Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher

Max and Annabel are in town, and it’s wedding week! In this conversation, Zach and Jill sit down with them to talk about what it actually feels like to step into a lifelong covenant at 19 and 20, why modern culture discourages marriage, and why they believe covenant is still one of the most beautiful, grounding gifts God gave humanity. It’s funny, honest, and deeply hopeful: especially for young couples trying to build something real in a culture that keeps people perpetually “uncommitted.”

A break from the usual, Zach and Jill sit down with two of their longtime mentors and friends, Mac and Mary Owens (Global Directors of Celebrate Recovery). It’s a raw, powerful conversation about the cost of secrecy, the freedom of confession, and how God can take the darkest parts of a story and turn them into the DNA of a movement that blesses generations. If you’re stuck in the shame cycle, hiding, or convinced you’re too far gone, this episode is a reminder that the gospel runs straight toward the broken, and healing begins when you step into the light.

Today Zach & Jill visit one of the most human, and most holy, moments in the Gospel of Mark. In Mark 14:26–42, Jesus leaves the table, returns to the Mount of Olives, and enters Gethsemane. He tells the disciples they will all fall away. Peter insists he never will. And then Jesus does the unthinkable: He falls to the ground and prays for the cup to pass, while choosing the Father’s will anyway.

Brandon’s back, just in time for one of the most important meals in Scripture where Jesus sits down with the disciples for Passover. Zach, Jill, and Brandon discuss why meals are everywhere in the Bible (from Eden to Exodus to the King’s table), and why communion isn’t just a “symbol” or a routine, it’s a weekly entrance into the story that forms our loves, confronts our pride, and binds us to one another as the body of Christ.

Mark 14 opens with a dark cloud: the leaders are plotting in secret, Judas is looking for an opportunity, and Jesus is days away from the cross. But right in the middle of it, a woman walks into a dinner and does something that looks reckless—an act that ends up becoming one of the most prophetic in the entire Gospel. In this episode, Zach and Jill walk through Mark 14 and show why this isn’t just “sentimental devotion.” Mary pours out what amounts to a year’s wages—likely a family heirloom, possibly their security—and Jesus calls it beautiful because it’s preparing Him for burial.

Jill has almost no voice, and Brandon is out. Zach and Jill finish Mark 13 with one of the most discussed moments in the Gospels. They read Mark 13:24–37 and ask the big question: Is Jesus describing a future headline event, or is He pulling from Old Testament “apocalyptic” language and pointing to something the disciples would recognize—especially through Daniel 7? They pull the discussion to the ultimate not-yet now hope: Jesus is coming back, and while the Kingdom is still to come, it's also happening right now and we need to live like it.

Mark 13 has been turned into a hotbed for end-times debates for decades—but Jesus’ warning is far more grounded, far more urgent, and far more hopeful than most people realize. In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon continue through Mark 13:14–23 and tackle one of the most debated sections in Scripture—not as an end-times scavenger hunt, but in the immediate context of Jesus’ warning about Jerusalem and the temple. From there, they zoom out to the bigger framework: the New Testament doesn’t treat “antichrist” like a single future superhero villain as much as a spirit that resists the incarnate Jesus and tries to pull faith back into fear, scapegoating, and speculation. The point isn’t panic—it’s participation. The temple in Jerusalem could be torn down, but the Kingdom can’t.

In this episode, Zach and Jill begin a pivotal conversation through Mark 13. Not as a fear-fueled scavenger hunt for modern headlines, but as a text rooted in the immediate context: the temple’s coming down, and the birth of a new order in Christ. The Kingdom is here now, it’s time to participate in it.

Zach sits down with his oldest son, Max, for a father-and-son conversation about growing up, rooting in, and building a life that lasts. Max is 20, graduating soon, going on tour, and getting married. This moment of “everything is happening at once” becomes the backdrop for a deeper conversation about fear, responsibility, and the kind of commitments that form a man. It’s practical, honest, and full of real-life wisdom for anyone trying to build a life with integrity in a culture of shortcuts.

In Jesus’ final public teaching inside the temple, He exposes the scribes’ performance—long robes, public prayers, religious prestige—and then points to a poor widow with two small coins. One is production. The other is posture. In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon walk through Mark 12:35–44 and ask what it means to follow a King who can’t be contained by religious systems or political power. The leaders clung to structure and status. The widow simply trusted and obeyed. She had no leverage and no influence, yet Jesus calls her offering greater than all the rest. Faithful obedience. Open hands. Trust in a kingdom already reigning—even as the temple itself is about to fall. Passage: Mark 12:35–44

What if the question “What matters most?” is actually a question about who God is—not just what we should do? In this episode, we discuss how easy it is to turn faith into a manageable system: doctrinal checklists, spiritual scorecards, and asking, "What's the minimum I have to get right?"” But Jesus pulls us into something deeper: not just knowledge about God, but communion with God that forms our loves, reshapes our desires, and makes obedience feel less like a burden and more like freedom.

