Other People's Money with Max Wiethe

Andy Unanue, Founder and Managing Partner of AUA Private Equity Partners and former COO of Goya Foods breaks down the trillion-dollar opportunity in US food, beverage, and pet wellness family businesses. Andy shares how his experience in a family-run business shaped his firm's strategy of partnering with lower-middle-market, family-run companies across those sectors and explains how AUA unlocks 15% to 30% operational efficiencies. The discussion dives into major consumer trends, including the humanization of pets, the rise of ethnic food markets, and the impact of GLP-1 drugs on snacking habits. Finally, Andy offers actionable advice on navigating generational wealth transfers, building positive workplace cultures, and transitioning family enterprises for long-term success. Learn more about AUA Private Equity Partners: https://auaequity.com Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:51 Goya Roots to PE 02:48 Market Size Focus 04:21 Operational Playbook 07:26 Exit Paths for Families 09:34 PE Exits and Buyers 13:18 Leaving Upside for the Next Buyer 16:17 Macro Trends Tailwinds 21:22 Beverage Bets and Risk 28:29 Authenticity Wins Consumers 31:41 Marketing and Internet Shift 36:10 Deal Sourcing and Moats 39:08 Co-Manufacturing Advantage 41:14 Regional Brands and Add Ons 44:56 Manufacturing Renaissance 53:34 Wealth Transfer and Family Offices 58:58 AUA Future and Wrap Up

Learn more about the Fundrise Income Fund here: https://Fundrise.com/mm Luke Gromen, founder of Forest for the Trees, sites down with Max Wiethe to dissect the escalating crisis in the global bond market. Gromen argues that off-balance sheet liabilities, such as baby boomer retirements and surging veterans' benefits, are colliding with massive defense spending to force a dangerous inflationary spiral. He unpacks how "defense stimmies" from nations like Japan and Germany are turning historical creditors into aggressive bond sellers, putting immense pressure on yields. Throughout the conversation, Gromen also issues a stark warning about the AI tech bubble, the incoming policies of new Fed Chair Kevin Warsh, and why China's massive gold accumulation is a major red flag for the US dollar. Read The Forest for the Trees: https://fftt-llc.com Follow Luke Gromen on X: https://x.com/LukeGromen Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:52 Bond Selloff Explained 04:54 Debt Spiral Mechanics 08:22 Global Defense Stimulus 09:58 Real Yields Reality Check 13:20 Fed Chair Fantasy 15:34 Sponsor Break Fundrise 16:57 AI Trade Meets China 20:52 Labor Data Warning 23:02 AI Backstop Coming 26:28 No Long Bond Floor 30:44 Gold Revaluation Debate 35:27 China Gold Buying Surge 36:31 Oil Reserves And Leverage 39:19 Pain Contest with The West 43:22 Inequality and Instability 47:18 Dollar Down Yield Trap 50:03 Buy the Dip 52:12 Gold Targets and Gradualism 54:50 Bitcoin Lags Tech Risk 58:47 Warsh Fed No Good Options 01:02:55 What Breaks First? 01:05:33 Bonds Are the Biggest Bubble

Learn more about Teucrium’s Soybean ETF (SOYB) here: https://teucrium.com/soyb Free E-book from Teucrium: https://insights.teucrium.com/why-investors-turning-to-commodity-etfs In this episode of Other People's Money, Max Wiethe sits down with hedge fund manager Russell Clark to discuss why he believes the U.S. Treasury market is a much larger and more dangerous speculative bubble than AI. Clark details his macroeconomic outlook, arguing that a shifting political landscape focused on 7% wage growth and lower living costs will eventually push the 10-year Treasury yield up to an astonishing 10%. To stabilize affordability for younger generations, he predicts real estate will remain flat nominally while heavily declining in real terms. Clark also breaks down the massive capital expenditures in AI, viewing them as defensive strategies by legacy tech giants to protect their moats rather than mere speculation. Finally, Clark also warns about sectors reliant on low rates and the severe illiquidity and mispriced risks currently lurking within the private credit and private equity markets. Read Russell’s Substack: https://www.russell-clark.com Follow Russell Clark on X: https://x.com/rampagingruss Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod SOYB Fund Page & Prospectus: www.teucrium.com/soyb Investing in SOYB involves risk, including the possible loss of principal. Commodity investments are subject to significant volatility. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Investors should carefully consider the investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses of the Teucrium Soybean Fund before investing. The prospectus contains this and other important information about the Fund. This material must be proceeded or accompanied by the prospectus. The prospectus is available atteucrium.com/soyb. Marketing Agent: PINE Distributors LLC. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:38 Why Treasuries Look Risky 04:33 Foreign Reserves Shift from Gold to Bonds 08:59 Politics Turns Inflationary 14:12 Japan Leads 16:09 Wage Inflation Drives Yields 20:37 Sponsor Break SOYB 21:58 High Real Rates New Normal 26:14 Trading Long View vs Noise 29:09 Housing Tug of War 34:02 Politics Converge Anyway 36:03 Chips Are New Oil 38:38 Is AI a Bubble? 44:12 AI and Wage Politics 50:37 Strategic AI Spending 54:17 Leverage Unwind Risks 59:29 Private Credit Red Flags 01:04:13 Wrap Up and Links

