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OODAcast
by Matt Devost & Bob Gourley
Informing your decisions with intelligence, analysis, and insight on technology, business, cybersecurity, and global risk issues.Brought to you by the team at OODAloop.com
Episodes
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Episode 129: The Attacker Mindset: Maxie Reynolds on Red Teaming, Underwater Data Centers, and Human Nature
In this OODAcast episode, host Matt Devost sits down with Maxie Reynolds, author of The Art of the Attack, to explore the evolution of her unique career from offshore oil rigs to elite red teaming and cybersecurity innovation. Maxie shares how her unconventional path, working a decade in oil and...
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Episode 128: The Money Trap: Alok Sama on SoftBank, Mega Bets, and Life Beyond Wall Street
In this episode of the OODAcast, host Matt Devost is joined by Alok Sama, author of The Money Trap, for a compelling conversation about Sama's journey from modest beginnings in India to leading some of the most ambitious investment efforts in tech history. Sama recounts his early days in Delhi…
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Episode 127: Chris Wysopal on Reducing Attack Surface in the Age of AI
In this OODAcast, Chris Wysopal shares his insights from decades in cybersecurity, detailing his journey from the early hacking collective "The L0pht" to co-founding Veracode. Wysopal reflects on the evolution of cybersecurity, highlighting his early contributions to vulnerability research and...
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Episode 126: John Boyd, Maneuver Warfare, and the Future of the Marine Corps – A Conversation with Ian Brown
In this episode of the OODAcast, Bob Gourley speaks with Ian Brown, retired Marine Corps officer and author of A New Conception of War, which explores the influence of John Boyd on the Marine Corps and the evolution of maneuver warfare. Ian shares insights from his 20-year career in the Marines,...
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Episode 125: Unmasking Cyber Threats: Trevor Hilligoss's Mission to Disrupt Criminal Networks
In this OODAcast, Bob Gourley interviews Trevor Hilligoss from SpyCloud, diving into his career trajectory from the U.S. Army to cybercrime intelligence. Hilligoss shares his unconventional path, starting as a forward observer in the Army before transitioning to law enforcement and later working...
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Episode 124: The History and Future of Cyberwar with Matt Devost
In this episode of the OODAcast we turn the microphone over to Dr. Bilyana Lily, the world renowned cyber and geopolitical expert, who interviews OODA's CEO and co-founder Matt Devost. The session provides insights which can benefit any entrepreneur, board member, investor or cybersecurity...
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Episode 123: Forging Leadership: Admiral Studeman on Intelligence, National Security, and Proactivity
In this OODAcast, Bob Gourley interviews retired Admiral Mike Studeman, a leader with over 35 years of experience in operational intelligence and national security. Admiral Studeman shares his journey, from joining the Navy at the close of the Cold War to serving as the Director of Intelligence…
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Episode 122: Embracing the Future: Insights from Brandon Jones
In this episode of the OODAcast, Bob Gourley sits down with Brandon Jones, CEO of Throughline, to explore his career journey, the importance of liberal arts in technology, and the innovative work of Throughline. The conversation highlights the value of a diverse educational background and the...
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Episode 121: Dr. Bilyana Lilly on Russian Information Warfare and Navigating Future Risks
In this OODAcast, Matt interviews Dr. Bilyana Lilly who is an expert on Russian information warfare and geo-political risk. Bilyana is also the author of the book Russian Information Warfare and the novel Digital Mindhunters. Dr. Lilly shares her fascinating origin story and how she emerged as…
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Episode 120: Leadership and Innovation with Former NASA CIO and Current Executive Leader Renee Wynn
In this episode of the OODAcast, Bob Gourley interviews Renee Wynn, former Chief Information Officer (CIO) of NASA. Renee Wynn's career trajectory is a testament to the unpredictable yet rewarding nature of professional journeys. Starting with a Bachelor of Arts in Economics from a liberal arts...
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Episode 119: Megan Jaffer on Leadership, Intelligence, Innovation and Iron Butterfly Media
In this episode of OODAcast, Megan Jaffer joins the conversation to discuss her journey in the intelligence community and the creation of Iron Butterfly Media Group. Megan also discusses the expansion of Iron Butterfly Media, including new podcast series and a documentary on women in…
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Episode 118: Decision-Making and Deep Tech with Laura Thomas: Insights from a Former CIA Officer
In this episode of OODAcast, Bob Gourley interviews Laura Thomas, a deep tech consultant and former CIA officer. Laura discusses her journey from a small town in North Carolina to a career in the CIA, where she served as a case officer. She emphasizes the importance of critical thinking and...
