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Murder, Not Murdering
by Murder, Not Murdering
A true crime podcast about murder and murdering, but we are not murderers. We promise. NEW EPISODES ON TUESDAYS!
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The Teeth & The Body in the Lab: The Parkman Murder Case & The Candyman: Ronald Clark O'Bryan
In this episode, Erin covers the murder case of Dr. George Parkman and the trial of Harvard professor John White Webster. It explores the disappearance, discovery of body parts, dental evidence, and the sensational trial. Then Autumn delves into the reason why we check our Halloween candy with the Candy Man Case. The tragic story of Timothy O'Bryan, who died after consuming poisoned Halloween candy given to him by his father, Ronald O'Bryan.TakeawaysForensic evidence played a crucial role in convicting the murderer.The trial attracted widespread attention and public interest. Early forensic evidence, such as dental identification, played a crucial role in the Parkman-Webster Trial.The Candy Man Case highlights the disturbing reality that danger can come from someone known and trusted, not just from strangers.Chapters00:00 The Disappearance of Dr. George Parkman05:26 Discovery of Body Parts and Dental Evidence08:53 Investigation and Suspicions12:08 Webster's Arrest and Evidence Collection27:51 Webster's Indictment and Trial30:49 The Parkman-Webster Trial34:25 The Verdict and Sentencing43:38 The Candy Man Case
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Infamous Axe Murderers: Lizzie Borden & Thomas Goss
This week on Murder, Not Murdering, Autumn and Erin take a trip into the dark folklore of New England, where two infamous axe murderers became the stuff of legend.First, Autumn revisits one of America’s most notorious unsolved mysteries: Lizzie Borden. On a sweltering August morning in 1892, Andrew and Abby Borden were found brutally murdered inside their Fall River, Massachusetts home. Lizzie, the daughter of the victims, was accused of wielding the axe—but did she really do it? More than a century later, the question remains.Then Erin takes us back to 1785 Connecticut for the strange and unsettling story of Thomas Goss, a man whose violent crime, bizarre behavior, and subsequent inquest raised questions about madness, murder, and the law. His case offers a glimpse into how early New England communities understood insanity—and what happened when a murderer was believed to be beyond his own control.Two cases. Two axes. Two very different eras.From whispered accusations and courtroom drama to madness, murder, and the gallows, The Witch, The Axe, & the Gallows explores how these two New England killers became part of American true-crime history. Murder, Not Murdering — because sometimes the legend is only the beginning.
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The Hammer, The Medium, and the Missing Brother / The Kidnapping of Patty Hearst
This week on Murder, Not Murdering, Erin brings us back to Spokane, Washington, in 1919 for the strange and unsettling case of W.H. McNutt. A missing brother, a hammer, and a medium all become pieces of a bizarre mystery that captured the attention of Spokane—and left behind more questions than answers.Then Autumn dives into one of the most infamous kidnappings in American history: the kidnapping of Patty Hearst. In 1974, the 19-year-old heiress was abducted from her Berkeley apartment by the Symbionese Liberation Army. What happened next would become a media sensation, sparking questions about loyalty, coercion, radical politics, and the mysterious transformation of a kidnapping victim into one of the most controversial figures of the 1970s.Two cases. Two very different eras. And two stories that prove sometimes the strangest crimes are the ones that refuse to fit neatly into a box.Murder, Not Murdering — new episodes every Tuesday.
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Darlie Routier: The Mother on Death Row
This week on Murder, Not Murdering, we’re diving into the deeply disturbing and still highly debated case of Darlie Routier.In 1996, Darlie Routier called 911 after her two young sons were brutally attacked inside their Texas home. What followed was an investigation filled with unanswered questions, conflicting evidence, and a trial that would capture national attention.Darlie was convicted of killing her sons and sentenced to death—but decades later, questions surrounding the evidence, the investigation, and what really happened that night continue to fuel debate.Join us as we walk through the timeline, the evidence, the trial, and the questions that remain.
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The Mirage: The Tavern That Set A Trap
What happens when a group of reporters decides that the best way to expose corruption is to stop reporting—and start bartending?In 1970s Chicago, a team of investigative journalists opened a tavern in one of the city’s toughest neighborhoods. But this wasn’t your average neighborhood bar. The Mirage Tavern was a carefully constructed undercover operation, designed to find out exactly what happened when city inspectors, police officers, politicians, and other officials thought nobody was watching.For months, the reporters poured drinks, kept the books, and quietly documented a system of bribery and corruption that operated with remarkable ease. What they uncovered would become one of the most audacious pieces of undercover journalism in Chicago history—and prove that sometimes, the best way to expose a crooked system is to let it walk right through your front door.This week on Murder, Not Murdering, we’re going behind the bar at The Mirage: The Tavern That Set a Trap—where the drinks were real, the reporters were undercover, and the corruption was very much on the record.