Moritz Seibert and Moritz Heiden of Takahe Capital dive deep into the mechanics of high-octane trend-following strategies and unpack why they target 25-30% annualized volatility, bucking the institutional trend of lower volatility to capture massive outlier trades like the recent cocoa and gold runs. They explore the heated debate between dynamic position sizing and classic approaches, revealing why letting winners run is crucial for massive returns. The conversation also touches on the emerging world of perpetual futures on decentralized platforms and why keeping trading models simple often beats complex fundamental analysis. Follow Moritz Seibert on X: https://x.com/moritzseibert Follow Moritz Heiden on X: https://x.com/moritzheiden Follow Takahe Capital on X: https://x.com/TakaheCapital Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:14 Do You Need Big Trends 03:21 Smooth vs Choppy Trends 05:00 Oil Curve Positioning 07:43 Model Design Not Discretion 09:24 Why Trend Funds Differ 16:02 Classic Trend Playbooks 19:04 Sizing Beats Entry 25:01 Perpetual Futures Reality 32:41 High Octane Philosophy 35:22 Letting Winners Get Huge 39:04 Why Trends End Late 41:55 Price Only vs Fundamentals 46:28 What’s Trending Now 49:57 Spreads Underperforming 52:37 When Signals Die 57:49 Simple Robust Parameters 01:00:59 Design Without Optimization 01:05:43 Diversification and Investors 01:09:32 Uniqueness and Market Mix 01:14:21 Who Buys High Vol 01:15:54 Conclusion

Sean McGould, CEO and CIO of $19 billion hedge fund manager The Lighthouse Group, joins OPM to discuss navigating today's bull market by targeting diverse sources of global alpha. The conversation focuses on Japan as a new source of alpha, spurred by the country's historic corporate governance reforms, the unwinding of cross-shareholdings, and the new NISA guidelines driving unprecedented retail investment. Additionally, McGould breaks down how the AI capital expenditure arms race is shaping global equity issuance and explains why the multi-manager "pod shop" model is the true modern successor to Wall Street's legacy proprietary trading desks. Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Japan Market Shift 01:29 Lighthouse Group 04:53 Why Hedge in Bull Runs? 10:43 Equity Issuance Signals 13:33 Capex Versus Meme Raises 16:27 AI Inside Lighthouse 18:20 Specialists vs. Generalists 19:42 AI Fuels Asia Outperformance 21:18 Japan Reforms and Nikkei 24:43 Korea Value Up Program 27:44 Fixing Incentive Imbalances 32:34 Sector Pair Trades Explained 33:56 Factor Neutrality Pitfalls 34:44 AI and Narrative Factors 41:54 Why Liquidity Means Capacity 44:34 Hidden Alpha in Regulation 50:30 Hedging Regulatory Unknowns 53:50 Peak Pod Shop Debate 57:40 Diversification and Market Liquidity

Leading IPO researcher Jay Ritter, widely known as "Mr. IPO" and the director of the IPO Initiative at the University of Florida's Warrington College of Business breaks down the historic 2026 public market landscape. Ritter analyzes the unprecedented potential for a wave of mega-IPOs from tech giants like SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic. He dives into the realities of staggering price-to-sales ratios, warning that while AI offers immense technological promise, eye-watering trillion-dollar valuations leave very little room for error. Ritter also cuts through the hype surrounding retail access to venture capital and private equity, explaining why extra layers of middlemen, "volatility washing," and an evaporating illiquidity premium mean average investors aren't actually missing out on a free lunch. Professor Ritter’s IPO Data: https://site.warrington.ufl.edu/ritter/ipo-data/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:58 Meet Mr IPO 01:40 2026 is Unprecedented 02:52 Do IPOs Signal Tops 04:27 How IPO Pricing Works 05:57 SpaceX Valuation Risks 09:26 TAM Hype and Cursor 13:27 2026 Versus Past Waves 16:17 Must Own AI Exposure 19:46 Regulation and Unintended Effects 27:29 Geopolitics and Dual Use 29:10 Will IPO Volume Boom? 32:40 VC/PE = No Free Lunch 35:36 Retail Access Fee Stacking 39:14 Volatility Washing and Perps 49:09 Sentiment and Final Takeaways

In this episode of Other People's Money, host Max Wiethe sits down with Shashank Chiranewala, founder of the new investment platform Plutus, to explore the future of independent research and portfolio management. Shashank explains why his platform is fundamentally different from the copy trading trend, emphasizing the importance of aligning model portfolios with an investor's unique risk-reward needs rather than blindly following a single strategy. They dive into the technical nightmares of executing global, active strategies on your own—like navigating foreign market rules and tracking errors—and how Plutus provides an automated, seamless execution solution for both individual and professional investors. Finally, they discuss why top independent researchers from Substack and FinTwit are choosing to list their portfolios on Plutus rather than launching traditional fund vehicles. Check out Plutus: https://www.runplutus.com/ Follow Plutus on X: https://x.com/RunPlutus Follow Shashank on X: https://x.com/sonny_seattle Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:37 The Broken Options 03:54 From Research to Investing 04:28 Why Not Copy Trading 07:56 SPY and Portfolio Fit 12:25 Building Multi Portfolio Strategies 14:58 Menu vs Tools Debate 20:34 Execution Is the Moat 25:17 Meet the Research Partners 28:18 Who Uses Plutus? 32:04 Creators and Regulation 36:26 Big Vision and Tokenization 38:42 Taxes and Compliance 44:43 How the Platform Works 46:32 Conclusion