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Episode 117: Leading Cyber Change: Allan Friedman on the Revolution of SBOM & Future Cybersecurity Initiatives
Allan Friedman is a senior strategist at CISA (the Cyber Security and Infrastructure Security Agency) where he coordinates all of their cross-sector activities on the topic of SBOM: The Software Bill of Materials. Allan is widely known as a change agent in both the public and private sector. In...
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Episode 116: Joe Sullivan on Managing Complex Security Challenges
Joe Sullivan has been at the forefront of managing security risk in rapidly growing high tech companies over the past 20 years serving as the Chief Security Officer at Facebook from early start-up through the IPO, CSO of Uber and CloudFlare, and as a security leader at eBay/PayPal. Joe was also...
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Episode 115: Joe Tranquillo on the Revolution in Biological Science
Joe Tranquillo is a Professor of Biomedical Engineering at Bucknell University and a provost at the school. He is also and author and speaker with a knack for helping make new and at times complex subjects understandable. In this OODAcast we discuss many aspects of the revolution in biological...
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Episode 114: MITRE Futurist Charles Clancy on our Quantum Enabled Future
Charles Clancy has successfully led technology efforts in government, industry, academia and continues to lead and innovate in his current position as Senior Vice President and GM of MITRE Labs. He is MITRE's Chief Futurist. His role in technology leadership and his tracking of tech across…
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Episode 113: Mark McGrath: John Boyd Is Far More Than The OODA Loop
Mark McGrath has applied the teachings of John Boyd to a career that began in the Marine Corps, included leadership positions in financial services firms and consulting with businesses with a need to learn to thrive in volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous (VUCA) environments. He co-founded...
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Episode 112: Serene - The Hacker Pianist Saving Cyberspace
Serene is a hacker in the truest sense of the word. She's applied a hacker mindset to learn coding, piano, and blend art and engineering in fascinating ways. You'll find her collaborating on-stage with Grimes one night and coding censorship resistant technologies the next day. As a self-taught...
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Episode 111: Andy Bochman on Countering Cyber Sabotage
Andy Bochman is the Senior Grid Strategist-Defender for Idaho National Laboratory's National and Homeland Security directorate. In this role, Andy provides strategic guidance on topics at the intersection of grid security and climate resilience to INL leadership as well as senior U.S. and...
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Episode 110: Spencer Ante on Creative Capital and Disruptive Innovation
Spencer Ante is the author or "Creative Capital: Georges Doriot and the Birth of Venture Capital", which was on my Top 10 book list for 2022. In fact, I found Doriot's story so compelling that a portrait of him hangs on the wall at the Hack Factory start-up studio in Reston, VA. Doriot is a...
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Episode 109: Bob Zukis and the Digital Directors Network: Helping corporate boards mitigate systemic risk
ob Zukis is a man on a mission to improve the ability of corporate America to succeed in a complex digital world, even when under constant cyber attack. Bob is the CEO and founder of the Digital Directors Network, the global pioneer in helping corporate directors advance their understanding of...
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Episode 108: Adam Shostack on Cybersecurity and What Every Engineer Should Learn From Star Wars
Adam Shostack is widely known in the cybersecurity world for his pioneering work on disclosing and discussing computer vulnerabilities (the CVE (common vulnerabilities and exposures) list). He also helped formalize and train leading approaches to threat modeling and wrote the foundational book on...
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Episode 107: Sebastian Mallaby on How Venture Capitalists and Hedge Funds Achieve Success
Sebastian Mallaby joined the OODAcast for a discussion about the Power Law in venture capital and the rise of the global hedge fund and private equity industries. Sebastian's book "The Power Law: Venture Capital and the Making of the New Future" is one of the most insightful books on the venture...
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Episode 106: Former Head of National Intelligence Council and Deputy ODNI Neil Wiley on Intelligence Analysis
Neil Wiley has lead some of the US Intelligence Community's most important analytical functions. His career in intelligence began as a Naval Intelligence Officer in an operational intelligence center focused on support to critical operational naval missions. He would later serve joint…
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Episode 105: Michael Gibson Wants to Light the Paper Belt on Fire
This OODAcast features a fascinating conversation with Michael Gibson, the author of the book "Paper Belt on Fire" who is also the co-founder of the Thiel Fellowship program and the 1517 Fund, both of which focus on identifying unconventional ideas and individuals that can drive disruptive...
