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More Than The Scoreboard | Leadership, Culture & Accountability
by Coach Corbin Smith
Helping coaches and athletes build leadership, culture, and accountability through proven systems — not just motivation.The More Than The Scoreboard Podcast is for coaches, athletic directors, and athletes who want to develop real leadership, build strong team culture, and create accountability that shows up on and off the field.Each episode delivers practical systems, frameworks, and real-world strategies drawn from the MTTS Leadership & Culture Development System, including The Standard 365, Athlete Leadership Workbook, 39 Character Trait System and The MTTS Leadership & Culture System™ .
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#81 Roy Lopez
Click to Book your EpisodeHad the opportunity to sit down with Coach Roy Lopez—one of the most respected and impactful coaches I’ve been around.After spending more than 20 years as a head high school coach, with stints at Marcos De Niza, Sunnyside, Tolleson, and Desert Ridge, he’s now continuing to make an impact as the defensive line coach at powerhouse Hamilton HS.We dive into leadership, building real relationships with players, the importance of administration in program success, and what it truly means to serve others through coaching. We also talk about his journey, his son’s path to the NFL, and the impact of the Roy Lopez Foundation.This one is about culture, connection, and doing things the right way.
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#80 Tarig Holman
Click to Book your EpisodeTarig Holman is the Head Football Coach at Hudson Catholic High School in New Jersey. A former player at the University of Iowa, Tarig was part of a program built on toughness, discipline, and brotherhood—something that still shapes how he leads today. Prior to Hudson Catholic, he served as the Head Coach at St. Thomas Aquinas, where he went 27–6 and built one of the top programs in the state. Tarig has spent over two decades as an educator and coach, developing young men both in the classroom and on the field. Now leading a program with deep roots and real adversity, he is focused on building something that goes far beyond football. Tarig exemplifies what it means to lead with purpose, serve others, and create a lasting impact through the game.
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#79 Barry Odom
Click to Book your EpisodeBarry Odom is the head football coach at Purdue University and someone I’ve had the privilege of knowing since his playing days at Missouri, where he was part of building something truly special. A proven leader at the highest level of college football, Barry has built his career on toughness, accountability, and developing men both on and off the field. From growing up in Ada, Oklahoma to leading major programs across the country, his journey is rooted in competition, character, and community. More importantly, he’s a great friend and someone who truly understands what it means to lead with purpose.
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#78 DeMontie Cross
Click to Book your EpisodeEpisode 78 - DeMontie Cross, the head football coach at Lee’s Summit North High School in Missouri. DC was an All-Big 8 safety at the University of Missouri and has gone on to build a coaching career at the highest levels of the game, including college football and the NFL.DeMontie and i go back to my early days in coaching—when he was a player and I was a young GA—and I’ve seen firsthand the leadership, intensity, and growth that have shaped who he is today. His journey from player to coach is rooted in experience, perspective, and a commitment to developing young men beyond the game.
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#77 David Wilkinson
Click to Book your EpisodeIn this episode, we sit down with Head Football Coach and Athletic Coordinator Coach David Wilkinson of McCollum High School in San Antonio, Texas. He brings over 24 years of experience and a proven track record of building successful programs across Texas—including a historic state championship run at Boerne High School.Coach Wilkinson shares how he’s transforming McCollum by shifting mindset—from a victim mentality to one built on gratitude, accountability, and ownership. He breaks down the importance of daily habits, intentional culture, and why leadership is developed through influence—not titles.We also dive into: Building trust through positive reinforcement and relationships Creating alignment across an entire athletic department Developing leaders by expanding voice within the team The power of community and standards that don’t bend Plus, a powerful personal story on balancing coaching with family, and how the coaching community stepped up in a meaningful way.
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#76 Dr. Brandon Beck
Click to Book your EpisodeDr. Brandon Beck is an award-winning coach, teacher, and leadership expert with over two decades of experience in education and athletics. He is a highly sought-after Keynote Speaker and Leadership Coach who is dedicated to helping leaders cultivate unshakeable confidence in an ever-evolving world. His passion lies in empowering educators, students, athletes, coaches, and corporate teams by emphasizing the power of self-confidence as the foundation for strong leadership and a thriving team culture.Brandon is the author of Into the Fire: Five Rules for Igniting a Leadership Legacy and Unlocking Unlimited Potential: Understanding the Infinite Power Within to Guide Any Student Toward Success . He hosts the Unlocking Unlimited Potential Stories Show, a podcast that amplifies the voices of inspiring leaders who are creating lasting impact across sports, education, and business.A former semi-professional soccer player turned educator and speaker, he has worked with leaders at all levels, from NCAA programs to corporations and schools nationwide. His engaging keynotes and workshops are known for their authentic storytelling, interactive experiences, and practical strategies designed to inspire the next generation of leaders.
