Off the Bench

Dr. Rodney E. Rohde, University Distinguished Regents' Professor and Chair for the Clinical Laboratory Science Program at Texas State University, joins Sophia and Doryan to discuss some of the infectious diseases currently making headlines: Hantavirus, Ebola and more. Drawing on more than 30 years of experience in microbiology, virology, and public health, Dr. Rohde helps us separate fact from fiction while exploring the critical role clinical laboratories play in outbreak response.

Preparing for a medical laboratory Board of Certification exam? In this episode, Doryan and Sophia share study tips, memory tricks, and test-day wisdom to help you study smarter, not harder. Whether you’re taking the exam, supporting a student, or mentoring future laboratorians, this episode is packed with practical advice and encouragement.

In this episode, Doryan and Sophia are joined by Dr. Melody Boudreaux Nelson, Stephanie Whitehead, and Aaron Odegard, the amazing trio behind the children's book, Little Lab Learners: The ABCs of Laboratory Medicine. Tune in as we ask how the book came to life, what else they have planned, and the importance of reaching younger learners about the laboratory profession.

In a showdown to determine which TV show gets medical laboratory science right, who will come out on top? And even more entertaining, who ends up dead last? Join Sophia and Doryan as they break down scenes from The Pitt, Scrubs, and more, diving into how lab science is portrayed in media, and what it all means for the broader branding and visibility of the profession. Check out: “Go with O Pos” – Blood transfusion during mass casualty in The Pitt

Join Doryan and Sophia as they take a look at the stats for the 2025 Off the Bench Season, and share upcoming events for 2026. Happy New Year and see you all in March 2026!

Scientific communication isn’t just about sharing data. It’s how laboratorians build trust, advocate for their profession, and protect patient care. In this episode, host Doryan Redding sits down with ASCLS President Kyle Riding, Past President Pat Tille, and Leadership Development Committee Vice Chair Nickola Chin as they explore communication in the clinical laboratory, from feedback loops to leadership strategies. Join us as we break down what it really takes to be heard behind the closed doors of the laboratory.

Malarial drugs gone purple, beer in the bladder, and a blood type no one saw coming—sounds like a night out gone weird, but it's actually laboratory science history! Join Doryan and Sophia as they dive into the serendipitous side of science that reminds us that progress often starts with the unexpected.

This month Sophia and Doryan are joined by Malissa Norfolk and Miles Tompkins to break down the freshly updated ASCLS Body of Knowledge, the essential roadmap of competencies and skills for today’s medical laboratory scientists. From building marketable skills and fueling passion for the profession to a surprising Waffle House detour, this episode blends professional insight with a side of fun.

In this month's episode, Doryan Redding and Sophia Chandrasekar sit down with Heather Santaniello (previously on JAM Query Check 2024) and talk about the importance of having stories to share with those in and out of the medical laboratory profession, as well as swap some favorite stories. Come and geek out about our love of the lab with us!

Recorded live and in person at the 2025 ASCLS, AGT & SAFMLS Joint Annual Meeting in Sacramento, California, it’s the return of Query Check! Hosts Doryan Redding and Emily Woten take the stage once again for this Off the Bench game show tradition, joined by Sophia Chandrasekar for a special preface to kick things off. Contestants Emilia Marrero, Heather Parks, and Emily Reed face off in a fast-paced battle of laboratory-ish knowledge, creative scenarios, and just the right amount of chaos. So ... who earned the bragging rights and took home the coveted Query Check Champion Trophy? Listen and play along to find out!

In this episode, hosts Doryan Redding and Sophia Chandrasekar sit down with ASCLS Executive Vice President Jim Flanigan and longtime federal lobbyist Patrick Cooney to unpack the rapidly evolving landscape of federal policy and what it means for the clinical laboratory workforce and the patients we serve. Jim and Patrick share an insider’s perspective on what’s happening as they break down how current policy decisions, like massive proposed cuts to the US Department of Health and Human Services and Medicaid and the politicization of science, are reshaping the future of the lab. From threats to workforce funding to legislative wins, this episode highlights why the lab can’t afford to stay on the sidelines.

