ON THE COUCH

David Salle is one of the leading postmodern painters of the last forty-five years, whose layered, colliding images will make you question everything you thought you knew about how images hold meaning. What most people don't expect: David has spent the last several years training artificial intelligence on his own body of work, then using what it generates as the raw material for new paintings — not to automate art, but to find a new language for it that you've never seen before. The results break every rule of anatomy, continuity, and logic, and they are unlike anything else being made right now. Seated on one of John Chamberlain's iconic foam couches, he and host Alexandra Fairweather talk about what it means to spend a lifetime in conversation with art history – including your own.Follow our host: https://www.instagram.com/alexandrafairweather/ Follow our guest: https://www.instagram.com/david_salle/?hl=en Stay up-to-date with the John Chamberlain Estate:Follow: https://www.instagram.com/johnchamberlainestate/ To learn more about the estate’s work and mission, visit: https://www.john-chamberlain.com/ Media inquiries: [email protected]: 00:27 Introductions 02:15 David’s upbringing and early career07:42 Being pigeonholed as an artist10:27 Using AI in art18:08 How David trained AI to think like him 23:13 What it means to understand art27:33 David’s greatest virtue and vice28:04 Life lessons28:37 How accidents make art30:23 Advice for young artists32:17 Lightning round begins Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sasha Bikoff’s rooms don't just look extraordinary — they make you feel as if you've stepped out into a dream. What most people don't know about Sasha is that before she ever touched a floor plan, she was working the desk at Gagosian Gallery — one of the most competitive rooms in the art world. That training in how serious collectors see art and experience space is felt throughout all of the interiors she creates. She studied fine art and art history in Washington and Paris, and her projects now span Milan, Marrakech, Palm Beach, and her beloved New York. In this episode, she joins host Alexndra Fairweather on one of John Chamberlain's couches for a conversation that feels exactly like one of her rooms: one you won't want to leave.Follow our host: https://www.instagram.com/alexandrafairweather/ Follow our guest: https://www.instagram.com/sashabikoff/ Sasha’s book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/784194/high-vibe-design-by-sasha-bikoff/ Stay up-to-date with the John Chamberlain Estate:Follow: https://www.instagram.com/johnchamberlainestate/ To learn more about the estate’s work and mission, visit: https://www.john-chamberlain.com/ Media inquiries: [email protected]: 00:26 Introductions01:24 How Sasha got into interior design 03:41 Sasha’s first client: her mom 06:45 Discovering a client’s tastes08:05 Decorating within a budget 10:23 How to make color work for you 12:38 Gardening and nature as inspiration 13:55 The role of an interior designer in a project 14:51 Sasha’s favorite designers in history18:11 How to find furniture that feels like an art piece21:22 Sasha’s experience in product design 23:37 How formal education influences art 26:19 Sasha teases her upcoming book 27:07 Lightning round begins 29:32 Outro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Artist and designer Misha Kahn’s furniture and lighting feel less like objects you own and more like creatures you coexist with — and once you've seen them, you'll never look at a chair the same way again. What most people don't know about Misha: he was given a sewing machine at age five, and started making clothes. That instinct to fabricate something from nothing, using whatever material is at hand — foam, fiberglass, glass, metalwork, cement, textiles — has driven him from that childhood bedroom all the way to the Whitney, the Walker Art Center, and the Dallas Museum of Art. In this episode, Misha joins host Alexandra Fairweather on one of John Chamberlain's foam couches — and if you've ever wondered whether the things around you could hold more beauty and more meaning, this conversation is for you.Follow our host: https://www.instagram.com/alexandrafairweather/ Follow our guest: https://www.instagram.com/mishakahn/ Stay up-to-date with the John Chamberlain Estate:Follow the John Chamberlain Estate: https://www.instagram.com/johnchamberlainestate/ To learn more about the work and mission of the John Chamberlain Estate, visit: https://www.john-chamberlain.com/ Media inquiries: [email protected]: 00:27 Introductions 02:37 Growing up in Minnesota 05:13 Creating playgrounds7:07 The “parallel wonderland” of Misha’s work 9:49 Misha’s greatest virtue and vice10:34 Avoiding labels and boxes in your art14:19 The personality of Misha’s work15:33 Lessons learned from collaboration 17:35 Upcoming projects 20:06 Using robots in the studio24:37 Post-apocalyptic art 28:37 The chaos inside Misha’s studio 29:57 Legacy and posthumous impact 33:54 What’s too much for Misha? 36:25 Lightning round begins38:15 Outro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Daniel Arsham is one of the most commercially and conceptually ambitious artists alive, whose work asks a question that will stop you in your tracks: how will today be viewed a thousand years in the future? His work, often exploring decay and fictional archaeology, utilizes materials like crystal and volcanic ash to make modern objects appear ancient. His new book, Future Relic, is unlike anything you'll read this year: part memoir, part business manual for artists, built from decades of moving between gallery walls and global brand collaborations to personal projects, like his new cafe in Dubai. In this episode, he and host Alexandra Fairweather sit down on one of John Chamberlain's couches for a conversation that invites you to rethink your position in time.Follow our host: https://www.instagram.com/alexandrafairweather/ Follow our guest: https://www.instagram.com/danielarsham/?hl=en Stay up-to-date with the John Chamberlain Estate:Follow the John Chamberlain Estate: https://www.instagram.com/johnchamberlainestate/ To learn more about the work and mission of the John Chamberlain Estate, visit: https://www.john-chamberlain.com/ Media inquiries: [email protected]: 00:27 Introductions01:33 How Daniel got into art02:20 Chamberlain’s photography 03:47 Growing up in Miami04:54 Moving to NYC and attending art school05:35 Navigating your art career post-grad06:15 Daniel’s first international gallery show08:10 Working in stage design12:43 Mentorship and writing a book13:32 Navigating the business side of art 17:06 Daniel’s recent projects and travels18:37 How Daniel got into motorsports 19:07 Letting the art speak for itself + leaving a legacy21:11 Collaborating with athletes 22:40 Daniel’s Saturday morning ritual 24:32 Origin story of Daniel’s Bonsai speaker25:20 Using AI in the artistic process 26:16 Daniel’s cafe in Dubai28:20 Chamberlain’s stolen artwork 28:50 Daniel’s new obsession with golf30:47 Lightning-round begins31:17 Outro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