The Sadducees try to trap Jesus with a “logical” argument about resurrection, but Jesus exposes the real problem: a closed imagination that can’t see beyond their system. In Mark 12:18–27, Zach, Jill, and Brandon walk through why an argument can be coherent and still miss the truth. They also connect this moment to our current cultural shift: when information becomes infinite and "letter-only" thinking collapses. What remains is what was always important: communion, embodied life, the Spirit, and the resurrected Kingdom that cannot be shaken.

Mark 12 confronts us with a sobering warning: what happens when stewards start acting like owners? In this episode, Brandon and Zach walk through the parable of the tenants and unpack the subtle drift that can happen in any church or heart. What was entrusted to us can slowly begin to feel like it belongs to us. And when that shift happens, reverence fades and control creeps in. They wrestle with the difference between cultivating what God is growing and trying to manufacture what only He can move. Revival isn’t something we engineer. Real Kingdom growth is slower, smaller, and more faithful than we often expect. We’re grateful for the big moments. We just don’t want to disciple people into believing that God only moves in the big moments. Passage: Mark 12

Zach admits something right out of the gate: he doesn’t do well with passive-aggressive people—and then Mark 12 confronts us with a Jesus who can feel surprisingly aggressive. But is Jesus being harsh, or is He being clear? In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon step into Mark 12 and talk about the tension every believer has to learn: leaving real room for the Holy Spirit to move, without trying to manufacture what only God can do. They unpack how the parable in this chapter exposes a subtle drift: when people start acting like they own what they were only ever entrusted to steward, they forget where they came from. They also talk about, why we have to learn to cherish the small moments of cultivation, not just the big, unforgettable ones We’re grateful for the big moments. We just don’t want to train people to believe God only moves in big moments. Passage: Mark 12

Who gets to claim authority—and how do we tell the difference between wicked power and godly authority? In Mark 11:27–33, the religious leaders confront Jesus with a question meant to trap Him: “By what authority are you doing these things?” But instead of playing their game, Jesus exposes something deeper—how easy it is to use questions as weapons, and how hard it is to ask questions that actually lead to truth. In this episode, Zach and Jill Dasher break down: Why we can’t fall into the trap of thinking every kind of authority is evil How Marxism functions like a false gospel when it promises salvation through a rival story How Jesus didn’t consolidate power—He poured His Spirit into believers so the Kingdom can advance Why questions that challenge your faith can actually make it stronger (instead of just building arguments) Why it’s okay to not have an answer for everything happening in the world—if the love of Christ is showing up in your daily life Jesus didn’t bring a kingdom that’s just a rule set. He brought a kingdom that’s a way of life—formed in us, lived through us, and spreading wherever ordinary believers walk in the Spirit. Passage: Mark 11:27–33

What was Jesus truly doing when He cursed the fig tree and then overturned the tables in the temple? In Mark 11, Zach, Jill, and Brandon delve into the connection between the fig tree incident and the temple scene. They explain that Jesus wasn’t cursing people for their struggles with sin. Instead, He was exposing a system of counterfeit, fruitless religion that appeared vibrant on the surface but was devoid of genuine substance. In some instances, this system was even built for personal gain. Jesus knows we won’t be sinless, but he is clearly against using religion as a front for self gain.

In Mark’s account of the Triumphal Entry, Jesus doesn’t arrive with a war horse, a sword, or a show of force. He comes low. And at first glance, it can almost feel demeaning. But what if that “humble ride” is actually a declaration of absolute authority? In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon walk through mark 11 and talk about how the crowd’s expectations weren’t wrong they were just too small. They wanted a king who would crush Rome. Jesus came as the King who would crush sin, death, and the enemy, but He did it in a way no one expected.

What if true perception isn't about what you see, but about who you believe in? Join us as we navigate the morning chaos of school runs while exploring the poignant story of Bartimaeus, the blind beggar whose unwavering faith amidst societal pushback shines a light on our own journeys. We delve into the contrast between Bartimaeus and the disciples, emphasizing the importance of desperate longing over entitlement in our quest for connection with God. As we dissect Mark 10, we'll uncover the profound theme of the temple motif and its implications for understanding Christ's mission. Discover how Bartimaeus not only sees Jesus rightly but exemplifies a faith that calls us to a deeper, participatory relationship with God. Tune in for an engaging conversation that encourages boldness in voicing our desires to God and anticipating His response.