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#75 Dustin Peace
Click to Book your EpisodeDustin Peace is the former Head Football Coach at Canyon Del Oro (CDO) in Tucson, Arizona. Over his 15 year head coaching career at CDO, Coach Peace went 119-50. He started his head coaching career by winning the State Championship during his first year as well as ending his coaching career with another State Championship. Coach talks about how practicing in the morning changed the trajectory of his program and allowed both players and coaches to find balance between school, football and personal life. We also dive deep into his accountability system, which every coach could learn from. Coach Peace started his head coaching career by winning the State Championship during his first year as well as ending his coaching career with another State Championship.
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#74 Jeff Bollnow
Click to Book your EpisodeJeff Bollnow is the Head Football Coach at Tanque Verde HS in Arizona. Going into his 4th year, Coach Bollnow has raised the bar since he has been at the helm. Jeff's approach to multi sport athletes, the weight room and the importance of the prior coach, Jay Dobyns', foundation that he laid for the success of the program. Great Listen!
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#73 Robert Ortiz Jr.
Click to Book your EpisodeRobert Ortiz Jr. is currently the Offensive Coordinator and Assistant Head Coach at Bradshaw Mountain High School in Arizona. He previously served as the OC at Arizona College Prep and Marcos De Niza HS in AZ. Prior to that, Robert served as the Head Football Coach at his high school alma mater, Mingus High School in AZ. Robert played football at Scottsdale Community college prior to playing and graduating from Delta State, where he was a wide receiver. After graduating from college, Coach Ortiz started his coaching career as the Wide Receivers coach at Mesa Community College in Arizona. He shares his insight about his mentors, mentoring younger coaches, putting family first and finding the balance as well as the importance of really developing a trusted relationship with those that he has served and continue to serve.
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#72 DeChon Burns Part 2
Click to Book your EpisodeCoach DeChon Burns, Head Football Coach at Linfield Christian High School in California, joins More Than The Scoreboard for a second part to his Episode #5 interview a year ago. DeChon and Corbin are life long friends and former USC Teammates. Having coached in the NFL, College and High School, Coach Burns brings a unique perspective to our audience.
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#71 Jeremy Bennett
Click to Book your EpisodeCoach Jeremy Bennett is the Head Football Coach at Mullen High School in Denver, Colorado. He is entering his 7th season leading the Mustangs and 22nd season as a head coach. He has brought Mullen back to a successful program that continues to make the playoffs and compete for a state championship. Coach Bennett has built the Mullen culture to center around discipline, accountability and "Ausamani". Previously the head coach at D’Evelyn where his record with the Jaguars, was 103-56, 11 playoff appearances and 14 consecutive seasons of .500 or better.
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70 Mycal Anders
Click to Book your EpisodeMycal Anders is a U.S. Marine Corps Veteran, Birkman Certified Consultant, bestselling author, and founder of Next Level Performance Consulting. He's coached thousands of high-performers to integrate their leadership, wellness, and identity through a system rooted in clarity, discipline, and aligned execution. He is also a former college football player having played at the United States Air Force Academy and East Texas A&M Commerce. Go check out Mycal's social media for contact info @coachderz
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#69 Jon LaFleur
Click to Book your EpisodeCoach Jon LaFleur is the Head Football Coach at Bishop Heelan Catholic High School in Sioux City, Iowa. A former Iowa Hawkeye defensive lineman and team captain, Jon is going into his 5th season as the Bishop Heelan Head Coach. In 5 years, Jon has led his team to two state championship games and has brought Heelan back to the days when he played at the prestigious school. A good friend and great teammate, we are honored to have Jon on the program. Bishop Heelan is a school that has participated in our Tour Crucible Event and will be doing it again in 2026.
