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OOP (the pod)
by Liam & Michael
The out-of-pocket podcast that feels like a late-night best-friend debrief, hosted by Liam & Michael, two queer creatives turning internet drama into emotional breakthroughs. Messy, honest, and lowkey therapeutic…just how we like it. *Pull up a chair on Patreon for exclusive episodes and behind-the-scenes convos.*
Episodes
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Out of Office. Out of Country.
This episode is about moving to Spain, taking a short break from the pod, and giving ourselves time to settle into a completely new way of life. We talk moving out, one last landlord horror story, the Airbnb we’re staying in, and the early culture shocks already making us excited for what Europe...
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We’ve Been Waiting | Spain, Visas & Letting Go
We’ve been waiting. This episode is about moving to Spain, visa limbo, grief, and trying to keep going when the plan refuses to plan. We talk about one visa being approved while the other is still pending, selling almost everything at a yard sale, and moving through a process that refuses to…
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No Coachella. No Furniture. No Shrimp.
This episode is about moving apartments, cancelling Coachella, shrimp cholesterol, and trying to lead a balanced life without making it everyone’s problem. We talk about our recent Canada trip with friends, living in an apartment while everything we own is either sold, packed, or spiritually...
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We Don't Dream of Work
We don’t dream of work. This episode is about quitting our jobs, being unemployed by choice, building a career that actually works for you, and what happens when you stop organizing your life around work. We talk about the delusion of our last weeks, what makes a strong design portfolio, how to…
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Gay Overachievers Anonymous
Gay overachievers, reporting for duty. This episode is about burnout, scaling back, leaving a 9–5, and what happens when you stop operating on hyperdrive. We talk comparing ourselves to bigger shows, breaking routines, and the emotional release that comes with doing something different. Between…
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Take This As A Sign
Take this as a sign. This episode is about quitting your job, near-death experiences, the Spring Equinox, and what happens when you stop ignoring yourself. We start with Disney nostalgia and slowly move into something deeper — a conversation about rebirth, timing, and what it actually means to…
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Dear Aliens: HELP
Dear aliens: help. This week we’re talking aliens—starting with a deep dive into Bugonia, a new favorite film that blends alien storytelling with unexpected themes like bees, symbolism, color theory, and striking frame composition. From there we spiral into alien archetypes in storytelling…
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Midnight Sun, Midday Naps
Fresh off the Midnight Sun tour, we’re yapping about Zara Larsson, Amelia Moore, and our time wandering around San Francisco—somewhere between music highs, midday naps, and a renewed desire to make things again. We talk about bringing art and craft back into our lives, leaning into improvisation,...
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Girls Just Want to Log Off
Girls just want to log off. This week we’re yapping—Terri Joe, Bridgerton rewatches, mid Raising Cane’s, Bamboo Village—and how convenience culture quietly eats up your time. We talk subscriptions, meal prep brands, pharmaceutical ads, library printing struggles, and the reality that everything…
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Year of Thee Fire Stallion
It’s the Year of the Fire Horse, and for the hotties, Year of Thee Stallion. We get into Chinese zodiacs and wellness culture, our own signs (Rat and Pig), what this year represents, and what reinvention looks like when you don’t announce it—you embody it. We also unpack Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl...
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Our Dopamine Menus
We’re building our dopamine menus—the music, pop culture, and rituals that actually make us feel better. From Grammys takes and favorite artists to Nene Leakes’ transformation and Bridgerton comfort watching, we get into the small things that regulate our brains and make life feel lighter. We…
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Hear Us Out...
We talk about “Hear Us Out” cakes of the cartoon and fictional characters we were obsessed with as queer teens—hot dads, villains, rivals, and emotionally unavailable animated men included. What starts as a bit becomes something more honest: how desire became one of the first safe ways we learned...
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Bring Back Yearning (Ep. 16)
In this episode, we talk honestly about moving through competitive sports as queer kids: overachieving, staying controlled, and learning how ambition, repression, and attraction quietly overlap. Sports weren’t just an escape—they were a way to stay contained. We unpack why Heated Rivalry hits so...
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Why Everyone’s Looking Back at 2016 (Ep. 15)
Everyone seems to be looking back at 2016—not because things were good, but because something changed after it. In this episode, Liam and Michael reflect on where they were in 2016, how they met, and how much they’ve grown by 2026. They unpack why nostalgia is everywhere right now, why it feels...
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God Is Non-Binary (Ep. 14)
We’re talking church culture, religious trauma, and the absurdity of growing up evangelical—from mass baptisms to the rules we weren’t allowed to question. This episode spirals through irreverent theology, falling from grace, and unlearning fear with humor instead of guilt. God is non-binary,...
