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nondriver
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30% of people in the US & Canada can't or don't drive.nondriver is a podcast about the lives and stories of those people, hosted by Anna Zivarts and Devin Silvernail. Every episode, we talk to people who navigate a world built for drivers, not as a lifestyle experiment, but as a permanent reality. Disabled people, older adults, low-income riders, rural nondrivers, and transit advocates who have been telling the truth about car dependency long before it became a talking point.The transportation conversation is changing. But most of it still centers people who chose to go car-free. This show centers the people who never had the choice, and have the clearest view of what the system actually costs.New episodes every week.Questions? [email protected] is a production of <a rel="noop
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Anna Zivarts on Why Nondrivers Should Lead the Urbanist Movement
The urbanist movement loves to talk about car-free living. What it talks about less is the people who never had a choice. Anna Zivarts has spent her career building the case that those people shouldn't be a footnote to this conversation. They're the ones who should be leading it.Anna Zivarts is the founder of Nondrivers Alliance and author of When Driving Is Not an Option: Steering Away from Car Dependency. Anna co-created the Week Without Driving challenge and directed the Disability Mobility Initiative at Disability Rights Washington.Chapters: [00:00] Introduction [03:17] When the union said "become a researcher" [06:12] Coming to embrace disability & identity[11:58] The book as an organizing tool [16:13] The burden of relying on others for rides [25:56] Car-free by choice vs nondriver by default [36:20] Sustainable advocacyAnna's bookWhen Driving Is Not an Option: Steering Away From Car [email protected] by Anna Zivarts and Devin Silvernail. This episode was produced by Devin Silvernail.Questions? email [email protected] on YouTubehttps://youtube.com/@nondriverFollow us on [email protected] is a production of Nondrivers Alliance. More info: https://nondrivers.orgPick up a copy of Anna's book When Driving is Not An Option: Steering Away from Car Dependency. https://annazivarts.com/
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What Does it Mean to be a Nondriver "by Default?"
Most people who talk about transportation alternatives have chosen to give up their car. Devin Silvernail never had that option. After a lifetime of living car-free by default, he focused his energy on fighting for equitable mobility and mobility safety improvements from inside City Hall. He reflects on organizing from within city government, and why it's important to have both an inside and outside strategy.Devin Silvernail is a policy designer and equitable mobility advocate, born legally blind with Nystagmus. He did constituent services work in SF Supervisor David Campos's office, then served as Policy Director for Seattle City Councilmember Tammy Morales from 2020 to 2024. In 2024, he and his family relocated to Nantes, France. He is co-host and producer of Nondrivers Alliance Podcast.Chapters:[00:00] Introduction[02:05] Growing Up With Low Vision in the Suburbs[06:51] From Neighborhood Advocate to City Hall Insider[19:52] Why We Left: The Full Cost of Car-Dependent Living[25:04] Life in France and What Political Will Can Do[34:45] Nondriver by Default: Who This Show Is For[38:24] Disabled People as Oracles of the FutureFind Devin on Bluesky @devinsilvernail.bsky.social and YouTube @devinsilvernailHosted by Anna Zivarts and Devin Silvernail. This episode was produced by Devin Silvernail.Questions? email [email protected] on YouTubehttps://youtube.com/@nondriverFollow us on [email protected] is a production of Nondrivers Alliance. More info: https://nondrivers.orgPick up a copy of Anna's book When Driving is Not An Option: Steering Away from Car Dependency. https://annazivarts.com/
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30% of people in the US & Canada can't or don't drive.nondriver is a podcast about the lives and stories of those people, hosted by Anna Zivarts and Devin Silvernail. Every episode, we talk to people who navigate a world built for drivers, not as a lifestyle experiment, but as a permanent reality. Disabled people, older adults, low-income riders, rural nondrivers, and transit advocates who have been telling the truth about car dependency long before it became a talking point.The transportation conversation is changing. But most of it still centers people who chose to go car-free. This show centers the people who never had the choice, and have the clearest view of what the system actually costs.New episodes every week.Questions? [email protected] is a production of <a rel="noop
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