PODCAST · technology
On The Other Side
by Chase Chapman
Exploring the intersection of society, culture, and crypto.
Episodes
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99. What is Ethereum for? w/ Paul Dylan Ennis
Paul Dylan Ennis is an author and professor. We talk the history of the cypherpunk movement, how Ethereum culture has evolved, and answering the million dollar question: what is Ethereum for? - - Follow Paul: https://twitter.com/post_polar_ Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Follow…
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98. The convergence of crypto and AI w/ Niraj Pant
Niraj is the co-founder of Ritual. We talk the convergence of crypto and AI, how onchain apps can leverage AI, why compute needs to be decentralized, and whether decentralized AI will cause the downfall of human society (not to be dramatic). - - Follow Niraj: https://twitter.com/niraj Follow…
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97. Maybe bots aren’t so bad w/ Brian Flynn
Brian Flynn is the founder of Boost (formerly RabbitHole). We talk hyperfinancialization, crypto as a universal language, how AI agents might play a role in building toward a better future, and shifting from idealism to realism. - - Follow Brian: https://twitter.com/Flynnjamm Follow Chase:...
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96. Onchain distribution networks w/ Dan Romero and Jesse Pollak
Dan Romero is a co-founder of Farcaster and Jesse Pollak is the leader behind Base. We talk frames, the power of distribution networks, contextualizing onchain activity, and why everything might one day be a Farcaster client. - - Follow Dan: https://twitter.com/dwr Follow Jesse:...
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95. New mental models for wallets w/ Nitya Subramanian
Nitya is the founder of Capsule. We talk embedded wallets and how they might dovetail into account abstraction, whether BYOW (bring your own wallet) is dead, the transaction as the atomic unit of the onchain world, and new mental models for wallets. - - Follow Nitya: https://twitter.com/_nityas...
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94. Minting as a medium w/ Dee Goens
Dee is the co-founder of Zora. We talk minting as a medium, why the economics of the internet should mirror human behavior, the limits of modeling collecting behavior, and why focusing on financial motivations is not the answer for empowering creators. - - Mint On the Other Side:...
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93. Composability + the paradox of choice
This is a special episode, drawing on ChatGPT's knowledge. We talk the paradox of choice, composability as a double-edged sword, when choice matters, and how maturity of consumer technologies impact end-user orientation around choice. - - Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Follow On...
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92. Building for crypto-natives vs. normies w/ Mike Demarais
Mike is a co-founder at Rainbow. We talk building for newbies vs. crypto natives, why crypto has primarily been desktop-first, WeChat-style wallets vs. embedded wallets, maintaining a beginner's mindset, consumer adoption, and why consumer crypto has become such a meme. - - (00:00) Intro (01:00)...
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91. Intents as protocol moats w/ Andrew Hong
Andrew is the Headmaster at Dune Analytics. We talk the modular stack ‒ Andrew gives an accessible overview of account abstraction and intents, the potential for intents as protocol moats, where censorship and centralization might become a risk, and what the future of interacting onchain might…
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90. The next wave of consumer crypto w/ Seed Club
Long time friends of the pod — Jess and Josh from Seed Club — join to talk Seed Club Cohort 6, trends in consumer crypto, why onchain experiences aren't built for pure consumption, and what the future for onchain consumer apps might look like. - - Follow Jess: https://twitter.com/thattallguy…
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89. Unpacking the Nouns fork w/ Noun 40
Noun 40 shares unpacks the different camps within Nouns governance, the creation of the fork mechanism, why the treasury isn't the most important resource, and the fork means for the future of Nouns. - - Follow Noun 40: https://twitter.com/noun40__ Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman...
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88. Collective ownership as a competitive advantage w/ Sirsu
Sirsu is a co-founder of BLVKHVND, an onchain esports organization. We talk how BLVKHVND is changing the game for esports, reducing the decision-making overhead for fans, and whether crypto provides a meaningful competitive advantage in the esports domain. - - Follow Sirsu:...