After a much-needed sabbatical, Zach and Jill return to the Not Yet Now podcast reflecting on rest, family rhythms, and what it means to unplug from the “matrix.” From there, the conversation moves deep into Mark 10:32–45—a passage that radically redefines power, glory, and greatness in the Kingdom of God. As Jesus walks resolutely toward His own suffering and death, James and John ask for seats of honor in His glory. What follows is a stunning collision between the kingdom of man and the kingdom of God. Zach and Jill explore how humanity’s instinct for power and position clashes with Jesus’ vision of dominion through service, authority through sacrifice, and glory through the cross. This episode wrestles honestly with ambition, leadership, discipleship, and the deep longing to live a life that matters—while exposing the lie that fulfillment is found in control or status. Instead, Jesus offers a different way: the cruciform life, where greatness is found in serving, and true dominion looks nothing like domination. A rich, pastoral, and deeply theological conversation about power, suffering, glory, and what it really means to follow Jesus in the way of the Kingdom.

Catching up, a little joking around—before landing in one of Jesus’ most uncomfortable encounters. Zach, Jill, and Brandon step into the story of the rich young ruler, a man who runs to Jesus with sincerity and urgency, asking how to inherit eternal life. What Jesus gives him isn’t a checklist—it’s an invitation. We talk through why wealth so easily becomes a rival kingdom, what Jesus is doing with the image of a camel and a needle, and why “hundredfold now—with persecutions” isn’t fine print but the reality of following Him. Eternal life isn’t something we acquire later; it’s knowing the King and aligning our lives with Him now. And as always, Jesus leaves us with the paradox we can’t escape: the first will be last, and the last first.

In a world brimming with challenges for young men, we invite you to join a heartfelt conversation with my three sons – Max, Bear, and Fred – as we discuss the serious issues they face today, just days before Christmas. This special episode dives deep into important topics such as the dangers of pornography and the pressures of social media, as well as the allure of video game addiction. As Max prepares for his upcoming wedding, we reflect on the profound lessons learned about responsibility and the importance of surrounding oneself with wise influences. Bear shares his thoughts on the challenge of staying true to oneself amidst societal expectations, while Fred – our youngest – provides insight into navigating friendships and the transition from homeschooling to public school. We keep it raw and real, sharing stories and perspectives that emphasize the importance of open communication and the need for young men to stand firm in their faith and values. Our aim is to foster understanding and strength in our sons as they grow into the men God has called them to be. This Christmas special is not just about celebrating the season; it's about connecting through love, reflection, and the lessons we learn as a family. So grab your favorite holiday treat, cozy up with us, and listen in as we share our experiences and insights on raising young men in an ever-changing world. ✨ Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from the Dasher family!

Get ready to feel the magic of the season as we celebrate the unforgettable moments from the Black Mtn Christmas Parade! In this episode, we reflect on our festive entry with a Dolly Parton twist, how traditions foster unity, and what it means to embrace the holiday spirit together.  As we connect these experiences to our faith, we explore the significance of Jesus welcoming children and the lessons they teach us about receiving the Kingdom of God with open hearts. Listen as we share insights on parenting, the challenge of embodying our beliefs in daily life, and the magic of child-like wonder that makes this season truly special. Tune in for laughter, warmth, and a reminder that it’s the simple connections that matter most!

What are the two biggest threats to marital bliss? Sex and money often spark the fiercest conflicts in marriage. In this episode, we delve into these serious issues, exploring how financial stress can impact intimacy and how to navigate covenant fidelity amidst societal pressures and the realities of divorce. But it’s not all serious—get ready to laugh as we recount our wild ride through the chaotic moments of married life! From memorable grocery store altercations over brand-name vs. generic products that humorously escalated into a four-day debate to the realities of wedding expenses, we share personal stories that highlight the rollercoaster of merging lives. Listeners will gain valuable insights into understanding God's design for marriage and the importance of commitment. This episode, filled with humor and heartfelt discussions, is perfect for anyone navigating the early days of marriage or reflecting on their journey. Tune in for a candid conversation that embraces the complexities of married life, anchored in faith and purpose.

A lighthearted Back to the Future moment quickly gives way to one of Jesus’ most intense teachings, as Zach, Jill, and Brandon dive into Mark 9 with honesty and depth. Together they explore why Jesus uses such strong language with His own disciples, what hell truly represents, and how subtle distractions can quietly pull us away from God’s presence. With personal stories and thoughtful theology, the conversation reveals how Jesus’ toughest words aren’t meant to scare us, but to call us back to freedom, wholeness, and the life we were created for.

