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Noncompliant - the podcast
by Anne Borden King
Noncompliant is a podcast about autistic rights and neurodiversity. Host Anne Borden King interviewing authors, advocates and others working for human rights and autistic acceptance.
Episodes
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Episode 50. Remembering Steve Silberman: A conversation with Shannon Rosa
In this, the final episode of Noncompliant, I spoke with Shannon Rosa, editor of Thinking Person’s Guide to Autism. She shared her memories of her good friend Steve Silberman, author of the groundbreaking history of autism & the neurodiversity movement, Neurotribes, which featured Shannon and her...
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Episode 49. Transforming schools and autism therapy: A conversation with Dr. Nancy Marshall
I had an amazing conversation with Dr. Nancy Marshall, a therapist and researcher, who previously worked as Child and Youth Counselor in Toronto public schools. We discussed her new, qualitative research on autistic people’s experiences with and perception of ABA. We also talked about the impact…
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Episode 48. A journey to transform special education: Catching up with Guy Stephens at Alliance Against Seclusion & Restraint
I was honoured to speak with the amazing Guy Stephens, founder of the Alliance Against Seclusion & Restraint about what’s new in human rights advocacy for autistic & developmentally disabled students. AASR has a groundbreaking new program, Reframing Behaviour, in partnership with the Crisis...
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Episode 46. Dr. Jackie Ryan on inclusive research & service models for intellectually disabled Canadians
I was so excited to speak with Dr. Ryan, a trailblazer in Canadian autism research! Her work was the first participatory autism research in Canada and it has inspired more. We talk about inclusion, autonomy, research methods, our collaborative work and how to improve services for intellectually...
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Episode 45. Willowbrook, whistleblowers & human rights: Carl Elliott on his new book, The Occasional Human Sacrifice
Professor Carl Elliott’s new book The Occasional Human Sacrifice, is about whistleblowers in medicine. In this episode, we discuss the whistleblowers at Willowbrook, a residential institution for autistic and developmentally disabled people that was exposed for human rights abuses in 1972. We…
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Episode 44. Filmmakers Tony Spiridakis & Alex Plank on the new film “Ezra”, autism and representation
I was thrilled to talk with Tony Spiridakis and Alex Plank about the new film Ezra, which Tony wrote and produced alongside director Tony Goldwyn, and which Alex associate produced, acted and consulted on. (Read my review of Ezra here.) We take a look behind the scenes at how the film was…
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Episode 42. “How do we break down the barriers?” Anne Borden King, interviewed by Sean Pickard on Voices for Abilities
While the podcast is on a brief hiatus as I finish my book (yay!), I’m sharing this interview that Shawn Pickard hosted with me for Voices for Abilities radio. We discussed how Canadian autism policy needs to move from a charity perspective to a rights perspective and how the inclusion and...
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Episode 41. The impact of pandemic-related school closures: A conversation with Molly Colvin & Tannahill Glen
I spoke with Dr. Molly Colvin and Dr. Tannahill Glen about their new book, Altered Trajectories: How the COVID-19 Pandemic Impacted Children’s Education, Mental Health and Neurodevelopment, co-authored with Dr. Jennifer Linton Reesman. We discussed the educational impact of school closures, as…
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Episode 40. Keenan Wellar from LiveWorkPlay: Transforming Canada’s housing & programs for intellectually disabled Canadians
I had the honour of speaking with Keenan Wellar, founder of LiveWorkPlay about the organization’s work helping the community welcome and include people with intellectual disabilities, autistic persons, and those with a dual diagnosis in housing, work and leisure. LiveWorkPlay is a model for the...
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Episode 39. “What outcomes are we looking at?” Talking with Dr. Andrew Whitehouse about the shifting course of autism research & services
I spoke with Dr. Andrew Whitehouse from the University of Western Australia about autistic life, gut hype, same-foods, the problem of pseudoscience and the shifting nature of autism research. Listen to the podcast by playing the audio file below, or on streaming sites like Spotify, Stitcher or...
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Episode 38. “It’s hard to un-ring the bell”: Talking about the vaccine-autism myth (& more) with Dr. Paul Offit
I spoke with vaccine researcher and expert Dr. Paul Offit, whose book Autism’s False Prophets explores false narratives about autism, including the myth that the MMR vaccine causes autism. We talked about that history, as well as the present challenge of the current anti-vaccine movement and the...
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Episode 37. Summer of Hell
I wrote this poem about the summer and our beautiful earth
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Episode 35. What happened to social psychiatry? A conversation with Professor Matthew Smith
. In this episode, I spoke with health historian Matthew Smith from the University of Strathclyde. We discussed his new book, The First Resort: The History of Social Psychiatry in the United States, as well as neurodiversity, the promise of Universal Basic Income and more. Listen to the podcast…
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Episode 34. “Compliance is the wrong goal…we need connection and compassion”: Guy Stephens & Chantelle Hyde from the Alliance Against Seclusion and Restraint
I spoke with Guy Stephens, executive director of the Alliance Against Seclusion and Restraint (AASR) and Chantelle Hyde, lead Canadian Volunteer with The Alliance Against Restraint and Seclusion and co-founder of the Canadian Coalition Against Seclusion and Restraint in Schools, founded early in...