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#68 Grant Sanders
Click to Book your EpisodeCoach Grant Sanders is the new Head Football Coach at North High School in Phoenix, AZ. A First time high school head coach, Coach Sanders talks about how coaching in youth football and being a JV head coach has helped him get to the point that he is now. Coach Sanders works for the Phoenix Fire Department as well as serving on the Fiesta Bowl committee.
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#67 Reid Kahl
Click to Book your EpisodeCoach Reid Kahl is a former Colorado High School Football Coach with over 35 years of experience. A two time State Championship Coach and Head Coach at 3 different high schools, most recently at Wiggins HS in 2024/2025, Coach Kahl knows what it means to "Serve". Relationships, Honesty, Discipline and Accountability was at the forefront of his standards during his coaching days. Coming from a football family, Coach Kahl started coaching for his father. His brother, Kent Kahl, was a former teammate and roommate of mine at the University of Iowa. Listen to his take on the state of high school football and what it takes to be a high school head coach.
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#66 Eric Schreiber Jr
Click to Book your EpisodeCoach Eric SchreiberJr is the Head Football Coach at Hobart High School in Indiana. At 30 years old, Coach Schreiber is entering his 3rd year at Hobart and his 5th year as a Head Coach. Coming from a coaching family, we talk about how to balance Coaching and Family, how to honor your wife and children while still serving the young men that he coaches and his community. Great insight from a Coach that understands what it means to be a Husband, Father, Coach and Man of God.
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#65 John Bonaventura Part 2
Click to Book your EpisodeWe talk to John Bonaventura for a second time. He is the former Head Football Coach at Temecula Valley High School in California. He is also the owner of FTBL1ST Training Academy. John is a Former NFL and CFL Scout and has worked in the football industry for over 30 years as a player, coach, scout and administrator. He has worked at the high school, collegiate and professional levels of football. He is transitioning to being a scout again. We dive deep into the State of High School athletics and talk at length about the Portal and NIL
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#64 David White
Click to Book your EpisodeCoach David White is a former FBS Assistant Coach of 17 years at the University of Oklahoma and Nevada and then a Head Football Coach at the High School level for over 15 years. Coach White was the Head Coach at Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas, NV, Ridgeland HS in Mississippi, Blue Springs HS in Missouri, Jackson Hole HS in Wyoming and most recently at Westmoore HS in Oklahoma. David talks about his experiences as a player, coach and father. We dive deep into administration support, developing leaders, Culture in the day and age of open enrollment and transfers as well as how the college football recruiting landscape has changed.
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NCAA Football-Transfer Portal, NIL & What The Future May Hold.
Click to Book your EpisodeIn this short 10 minute episode, Corbin Smith breaks down the state of the NCAA's Transfer Portal, NIL and what the Future my hold from a prediction made 25 years ago by 24 year veteran FBS Head Football Coach, Larry Smith.
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#63 Matt Hughes
Click to Book your EpisodeMatt Hughes is the Head Football Coach at West Branch High School in Iowa. A former Captain at the University of Iowa, Matt was an All Conference and Academic All American Linebacker at Iowa. After short stints in the NFL and Arena Football, Matt started his coaching career. He was an assistant that the University of South Dakota as well as the Head Coach at Clear Creek - Amana High School in Iowa before being hired at West Branch. Matt is the son of a long time football coach and has had the very rare opportunity to coach with his dad at both Clear Creek and now at West Branch. Matt exemplifies WHY High School coaches do what they do.
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#62 Gary Bernardi
Click to Book your EpisodeCoach Gary Bernardi is a retired FBS Football Coach with over 40 years of coaching experience. Having coached at Arizona, USC, UCLA, Colorado, San Jose State, UNLV, NAU and San Diego State, Coach Bernardi is one of the best to have ever coached. In his vast career, he has coached Tight Ends, Offensive Line and been a long time Special Teams Coordinator. Coach Bernardi shares his advice on culture, leadership and the importance of core values for assistant coaches. Coach Bernardi has two family members that are currently coaching, both at Western Kentucky University. His son, Joe Bernardi, is the Offensive Line coach and his son in law, Andy LaRussa, is the Assistant Head Coach/Safeties Coach and Special Teams Coordinator.