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Episode 104: Jimmy Soni on Why PayPal Was Successful
In this OODAcast, we talk with Jimmy Soni, the author of the book "The Founders: The Story of PayPal and the Entrepreneurs Who Shaped Silicon Valley". The Founders was one my Top 10 Security, Technology, and Business books of 2022, and is one of the few books I read last year that qualifies for...
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Episode 103: Jen Hoar on Corporate Intelligence and Investigations
In this OODAcast we interview one of our close friends and OODA network members, Jen Hoar. Jen is a former journalist-turned-corporate investigator who has leveraged the potent act of asking, and listening, to turn strangers into sources and contacts into clients. Her expertise, which is clearly...
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Episode 102: Joseph Menn: Observations From Two Decades Of Tech Journalism
Covering technology issues, and specifically cybersecurity as a journalist is a tough endeavor. Some of these technologies are complex as are the security vulnerabilities often inherent in their deployment and making these topics broadly accessible can be a challenge. Many of the underlying…
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Episode 101: Lawrence Gasman on Assessing the Business Impact of Quantum Technologies
Lawrence Gasman has researched and reported on quantum technologies from the beginning of the discipline of quantum computing. He is now the President of Inside Quantum Technology (IQT), which provides in-depth business intelligence for the quantum technology industry. IQT also runs several major...
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Episode 100 - Providing actionable insights for future risks and opportunities.
In 2020, we launched the OODAcast video and podcast series designed to provide insightful analysis and actionable intelligence to decision makers. In this 100th episode, co-hosts Matt Devost and Bob Gourley review some of the key insights from the series. Matt and Bob also discuss a OODA's recent...
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Episode 99: David Greenberg on Decision-making in Volatile Markets
While the OODA Loop was been heralded in the domain of conflict, we often find the concept in business and there is no greater business analogy to dogfighting that David Greenberg's experience as a trader on the floor of the world's largest physical commodities exchange. David's job required…
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Episode 98: John Spencer on Connected Soldiers and the Future of Conflict
John Spencer is a writer, thinker, speaker scholar who currently serves as the Chair of Urban Warfare Studies at the US Military Academy. He brings the experience of a veteran who has led in combat to his work, and in his latest book, Connected Soldiers, also provides insights from his time as a...
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Episode 97: Duyane Norman on Disrupting the CIA to Deal with Emerging Threats
Duyane Norman spent nearly 30 years in the CIA with three Chief of Station and multiple other tours in a variety of interesting geographies and also had a focus on technology issues serving as Deputy Director of the Office of Technical Service within CIA's Directorate of Science and Technology…
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Episode 96: First Federal CISO Greg Touhill on Advanced Cybersecurity by Design
Greg Touhill is one of the nation's premier cybersecurity, information technology and risk management leaders. As an Air Force officer he led technology efforts in some of our nation's most demanding organizations including combatant commands during time of war. He is an accomplished speaker and...
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Episode 95: Former Tenable CEO Ron Gula Applies a Hacker Mindset to Investing, Public Awareness, and Philanthropy
In this OODAcast, we interview Ron Gula, co-founder and CEO of the highly successful Tenable Security(NASDAQ:TENB) and currently President of Gula Tech Adventures. Ron has a long history in the cybersecurity field that includes starting his career as an NSA hacker and then transitioning into an...
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Episode 94: Jim Lawler on the Art of Espionage and the Perfect Intelligence Operation
In this OODAcast, we talk with Jim Lawler who is a Senior Partner at MDO Group, which provides HUMINT training to the Intelligence Community and the commercial sector focused on WMD, CI, technical and cyber issues. Mr. Lawler is a noted speaker on the Insider Threat in government and industry....
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Episode 93: Lifelong Hacker and Experienced Security Executive Alyssa Miller, Author of Cybersecurity Career Guide
Alyssa Miller is a life-long hacker and highly experienced security executive who has a passion for security and the security community. She is an excellent advocate for continuous improvement in the community and a frequent speaker to audiences of both fellow business leaders and security...