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87. Maximize ownership, minimize governance w/ Jesse Walden
Jesse is a co-founder and GP at Variant. We talk why building onchain is more like building hardware than software, decoupling governance and ownership, outsourcing decisions to the market using modular system design, and why consensual hierarchy may be a better way to run decentralized...
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86. Journey of a transaction w/ Jill Gunter
Jill is a co-founder of Espresso Systems. On this episode, we do an accessible deep dive into what happens after you submit a transaction. Jill explains the memepool, MEV, sequencers, different types of L2s, and more. - - This episode is sponsored by Forefront ‒ a community and media network for...
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85. Bringing a billion users onchain w/ Jesse Pollak
Jesse is spearheading Base ‒ the L2 incubated by Coinbase. We talk the superchain thesis, the rise of onchain consumer applications, the role of financialization in onchain social experiences, federalism, and how Base plugs into existing governance systems. - - This episode is sponsored by...
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84. Navigating values trade-offs w/ Kevin Owocki
Kevin is a co-founder of Gitcoin. We talk about his book Stuff Crypto OGs Know, how to think about values trade-offs, whether crypto will ever move beyond financial use cases, accepting the reality of credibly neutral protocols, and Kevin's take on the controversy behind Gitcoin's latest funding...
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83. Onchain media w/ Steph Alinsug (CRYPTOHUN3Y)
Steph is the founder of Vessel. We talk onchain media, how interfaces make luxury media legible, aspirational identity, curation, and how shared identity shapes our experiences and actions as consumers. - - Follow Steph: https://twitter.com/cryptohun3y Follow Chase:...
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82. Post-token worlds w/ Sean McCaffery
Sean is a co-founder of Jokerace. We talk limitations of tokens, how onchain activity can be used to gate end-user experiences, and why L2s unlock new kinds of onchain paradigms. - - Follow Sean: https://twitter.com/seanmc_eth Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Follow On the Other...
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81. Hypercultures w/ LGHT
LGHT is a crypto artist exploring the intersections of crypto, creativity, and culture. We talk LGHT's thesis on hypercultures, timeless co-creation, how web3 reshapes our ability to create and proliferate culture, and why we should see motivation as a spectrum. - - Follow LGHT:...
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80. Special episode: does user ownership matter?
This is a special episode! I bring on a normie friend to talk whether users actually want to own the platforms we exist on, why ownership might be too much overhead, and get an honest take of the public perception of crypto. - - Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Follow On the Other...
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79. Luxury media w/ Jihad Esmail
Jihad is a contributor at Forefront. We talk internet-native business models, why media monetization is broken, platform physics, and the rise of luxury media. - - Follow Jihad: https://twitter.com/jaesmail Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Follow On the Other Side:...
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78. Digiphysical goods w/ Nich Kesonpat
Nich is a researcher at 1kx. We talk digiphysical goods, how NFC chips can unlock new types of onchain activity, what happens when we link our physical and digital worlds, and how digiphysical goods might actually help us touch grass. - - Follow Nich: https://twitter.com/nichanank Follow Chase:...
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77. Surviving a bear market w/ Kain Warwick
Kain Warwick is the founder of Synthetix. Kain talks pivoting within crypto, building conviction, using bull markets to test assumptions, why we need better UX in crypto, and why centralization isn't always a bad thing. - - Follow Kain: https://twitter.com/kaiynne Follow Chase:...
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76. Co-creation + user generated products w/ Aleksija Vujicic
Aleksija Vujicic is an investor at Multicoin. We talk creating culture through content, how user generated content allows for co-creation, the evolution toward user generated products, and how web3 enables unique consumer experiences. - - Follow Aleksija: https://twitter.com/aleksijavujicic…
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75. Freedom through interoperability w/ Jimmy Chang
Jimmy is a co-founder of Catalyst. We talk why blockchains-as-nation-states, interoperability in a multi-chain world, why we'll likely see an abundance of blockchains in the future, and why we need infrastructure for easily switching between chains. - - Follow Jimmy: https://twitter.com/0xJim...