In this episode Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding sit down with Dr. Carol Rentas, Tony Kurec, and Dr. Cathy Otto and talk about their experiences as a leader, and what advice they would share with others looking to be a leader in their community. The three also talk about the learning modules that they created for the ASCLS Leadership Development Committee's Leadership Certificate Curriculum.   Be sure to check out their work! After all, "Opportunities are seldom labeled," by John A. Shedd, American author and professor.

In this episode, host Doryan Redding talks with Anne Tate and Tristan Sonnier about the ASCLS Political Action Committee (PAC). They explore what it means to them, what the PAC does, and why they joined. Get inspired to make a difference!

Co-hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding talk about their "brain worms." Like ear worms, these are topics that are hard to get out of your head. We talk about an insomnia that kills you, blood flukes that alter the course of history, supplements that need better disclosures, and a true crime that's inspired TV plots. Give it a listen and share your brain worms! Trigger Warning: This episode does contain a true crime story that involves sexual assault at the 43 minute mark. To skip the story, jump to the 55 min 30 sec mark. Here is a link to more information about that true crime story: https://youtu.be/kap6kovyGhM?si=WqlBUwWAhu08uYd5 

Join Sophia and Doryan as they recap the best moments from episodes of Off the Bench in 2024. They reflect on standout episodes, share their favorite clips, and close the year with a blooper reel that’s sure to leave you smiling into 2025.

To prepare for Small Business Saturday (November 30, 2024), hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding feature four small businesses that are run by fellow medical laboratory professionals. Find links to their businesses here. 

In this episode, hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding are joined by Emily Woten and ASCLS President-Elect Dr. Kyle Riding. The four explore the question that's plagued a few medical laboratory geeks—how do science fiction instrumentation work? How reliable are they? And why does MALDI-TOF keep coming up? Tune in and comment below on how you think this stuff works! References to the science fiction in this episode. Thanks to our episode sponsor, Memorial Healthcare System.

In this episode, co-hosts Doryan Redding and Sophia Chandrasekar speak with Dr. Audrey Folsom of Arkansas State University, as she shares her experiences as a medical laboratory scientist doing lab work overseas and her adventures in teaching lab and health courses in China. See photos from Audrey's travels.

In this episode, co-hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding talk with Dr. Kelly Winter about the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) OneLab initiative. Hear about all that OneLab has to offer, from CEs to virtual reality labs to facilitate training, and catch our enthusiasm to sign up for OneLab today!

Doryan Redding and Emily Woten host the 2024 Query Check Game Show live at the 2024 ASCLS, AGT & SAFMLS Joint Annual Meeting. Our three wonderful contestants, Dr. Audrey Folsom, Heather Santaniello, and Amara Sugalski, face off with BOC-styled questions, lab-ish questions, and scenarios that show who's the most "technically" correct. Find out who took home this year's Query Check Champion trophy!

On today's episode, hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding meet up again with previous guest Grace Leu-Burke, MSCLS, MLS(ASCP), Associate Professor and Program Director of the MLS program at The University of Alaska, Anchorage. Doryan and Sophia pick Grace's brain on how blood banking has changed since her student years, especially with the effects of HIV and Hepatitis in blood banking and safety, and compare it to Doryan's experience being a new graduate in the blood bank during the early days of COVID-19.

This month, hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding talk with Dr. LaShanta Brice, DCLS, MLS(ASCP)CM, SH(ASCP)CM, about her amazing journey from an MLS in a hospital lab to a Doctor of Clinical Laboratory Science (DCLS) in industry. She describes what it's like to go through the DCLS program, and what her role in industry is today.

In this month's episode, host Sophia Chandrasekar talks with Professor Grace Leu-Burke of the University of Alaska in Anchorage (UAA). Professor Leu-Burke shares the challenges for a medical laboratory professional in Alaska and the research program she developed at UAA for the MLS program. Hear about her students' research and fascinating (and terrifying!) observations that they've cultured.

In this episode, hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding speak with Letycia Nuñez-Argote, PhD, CPH, MLS(ASCP)CM, about the ASCLS Diversity Advocacy Council, the 2024 ASCLS PRISM: Pride · Respect · Inclusion · Support · Momentum Book Club, and how we can always be improving and learning about diversity, equity, and inclusion and how we see the world. Special thanks go out to our episode sponsor, the University of Cincinnati Online.