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Episode 33. The shifting landscape of autism services: Therapist Neurodiversity Collective’s Julie Roberts
Today I spoke with Julie Roberts, founder of Therapist Neurodiversity Collective (TNDC). We talked about the ABA industry’s troubling attempts to dominate autism services and funding, as well as the culture shift needed to increase support for neurodiversity-affirming autism supports and…
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Episode 32. The Lighthouse
I wrote this short spoken word about the experience of grief after all we’ve been through in the pandemic. It’s really just a story, without a message except: we need to talk about our feelings, perhaps now more than ever.
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Episode 31. Talking with professor Alan Levinovitz about pseudoscience and the myth of “natural”
Today I spoke with Professor Alan Levinovitz, author of Natural: How Faith in Nature’s Goodness Leads to Harmful Fads, Unjust Laws, and Flawed Science. We talked about the myth of the natural, pseudoscience, neurodiversity and post-pandemic life. Listen to the podcast on the audio link below.…
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Episode 30. The Genesis 2 “bleach cult,” past and present : A conversation with pseudoscience de-bunker Melissa Eaton
“Basically they’re slowly being poisoned with a corrosive agent.” It is difficult to hear about what happens to children who are trapped by the so-called bleach cult, a multi-level marketing scheme that has spread across the continents, promising “cures” for everything from broken bones and…
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Episode 29. Talking about Covid, monkeypox, health disinfo & “the 2022 effect” with virologist Alex Greninger
I had an amazing conversation with University of Washington virologist Dr Alex Greninger, whose team innovated one of the earliest Covid tests. We talked about how they developed the test; public health policy; the current monkeypox crisis; other viruses & “the 2022 effect”; and the virological…
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Episode 28. Is there an Autism Industrial Complex? Interview with Professor Alicia Broderick
My guest this episode is Alicia Broderick, author of the new book The Autism Industrial Complex: How Branding, Marketing, and Capital Investment Turned Autism Into Big Business. Her book traces the cultural, political, and economic history of autism. We talk about the history of autism services,...
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Episode 27. Neurodiversity Libraries, activism & community-building: Interview with Lei Wiley Mydske
In this episode I speak with the amazing Lei Wiley Mydske, founder of the neurodiversity library movement and creator of the Neurodivergent Narwals. We talk about neurodiversity libraries (including how to start one!), community-building, disability justice, activism, hope and more. Listen to the...
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Episode 26. “The most effective way to stop it is public pressure”: Talking about Spectrum10K with Irish autistic activist Ryan Hendry
I spoke with autistic advocate Ryan Hendry about Spectrum10K, a currently-proposed project by UK business interests to collect DNA data on autistic children and adults for a database to sell to companies for commercial ventures. Ryan and I discussed the ethical implications of the project and...
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Episode 25. “There are a lot of areas autism researchers have viewed as deficits that can actually confer advantages”: Talking with MIT researchers Anila D’Mello and Liron Rozenkrantz
I had an amazing conversation with Drs Anila D’Mello and Liron Rozenkrantz from MIT about their research review and other work about autism, rationality and cognition! Listen to the episode by clicking the audio file below or on Spotify, Stitcher or iTunes here. Read the transcript below the…
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Episode 24. “If you look at how much has changed in the last 5 years, we’ve definitely made progress”: A conversation with autistic lawyer Haley Moss
I had such a great conversation with autistic lawyer Haley Moss about her book Great Minds Think Differently. In this episode, we discuss neurodiversity in law and the workplace, autistic hyperfocus and Haley’s upcoming book, The Young Autistic Adult’s Independence Handbook (launching November…
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Episode 23. On conflicts of interest in autism research: Interview with Kristen Bottema-Beutel and Micheal Sandbank
In this episode, I talk with Professors Kristen Bottema-Beutel and Micheal Sandbank, who have done a systematic review and meta-analysis of 151 group design studies of interventions for young autistic children. For this work, Dr. Sandbank was awarded the Young Investigator Award in 2021 from the...
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Episode 22. “Co-Regulation is Key”: A Conversation with Occupational Therapist Greg Santucci
In this episode, I talk with Occupational Therapist Greg Santucci about the problems with ABA from his perspective as a practitioner, as well as new and better approaches in schools and the challenges of the post-pandemic period in education. An interesting and inspiring conversation! Listen to…
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Episode 21. “I worry FDA Expanded Access will become a new way of bringing products to market”: Talking with Jeremy Snyder and Leigh Turner about “stem cells for autism”
In this episode, we discuss the basics of stem cells, medical tourism, false claims about stem cells as an autism treatment, bioethical issues within the field of stem cells and methodological issues in autism research—with discussion of Duke University’s Marcus Center for Autism and The Stem…
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Episode 20. The role of private equity and lobbying in ABA funding: Talking with investigative journalist John Summers
John Summers’ recent expose in The Nation looks at the relationship between private equity companies and the autism service Applied Behaviour Analytics (or ABA) in Massachusetts, where he lives. In this episode, John and I talk about the business of ABA and the problematic industries built around...