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74. Monetizing web3 social w/ Nir Kabessa
Nir is a co-founder of Yup. We talk value capture at the protocol vs. interface level for web3 social, the importance of distribution, how protocols build moats, and how micro-transactions unlock new mechanisms for monetization. - - Follow Nir: https://twitter.com/nir_III Follow Chase:...
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73. Content liquidity + protocol lock-in w/ Rafa
Rafa is currently doing research as part of the Summer of Protocols and is the co-founder of Folklore, a community crafting knowledge of connection, lorecraft, and digital realms. We talk content liquidity, creators as liquidity providers, protocol lock-in, the power dynamics between interfaces…
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72. Token bound accounts + ERC-6551 w/ Benny Giang
Benny is the co-founder at Future Primitive. We talk how consumer experiences shape protocol standards — including the CryptoKitties story, how CryptoKitties led to the development of ERC-721, breaking down what ERCs and EIPs actually are, token bound accounts, and the needs addressed by…
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71. Building a network city w/ Jon Hillis
Jon Hillis is a friend of the show and builder of Cabin. We talk about the downfalls of modern-day cities, why now is the time to build internet-native cities, how network cities differ from network states, and how Jon thinks about building “on top of” rather than replacing existing governance...
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70. Governing AI + web3 data unions w/ Jake Brukhman
Jake Brukhman is the founder and CEO of Coinfund. We talk LLMs leading to AGI, the dangers of privatized AI owning and controlling user data, and how web3 might play a role in mitigating these risks. Read: Open neural networks: the intersection of AI and web3...
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69. Ownership is a consumer experience w/ Jess Sloss + Josh Cornelius
Jess and Josh are builders at Seed Club. We unpack Seed Club’s thesis that DAOs are consumer products ‒ exploring what it means to build ownership experiences. Follow Josh on Twitter (@joshcrnls) Follow Jess on Twitter (thattallguy) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman)
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68. On-chain media w/ Yana Sosnovskaya + Guy Mackinnon-Little
Yana and Guy from Zora's ZINE talk media-as-shared reality, why committing to print is like committing on-chain, decentralized media, how on-chain media shapes creation, and ZINE's print edition. Check out ZINE on Twitter (@____zine____) Check out Zora Zine Print Issue 001 on zine.supply Follow…
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67. The Network State: what it gets wrong + alternative models w/ Josh Dávila
Josh (aka The Blockchain Socialist) is a podcaster and writer. In this episode, we explore The Network State, understanding what's exciting about it, unpacking where it goes wrong, and imagining alternatives to Balaji's concept of The Network State. Check out The Blockchain Socialist podcast…
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66. The evolution of Boys Club: balancing control + scale w/ Parker Jay-Pachirat
Parker is on the founding team of Boy Club, she’s also an early-stage investor in the FinTech Collective’s DeFi Fund. On this episode, we talk the genesis of Boys Club, how Boys Club created such a cultural phenomenon in web3, balancing control and scale, tough conversations, and gaslighting AI....
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65. Bailout Brink: The Tale of Two Bank Collapses w/ David Phelps
In this episode, David Phelps reads aloud his latest piece: Bailout Brink – The Tale of Two Bank Collapses, Or, How I Got Here. This piece is a beautifully written raw, human account of the very real psychological and emotional impacts of financial systems. David artfully explores the very real...
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64. ETH DENVER RECAP w/ LDF
LDF talks ETH Denver, the magic of IRL interactions, cross-pollination between technical and non-technical web3 people, governance as entertainment, and what it means to be web3 native. Follow LDF on Twitter (@ldf_gm) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman)
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63. Content worth collecting w/ Adam Levy
Adam is the host of the Mint podcast and co-creator of Bello. Adam talks content worth collecting, a future where collectors outpace followers, and the unlock of understanding who collectors actually are. Follow Adam on Twitter (@levychain) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman)
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62. Reviving trust in crypto w/ Ria Bhutoria
Ria is a General Partner at Castle Island Ventures, and also a contributor at Komorebi and EcoDAO. Ria talks what it’s going to take to rebuild trust in crypto, building with values at the forefront, sovereignty, accountability, and credible neutrality. Follow Ria on Twitter (@riabhutoria) Follow...