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Murder on the Dance Floor: Audrey Jacob Kills
Murder on the Dance Floor: Audrey Jacob KillsA night of dancing. A sudden confrontation. A deadly shot.In this episode of Murder, Not Murdering, we travel back to the Jazz Age for the sensational case of Audrey Jacob, a young woman who found herself charged with murder after a deadly encounter on the dance floor.What happened that night—and how did Audrey Jacob manage to get away with murder?The newspapers had plenty to say. Now, let’s look at the facts.New episodes are out every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts
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The Louisville Torture House of 1924
The Louisville Torture House of 1924 is a true crime story unlike any other.When businessman Richard Heaton is found dead, the man who pulled the trigger insists it was self-defense. But as investigators begin peeling back the layers, they uncover a horrifying secret hidden inside a Louisville home—a place that newspapers would soon call The Louisville Torture House.What follows is a case filled with kidnappings, torture, shocking courtroom testimony, mysterious crimes, and twists that seem too unbelievable to be true. Was William Gates an innocent victim who fought for his life, or was he hiding a darker past? And just how far did Richard Heaton’s violent reach extend?Join Erin and Autumn as they separate fact from sensational headlines, explore the evidence, and uncover one of the most bizarre and forgotten true crime cases of the 1920s.If you love historical true crime, obscure murder cases, courtroom drama, and stories with unbelievable twists, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.New episodes of Murder, Not Murdering are released every Tuesday.
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Lorena Bobbitt: The Story You Thought You Knew
Everyone remembers the headline. Everyone remembers the joke. But very few people remember what actually happened.In 1993, the Lorena Bobbitt case became one of the biggest media spectacles in American history. Television, tabloids, and late-night comedians turned a deeply complicated case into a cultural punchline, leaving millions with a version of events that often overlooked the evidence presented in court.In this episode of Murder, Not Murdering, Erin follows the case from beginning to end: Lorena’s early life, her marriage to John Wayne Bobbitt, the allegations of domestic and sexual violence, the night of June 23, 1993, the criminal investigations, both trials, and the media frenzy that shaped public perception for decades.This isn’t a story about taking sides. It’s about separating fact from fiction, examining the evidence, and understanding how one of America’s most infamous true crime stories became so widely misunderstood.
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Pride Edition: Brandon Teena & Billy London – The Black Dahlia of West Hollywood
In this Pride Edition of Murder, Not Murdering, Erin and Autumn explore two of the most heartbreaking LGBTQIA+ true crime cases in American history.Autumn examines the life and murder of Brandon Teena, the young transgender man whose 1993 murder became a landmark case in the fight for transgender rights, LGBTQ+ visibility, and justice. She discusses the events leading up to his death, the investigation, the trial, and the lasting impact his story continues to have decades later.Then Erin investigates the haunting 1990 murder of Billy London, a case that became known as The Black Dahlia of West Hollywood. For decades, Billy’s killer remained unidentified while rumors, dead ends, and unanswered questions surrounded the investigation. Then, nearly 30 years later, determined detectives and an unlikely group of civilian sleuths uncovered the truth, proving that even the coldest cases can still be solved.This episode explores cold case investigations, forensic breakthroughs, LGBTQ+ history, hate crimes, and the pursuit of justice while honoring the lives of two victims whose stories deserve to be remembered.If you enjoy true crime, cold cases, historical murders, LGBTQ+ history, and respectful, research-driven storytelling, this episode is for you.Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of murder, hate crimes, anti-LGBTQIA+ violence, sexual assault, and graphic descriptions of violence. Listener discretion is strongly advised.
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The Survivor in The Woods: Rebecca Wight & Claudia Brenner and The Chameleon Killer: Andrew Cunanan
A weekend camping trip. A shocking act of hatred. A killer obsessed with reinvention.This week on Murder, Not Murdering, Erin tells the heartbreaking story of Rebecca Wight and Claudia Brenner, a couple seeking peace in the Pennsylvania wilderness whose lives were forever changed by a brutal anti-gay attack. Follow their journey from a joyful camping trip to a fight for survival, and learn how Claudia’s courage helped bring justice while Rebecca’s legacy continues to inspire decades later.Then Autumn dives into the life of Andrew Cunanan, the charming con artist who spent years creating new identities and weaving elaborate lies. As his carefully crafted world began to unravel, Cunanan embarked on a deadly spree that triggered one of the largest manhunts in modern American history. From his early deceptions to the murder of fashion icon Gianni Versace and his dramatic final days, this is the story of a man who desperately wanted to be someone else—and the devastating consequences that followed.Two unforgettable stories of identity, violence, survival, and the lives forever changed in their wake.New episodes of Murder, Not Murdering are released every Monday.