In this episode of Other People’s Money, host Max Wiethe sits down with Chris Semenuk, an investment partner at Tema ETFs, to discuss the massive secular tailwinds driving the US manufacturing and electrification renaissance. Semenuk argues that after a three-year recession and decades of underinvestment, US industrial capacity and manufacturing are finally entering a powerful recovery cycle. Moving beyond the hype of AI and hyperscalers, they explore how "boring" short-cycle industrial companies like those producing essential components like ball bearings, pneumatics, and filters are primed for extraordinary earnings growth. They also discuss how America’s electrification mega trend goes beyond the AI data center buildout. Follow Chris on X: https://x.com/ChrisSemenuk Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Manufacturing Recession Ends 00:46 Meet the Industrial Bull 02:00 Proof Reindustrialization Is Real 05:28 What Reindustrialization Really Means 07:49 Why Companies Build Here 12:45 Advanced Goods Not Old Jobs 15:52 AI Hype Versus Reality 17:27 Picking the Equipment Winners 21:46 Inside Factory Wall Plays 23:26 Short Cycle Sequencing 27:53 Destocking Rates Tariffs Fog 32:28 Why Stocks Held Up 37:03 Valuing Cyclical Industrials 45:05 Tariffs Drive Onshoring 50:31 Humanoids And Automation 54:31 Grid Demand Inflection 57:05 Behind the Meter Reality 01:01:10 Rural Utilities Winners 01:08:22 High Voltage Bottleneck 01:14:40 Service Backlogs and Duration 01:18:28 Secular Tailwinds Wrap Up

In this episode of Other People’s Money, host Max Wiethe sits down with Michael Fritzell, author of Asian Century Stocks, to break down the massive valuation divergence playing out across Asian equity markets. Michael explains why he believes the skyrocketing AI and memory chip sectors in South Korea and Taiwan have entered dangerous bubble territory, fueled by unsustainable profit estimates that ignore looming Chinese supply. Instead of chasing the tech hype, he highlights the massive upside hidden in overlooked South Korean small caps and Japanese growth stocks that are trading at single-digit multiples despite solid fundamentals. Tune in to discover how corporate governance reforms, insider buying trends, and a forming "New Cold War" are creating the ultimate stock-picker's market. Read Asian Century Stocks: https://www.asiancenturystocks.com/ Follow Michael on X: https://x.com/MikeFritzell Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Korea Chip Bubble Warning 00:42 Why Asia Diverges Now 02:26 AI Mania Hits Korea 04:37 Bubble Case for Memory 06:40 China Supply Response 09:18 Memory Versus Logic Chips 11:33 Speculation on the Ground 13:41 Western Investors Pile In 15:44 Japan Reforms and Yen Boom 18:26 Korea Governance Fixes 24:20 Korea Small Cap Hunting 25:45 K Beauty and Cultural Exports 30:52 Finding Ideas Before The US 31:57 Nintendo Versus Memory Costs 33:19 Nintendo Release Drought 35:36 Switch 2 Execution Questions 37:39 Family Console vs Roblox 38:25 Iran War Energy Shock 41:50 India & China Underperformance 45:17 China Crackdowns Risk 50:42 The China Gray Zone Trade 54:25 New Cold War Lines 56:54 Hunting Value Across Asia 01:02:19 Reforms and Value Programs 01:04:06 How Much to Allocate to Asia 01:07:41 Where to Follow Michael

Learn more about the Fundrise Income Fund here: https://fundrise.com/mm In this episode of Other People's Money, GTIS Partners founder and CIO Tom Shapiro breaks down how massive macroeconomic shifts, including AI and inflation, are reshaping the global real estate landscape. He explains why his firm is heavily betting on a San Francisco recovery driven by the booming AI sector, and how they are scooping up properties at steep discounts to replacement costs. Shapiro also details the severe oversupply challenges currently stalling popular Sun Belt cities, alongside the firm's strategic push into industrial logistics to capitalize on domestic reshoring trends. Finally, he shares decades of expertise on navigating the complex Brazilian real estate market, offering a masterclass on global investment strategies in a high-interest-rate environment. Learn more about GTIS Partners: https://www.gtispartners.com/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:30 Macro Shocks and Inflation 02:30 AI Disruption Risks 04:27 Tracking Jobs and Households 06:09 Immigration and Rate Politics 08:03 Build to Rent Bill Fallout 11:57 Affordability and Mortgage Rates 14:41 Fundrise Income Fund 16:36 Regional Winners and Losers 17:12 Sun Belt Oversupply Pain 19:57 San Francisco Comeback Thesis 24:35 AI Occupancy and Investment Plays 28:28 Picking Buildings Block by Block 30:02 Picking the Right Building 30:21 Safety and City Recovery 33:39 AI Jobs and Office Demand 35:17 Froth and Real Revenues 37:39 Data Centers NIMBY Debate 39:54 Reshoring and Warehouse Boom 44:09 Real Estate Capital Markets 49:07 Why Brazil Worked 52:46 Brazil Rates and Currency 55:15 Politics and China Pull 58:44 US Outlook and Wrap Up

Learn More About Unlimited HFGM Global Macro ETF $HFGM: https://unlimitedetfs.com/hfgm Andreas Steno Larsen, macro researcher from Real Vision, joins Max Wiethe on Other People’s Money to discuss the shifting macro regime where inflation has returned and is pushing US Treasury yields over 5%. They discuss the market’s expectation for interest rate hikes and how the new Fed chair Kevin Warsh will react to this environment. They also discuss the other dominant force in markets right now, the AI buildout. Steno Larsen argues that things are going to get crazier before the cycle turns later this year, but in the meantime the shortages in the AI supply chain are creating unappreciated winners in the technology sector. Follow Andreas Steno Larsen on X: https://x.com/AndreasSteno Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:50 Inflation and the Big Macro Shift 01:43 Transitory Inflation Debate 04:19 Bond Trade Timing 06:13 Steep Curve Playbook 09:41 Why Steepening Helps 12:24 Strong Dollar EM Risk 14:35 HFGM Unlimited Funds 16:51 India Data Versus Rupee 18:24 Energy Supply Countdown 21:23 LatAm Underperformance 23:27 AI Inflation Link 26:52 Korea Semis Surge 28:26 Momentum with Earnings 30:39 Quantum Hype Warning 32:24 Semis Cycle Peak Question 34:47 Late Cycle Winners Flip 39:01 IPO Supply and Rotation 43:35 Valuation Metrics Reframed 46:11 Hidden Scarcity Trade 49:21 Goods Inflation Returns 51:15 AI Jobs and Robotics 54:07 White Collar Disruption Map 59:53 LLMs and Bad Facts 01:04:47 Momentum vs. Value Edge 01:06:15 Rapid Fire Outlook and Wrap