It's the final episode of Off the Bench for 2023. Hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding reflect on the past year and share upcoming news for 2024. Off the Bench will take a short break this winter and will be back with new episodes in March. Happy New Year to all medical laboratory professionals and listeners!

In this episode, hear impactful, heart-warming, and funny stories from medical laboratory professionals that were recorded during the 2023 ASCLS, AGT & SAFMLS Joint Annual Meeting in Providence. Hosts Doryan Redding and Sophia Chandrasekar reflect on what they love about each story. Special thanks go out to our episode sponsor, the University of Cincinnati Online.

Beware: This episode is not for the squeamish. To get in the Halloween spirit, host Sophia Chandrasekar sits down with Brandy Gunsolus, DCLS, MLS(ASCP)CM, to hear her creepiest, most disgusting, and "more unusual" stories that happened while working in medical laboratories. Special thanks go out to our episode sponsor, the University of Cincinnati Online.

In this episode, hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding continue going through the "Impromptu Views" recorded at the 2023 ASCLS, AGT & SAFMLS Joint Annual Meeting and dive into the importance of self-advocacy, community, and outreach in the laboratory field.

In this episode, co-hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding reflect on the 2023 ASCLS, AGT & SAFMLS Joint Annual Meeting (JAM). They also share advice given by JAM attendees to prospective and new medical laboratory science students and new laboratorians.

Hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Doryan Redding speak with Luis Plaza, MLS (ASCP)CM, the host of the Let's Talk Micro podcast. Join the hosts as they speak to Luis as to how he got started, his motivations, and more!

During the 2023 ASCLS, AGT & SAFMLS Joint Annual Meeting (JAM) in Providence, RI, Off the Bench hosted and recorded the first ever JAM Query Check (QC) live show focused on questions related, and somewhat related, to medical laboratory science. Three contestants went buzzer-to-buzzer in friendly competition in categories both scientific and not-so-scientific. Audience members even got in on the action as lifelines for the contestants.

In this episode guests Dr. Kyle Riding and Emily Woten join a roundtable discussion with hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Galina Dronova about mental health, burnout, and mindfulness in the laboratory. Learn the signs of burnout and discover some tools and techniques to manage, prevent, and alleviate it.

What do MDMA, Ketamine, Psilocybin, and DMT have in common? All four previously considered as "drugs of abuse" are now moving into the therapeutic space for life affirming treatments. In this episode, host Galina Dronova and Dr. Frederick Strathmann discuss the current limitations of laboratory testing and what the future holds. References Contact Dr. Frederick Strathmann: [email protected] Psychedelic Movement Sees 2023 Catalysts in State Laws, Drug Trials Legal Use of Hallucinogenic Mushrooms Begins in Oregon Special thanks go out to our episode sponsor, the University of Cincinnati Online.

In this episode, Galina Dronova and Allison Germ outline and provide tips on how to host a trivia night for lab folks—perfect for Lab Week! And, we introduce our first Doryan's Takes, with Doryan Redding reflecting on what Lab Week means for her. Special thanks go out to our episode sponsor, the University of Cincinnati Online.

Host Sophia Chandrasekar makes an announcement about a short break for the podcast and exciting plans for the return in March 2023.

Wrap up 2022 with host Galina Dronova and Elizabeth Power, a sought after speaker, consultant, and CEO of EPower & Associates, as we discuss the importance of community in our personal and professional journeys. Listen for  advice on how to build community with patients and care teams. Learn more about Elizabeth: www.elizabethpower.com Book references: The Seven Levels of Intimacy: the Art of Loving and the Joy of Being Loved by Matthew Kelly The Four Agreements: a Practical Guide to Personal Freedom, a Toltec Wisdom Book by don Miguel Ruiz

Host Galina Dronova sits down with Tori Nemitz and Dean Derhaag to talk about the crucial role and "a day in the life" of Point of Care specialists as the extroverted faces of the lab. Learn about wins, challenges, and their thoughts on nurses performing complex lab testing. 