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61. Making the internet less lonely w/ Gaby Goldberg
Gaby Goldberg is an investor at TCG Crypto and a prolific writer and thinker on consumer tech. Gaby talks the evolution of web1, web2, and web3, why the internet feels lonely, curation, and more. Follow Gaby on Twitter (@gaby_goldberg) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman)
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60. Reinventing the leviathan + learning from history w/ Jon Hillis
Jon is building Cabin (one of my favorite communities in the ecosystem!). We talk learnings from history and experimenting with new governance systems. Follow Jon on Twitter (@JonathanHillis) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) Read Jon's piece on Mirror:...
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59. The tokenized community thesis w/ Jihad Esmail
Jihad is a contributor at Forefront and author of Tokenized Communities, which explores a new framework for understanding web3 communities. Jihad talks defining characteristics of tokenized communities, why financial instruments alone cannot facilitate net new cultural outcomes, and the battle…
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58. Zero-knowledge proofs + the power of encryption w/ Jon Wu
Follow Jon on Twitter (@jonwu_) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) ‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒ On the Other Side is sponsored by RabbitHole. Learn more about RabbitHole at rabbithole.gg Follow RabbitHole on Twitter at @rabbithole_gg
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57. Chaos + co-creation in web3 w/ LDF + Reka.eth
Follow LDF on Twitter (@ldf_gm) Follow Reka on Twitter (@reka_eth) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) Check out Chaos on Substack (chaosisapublicgood.substack.com) ‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒ On the Other Side is sponsored by RabbitHole. Learn more about RabbitHole at rabbithole.gg Follow...
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56. An unstructured conversation on consolidation, monopolies, and values w/ Tommy Lower
Follow Tommy on Twitter (@tommylower) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) ‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒ Tommy’s original Twitter thread ‒> https://twitter.com/tommylower/status/1592709325952262145 ‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒ On the Other Side is sponsored by RabbitHole. Learn more about...
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55. Staffing for bureaucracy + lessons from a DAO service provider w/ Nick Cannon
Follow Nick on Twitter (@inkymaze) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) ‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒ On the Other Side is sponsored by RabbitHole. Learn more about RabbitHole at rabbithole.gg Follow RabbitHole on Twitter at @rabbithole_gg
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54. An unstructured conversation on morality, internet art, and cancel culture w/ jayislate
Follow Jay on Twitter (@Jayislate) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) ‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒ Check out Jay’s Substack ‒> iceberganthro.substack.com Check out Perfectly Imperfect ‒> https://www.perfectlyimperfect.fyi/ New Models episode covering Milady ‒>...
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53. Regenerating the world + programmable values as a double-edged sword w/ Kevin Owocki
Follow Kevin on Twitter (@owocki) Grab a (free!) copy of Greenpilled at greenpill.party (discount code: CHASECHAPMAN) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) ‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒ On the Other Side is sponsored by RabbitHole. Learn more about RabbitHole at rabbithole.gg Follow RabbitHole...
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52. Stepping into our values + taking care of each other w/ Maxwell Kanter
Follow Maxwell on Twitter (@publicmaxwell) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) ‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒ On the Other Side is sponsored by RabbitHole. Learn more about RabbitHole at rabbithole.gg Follow RabbitHole on Twitter at @rabbithole_gg
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51. Media as the fourth estate w/ Steph Alinsug (cryptohun3y)
Steph leads the media team at Seed Club. We talk decentralized media, propaganda, media as the Fourth Estate, and consenting to narratives. Follow Steph on Twitter (@cryptohun3y) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) ‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒‒ On the Other Side is sponsored by RabbitHole....
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50. Principles for a more fair internet w/ Li Jin
Li is a co-founder and general partner at Variant Fund. We unpack Li’s piece on A Theory of Justice for Web3, democratizing access to investments, and whether web2 and web3 can co-exist. Follow Li on Twitter (@ljin18) Follow Chase on Twitter (@chaserchapman) Read “A Theory of Justice for Web3”...
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