Learn more about the Fundrise Income Fund here: https://fundrise.com/mm In this episode of Other People's Money, Thomas Lloyd-Jones, Co-founder and CIO of Zenzic Capital, joins the show to unpack the nuances of the real estate private credit market. He explains how the media often conflates direct lending with the broader asset class, overlooking real estate and asset-backed lending. Lloyd-Jones details how increasing banking regulations are forcing traditional lenders to retreat, creating a widening gap for opportunistic credit funds to step in. This podcast is for informational purposes only and not an inducement to invest with Zenzic Capital. Zenzic Capital’s investment products are limited to professional clients only. The information within this podcast should not be relied upon as tax, legal or investment advice. Learn more about Zenzic Capital: https://zenziccapital.com/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:52 Private Credit Breakdown 03:32 BDCs And Redemptions 06:35 Allocation Failure Debate 08:47 Regulation and Fragmentation 12:07 Basel III Shift 14:10 Fundrise Income Fund 15:10 Systemic Risk and Leverage 17:36 Banks’ Retreat is Opportunity 20:56 Good vs. Bad Risk Premia 24:39 Senior Finance 28:44 Downside Protection and Spotting Bad Deals 37:48 Macro Matters for Exits 40:13 Finding Fixable Distress 43:22 Geopolitics and Rate Shock 47:01 Preferred Equity Playbook 51:49 When Development Risk Pays 54:52 Student Housing Reality Check 59:40 Macro Allocation Framework 01:01:59 Conclusion

Monetary Matters is now streaming daily as part of Monitoring the Situation. Join us live on X and YouTube from 4 to 5 PM ET Monday through Friday @MTSlive for live interviews and analysis breaking down the market’s most important situations. This is recording of a recent live interview from MTS. Hosts Jack Farley and Max Wiethe are joined by Moez Kassam, the Chief Investment Officer of Anson Funds. Moez breaks down his strategy for generating alpha by acting as a contrarian and fading the crowd during times of rampant market speculation. In this episode, we cover: • The SpaceX IPO Rumors: Moez discusses the potential mechanics of the largest expected IPO in history and the rumors of early investor unlocks. He also details the "Day 9" trading strategy surrounding Nasdaq index inclusion. • The Massive Cannabis Opportunity: Learn why Anson Funds believes the U.S. cannabis sector could see a 400% move in a few years. Moez breaks down the DEA's descheduling process and the elimination of the restrictive 280E tax code. • Software and Activism: Why the indiscriminate selling of software stocks has created a massive opportunity for free cash flow investors and activist campaigns. • Navigating Emerging Tech: A candid assessment of AI, Space, and Quantum technologies. Moez explains why Quantum is facing a massive discount rate and why investors should be wary of the "me-too" space stocks. • Crypto & Private Credit: Insights from the recent Trump Crypto Conference and why the extreme negative sentiment around private credit makes its 10-15% yields highly attractive. Follow Moez Kassam on Instagram: @munchingmoez Follow Moez Kassam on X: https://x.com/MunchingMoez Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:10 SpaceX IPO Setup 05:49 Index Inclusion Trade 07:21 S-1 Filing Reality Check 08:32 Elon Rolls Up Businesses 12:12 Shorting Space Me Toos 13:35 AI, Space, Quantum Hype 16:18 Software Selloff and Activism 18:42 Cannabis Contrarian Bet 21:44 Descheduling Mechanics 24:30 AI & Semis: Crowded Trade? 26:10 Crypto Mood Shift 29:29 Media Activism Plays 31:16 Software Cash Flow vs Hype 34:49 Measuring Market Sentiment 37:51 Bitcoin Crowd Psychology 40:06 Shipping and Energy Contrarian 41:16 Canada: Gold & Oil Pulse 43:35 Process Over Predictions 45:50 Private Credit Negativity 46:34 Outro

This episode is brought to you by CAIA.nxt. Learn more about their alternatives education courses for investment advisors and get 10% off with code MMTEN: https://caia.org/content/welcome-monetary-matters-and-other-peoples-money-listeners Kieran Cavanna, the founder and CIO of Old Farm Partners and former head of external managers at Soros Fund Management joins Other People’s Money to break down his high-conviction approach to thematic investing, explaining why "making the main thing the main thing" is the secret to capturing outsized returns in the public markets. From his time working under legendary macro investor Scott Bessent to his current focus at Old Farm Partners, Kieran shares how he identifies "asymmetric" opportunities where the upside is massive and the downside is protected. If you've ever wondered how the world’s most sophisticated allocators source managers and structure co-investments to beat the market, this is an interview you can't miss. Listen to the Thematic Investors Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTSvmgAOiFVttgxmUaO4hSgMxutOwyS9T Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:17 Soros External Managers 03:36 What Makes Great Managers 07:01 Spotting Skill Vs Luck 08:47 Risk Management 12:37 Geography and Benchmarks 15:21 Style Drift and Communication 18:57 Fees and Multi Strat Debate 22:30 Spinouts and Independence 26:47 Co-Investing in Public Markets 30:06 Allocator Base and Drawdown Focus 31:12 Family Office Allocators 32:13 Private Credit Shift 36:57 Big Launches Small Wins 38:40 AI CapEx Main Event 41:26 Defense Tech Next Theme 42:44 Asymmetry Not Binary 44:51 Cross Sector Blind Spots 49:51 Crowded Trades Unwind 52:58 Macro Themes Bottom Up 57:37 Risks and Hedging 59:42 Thematic Investors Podcast