Join host Sophia Chandrasekar and guest Danielle Adank, MS, graduate student at Vanderbilt University, as they discuss the differences and similarities of a medical research laboratory vs a medical/clinical laboratory. The two also discuss the importance of seeing women and women-identifying people in STEM on social media, especially in traditionally male dominated scientific spaces. Follow Danielle on Instagram at @femme_in_stem.

Hosts Galina Dronova and Sophia Chandrasekar talk with ASCLS Executive Vice President Jim Flanigan about one of the most action-packed years for medical laboratory advocacy (aka, Labvocacy). Recent activities they discuss are: The Verifying Accurate Leading-edge IVCT Development (VALID) Act CMS proposed regulation to allow individuals with a bachelor’s degree in nursing as a qualifying degree for high complexity testing personnel without additional training or experience CMS proposed rule interpretation making a Doctor of Clinical Laboratory Science (DCLS) eligible for high complexity laboratory director The new Saving Access to Laboratory Services (SALSA) Act, which would fix the worst elements of PAMA that led to disastrous cuts to laboratory reimbursements This episode encourages you to get engaged and #Labvocate! You have the power and ability to make your voice heard. https://ascls.org/

Join host Sophia Chandrasekar as she explores Dr. Alan H.B. Wu's mind to find out about his speculative science fiction lab novel, Mind Portal, and learn about speculative fiction, the creative process for the book, preparing it for a movie, and just talking about the impact that the lab had, and has. Dr. Wu is a professor of laboratory medicine at the University of California at San Francisco.

Join hosts Galina Dronova and Sophia Chandrasekar as they speak with Dr. Alan H.B. Wu, chief of the clinical chemistry and toxicology laboratories at San Francisco General Hospital, regarding his efforts of bringing the clinical laboratory to the public spotlight using books, television series, and a movie.  Read the books: Alanhbwu.com Find out more about the TV series: LAB DIRECTOR AND AUTHOR TO CREATE TV SERIES HIGHLIGHTING THE ‘UNSUNG HEROES’ OF THE MEDICAL FIELD

To prepare for the 2022 ASCLS, AGT & SAFMLS Joint Annual Meeting, which is taking place June 26-30 in Grand Rapids, MI, host Sophia Chandrasekar and fellow medical laboratory professional Mackenzie Edwards talk about networking, including tips for introverts.

Have you ever sat in a lecture and tried your best to hide that you're gently dosing off? Do you shudder at the thought of having to remember to coagulation cascade? In this episode, hosts Galina Dronova and Justin Hanenberg discuss how we can transform laboratory medicine education, whether in the classroom or on the bench, from procedural knowledge to conceptual. With our guest experts, Dr. Justin Kreuter and Theresa Malin, MEd, MLS(ASCP)CM, we flip the script from creating short term memory retention to a story of meaning. -- References Brown, P., Roediger, H. McDaniel, M. (2014) Make it stick. The science of successful learning. The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press. Cutrer, W. B., Miller, B., Pusic, M. V., Mejicano, G., Mangrulkar, R. S., Gruppen, L. D., Hawkins, R. E., Skochelak, S. E., & Moore, D. E. (2017). Fostering the development of master adaptive learners: A conceptual model to guide skill acquisition in medical education. Academic Medicine, 92(1), 70-75. DOI: 10.1097/ACM.0000000000001323 Cutrer, W. B., Atkinson, H. G., Friedman, E., Deiorio, N., Gruppen, L. D., Dekhtyar, M., Pusic. M. (2018). Exploring the characteristics and context that allow Master Adaptive Learners to thrive. Medical Teacher, 40(8), 791-796. DOI: 10.1080/0142159X.2018.1484560 Six Strategies for Effective Learning. The Learning Scientists. https://www.learningscientists.org/downloadable-materials