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Episode 92: Dr. Scott Shumate Profiles Russian President Vladimir Putin
This OODAcast is a special edition focused on profiling Russian President Vladimir Putin with Dr. Scott Shumate, who has over 30 years of experience evaluating national leaders, terrorists, spies, and insiders. Scott shares his unique perspective's on Putin informed by his extensive experience…
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Episode 91: Chris Butler on the Value of Adversarial Thinking in Product Design and Management
In this OODACast, Matt talks with Chris Butler about how concepts like adversarial thinking can be applied to product design and management. Chris is an exemplar of someone who has excelled in his field but also looks to study and bring disruptive ideas like randomness and future framing from…
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Episode 90: John Chambers on Risk and Opportunity in the Modern Age
John Chambers is the legendary former CEO of Cisco, a company he helped grow from $70 million in revenue per year when he joined in 1991 to $1.2 billion a year the year he became CEO to over $48 billion a year by the time he retired in 2015. As a leader John was always known for far more than…
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Episode 89: Simon Clark on Investigating the Key Man and a Billion Dollar Fraud
In this OODAcast, we talk with Simon Clark. Simon a British journalist and writer. He previously worked at the Wall Street Journal. His investigative reporting has led him to the poppy fields of Afghanistan, the copper mines of Congo and to many banks in the City of London. He was nominated for a...
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Episode 88: Charity Wright on China's Digital Colonialism
Charity Wright is a Cyber Threat Intelligence Analyst with over 15 years of experience at the US Army and the National Security Agency, where she translated Mandarin Chinese. Charity now specializes in dark web cyber threat intelligence, counter-disinformation, and strategic intelligence at...
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Episode 87: Jan Chipchase on Field Research for Actionable Insights
Jan Chipchase is the founder and director of Studio D Radiodurans, a research, design and innovation consultancy. He specializes in identifying nuanced patterns of human behavior. The insight it generates informs and inspires design, strategy, brand and public policy. Jan describes his work in...
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Episode 86: Ben Dubow on Detecting and Countering Malign Influence Operations
Ben Dubow is CTO and founder of Omelas, a firm that provides data and analysis on how nations manipulate the web to achieve their geopolitical goals. He has a background in research on Russian and Chinese online information operations and is a recognized expert, having appeared on international...
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Episode 85: Jahon Jamali On Bitcoin, Ethereum, and the Coming Metaverse
In this OODAcast we talk with Jahon Jamali of Sarson Funds about a range of cryptocurrency issues including his coming book Deep Crypto. We also dive deep into the coming Metaverse. Jahon Jamali is a leading expert on emerging technologies, global risk management and international relations. He...
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Episode 84: Maury Rogow: Every Corporation Will Have A Metaverse Strategy
Maury Rogow builds a solid case that your brand will live or die based on the story you tell in the metaverse. Maury is a pioneer in applying the art of storytelling to convey the value of technology in the Internet age. He built a successful approach to storytelling that made direct…
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Episode 83: Alan Cohen of DCVC on Investing in Deep Tech For Humanity
Alan Cohen is a partner at DCVC, a highly regarded venture capital firm who pioneered the concept of investing in Deep Tech. Alan has helped lead and grow some of the most influential enterprise IT companies in the world. This includes serving as a VP of Enterprise for Cisco. He has also advised...
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Episode 82: Digital Self Sovereignty and Avoiding the Long Night with John Robb
Our OODAcast with John Robb in June 2020 has proven to be one our most popular ever, so we were excited to host him for a second interview. John is one of the most disruptive thinkers of our time and is capable of drilling down on critical issues like security, society, and technology with deep...
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Episode 81: Inman's Rules: The Enduring Principles of Operational Intelligence
In this OODAcast we ask retired Admiral Bobby Ray Inman for insights into his approach to analyzing complex situation and managing intelligence efforts. Admiral Inman served in the Navy from November 1951 to July 1982, retiring with the rank of four star admiral, the first military intelligence...
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Episode 80: The Man Who Protects Our Secrets: Bob Bigman on Mitigating Enterprise Risks
Bob Bigman spent a career in the intelligence community. He was the CISO of the CIA where he was tasked with leading efforts to protect the nation's most sensitive secrets. He remains a practitioner. Since 2012 he has provided direct consulting services to CISOs, CIOs, CTOs and CEOs seeking to...
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Informing your decisions with intelligence, analysis, and insight on technology, business, cybersecurity, and global risk issues.Brought to you by the team at OODAloop.com
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