fifa men's World Cup for the first time in their history - led by 78-year-old manager Dick Advocaat. He's now set to become the oldest man to ever coach at the finals, when he leads Curacao out against four-time world champions Germany.That got us thinking about how much experience matters for coaches. Does having decades of knowledge under your belt make you a better guide for young athletes - or less flexible and more set in your ways?Last November, More than the Score's Ed Harry talked to Aston Moore, a British athletics coach who's worked with dozens of elite Olympians and Paralympians, including two-time world heptathlon champion Katarina Johnson-Thompson. He turned 70 in February, but has no intention of retiring. He explains the importance of commitment and adaptability for coaches and the athletes in their care - and why he prefers to teach people by letting them work out the answers for themselves, rather than telling them what to do.Ed also hears from journalist Anthony Wootton, who discusses why sports organisations in North America seem to have more patience with their head coaches.All this summer, More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. Search for More than the Score, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

The BBC’s Lee James and John Bennett are in New York City, where they discover excitement for the World Cup 2026 is starting to build, albeit slowly, against the backdrop of the New York Knicks run in the NBA Finals.They reflect on Mexico winning their opening match before turning their attention to another of the co-hosts, Canada.We hear Lee’s extended interview with Jonathan Osorio. The midfielder is a key part of a Canada squad celebrated for its diversity. Osorio was born in Toronto to Colombian parents. Ahead of the co-hosts opening match against Bosnia-Herzegovina, which falls on his birthday, he tells Lee James why this Canada team's multiculturalism is a reflection of the nation in 2026. He also says this World Cup is an opportunity to grow the game so they can in the future be considered a 'soccer nation'. More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

The 2026 FIFA World Cup gets underway with hosts Mexico taking on South Africa in the opening match at the iconic Estadio Azteca in Mexico City. Expected to play a crucial role is South Africa's captain and goalkeeper Ronwen Williams, whose performances over the past two years have established him as one of Africa's leading players. He spoke to Isaac Fanin about the rise of African goalkeepers and why leading Bafana Bafana in the first game means so much to him and his family. Mani Djazmi’s been speaking to former Mexico international Joaquin Beltran about what Mexican’s describe as El Quinto Partido, the Mexican curse of never winning five games in a World Cup.Plus Isaac visits the Mexican community in Los Angeles, including interviews with Tracy M. Serrano-Ruiz, Interim Chief Executive Officer of LA Plaza de Cultura y Artes, and Carlos Gonzalez Gutierrez, the Consul General of Mexico in Los AngelesMore than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.Audio for this programme was updated on 11th June 2026 with additional audio about Mexico.

USA, Canada and Mexico are co-hosting the biggest ever World Cup, but which nation will go furthest in the tournament?The BBC’s Mani Djazmi is joined by CONCACAF football expert Jon Arnold to assess the co-hosts chances. We also hear from Canada manager Jesse Marsch, Former USA captain Marcelo Balboa and Mexican journalist Ricardo Otero.Marsch tells us he believes his side can make history in a home World Cup and it’s an opportunity to create future stars.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Uzbekistan are set to finally make their World Cup debut as an independent nation - after years of near misses. More than the Score's Mani Djazmi speaks to Jaloliddin Masharipov, a winger who's been part of the Uzbekistan team for more than a decade, about how the team is getting ready for its big moment, and their star player - Manchester City's Abdukodir Khusanov. Jaloliddin's also looking forward to being reunited with his former teammate Cristiano Ronaldo when Uzbekistan face Portugal. Mani also hears from BBC Uzbek's Firuz Rahimi, who explains how much Uzbekistan has invested into building a squad that's ready for the World Cup, and what finally qualifying means for the country's national image. Is Italy legend Fabio Cannavaro the coach who can take Uzbekistan where they want to go? More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Half a century on from Pele's infamous prophecy that an African nation would win the World Cup before the year 2000, could the continent finally deliver its first World Cup in 2026?The BBC’s Lee James is joined by the former Democratic Republic of Congo captain Gabriel Zakuani and the former Sierra Leone captain Steven Caulker to discuss the hopes of the ten African sides competing in the tournament. They discuss the impact Morocco reaching the semi-finals in 2022 has had, the strength of Senegal and give their thoughts on when an African nation could win a World Cup.Senegal’s Iliman Ndiaye tells the podcast they’re going to the tournament with the aim of winning it and they never fear anyone. Former Nigeria captain Sunday Oliseh tells us it’s possible an African team could go one better than Morocco did in 2022 and that he wants to see an African team win the tournament in his lifetime. Plus, we also hear from Ghanian legend Micheal Essien. More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show. With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

The United States, Canada and Mexico will host the most prestigious football tournament in the world. The holders Argentina will start as one of the favourites along with the likes of Spain, France, and Brazil. There are also some new names with Cape Verde, Curaçao, Jordan and Uzbekistan competing in the finals for the first time ever.Lee James is joined by John Bennett, Isaac Fanin and Mani Djazmi to discuss the issues, both on and off the field, affecting the tournament. We also hear from some of those who will be playing including South Korea captain and former Tottenham Hotspur striker, Son Heung-min and Argentina World Cup winner, Geronimo Rulli.More than the Score brings you more than the men’s football World Cup - the new teams, standout stars, trends and fandoms shaping the tournament in ways the stats don’t show.With 48 teams competing across Mexico, the US and Canada, BBC World Service promises to take you deeper - from the group stages to the final. Search for More than the Score wherever you get your BBC podcasts.