This episode is sponsored by Pictet Asset Management and its AI-enhanced equity ETFs. Pictet AI Enhanced US Equity ETF (PQUS): https://etf.am.pictet.com/pqus/?utm_campaign=usetf&cid=2826077237&utm_source=jfmv&utm_content=pquslp&utm_medium=podcast_02&utm_term=noterm Pictet AI Enhanced International Equity ETF (PQNT): https://etf.am.pictet.com/pqnt/?utm_campaign=usetf&cid=2715538577&utm_source=jfmv&utm_content=pqnt&utm_medium=podcast_02&utm_term=noterm In this episode of the OPM podcast, Avery and Co. founder Sean Emory explains why he firmly rejects the stagflation narrative and believes the consumer remains in fine shape. Emory argues that despite the psychological impact of higher gas prices, strong tax refunds and a stable housing market are continuing to support consistent consumer spending. He breaks down how this stable macroeconomic view aligns with his fundamental investment approach, detailing high-conviction bets on consumer-oriented companies like Clear Secure and First Watch. The conversation also explores how Emory leverages these macro insights alongside bottom-up analysis to identify long-term value in technology platforms such as Block, Zoom, and Omnicell. Listen to Avory’s Podcast here: https://www.avory.xyz/insidescooppodcast Follow Sean Emory on X: https://x.com/_SeanDavid Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:26 Avery Investing Style 02:56 Oil Shock Consumer Check 06:27 Housing Inflation Outlook 10:37 K Shaped Economy 13:50 AI, Employment, and Flows 18:06 Pictet AI-Enhanced Equity ETFs 19:41 Using AI for Investment Research 28:12 How AI is Making Trading More Short Term 31:09 Block ($XYZ) Investment Thesis 36:26 Zoom ($ZM) Investment Thesis 43:35 Defining Small Caps 45:57 Omnicell ($OMCL) Investment Thesis 53:42 Zillow ($Z) and Airbnb ($ABNB) Investment Thesis 54:58 Zillow Flywheel Explained 01:02:02 Housing Catalysts 01:04:30 Waiting Out AI Valuations 01:07:31 SpaceX IPO Speculation 01:09:31 Outro

This episode is sponsored by Pictet Asset Management and its AI-enhanced equity ETFs. Pictet AI Enhanced US Equity ETF (PQUS): https://etf.am.pictet.com/pqus/?utm_campaign=usetf&cid=2826077237&utm_source=jfmv&utm_content=pquslp&utm_medium=podcast_02&utm_term=noterm Pictet AI Enhanced International Equity ETF (PQNT): https://etf.am.pictet.com/pqnt/?utm_campaign=usetf&cid=2715538577&utm_source=jfmv&utm_content=pqnt&utm_medium=podcast_02&utm_term=noterm Max Wiethe sits down with Ben Topor, founder of Titan Capital Partners and author of Decoding the Software Landscape, to unpack the seismic shifts happening in the tech investment world. Topor explains how AI is commoditizing the software application layer and shares why the recent correction in software valuations makes this a prime time to invest. The conversation also delves into the booming secondary market, the structural differences between US and Israeli tech hubs, and how startups can build unbreachable AI-proof moats through distribution and proprietary data. Finally, Topor reveals the strategic tactics founders use to outmaneuver tech giants by moving in silence and misdirecting competitors. Follow Ben Topor: https://x.com/ben_topor Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:10 Mapping the Software Landscape 03:45 What AI Changes in Software 09:13 AI Led M&A Wave 13:36 Valuations and Timing 15:34 Secondaries Liquidity Thesis 17:33 Pictet AI-Enhanced Equity ETFs 19:08 How Titan Buys Secondaries 21:07 Why Companies Stay Private 23:00 Finding Category Leaders 26:47 Reading Financial Symptoms 28:37 Mispriced Gems or Turnarounds? 31:25 Exit Paths Today 35:17 Investing in Israel 38:16 Cybersecurity Edge 41:08 Too Much Capital 43:38 AI Proof Moats 45:17 What Counts as Data 46:40 Private Credit Risks 50:36 Down Rounds Reframed 53:51 Titan’s Value Add 57:18 Competitive Maneuvering 01:02:37 Conclusion