In a thrilling start to this episode, Zach recounts a dramatic late-night call from his daughter Laela that sent him racing into action as a protective dad. This heart-pounding moment not only highlights the depth of parental love but also sets the stage for a deeper exploration of faith and responsibility! As the conversation unfolds, Zach, Jill, and Brandon delve into Mark, where Jesus reveals His impending suffering and resurrection while the disciples argue about who is the greatest among them. They explore the rich irony of this moment and discuss how it illustrates our struggles with pride and ambition. Through this examination of scripture, they reflect on the transformative power of humility, the calling to self-sacrificial love, and the true nature of greatness in the kingdom of God. Join us for a lively conversation filled with personal stories, biblical insights, and spiritual reflections, reminding us that true greatness stems from serving others and embracing our roles as stewards of God's love. Don’t miss this inspiring episode that will challenge you to reflect on your own faith journey and invite you to live out the teachings of Christ in your daily life!

What if the quiet of a snowfall could teach you more about faith than a thousand sermons? In this reflective and heartwarming episode of The Not Yet Now Podcast, Zach, Jill, and Brandon explore what it truly means to be present—in our surroundings, in our relationships, and in our walk with God. A rare early snowfall sets the stage as Zach shares a serene moment with Ruth, reminding us how nature invites us back into the now. The hosts connect the wonder of creation to Mark 9’s raw, honest cry: “I believe; help my unbelief,” unpacking the tension between doubt and faith that resonates across generations. They dive into the power of prayer, the necessity of community, and the surprising ways God meets us in quiet moments.

Experience a divine moment that transforms everything you thought you knew about God and faith! Join Zach Dasher, Jill, and Branden as we explore Mark 9 and the powerful event of the Transfiguration, where Jesus radiates uncreated light alongside Moses and Elijah, symbolizing the Law and the Prophets. We’ll unpack the significance of God's declaration, “This is my beloved Son—listen to Him,” and how it shifts our understanding of the Kingdom of God from a distant promise to a present reality.  Together, we'll reflect on why some listeners would witness this transformational power—pointing to the Pentecost—and the way “Jesus only” reshapes our view of discipleship, mission, and sacred spaces in our lives. From the echoes of Sinai to the beauty of living as a mobile sanctuary, this episode reveals how the mountain experience prepares us for love at the cross. If you’ve struggled with performance-based faith, anxiety, or external pressures, this conversation invites you to center your life around the Person of Jesus—encouraging you to listen to Him and carry His presence into your daily world.

Zach and Jill welcome family (and fan favorites) Reed & Brighton Robertson for a vulnerable, joy-filled conversation about moving from a reactive life to actively seeking the Kingdom—in marriage, parenting, community, and grief. From growing up amid Duck Dynasty fame to soldering LED panels for $14/hour, Reed opens up about identity, pressure, and how the Holy Spirit met them in the ordinary. Brighton shares candidly about losing her father, then later her niece and nephew, and how that unimaginable sorrow reshaped their faith, purpose, and pace. Together they wrestle with the “already and not yet” of the Kingdom, temple imagery, and why Jesus’ resurrection in the flesh changes how we live today. If you’re longing for direction, community, or courage to live on offense—not defense—this one’s for you. In this episode: • Family, fame, and finding identity beyond a TV moment • Seek first the Kingdom (Matthew 6) as a daily, active posture • When grief hits: hope, honesty, and the Spirit who sustains (Romans 8) • The tension of Kingdom now & Kingdom coming (Hebrews 12; Ephesians 2; 1 & 2 John) • Why bodies matter: incarnation, resurrection, and temple language • Marriage, kids, and how God uses family to sanctify our loves • Choosing intentional community over isolation

In Mark 8, everything converges: blurry sight, bold confession, and a Kingdom that hell itself can’t stop. Zach Dasher and Branden unpack one of Scripture’s hinge moments—Peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ—and why Jesus’ reply, “On this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it,” still defines reality. From the staged healing at Bethsaida to the confrontation “Get behind me, Satan,” this episode traces how revelation becomes revolution. What happens when our vision of the Kingdom shifts from power and control to self-giving love? How does the cross redefine dominion? Drawing on weddings that became living parables of community and sacrificial love, Zach and Branden challenge the defensive posture of modern Christianity and recover the explosive confidence of a Church that storms the gates of hell.

Zach and Jill reflect on the feeding of the 4,000 in Mark 8, where Jesus—now among the Gentiles—reenacts the Exodus story in a new wilderness. Just as manna once fell from heaven, bread now multiplies in the hands of the Messiah, revealing that God’s presence is never barren ground. In this conversation, they explore how the abundance of bread points to the abundance of grace—showing that when God provides, He provides more than enough.