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The Cliff at North Head: The Scott Johnson Murder & The Newport Naval Sex Scandal of 1919
For this special Pride Month episode of Murder, Not Murdering, we examine two chilling stories connected by prejudice, power, and the long fight for justice.First, Autumn tells the story of Scott Johnson, an American mathematician whose body was discovered at the base of a cliff near Sydney, Australia in 1988. Authorities quickly ruled his death a suicide, but his family refused to accept the conclusion. What followed was a decades-long quest for answers that uncovered a pattern of anti-gay violence, institutional failures, and a shocking truth. We also discuss the latest developments in the case through May 2026.Then Erin takes us back to 1919 and one of the strangest scandals in U.S. history: the Newport Naval Sex Scandal. Under the direction of Navy officials during Franklin D. Roosevelt’s tenure as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, young sailors were ordered to go undercover and entrap suspected homosexual men. The investigation spiraled into a national controversy, congressional hearings, and accusations that the government had gone dangerously too far.From a suspicious death on the cliffs of Sydney to a government-sanctioned moral panic in Newport, this episode explores how fear and discrimination have shaped lives, investigations, and history itself.Some stories are about murder. Others are about the systems that allow injustice to flourish. This episode is both.
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The Murder of Paul Broussard & the Crime That Changed Houston and The Murder of Moriah Wilson
This week on Murder, Not Murdering, we’re covering two heartbreaking murders that captivated communities and sparked conversations far beyond the crimes themselves.Erin tells the story of Paul Broussard, a 27-year-old gay banker whose brutal murder in Houston, Texas, became a defining moment in the fight against anti-LGBTQ+ violence. During Pride Month, we look back at the climate that led to Paul’s death, the activism that followed, and why his story remains important more than three decades later.Then, Autumn examines the shocking 2022 murder of elite cyclist Moriah Wilson, a rising star in the gravel racing world whose life was cut short in a case involving jealousy, obsession, and an international manhunt. From the investigation to the trial that gripped the nation, we break down the facts behind one of the most talked-about crimes in recent sports history.Join us as we explore these tragic cases with historical context, careful research, and the compassion they deserve.In this episode: LGBTQ+ history, hate crimes, Pride Month, cycling, true crime, criminal investigations, trials, justice, and the lives behind the headlines.#TrueCrimePodcast #MurderNotMurdering #PaulBroussard #MoriahWilson #PrideMonth
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The Juliette Lake Murders & Sex, Scandal, and the Seaside Murder: The Rattenbury Murder
On this week's episode, Autumn's case involves the brutal killing of two college students at a quiet Georgia lake, with the perpetrator's identity and motive shrouded in mystery. The investigation eventually leads to a shocking revelation involving the killer's own father, an FBI agent.Next Erin delves into one of the most scandalous murder cases of the 1930's: the death of architect Francis Rattenbury. What begins as a glamorous seaside romance spiraled into jealousy, betrayal, tabloid obsession, and murder involving Alma Rattenbury and her much younger chauffer and lover George Stoner.From shocking crimes to salacious headlines, Murder, Not Murdering brings you the stories that blur the line between scandal and true crime.New episodes out every Monday.TakeawaysThe random and senseless nature of the murders challenges the conventional understanding of motive and violence.The involvement of the killer's father, an FBI agent, adds a shocking twist to the investigation. Parental responsibility and the shock of discovering a child's involvement in a heinous crimeThe sensational and scandalous nature of high-profile murder trialsChapters00:00 Introduction to Seattle's Beauty and Coffee Culture05:49 Transition to the True Crime Story58:07 The Seaside Murder Case: John Rattenbury's Legacy
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The Billionaire, the Fire, & the Nurse: Murder in Monaco and The Emma Walker Murder