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#61 Caleub Bueno
Click to Book your EpisodeCaleub Bueno is the Head Freshman Football Coach at Desert Vista High School in Arizona. At 24 years old, Caleub is already changing lives and serving our young people. Coming from a coaching family, Caleub played football at McClintock High School before graduating and getting right into coaching at the age of 19. Great insight about leadership, mentorship, developing character and getting young players ready to play Varsity Football. He also shares his thoughts on what young coaches can do in order to have a successful coaching career.
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#60 Wade Salem
Click to Book your EpisodeWade Salem is the Founder and CEO of Character Matters. Character Matters is a movement designed to assist coaches in Strengthening their Culture and Developing Character within their program. I can attest, first hand, how effective Character Matters is when used in a program. Character Matters is a Movement, not a program, that is changing lives of young student athletes in ALL Sports at ALL Levels. As a Coach, if you aren't using the Character Matters Curriculum, YOU SHOULD BE. Regardless of Sport or Level, Character Matters is RIGHT FOR YOU!! Go over to www.coachcharacter.com to get started or email me at [email protected] for more information.
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#59 Todd Marinovich
Click to Book your EpisodeEp 59 - Todd Marinovich is a father, artist, author, and former USC and NFL quarterback. Todd’s journey is unlike any other. In his book, Marinovich: Outside the Lines in Football, Art, and Addiction, co-written with Lizzy Wright, he opens up about a life marked not only by success on the field but also by daily battles with adversity in every imaginable form.In this episode, we dive into Todd’s perspective on what it means to parent athletes in today’s world, the role of leadership and service, and the responsibility coaches carry in shaping young men and women into the best versions of themselves.
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#58 Cheri Naudin
Click to Book your EpisodeCheri Naudin is the founder and owner of Collegiate Sports Advocate. Collegiate Sports Advocate was created to help Student-Athletes find the RIGHT FIT. CSA is committed to guiding the Student-Athlete through the entire journey—not just Signing Day—and to see them succeed all the way to college graduation. CSA's focus is on the experience and the relationship, ensuring athletes build meaningful connections with college coaches while preparing for a successful career. Every Advocate on the CSA team has either played in college, coached at the collegiate level, or walked alongside other Student-Athletes through this process. That’s why they understand what it takes—because they have lived it.www.collegiatesportsadvocate.com
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#57 Jeff Carter
Click to Book your EpisodeJeff Carter is a former FBS assistant football coach and former Head Football Coach at Pontotoc High School in Mississippi. Jeff spent 10 years as the Head Coach at Pontotoc.
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#56 Terry Mahan
Click to Book your EpisodeTerry Mahan is a former player at Northern Arizona University. He was recently inducted into the NAU Hall of Fame. Terry and his wife, Annette, lost their son, Danny Mahan, to fentanyl on January 3rd 2019. They created The Danny Mahan Foundation to shine a light on the opioid crisis impacting families across our nation. This is a must listed for Coaches, Parents and young adults. Terry now travels and speaks on the dangers and signs of opioid use. To learn more, or to support their mission, www.dannymahanfoundation.org. Every donation goes directly toward non-medical care for addiction centers and rehab facilities—helping those in the fight for recovery.
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#55 Gary Chupik
Click to Book your EpisodeGary Chupik is a professional mental performance coach, leadership coach, sports nut, strategist, writer, and speaker. He has worked with many professional and college athletes to help them master their mind so they can perform at their greatest on the field. He is the guy behind Elite Mindset. It has been his life-long ambition to help high-performers get better and be better. That's why he started this company. Go to https://www.elitemindsetnation.com/ to learn more
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#54 Mitch Tulane
Click to Book your EpisodeMitch Tulane is the Head Football Coach at Syracuse High School in Utah. Coach Tulane is a graduate of Syracuse High School and after serving his 2 year mission and graduating from Weber State University, where he played football as a Safety, Mitch went back to his alma mater to teach and coach. After serving as the Defensive Coordinator at Syracuse, he was promoted to Head Coach in December of 2023. Coach Tulane enters his second year as the Head Coach and has high expectations for the 2025 season.