One year in—52 episodes—and I’m honestly grateful you’re here. This little show has become a place where I (Zach) get to slow down, reflect, and share what’s been stirring in my heart—something I don’t always get to do elsewhere. When we walked in to record our anniversary episode, Jill had us gathered by the fireplace for a quick photo, and it hit me: this hasn’t just been content; it’s been community. From the guys who showed up early to church and said, “We watch Not Yet Now,” to the young man who drove from Nashville and told me, “Christ didn’t come to get us out of hell; He came to get the hell out of us,” you’ve reminded us why these conversations matter. In this episode, we look back on how the past year has shaped us—how a line from a friend’s wedding made us rethink what it means to “help each other get to heaven,” and how a simple family reset around Matthew 6:33 reminded us that seeking the Kingdom now changes the way we love each other right here, today. We trace Isaiah 35 into Mark 7, seeing that Jesus’ healings weren’t just proofs—they were previews of a world being made new. It’s part theology, part laughter, part honest reflection—a year of learning out loud. We’ve sighed, questioned, laughed, and marveled at what God is doing among us. If these conversations have helped you see Scripture—and your place in it—a little clearer, that’s the win. Here’s to more courage, more grace, and more of His Kingdom showing up right where we live. (And yes… Mark 8 is on deck. Can He do it again?)

What if the most jarring word from Jesus—“dogs”—is actually the doorway to healing and an unshakable Kingdom? In this week’s Not Yet Now episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon start with lighthearted banter about matching outfits, mountain weather, and upcoming weddings—but quickly turn to Mark 7 and one of the most uncomfortable passages in the Gospels: Jesus’ interaction with the Syrophoenician woman. As the team unpacks the text, they trace how Mark intentionally moves from food laws to the tearing down of ethnic and cultural walls. Jesus’ shocking words to this woman—calling her a “dog”—weren’t meant to demean but to reveal, exposing the reality of separation so that grace could bridge the divide. Her humble, desperate reply becomes a living picture of faith: “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the table.” From there, the conversation widens into modern implications—how we engage a culture that often feels like “enemy territory,” how to see others through the lens of the Imago Dei, and how Jesus exposes us not to shame us, but to redeem us. The crew explores the freedom that comes when we stop defending ourselves and start receiving grace. They remind listeners that the Church is never under threat, that the Kingdom of God cannot be shaken, and that humility—not hostility—is the posture of those who have tasted the bread of life. It’s a deeply honest conversation about pride, exposure, redemption, and the transforming reality that Jesus reveals to heal, not to humiliate.

Mouse. Baptisms. Mark 7. We kick off with a rogue mouse in the studio (and Josh’s very holy solution), celebrate seven baptisms in one family, and then dive into Jesus’ confrontation with the Pharisees in Mark 7. From lip gloss and mouse traps to the weight of Scripture, the conversation wrestles with why traditions can bless or bind, how the Spirit—not systems—makes us clean, and what real fruit looks like in our families and churches.

“What if Jesus’ miracles in Mark 6 are more than stories—what if they’re glimpses of God’s glory breaking into our world?” In this episode of Not Yet Now, Zach and Jill Dasher explore the feeding of the 5000, Jesus walking on water as a New Exodus, and theophany moments that reveal His divine nature. The conversation dives into house church community, multi-generational faith, and the disciples’ struggle to grasp the fullness of Christ’s power. Discover how the kingdom of God brings healing, restoration, and overflowing hope as we follow the Spirit’s lead in daily life.

Ever wondered how faith intersects with today's cultural and political landscapes? In this episode of the Not Yet Now podcast, we dive into the complexities of cultural and theological conversations in today's world. Join us as we explore the role of the church and individual Christians in navigating political and social issues, the importance of being led by the Holy Spirit, and the power of truth in transforming lives. We also address listener questions about theology and discuss the impact of historical Christian figures on modern society. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges us to engage with the world around us with faith and conviction.

We pause our regular rhythm to process the heartbreaking murder of Charlie Kirk. With raw honesty and deep sorrow, we reflect on the weight of evil, the fragility of life, and the hope we cling to in Christ’s victory over sin and death. Together we wrestle with the “not yet” of ongoing pain and injustice, while holding fast to the “now” reality that Jesus is King and His kingdom cannot be shaken. Our hearts are with Erica, their children, and the entire family as we mourn, pray, and look to the cross where justice, love, and hope converge.