This episode is sponsored by Pictet Asset Management and its AI-enhanced equity ETFs. Pictet AI Enhanced US Equity ETF (PQUS):   https://etf.am.pictet.com/pqus/?utm_campaign=usetf&cid=2826077237&utm_source=jfmv&utm_content=pquslp&utm_medium=podcast_02&utm_term=noterm Pictet AI Enhanced International Equity ETF (PQNT):  https://etf.am.pictet.com/pqnt/?utm_campaign=usetf&cid=2715538577&utm_source=jfmv&utm_content=pqnt&utm_medium=podcast_02&utm_term=noterm Emerging market outperformance is turning investors’ heads and in this episode of Other People’s Money, Robert Koenigsberger, CIO and founder of multi-billion dollar EM alternative asset manager Gramercy, explains why the macro environment has emerging markets looking more developed than some developed markets, particularly in how swiftly their central banks acted to combat inflation. He also explains how passive index investing can do damage to an emerging market portfolio and why the typical EM approach focusing on exposure is all wrong. Koenigsberger also dives into the structural advantages of emerging market private credit over its developed market counterparts, emphasizing the importance of local networks, senior secured collateral, and having a positive influence on corporate governance. Follow Robert Koenigsberger on X: https://x.com/GramercyRK Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:36 Pictet AI ETFs 01:54 How EM Investing Evolved 02:48 Why EMs Outperformed 04:08 Debt vs Equity Returns 06:09 Policy Convergence EM vs. DM 08:33 Diversifying Beyond Dollar 11:30 EM Private Credit 14:57 Pictet AI ETFs 16:32 Why Borrowers Choose Private 21:06 Defining EM Alpha 25:23 Index Construction Pitfalls 28:57 True Distress and Asymmetry 33:14 China Property Deep Value 35:15 Picking Winners at Five Cents 38:33 Sovereign Timing Checklist 40:07 Sanctions and “Uninvestibility” 43:37 Structuring Downside Control 44:58 Creditor Groups Collaboration 48:55 Restructuring Deal Template 50:23 Warrants Windfalls Risks 53:19 Governance in Private Credit 59:02 Underwriting People Networks 01:02:43 Hedging Without Shorting 01:05:49 Allocator Case for EM Credit 01:08:40 Liquidity Myths and Cycles

This episode is sponsored by Pictet Asset Management and its AI-enhanced equity ETFs. Pictet AI Enhanced US Equity ETF (PQUS):   https://etf.am.pictet.com/pqus/?utm_campaign=usetf&cid=2826077237&utm_source=jfmv&utm_content=pquslp&utm_medium=podcast_02&utm_term=noterm Pictet AI Enhanced International Equity ETF (PQNT):  https://etf.am.pictet.com/pqnt/?utm_campaign=usetf&cid=2715538577&utm_source=jfmv&utm_content=pqnt&utm_medium=podcast_02&utm_term=noterm Join Max Wiethe on "Other People's Money" as he sits down with world-renowned performance coach Dr. Gio Valiante. Dr. Valiante has spent decades coaching elite performers, from PGA Tour champions like Jordan Spieth to legendary portfolio managers at Point 72 and Citadel. In this deep-dive podcast, Dr. Valiante pulls back the curtain on the psychology of the world’s most successful investors. He explains that top traders operate with the discipline and optimization of elite athletes—"investor athletes"—who must manage fear, detach from ego, and master their environment. Follow Dr. Gio: https://x.com/GioValiante Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:42 Pictet ETFs 00:55 Why Pods Took Over 03:04 Culture and Incentives Matter 05:19 Fear in Trading Explained 08:53 Embarrassment and Risk Aversion 12:03 Playing to Win vs Not Lose 13:21 Elite Funds Audit Process 14:34 Regret and Missed Trades 19:21 Pictet AI ETFs 20:56 Detaching from Short Term PnL 22:21 Weekends Recovery for PMs 24:15 Handling Weekend News Cycles 28:41 Regulation Favors Big Platforms 32:30 Spinoffs Vs Bootstrapping 33:29 Bootstrapped Edge 34:33 Leaving Pod Shop Reality 36:05 Situated Cognition Explained 37:55 Culture Sparks Ideas 39:43 Mandates and Opportunity Cost 41:17 Ego Identity and Seat 45:04 Capital Cycles Perspective 48:46 Entitlement Versus Humility 54:39 Performance Hierarchy 57:57 Why Hedge Funds Matter 01:00:18 Masters Picks and Wrap 01:01:54 Pictet AI ETFs

Learn more about Teucrium’s CORN ETF (CORN) here: https://teucrium.com/corn Nadia Martin Wiggen, Director at Svelland Capital joins Other People’s Money for a timely update on energy and shipping markets in light of the “5-day pause” Truth Social post that sent equity markets ripping higher and oil prices dipping lower. She explains why Svelland Capital believes May is the real timeline for controlling the Strait, how refining margins and refined product hoarding create a persistent bid for oil and gas, and how global energy supply chains have shifted with many ships sailing well outside of typical trade routes in their quest for alternative sources of oil. She also touches on how a protracted crisis would harm Asia, Australia, and emerging markets the most. Svelland Capital: https://www.svelland.com/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod This episode is sponsored by the Teucrium Corn Fund (CORN). Download our free eBook, "Why Investors Are Increasingly Turning to Commodity ETFs," to explore the macro forces shaping commodity markets today. Download the eBook: insights.teucrium.com/why-investors-turning-to-commodity-etfs CORN Fund Page & Prospectus: www.teucrium.com/corn This material must be preceded or accompanied by a prospectus. The prospectus is available at https://teucrium.com/corn. Investing involves risk, including the possible loss of principal. Commodities and futures generally are volatile, and instruments whose underlying investments include commodities and futures are not suitable for all investors. Past performance does not guarantee future results. For further discussion of these and additional risks associated with an investment in the Funds please read the respective Fund Prospectus before investing. CORN, CANE, SOYB, and WEAT are commodity pools regulated by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC). The Funds do not track the spot price of corn, sugar, soybeans or wheat. These Funds, which are ETPs, are not a mutual fund or any other type of Investment Company within the meaning of the Investment Company Act of 1940, as amended, and are not subject to regulation thereunder. Teucrium Trading, LLC is the Sponsor for CORN, CANE, SOYB, and WEAT. PINE Distributors LLC is the Marketing Agent for CORN, CANE, SOYB, and WEAT and is not affiliated with Teucrium Investment Advisors, LLC and Teucrium Trading, LLC. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:46 Reaction to Trump Announcement and State of the Strait 01:57 Strait Reality Check 05:53 Oil Flows and Bottlenecks 09:32 Asia Scrambles for Supply 12:55 China Refined Export Ban 14:01 Demand Destruction Thresholds 15:05 Military Path to Reopen 17:09 CORN Mid Roll 18:46 New Oil Price Floor 21:28 Broader Market Repricing 25:06 Shipping Rates and Europe Pull 27:33 Export Bans and Hoarding Spiral 30:11 US Refining Edge and Australia 34:37 LNG Shortfall and Europe Risk 41:00 Long Term Diversification 41:33 Trading Signals and Logistics 45:16 Most Vulnerable Products