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#53 Sue Hillman
Click to Book your EpisodeSue Hillman is a pioneer in Athletic Training. Sue was the FIRST Head Athletic Trainer for BOTH men and womens sports in the NCAA back in 1982 at the University of Arizona. Sue was also the first woman athletic trainer in the NFL for the Pittsburg Steelers. The best i have ever been around, Sue worked last season for the Michigan Panthers of the UFL. She spent many years as a Teacher at AT Still University. For all Coaches, its a must listen when it comes to making your program and culture stronger by being on the same page as those that take care of your athletes.
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#52 Darius Matthews
Click to Book your EpisodeDarius Matthews is the Head Football Coach at Copper Hills High School in Utah. A first year Head Coach, Coach Matthews is bringing excitement, accountability and culture to a program that has not had a winning season since the school opened in 1995. Coach Matthews experience includes having played defensive line at Dixie State (Utah Tech) and 8 years as an assistant coach including 6 years as a Defensive Coordinator. Darius is entering his 9th year of Coaching
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#51 Jereme Jones
Click to Book your EpisodeJereme Jones is the Head Football Coach at Hampton High School in Nebraska. The Hampton Hawks play 6 man football. A unique opportunity to talk about the difference in scheme with 6 man compared to 11 man with the approach to Leadership, Team Building and Culture no different than other programs who play 11 man.
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#50 Roundtable 2
Click to Book your EpisodeAnthony Figueroa and Nate Tuatagaloa join the podcast for our second roundtable discussion. Anthony Figueroa is the Head Football Coach at Marcos De Niza High School in Arizona. Nate Tuatagaloa is the Head Football Coach at Fremont High School in Utah.
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#49 Grant Duff
Click to Book your EpisodeGrant Duff is the Defensive Coordinator at Idaho State University. Coach Duff spent his first 5 years coaching at the University of Utah before moving on to Weber State University, where he spent 11 years. His enthusiasm, knowledge and ability to build relationships will help Idaho State immensely.
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#48 Brock Olivo
Click to Book your EpisodeBrock Olivo is the Special Teams Assistant at the University of Missouri. He is back coaching at his Alma Mater where he set numerous records as a Running Back and has his Jersey Number retired. A former NFL Player, Brock has spent the past 20 years in the coaching profession. He has coached in Italy, at the collegiate level and NFL Level. He was the Special Teams Coordinator for the Denver Broncos in 2017.
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#47 Mike Bethea
Click to Book your EpisodeMike Bethea is the Linebackers coach at West Texas A&M University. He is a Letter winner and graduate of the University of Nevada where he also spent two different stints coaching at his alma mater. Coach Bethea has also coached at Washington State, TCU and OUAZ (Ottawa University Arizona). Mike is a great recruiter and focuses on building relationships and transparency.
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#46 Mike Nesbitt
Click to Book your EpisodeMike Nesbitt is the Offensive Coordinator at Houston Christian University. Coach Nesbitt started the program at OUAZ, Ottawa University in Arizona in 2017. He transformed the landscape in Arizona for local high school players to play in College. He carries on the foundations and the belief in Relationship Building and Recruiting to Houston Christian.
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#45 Ken Zampese
Click to Book your EpisodeKen Zampese is a Senior Offensive Assistant Coach for the Atlanta Falcons in the NFL. A longtime NFL Coordinator and Coach, Ken talks about Leadership, Development and the importance for coaches to self scout and break down opponent film the right way.
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#44 Tony Caviglia
Click to Book your EpisodeTony Caviglia is the Head Football Coach at Fresno City College in Fresno, California. Coach Caviglia is entering his 27th year as the Rams Head Football Coach. Coach has amassed 217 wins as a Head Coach and has never had a losing season. He was also the Head Football Coach at Chabot College and an assistant at USC, New Mexico State, Ohio State and Purdue.
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#43 Ryan McBrayer
Click to Book your EpisodeRyan McBrayer is the Head Football Coach at Sabino High School in Tucson, Arizona. He is the 2023 3A State Championship Coach. Coach McBrayer is a graduate of Sabino High School and has coached at the school for 13 years. He is entering his 9th season as the Head Coach. At 35 years old, Coach McBrayer has already established himself as one of the best Head Football Coaches in the state of Arizona
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#42 Floyd Keith
Click to Book your EpisodeFloyd Keith is the Former Head Football Coach at Howard and Rhode Island. Having spent 30 years as a Division 1A Football Coach, Coach Keith is the CEO of PPA Professional Services, a professional development and consulting group. Coach Keith also served as the President of the Black Coaches Association from 2001-2013. He is very instrumental in implementing alot of the procedures followed by the NCAA and Institutions when going through the hiring process of coaches.