A wilderness, five thousand hungry people, and a Shepherd who provides. In this episode of Not Yet Now, Zach, Jill, and Brandon dive into Mark 6 and the miraculous feeding of the five thousand. More than a story about multiplying bread and fish, this moment reveals the heart of God, the mission of Jesus, and the abundance of the Kingdom breaking into a desolate place. Why does Jesus lead his disciples into the wilderness, a place of scarcity, only to meet them there with overflowing provision? What does this miracle reveal about His compassion, His teaching, and His role as the Good Shepherd? And how does it connect to the Exodus, Ezekiel 34, Psalm 23, and the greater story of God dwelling with His people? The conversation explores: • The “desolate place” as wilderness language, echoing Israel’s journey. • Jesus fulfilling Old Testament prophecies as the true Shepherd of His people. • The abundance of God’s Kingdom breaking through scarcity. • The importance of Jesus’ teaching before the miracle of provision. • How eschatology—our view of the end—shapes how we live in the present. • Why the desert becomes Eden when the King is present. The feeding of the five thousand is not just about physical bread; it’s about the Shepherd who restores, provides, and brings rest to His people. In Christ, scarcity becomes abundance, wilderness becomes green pasture, and every desolate place overflows with life.

Two banquets. Two kingdoms. Two radically different outcomes. In Mark 6, Jesus sends His disciples out with nothing but His authority—calling them to rely completely on God’s provision—while Herod throws a feast that spirals into manipulation, pride, and ultimately the death of John the Baptist. Zach and Jill Dasher unpack this powerful contrast, showing how one kingdom leads to life and mission, while the other ends in corruption and death. Along the way, they trace connections to the Old Testament priesthood, the staff of Moses, and the call for believers today to live as God’s temple, empowered by His Spirit and set apart for His purposes.

Dumpster diving for unexpected treasures—you never know what you’ll find! In this episode, we dive into Mark 6:1-6, exploring Jesus’ rejection by His own people and what it teaches us about faith, doubt, and belonging. Along the way, we share wild stories from chaotic church gatherings like breakfast casseroles and reveal how sincerity beats cynicism in creating genuine connections. These conversations remind us that faith isn’t just a transaction—it’s a relational, transformational journey with God, who is our ultimate prize. Tune in for powerful insights, surprising stories, and a fresh take on life, faith, and miracles.

Did Zach’s failed mullet experiment end with a shaved head or a trip to the hair-plug clinic? In this episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, dive into Mark 5, a chapter packed with healing, faith, and the power of Jesus to bring life out of death. From Jairus’s desperate plea to the bleeding woman’s bold interruption, the crew explores how Jesus meets people in moments of crisis, shows His sovereignty without rigidity, and reminds us that His path is never random but always purposeful. They unpack what it means to have faith in Jesus rather than the faith of Jesus, and why the difference matters when prayers feel unanswered. This conversation touches everything from “big boy miracles” (like raising the dead) to the deeply relational heart of God—who stops for the hurting, who makes the unclean clean, and who invites us to bring our brokenness to Him. Along the way, they wrestle with sovereignty, suffering, unanswered prayers, and the danger of mistaking the signposts of healing for the ultimate destination. Join Zach, Jill, and Brandon for a rich, honest conversation about faith, healing, and hope in the God who sees, knows, and loves His people.

From chains to freedom—imagine the most broken, the most unclean transforming into a powerful testimony of hope and healing. In this compelling episode, we dive into the powerful story of the demon-possessed man from Mark 5. Here, Jesus boldly crosses the sea into Gentile territory, intentionally bringing the Kingdom to those far from God, fulfilling prophecies and extending His grace to the nations. Jill and I just wrapped up a transformative week with amazing kids from a local children’s home, and it struck me: our identity as children of God is where our true power lies. Much like that man who encountered Jesus, our pain can become our superpower. As we explore this remarkable story, we’ll dive into the clash of light and darkness and how Jesus brings freedom to the captive. This isn’t just a random moment; it’s a moment of divine purpose as He reaches out to the unclean and breaks the chains of sin and shame. Join us on this journey from shame to wholeness, embracing our identity as living temples filled with His light. This episode is all about the redemptive power of Jesus and His promise to bring His Kingdom to each of us in a chaotic world. Trust me, you won’t want to miss it!