This week on Murder, Not Murdering, Erin dives into the shocking true story behind The Billionaire, The Fire, & The Nurse — the twisted case of Ted Maher and the infamous Murder in Monaco. Inspired by the headlines and the explosive Netflix documentary, this episode unpacks the deadly hospital fire that killed billionaire Edmond Safra, the suspicious circumstances surrounding nurse Ted Maher, and the shocking developments that led to another arrest in 2025. Was it an accident, a cover-up, or something far more sinister?Then Autumn tells the heartbreaking story of Emma Walker, a Tennessee teenager whose life was tragically cut short by a controlling ex-boyfriend who refused to let her move on. A devastating case of obsession, manipulation, and violence that continues to resonate years later.From billionaire intrigue and international scandal to one of the most tragic teen murder cases in recent memory, this episode explores two unforgettable true crime stories with all the twists, courtroom drama, and chilling details you expect from Murder, Not Murdering.#TrueCrime #TrueCrimePodcast #TedMaher #MurderInMonaco #EmmaWalker #NetflixDocumentary #CrimePodcast #MurderNotMurderingTakeawaysMissing people casesAnimal welfare and true crimeThe mysterious death of Edmund Safra and the involvement of Ted MaherObsession and manipulation in relationshipsTeen dating violence and its warning signsChapters00:00 Introduction and Feedback16:52 The Billionaire, The Fire, and the Nurse in Monaco48:40 The Haunting Murder of Emma Walker
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Till Death Do They Part: The Betty Broderick Story & The Death Cap Mushroom Murders: Erin Patterson
A bitter divorce turns deadly. A family lunch ends in suspected poisoning. And both stories are making headlines again.This week on Murder, Not Murdering, Autumn dives into the infamous Betty Broderick case following Betty’s recent death, revisiting the shocking murders that inspired “Till Death Do They Part.” Once labeled America’s most notorious scorned wife, Betty’s story of betrayal, obsession, custody battles, and revenge continues to divide public opinion decades later.Then Erin unpacks the chilling Death Cap Mushroom Murders and the bizarre case of Erin Patterson, the Australian woman accused of serving a deadly mushroom lunch that left multiple family members dead. With a major new update at the end of the episode, the story continues to take shocking turns.From crimes of passion to alleged poisoning, this episode explores two women at the center of media frenzy, courtroom drama, and public fascination.New episodes of Murder, Not Murdering drop every Monday.TakeawaysFrustration and anger over a murder conviction being overturnedThe legacy of a murderer and the impact on future generationsThe fascination with famous cases and the desire for a deep dive into true crimeThe unraveling of a high-profile divorce leading to a tragic event Betty Broderick case: The case raises uncomfortable questions about emotional damage, responsibility for violence, and the dangerous consequences of understanding someone's pain.The Erin Patterson Death Cap Mushroom Murders case: The deliberate poisoning of guests at a lunch gathering resulted in three deaths and one survivor, leading to a complex legal battle and ongoing public fascination.Chapters00:00 Frustration and Anger13:32 Unraveling of a High-Profile Divorce32:58 The Betty Broderick Case44:30 The Erin Patterson Death Cap Mushroom Murders
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The Butcher Baker: Robert Hansen & The Girl Who Never Made it to the Store: Sofia Juarez
This episode covers the update to the Kristen Smart case, the chilling story of the Butcher Baker: Robert Hanson. It highlights the importance of survivor stories, the impact of bravery, and the failure of systems to protect vulnerable women. Next Autumn delves into the unsolved disappearance of Sofia Juarez, a haunting missing child case that has impacted the community deeply. It explores the investigative efforts, theories, emotional impact, and renewed investigative efforts in the case.TakeawaysSurvivor stories matterThe importance of believing marginalized womenThe impact of Cindy Paulson's braveryThe failure of systems to protect vulnerable women Unsolved disappearance of Sofia JuarezImpact of missing child cases on communitiesChapters00:00 The Update on the Kristen Smart Case06:25 The Butcher Baker17:25 The Capture of Robert Hanson39:30 The Disappearance of Sofia Juarez51:14 Emotional Impact and Hope59:18 Renewed Investigative Efforts
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Missing: Brooke Wilberger & The Wedding Gift Bomb: Curry and Elsie Thomas
This episode delves into the mysterious Pacific Northwest disappearance of Brooke Wilberger, gone in a flash. There was an extensive search and investigation efforts, and the unfolding of the case with new leads and suspects. It highlights how investigators catch her killer and the discovery of Brooke Wilberger's remains. In the second case, Erin discusses the details of the 1936 wedding gift bomb murder case. Curry and Elsie Thomas were just married and picking up what they thought was a wedding gift from the post office only to have it explode in their car. This becomes a federal case and left investigators to quite literally pick up the pieces to solve it.
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A true crime podcast about murder and murdering, but we are not murderers. We promise. NEW EPISODES ON TUESDAYS!
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