Learn more about Teucrium’s Soybean ETF (SOYB) here: https://teucrium.com/soyb In this episode of Other People's Money, Max sits down with Chris Morris, President of LandFund Partners, to explore why they believe U.S. row crop farmland is the ultimate hard asset. Chris details how farmland performed as a portfolio diversifier during the Great Financial Crisis and explains why the relative value compared to other regions and essentially free access to 300-years of groundwater them has focusing on the U.S. Mid-South region. He highlights global water scarcity, food security, and inflation as macro drivers for this farmland, but he also argues that rising values and yields from technological improvements and increased demand for non-farming purposes like solar power are how they have delivered S&P 500 beating net returns since 2021. LandFund Partners website: https://www.landfundpartners.com/ Follow LandFund Partners on X: https://x.com/LandFundLP Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:40 Teucrium SOYB 01:00 Investing in Farmland 04:26 Diversification and Correlation 06:07 Real Assets and New Macro Risks 09:13 Scarcity and Water Thesis 10:48 Protein Demand Multiplier 12:45 How Farmland Returns Work 15:00 AI and Renewable Energy 15:41 Teucrium SOYB 17:02 Community Impact and Ethics 20:21 Who Buys Farmland? 22:47 Why the Mid-South 26:33 Valuation Gap Explained 28:25 Water Rights and Water Scarcity 35:06 Solar Leases Beat Crops 39:23 AI Boosts Farm Profits 42:22 Regenerative Farming and the Three Fs 44:35 Iran Conflict Inputs and Crops 48:26 Subsidies and Rent Security 54:02 Fund Focus and Growth Plans 57:30 Conclusion

Maredith Hannon, Head of Business Development at Wisdom Tree Digital, joins Other People’s Money to discuss how tokenized real-world assets are taking off at a pace eerily similar to the early growth of ETFs. Crypto enthusiasts have long touted the potential for fund vehicles to be tokenized and put on chain. That story is quickly becoming a reality with rapid AUM growth and established players like WisdomTree with over $100B in AUM quickly launching funds from money market and equity to alternatives like private credit. Hannon also discuss the additional utility that on chain funds provide and how they are giving access to retail and institutional clients alike with platforms like WisdomTree Prime and WisdomTree Connect. Follow Maredith Hannon on X: https://x.com/MaredithH1 Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 00:54 The Rise of Tokenization 02:20 WisdomTree's Tokenized Funds 04:35 Comparing ETFs and Tokenized Funds 10:35 User Experience in Tokenized Assets 20:29 Regulation and Future of Tokenized Funds 25:12 Tokenized Private Credit 26:01 Liquidity and Redemption in Private Credit Funds 28:08 Secondary Market and Peer-to-Peer Transfers 29:34 Transparency and Daily Updates 37:10 Future of KYC and Identity Verification 43:12 Global Expansion and New Use Cases 46:10 Getting Started with WisdomTree Prime

This episode is brought to you by CAIA.nxt. Learn more about their alternatives education courses for investment advisors and get 10% off with code MMTEN: https://caia.org/content/welcome-monetary-matters-and-other-peoples-money-listeners Steven Novakovic, Managing Director of Educational Programs at CAIA, discusses the monumental shift from strategic asset allocation to the Total Portfolio Approach (TPA), a change recently highlighted by major moves at CalPERS. The conversation explores the evolving landscape of private markets, specifically how secondary markets are providing crucial liquidity and entry points for investors dealing with slowed distributions and the "denominator effect". Novakovic also provides a candid look at the friction between hedge fund fees and beta-heavy returns, arguing that sophisticated limited partners will not pay for beta. As alternative investments become more accessible to retail wealth, he emphasizes the critical need for education regarding evergreen funds and the unique risks of private market liquidity. Finally, the episode looks forward to 2026 educational initiatives at CAIA. Follow Steve Novakovic on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-novakovic-caia/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to Governance Changes in Pension Plans 00:45 Strategic Asset Allocation vs. Total Portfolio Approach 03:24 Early Adopters and Global Trends in TPA 05:06 Benchmarking and Decision-Making Shifts 09:58 CalPERS Case Study: Governance and Tactical Opportunities 17:32 Impact on Managers and Investment Strategies 22:08 Current Market Trends and Private Credit 25:54 Private Equity Distributions and Secondary Markets 35:32 Reinvesting Portfolio Proceeds 36:39 Understanding Secondary Market Buyers 37:09 Benefits of Secondary Allocations 39:14 Challenges and Strategies in Secondary Markets 45:03 Hedge Funds vs. Equity Markets 46:35 Evaluating Hedge Fund Performance 49:02 Active Management and Fee Structures 56:53 Educating Investors on Alternatives 01:03:00 CAIA's Educational Resources 01:05:44 Upcoming CAIA Programs