As political storms rage around us, how can we find calm in the chaos? In this enlightening episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher and Brandon Hudson explore the tempestuous climate of our modern world, where even the simplest aspects of life are swept into the whirlwind of political drama. They delve into the importance of viewing individuals as unique contributors rather than getting lost in the ideological turbulence that seeks to divide us.Against this cultural backdrop, the team emphasizes the necessity of fostering genuine conversations and deepening our relationships, reminding us that true connection transcends judgment. Recalling their church's inception during the tumult of COVID, they draw on the story from Mark 4, where Jesus calms the storm, challenging listeners to reflect on their future aspirations in the midst of uncertainty.They examine the unparalleled authority of Christ and how a deeper understanding of God's character guides us toward authentic faith. Parallels between Jesus and biblical figures like Jonah and Moses emerge, highlighting that true grace comes from God's condescension, not our attempts to decipher Him.Rich with compelling insights, this episode encourages listeners to trust in God's sovereignty during life's storms and to actively seek His presence. Join the conversation as Zach, Jill, and Brandon underscore the significance of suffering as a pathway to release grace into the world, reinforcing that our ultimate promise of peace is found in our relationship with God.Tune in to realize how Jesus remains uncancelable amidst life’s trials, offering us a beacon of hope and the transformative power of faith and community.

Zach and Brandon set the record straight and dig deeper into what really bears fruit. The hosts unpack the idea that all of Scripture—from Moses to Paul to the Gospels—is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and no part should be elevated over another. It’s not about red letters or black letters; it’s all God’s Word. But this episode isn’t just about clarifying a misunderstanding—it’s about shifting the conversation entirely. Zach and Brandon challenge the tribalism in the Church today, where honest disagreement is often met with personal attacks and cancelation. Have we lost our ability to have authentic, grace-filled conversations? They explore the temptation to rely on systems, theology, and frameworks as substitutes for real relationship with Christ. While helpful, these constructs can easily become distractions if they’re not rooted in the living presence of Jesus and the leading of the Spirit. Throughout the conversation, the hosts return again and again to the image of the mustard seed, the wheat, and the scorched earth—reminding us that the Kingdom of God is not something we build or strategize into existence. It’s something God is already doing. We are simply invited in. Our job? Plant. Water. Tend. But God alone gives the growth. They ask, what kind of soil is Christ calling us to be? Sometimes, it’s scorched earth where all of our striving ends—but it’s there the holy seed remains. It's not about what we can build for God, but about yielding to what He is building in us. As they share personal stories of how their own church emerged from devastation—literally from the rubble of a hurricane—Zach and Brandon testify that obedience, not strategy, led to unexpected fruit. In the Kingdom, the way forward is not strength but surrender. Not control, but trust. 💬 “Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone.” (John 12)
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Dive deep as the crew unpacks the significance of truly hearing and responding to God’s Word, the importance of disrupting the soil of our hearts, and the transformative power of faith. In this thought-provoking episode of the Not Yet Now podcast, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, alongside Brandon, engage in a lively discussion about the parallels between Isaiah 6 and the Parable of the Sower from Mark 4. Explore the practical implications of the four types of soil and how they relate to our own spiritual journeys. Are we allowing the cares of the world to choke out the life of the Word in us? How can we cultivate good soil that bears fruit in our lives? With personal anecdotes and biblical insights, the hosts challenge listeners to evaluate their own responsiveness to God’s message. Join us for an enlightening conversation that emphasizes the beauty of inclusion in the Kingdom of God, the necessity of true engagement with faith, and the promise that those who genuinely seek will be transformed. Tune in for practical applications that can help guide you in nurturing a rich, fertile heart ready to receive and act on God’s Word.

Why did Jesus choose to speak in parables? Why not just lay it all out clearly? Join the trio of Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, as they explore the stickiness of stories and how they shape our understanding of the world around us. Jesus’ parables invite us into a deeper relationship with Him—one that transcends mere knowledge. We’ll discuss the importance of heart posture in receiving God’s message, the significance of being the right kind of soil, and how humility unlocks the secrets of His kingdom. Discover how God isn’t arbitrarily excluding people from His grace but rather inviting us into a heartfelt love relationship. We'll also unpack how the promise of God finds fulfillment in the seed of Jesus Christ and explore the open secret of the kingdom: “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Tune in to learn how leaning in with an open heart can transform our lives and help us bear the fruit of love, joy, and peace. Let’s embark on this journey together, seeking the heart of the matter and uncovering the richness of Jesus’ teachings!

Are you dating, considering dating, or parenting someone through dating? This raw and heartfelt episode features Zach and Jill, along with their son Max Dasher and his girlfriend Annabelle, and is definitely worth a listen. Zach and Jill discuss the beauty of marriage and God's design behind it as they unpack the reasons for delaying physical intimacy until you are in a covenant. Jill opens up about a past relationship and the tough decision she had to make, which led her into a season of loneliness. This conversation is anything but surface-level. From Zach’s attempts to deter the two from dating to Max’s confession that he wished they had listened to his father’s advice, this episode is filled with real-life, applicable wisdom from a Christian perspective.