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Yap, Ki & ADHD (Ep. 13)
This week was a full yap session. We're talking full ADHD energy, bringing whimsy back, nerve pain, trauma, being more straight-forward, and the things we've been watching lately–all with our usual out-of-pocket honesty. Welcome all microbangs and bi women (and their boyfriends). We talk about…
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What 2025 Taught Us (Ep. 12)
2025 changed us—and not in the way we expected. In this episode, we look back on the year with honesty, humor, and a few confessions we didn’t plan on making. What started with revisiting an old journal entry turns into a real conversation about growth, self-discovery, intention, and what it...
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Gay Christmas, Being Online & What We Want From Santa (Ep. 11)
A very special, very gay, holiday episode. Liam and Michael sing carols, discuss our "bad holiday movie" guilty pleasures and Christmas nostalgia—the good, the weird, and the traumatic... We talk being queer during the holidays, end-of-year brain rot, being online, and what we actually want from...
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We Need to Talk About Holiday Travel (Ep. 10)
Holiday travel makes everything worse. Liam & Michael are not well and stressed—navigating freezing weather, crowded airports, and coughing strangers—all while trying to stay festive. In this episode of OOP, we rant about holiday travel chaos, winter cold, the “are we okay?” spiral, internet...
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Art School Radicalized Us (Ep. 9)
Growing up queer was the prequel, but art school? That's the final boss. In this week’s episode, Liam & Michael unpack how learning real history, philosophy, and theory (aka the stuff public school trims out) fully rewired our brains. We get into politics, AI panic, and why we’re both…
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We Need To Talk About Stranger Things (Ep. 8)
Liam and Michael dive into Stranger Things Season 5—Karen’s wine-bottle moment, Will Byers entering his demon-tw*nk era, and everything we’re fully gooning over before the new episodes drop. Plus, honest reviews of everything else we’ve been watching: Wicked For Good, Frankenstein, and a chaotic...
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Thanksgiving Mukbang: TikTok Brainrot, Wicked Obsession & Actual Gratitude (Ep. 7)
We’re celebrating Thanksgiving with Mukbang–grab a seat and come eat with us! Liam and Michael chat TikTok brain rot, Wicked obsessions, and the kind of “gratitude” you have to teach yourself. Eat, laugh, and start a new tradition this holiday season, with OOP. Watch on YouTube, follow…
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Unpacking Thanksgiving: Myths, Mess & Gratitude (Ep. 6)
Thanksgiving is almost here, which means America is entering its yearly tradition of pretending the HIStory is anything other than a PR campaign. Liam and Michael peel back the myth, drag the modern holiday machine, and unpack why the whole thing has always felt… off. From “thankful, but make it...
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Disney Villains, Gay Awakenings & Our Wicked Era (Ep. 5)
From Ursula’s over-the-top evil energy to misunderstood characters like Elphaba, Disney villains have quietly shaped our gay awakenings for years. In this episode of OOP, Liam and Michael spiral through childhood queer epiphanies, zodiac signs, and all the ways growing up different can make you...
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Fridge Died, Insurance Sucks & If You Drink Cow’s Milk, Are You OK? (Ep. 4)
Our fridge died and so did our will to go on. Our insurance was useless and somehow cow’s milk became the target of our anger. In this episode of OOP, Liam and Michael air out the frustrations of a real-life appliance disaster. Join us for our fridge funeral and insurance nightmares stories full…
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Ghost Stories, Witchy Vibes & Signs from the Other Side (Ep. 3)
The spirits have entered the chat. In this extra spooky Halloween episode, Liam and Michael share their real-life ghost stories, talk about being a little witchy, and question what’s really out there. It’s a mix of laughs, goosebumps, and those moments that make you go, “wait… was that a sign?”...
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Renter Horror Stories, Hygiene Nightmares & Taylor vs Charli Drama (Ep. 2)
It’s spooky season, and nothing’s scarier than renting in this economy. In this Halloween episode of OOP, Liam and Michael swap renter horror stories that still haunt them, unpack the terrifying reality of straight men who don’t wash their bodies (a true nightmare), and dig into the Taylor Swift…
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Anything Worth It Is SCARY! (Ep. 1)
If you’ve ever second-guessed yourself before a big change, this episode is for you. We open up about leaving our hometowns, chasing bigger dreams, and learning to trust ourselves when fear shows up. Messy, honest, and sometimes chaotic, we vent, laugh, and share out-of-pocket stories about life,...
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The out-of-pocket podcast that feels like a late-night best-friend debrief, hosted by Liam & Michael, two queer creatives turning internet drama into emotional breakthroughs. Messy, honest, and lowkey therapeutic…just how we like it. *Pull up a chair on Patreon for exclusive episodes and behind-the-scenes convos.*
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