ON THE COUCH's first-ever guest is Jon Gray — co-founder of Ghetto Gastro, the Bronx-born collective that uses food to spark conversations about culture, race, power, and belonging. Jon calls himself “the dishwasher,” but his work has moved from the block to the museum to the boardroom, merging food, art, fashion, design, and music into a cultural movement. What many people don’t realize is that Jon doesn’t think of food as his product — he sees it as his medium, using it to tell stories that will make you rethink every meal you've ever eaten. In this episode, he’s seated on a foam couch by John Chamberlain — the perfect setting for a conversation about making art from everyday materials.Follow our host: https://www.instagram.com/alexandrafairweather/Follow our guest: https://www.instagram.com/ghettogray/Stay up-to-date with the John Chamberlain Estate:Follow the John Chamberlain Estate: https://www.instagram.com/johnchamberlainestate/ To learn more about the work and mission of the John Chamberlain Estate, visit: https://www.john-chamberlain.com/ Media inquiries: [email protected]: 00:20 Introductions 1:51 Origin story of Chamberlain’s Shelter Island studio 2:51 Jon’s early discovery of art 4:32 Jon’s dream place to live7:20 G SPOT, Jon’s new gallery project9:29 How to make museums more accessible11:17 Jon reflects on his residency at The Met 13:38 How Ghetto Gastro came to be17:54 What’s next for Ghetto Gastro? 18:21 The Bronx in three words 19:26 Jon’s riskiest early-career moves22:23 How the matriarchs of his family influence Jon’s work24:57 Chamberlain's work as a hairdresser in the Motown era26:48 Jon on being honored by the Museum of Contemporary Art Detroit28:00 Little-known stories from Chamberlain’s early life 29:07 The best meal of Jon’s life32:53 The unique history of gumbo35:03 The legacy Jon wants to leave39:51 Chamberlain’s restaurant on Shelter Island40:47 Jon teases his new concept on sushi41:32 The best piece of advice Jon received in his youth42:08 Making art that’s hard to define45:52 Bringing back play47:00 Lightning round questions  48:35 Outro & Credits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

ON THE COUCH invites you into the inspiring worlds of today’s cultural leaders. Join host Alexandra Fairweather as she sits down with guests on one of artist John Chamberlain’s iconic foam couches to discuss all aspects of creative life. In the debut season, you’ll hear from bold thinkers and creative polymaths like artists Daniel Arsham and David Salle; designers Misha Kahn, Sasha Bikoff, and Fernando Mastrangelo; fashion designer Alexander Wang; architect Annabelle Selldorf; and Jon Gray, Co-Founder of Ghetto Gastro. Each conversation sheds different light on how bold, original, and even seemingly impossible ideas come to life – and If you’ve ever wondered how legacy is truly built, this series is for you.Tune in to episodes of ON THE COUCH via Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon, YouTube, or wherever you prefer to stream. New episodes drop every other Tuesday starting May 19. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.