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#41 Jeff Hecklinski
Click to Book your EpisodeJeff Hecklinski is the founder of S.A.V.A.G.E. He is a former College football coach that has coached at Arizona, Michigan, Illinois, Kansas and San Diego State among others. A QB at the University of Illinois, Jeff has developed his leadership through playing and coaching at the highest collegiate level. He is now taking that leadership knowledge to working professionals with his company S.A.V.A.G.E.
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#40 ROUNDTABLE
Click to Book your EpisodeWe have brought together 3 great coaches from the state of California to discuss multiple topics as it relates to issues that other coaches deal with on a daily basis. DeChon Burns is the Head Football Coach at Linfield Christian and a former college and NFL coach. Oscar McBride is the Head Football Coach at Murrieta Mesa High School, a public speaker and business owner. Kory Minor is the Head Football Coach at Bishop Amat as well as a mentor to many other coaches through his business. Take a listen to 2 USC Trojans and 2 Notre Dame Irish chop it up for an hour.
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#39 Robb Rogers
Click to Book your EpisodeRobb Rogers is the Former Head Strength and Conditioning Coach at the USC, Baylor, Middle Tennessee State and for the St. Louis Blues of the NHL. He is currently the Exercise Physiologist for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Acency. Robb's extensive experience at the collegiate, professional and private sector is unmatched.
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#38 Ron Hudson
Click to Book your EpisodeRon Hudson is the Offensive Line Coach at Utah Tech University. A longtime College Football Offensive Line Coach, Coach Hudson has coached for some GREAT Head Coaches. His wisdom and experience is second to none. Coach talks about offensive line play as well as the importance of the connection between coach/player, player/player and coach/coach.
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#37 Nate Tuatagaloa
Click to Book your EpisodeNate Tuatagaloa is the Head Football Coach at Fremont High School in Ogden, Utah. He is heading into his second year as the man in charge and finished his first season 8-4. Coach has a unique playing background playing college football at Southern Utah University and after injuries, transferred to Weber State where he was a Rugby Player. Nate's approach is about love, discipline, toughness and communication.
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#36 Bret McGatlin
Click to Book your EpisodeBret McGatlin is the Head Football Coach at Denver Christian School in Colorado. A longtime Head Football Coach, Coach McGatlin has had a lot of success by leading through a strong conviction and love for his players. Having grown up in a coaching family, Bret truly understands what it means to serve through teaching and coaching.
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#35 Preston Hadley
Click to Book your EpisodePreston Hadley is the Defensive Coordinator and Linebackers Coach at Northern Colorado University. A former BYU Football player, Coach Hadley coached at Weber State and BYU prior to becoming the DC at UNC. Selected to the 2024 NFL Coaching Academy with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Coach Hadley speaks about Player Aptitude, Gratitude and Recruiting the right young men.
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#34 Mo Cannon
Click to Book your EpisodeMo Cannon is the Head Football Coach at Weber High School in Pleasant View, Utah. A former Weber State Offensive Lineman, Mo is the youngest head coach in the state of Utah. Coach Cannon is going into his second season as Head Coach and his passion for the game and building leaders and men of character is unwavering.
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#33 Brandon Sanders
Click to Book your EpisodeBrandon Sanders is the Coordinator of Football Alumni and High School Relations for the University of Arizona Football Program. A former Safety at the U of A during the Desert Swarm Days, Brandon Played 6 years of Professional Football including 5 in the NFL. He was the Head Coach at Pueblo High School in Tucson, AZ for 6 Seasons from 2014-2019 and had a lot of success. He is a relationship man with the uncanny ability to bring those around him together.
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Helping coaches and athletes build leadership, culture, and accountability through proven systems — not just motivation.The More Than The Scoreboard Podcast is for coaches, athletic directors, and athletes who want to develop real leadership, build strong team culture, and create accountability that shows up on and off the field.Each episode delivers practical systems, frameworks, and real-world strategies drawn from the MTTS Leadership & Culture Development System, including The Standard 365, Athlete Leadership Workbook, 39 Character Trait System and The MTTS Leadership & Culture System™ .
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