From broken-down cars and cell phones to kicked-down doors and family disagreements, this episode has it all. It’s often said that the best conversations begin with confession, and that’s precisely how this episode on marriage unfolds. The night before this recording, the Dasher family experienced a disagreement that adds a little extra color to this flavorful and enriching discussion, filled with topics such as: How do you know they’re the one? Do you need the perfect “setup” to get married? What does it mean to be known? Comparison, and what happens when the honeymoon phase is over. Tune in as two young newlyweds discuss the joys and challenges of merging different family dynamics while learning to “leave and cleave.” Zach and Jill share crucial lessons they have learned through their mistakes and attempts to “pretend their way” through marriage. If you’re looking for an honest conversation from two married couples who don’t claim to be experts but are simply pursuing the heart of God through the power of the Holy Spirit, then you won’t want to miss this episode. The fig leaves are coming off in this challenging yet truth-filled discussion, encouraging us to reach a greater level of knowing our spouse.

“What if I’ve blasphemed the Holy Spirit?” It’s a question that lingers in the minds of many believers—and honestly, it’s one we’ve heard more than a few times. It’s a question I have asked myself before. In this episode of Not Yet Now, Jill, Brandon, and I sit down to unpack this often misunderstood and deeply sobering topic. We dig into what it actually means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, why this sin is treated differently in Scripture, and how the Holy Spirit’s role is to guide us into truth, reveal the heart of God, and continually call us to repentance. But when that voice is rejected—when God’s revelation is persistently denied—the consequences are eternal. Throughout the conversation, we explore the importance of community in keeping our faith anchored. Our identity as believers isn’t just personal; it’s communal. We were never meant to walk this road alone, and when it comes to discerning truth, fighting spiritual apathy, and turning back to God, the support of a Christ-centered community is essential. We also talk about the seriousness of sin and the danger of a heart that becomes hardened over time. A healthy fear of God is actually good for us; it keeps us spiritually alert and dependent on grace. But here’s the good news we keep coming back to: repentance is always available to those who seek it. The fact that you’re concerned about blaspheming the Spirit may be the very sign that your heart is still soft enough to respond. Ultimately, we land where we always do—at the cross. Christ’s sacrifice is enough. No matter your past, no matter your questions, He is sufficient. So if this has been weighing on you, don’t carry it alone. Join the conversation, and let’s walk through it together.

Will you join the kingdom or stand against it? In this episode, we dive deep into a riveting confrontation in Mark 3, where Jesus boldly transitions from speaking truth to entering the fray. The simple act of healing a withered hand reveals profound truths about power, compassion, and community. The Pharisees were not seeking truth; they were ready to accuse, embodying a spirit of suspicion that still breeds division today. This episode unpacks the polarizing relationship between the Pharisees and the Herodians, who found unity not in truth, but in enmity toward Jesus. Their anger over the healing stemmed from a fear of losing control. Jesus, however, remains steadfast in his mission, moving with compassion and clarity. When they go low, he dives even deeper—into purpose, love, and the essence of life. The kingdom is not just about avoiding death; it invites us into unity under Christ. Jill shares an eye-opening excerpt from her book, Shallow, highlighting the dangers of slander that poison the body. We discuss how Jesus redefines the Sabbath—not as a rule to break, but as an original intent to restore. His choice of twelve disciples isn't random; it's a reconstruction of Israel’s foundation, building a new temple that includes all of us. This conversation will challenge how you view conflict, control, compassion, and the movement of God. It doesn’t need a strategy—just willing hearts to follow the King.

Why does rest feel so wrong? In a culture that idolizes hustle and busyness, the idea of Sabbath can feel almost rebellious. But Jesus said something stunning: “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.” What if rest wasn’t a command to obey but a gift to receive?In this episode, Zach and Jill Dasher are joined by Brandon to unpack the deep spiritual roots of Sabbath—from Eden’s stillness to Jesus’ fierce defense of rest. Together, they peel back the layers of guilt, performance, and fear that keep us from ceasing.You’ll hear:    •    Why true Sabbath exposes us more than it soothes us.    •    How we use busyness like fig leaves to cover our fear and shame.    •    The danger of turning rest into another box to check—or a spiritual competition.    •    What it means to “get rid” instead of “get right” before God.    •    Why Sabbath is a mirror into our identity—and a doorway into real freedom. This isn’t just a call to slow down. It’s a call to come home. To take off your sandals. To drop the comparisons. To be with God unguarded, unhurried, and unmeasured. This is Sabbath as invitation, not obligation. A gift from the One who is never in a hurry and never in doubt. “You don’t get right to come near to God—you get rid.”  Join us as we rethink rest in a restless world. Not Yet Now Episode 33 will change the way you see your calendar—and your soul.