To celebrate Medical Laboratory Professionals Week, Off the Bench hosts Galina, Justin, and Sophia speak to Pat Jones, recently retired medical laboratory professional, and reflect on written responses from additional new retirees Janice Conway-Klassesen, Deb Rodahl, and Charlie Weinzierl. They take a journey through the lab of yesteryears, as well as what the lab might look like in the future. All four sages give advice to all future and upcoming laboratorians included in the description below: Janice Conway-Klassesen Keep your eyes open for opportunities. Many laboratory practitioners are down on the profession due to the lack of recognition. But I believe that if you do not feel valued where you are, it is up to you to change that. You can work the bench for your whole career and feel very valued and fulfilled if you are in the right place. Or you can seize those little opportunities that present themselves and choose a different professional path. Like any other degree, you can use your laboratory education in a variety of different careers. Make your own career. Pat Jones Keep in mind that there is a person represented by the test you are performing. This provides motivation for consistent, high-quality work. Keep learning. Scientific knowledge is always expanding, and learning new things keeps you interested and interesting. Being current facilitates pertinent conversations within the broader medical community. Think outside the box. Laboratory medicine gives you great skills that are transferable to quality assurance, pharmaceuticals, biotech, management, etc. Deb Rodahl I always loved the laboratory because it represented a combination of science and technology. I think for the upcoming generations the same will be true, but as with anything, you get out of your career what you put into it. Be active in a professional organization and understand that is how you will continue to learn and grow – you never know where this path will take you! Don’t isolate yourself in the laboratory, you need to interact with all the other healthcare team members. Remember your team is the entire health care team – you are all working to improve the lives of the patients we serve. Speak up and provide input – don’t wait for others to do it for you. Look for things to improve. Don’t be the person who wants things to “stay the same”; the world is continually changing/evolving and we need keep up or initiate the change. Charlie Weinzierl Hospital labs comprised half of my career. Reference laboratories another quarter. And the final quarter was in a Fortune 500 company that manufacturers and sells products to clinical laboratories. If you want to eventually move from the bench into supervision or management, you may want to volunteer for special projects as they come along. Better yet, make it known to your superiors that you welcome a challenge. Identifying problems in your workplace is helpful to enlightened leaders, and they love it when you have carefully thought of some possible avenues where solutions may be found.

In this silly and fun recalibration episode, hosts Sophia Chandrasekar, Galina Dronova, and Justin Hanenberg take lab-related personality quizzes. Find out their results, and take the tests for yourself: Which Piece of Lab Equipment Are You? https://www.scinote.net/piece-lab-equipment-hilarious-quiz/ Which Immune Cell Are You? https://www.stemcell.com/virtual-conference-exhibition/immunology/immune-cell-quiz Pick Seven Random Things And We'll Guess Your Blood Type https://www.buzzfeed.com/bananabunny/can-we-guess-your-blood-type-based-on-your-prefere-315qx 

Hosts Sophia Chandrasekar and Galina Dronova end the year with a re-cap of the best of the 2021 and a look forward to what's coming in early 2022.

Are you currently working in the laboratory wondering when the staff shortages end? Or maybe you're considering leaving the hospital/clinic workspace for another opportunity such as industry or IT? This podcast is for you. Host Galina speaks with Rick Panning, Senior Healthcare Consultant at ARUP Laboratories, about the state of healthcare today and how the major trends in the medical laboratory science field shape our daily life. More importantly, we discuss how we can be the change that moves the needle in a positive direction. Take action! Learn how you can help lend your voice to address funding for medical laboratories: https://ascls.org/labvocate/

In this special Halloween episode Sophia and guest hosts Romy and Mackenzie read and react to medical laboratory horror stories submitted by Off the Bench listeners. You'll laugh, you'll cry, and you'll be totally grossed out. Please note: This episode contains graphic and potentially triggering things witnessed in the medical laboratory and hospital, including amputated limbs and maternal and child mortality.

In this episode produced by April Shields, graduate of the 2021 ASCLS Leadership Academy, Lucia Berte, MA, MT(ASCP)SBB, DLM, President of Laboratories Made Better! P.C., shares laboratory accreditation organizations' data on the most common deficiencies reported by their assessors. She also presents resources for reducing or eliminating deficiencies. The episode is available for one hour of P.A.C.E.® credit. Visit https://ascls.org/offthebench/ to learn how to earn credit. Free for ASCLS members ($10 for non-members). 

Hosts Justin Hanenberg and Galina Dronova find out how the HLA laboratories help clinical care teams monitor patient care for solid organ and hematopoietic cell transplants. Dr. Justin Kreuter, a clinical pathologist at Mayo Clinic, uses case studies to explain why HLA typing is important, as well as discusses the history and the future of the field.