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Episode 19. A neurodivergent guide to your radiation treatments
I wrote this recently, about radiation treatment for cancer. To listen, click the audio file below. .
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“The things we don’t talk about”: A Cross-Interview with CripChat UK!
I had the great pleasure and honour of talking with Shabaaz and Pete from CripChat UK, on their podcast. We discussed autism pseudoscience, the Sia film controversy and much more. Listen to the podcast right here by clicking the audio link below or on Stitcher here or on iTunes here . Transcript:...
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Episode 18. Half a Woman
. I wrote this after my recent surgery. Audio here, transcript below. . . Transcript: Transcript_Half a Woman_2020
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Episode 17. “Most of the victims have to move on from these pathological relations”: Interview with Dr. Marc D. Feldman about medical child abuse
I had a very informative and thought-provoking conversation with Dr. Marc D. Feldman, an expert on medical child abuse and factitious disorder. We talked about medical child abuse, including “Munchausen-by-proxy” and the abuse of autistic children through autism pseudoscience. We also talked…
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Episode 16. Heaven and earth
A poem I wrote about having cancer treatments
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Episode 15. “Everyone Can Do Something to Stop Autism Pseudoscience”: Interview with Melissa Eaton
In this podcast, I interviewed Melissa Eaton, one of the first (and most effective) campaigners against autism pseudoscience. We talked about phony autism cures and what we can all do to stop the people selling them. Listen to the podcast right here by clicking the audio link below. Listen to…
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Episode 14. “Punishments and rewards can get one thing, under certain conditions – temporary compliance” Interview with Alfie Kohn
This is a fascinating interview with Alfie Kohn, who has been researching and writing about education, parenting, authority and co-operative learning for years, driving home a simple fact: rewards and punishment are two sides of the same coin –and they’re not helping us to raise the kind of...
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Episode 13. “Neurodivergent individuals challenge society to question exactly what normalcy is, if it even exists to begin with” –Interview with Gaby from A4A
In this podcast, Gaby and I discussed racism in the education system, the disability hierarchy, media bias and representations of the self-advocacy movement, eye contact and cultural norms, the power of social media, the situation in Ontario and more! Listen to the podcast at the audio link…
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Episode 12. “We need much better standards of research in autism intervention”: An interview with Dr. Damian Milton
In this broad-ranging interview, Dr. Damian Milton & I discuss the theory of the “double empathy problem”; hyperfocus/flow state; autistic parenting; the medical versus social model of disability; the subjectivity of outcome measures; and the diverse ways in which autism itself is framed and...
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Episode 11. “Creating a home environment that works for everybody”: Interview with Shannon Rosa
“”There’s a lot of people out there who are going to try and tell you what your kid needs, but really, autistic people are the ones who actually do know.” I had a fascinating conversation with Shannon Rosa, co-founder and editor of The Thinking Person’s Guide to Autism, about parenting, autism...
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Episode 10. Trauma-informed Mindfulness, Teaching & Care: Interview with Dr Sam Himelstein
I recently talked with Sam Himelstein, the president of the Center for Adolescent Studies , about the pitfalls of pop-culture “mindfulness” and the importance of trauma-informed care. We also talked about the problems with behaviourist approaches that focus only on measuring outcomes for…
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Episode 9. “Why don’t we work autistic people into inherently fantastic scenarios like a space opera or a globetrotting adventure story?” Interview with comedian Michael McCreary
I interviewed 23-year-old comedian Michael McCreary about media portrayals, comedy & so much more! Listen to the audio link below or on Stitcher here or on iTunes here. Read the transcript, below the audio file. Transcript by Julie Ann Lee: Transcript_McCreary_Noncompliant Bio Michael began...
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Episode 8. Disrupting the Autism Services Market: Interview with Foundations for Divergent Minds founder Oswin Latimer
Today’s guest is Oswin Latimer, co-founder of Foundations for Divergent Minds, a framework designed by autistic and neurodivergent people for use by families and professionals. FDM works on the principle that when a child struggles it is because their surroundings need to be adjusted–and…
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Episode 7. “We don’t even need to reinvent the wheel: the wheel’s there”: Interview with Cal Montgomery
I spoke with human rights activist Cal Montgomery, a survivor of residential institutions and, after institutionalization. Cal describes how the institutional model is replicated in group home settings, even when they have a veneer of independent living. As he observes: “It’s really not that hard...
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