In this episode of Other People’s Money, Matt Ober, General Partner at Social Leverage, discusses how the data economy is evolving for providers, vendors, and investors. He explains how AI is reshaping data business models, highlights emerging data sources in what he calls the “degenerate economy,” and argues that many alternative data sets once considered sources of alpha are rapidly becoming commoditized beta. Matt also shares how Social Leverage uses data to make seed stage venture investments, how its approach differs from that of mega VC firms, and where the firm is currently focused. He reflects on his career path from quantitative hedge funds to venture capital and how the expanding role of data shaped his trajectory in the investment business. Before joining Social Leverage, Matt was Chief Data Scientist at Third Point, where he built the firm’s data analytics and technology platform supporting investments across equities, structured credit, venture capital, and cryptocurrency. Earlier, he was Head of Data Strategy at WorldQuant and a founding member of WorldQuant Ventures, focused on private investments in fintech, data, and technology. Sign up for Matt’s newsletter The Rollup: https://www.mattober.co/ Follow Matt on X: https://x.com/obermattj Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:21 The Business of Data 03:28 Data Pricing and AI Impact 04:36 Challenges for Data Companies 07:31 Emerging Data Sets and Buyers 14:25 Social Leverage's Investment Strategy 17:07 Venture Capital Market Dynamics 21:22 Fund of Funds and Network Value 22:40 Insights on Software and AI 25:54 Beehive vs. Substack 29:46 Hedge Fund Journey and Data Evolution 31:41 The Data-Driven Investment Strategy 32:05 Scaling Up: From Millions to Billions 32:24 Global Data Acquisition 32:49 Building a Data-Driven Ecosystem 33:06 Transition to Third Point 33:43 Integrating Data with Investment Processes 34:34 Challenges and Politics in Hedge Funds 35:49 Evaluating Data Sets and Their Impact 37:43 The Evolution of Data in Investment 38:49 The Role of Data in Hedge Fund Success 43:10 From Hedge Funds to Venture Capital 52:08 The Future of Wealth Management 55:00 The Rise of Prediction Markets 59:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

This episode is brought to you by Fiscal.ai. Sign up for a 2-week free trial and get 15% off any paid tier at: http://fiscal.ai/mm Over the last 8 years, Yaron Naymark, founder and managing partner of 1 Main Capital, has patiently grown his concentrated long-biased hedge fund by outperforming major equity benchmarks like the S&P 500. Any manager who has been in his shoes though will tell you that outperforming the market isn’t enough to attract the institutional capital necessary to seriously scale a fund. Here he discusses the importance of consistency of communication with investors, how his portfolio management has evolved, and the other operational improvements he has made that have helped spur growth. He also discusses a $20m strategic investment from Cannell Capital he took in 2025 and how he thinks about these types of “seed” deals. Sign up for 1 Main Capital’s distribution list: https://www.1maincapital.com Follow Yaron Naymark on X: https://x.com/1MainCapital Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and Personal Insights on Investing 00:43 Guest Introduction and Fund Background 00:55 Fund Growth and Milestones 02:41 Challenges and Turning Points 03:20 Marketing and Investor Relations 07:41 Economic Considerations and Fund Management 10:51 Investment Philosophy and Strategy 27:08 Podcasting and Public Engagement 28:55 Transparency in Investment Strategies 29:41 Audience Growth and Distribution 31:03 Pitching Ideas and Raising Capital 32:20 Investment Minimums and Investor Relations 33:37 Marketing and Outreach Strategies 36:57 Switching to Jefferies and Other Service Providers 42:57 Strategic Investment from Cannell Capital 51:54 Hiring an Analyst and Future Plans 55:19 Managing Fund Capacity and Performance 58:40 Conclusion and Contact Information

This episode is brought to you by VanEck. Learn more about the VanEck Rare Earth and Strategic Metals ETF: http://vaneck.com/REMXMax Sam Gaer, CIO of Directional Strategies at Monarq Asset Management, joins Other People’s Money to discuss how he uses quantitative directional strategies to trade crypto assets and produce an institutional quality return stream that has outperformed bitcoin at scale. He explains how his experience as a market maker, executive, and self-taught electronic exchange technologist driving some of the most important technological advances in finance led him to “burn the boats,” leave tradfi, and go all in on building institutional crypto strategies with Monarq. He also discusses how institutional appetite for crypto hedge fund strategies is growing with increased regulatory clarity, greater availability of institutional level funds, and evolving market opportunities in crypto-native and crypto-linked tradfi assets. Follow Sam Gaer on X: https://x.com/samg67 Follow Monarq on X: https://x.com/monarq_mgmt Follow VanEck on X: https://x.com/vaneck_us Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:43 Q4 Crypto Volatility 06:21 A Disappointing Year for Crypto Bulls 10:29 Taking Advantage of Extreme Volatility 12:50 Triple Barrier Risk Management 15:43 $REMX 16:26 Responsible Leverage 17:17 Is the 4-Year Cycle Over 21:55 Early Days Pit Trading 24:16 Building Electronic Exchange Technology 26:38 CEO of NYMEX Europe and NYMEX IPO 27:24 Move to FINRA 28:43 Building and Selling a Volatility Hedge Fund 29:15 Burn the Boats 32:14 Joining Monarq 37:14 Differences Between Crypto Fund Managers and TradFi 39:17 Institutional Adoption of Crypto Hedge Funds 44:27 Can Crypto Strategies Scale to Meet the Demand? 47:19 The Crypto TradFi Collision 49:57 The Difference Between Institutional and Non-institutional Quality Crypto Funds 54:13 Hyper Liquid and Other Market Improvements in Crypto 59:26 Will TradFi Take Over Crypto? 01:01:31 Digital Asset Treasuries 01:08:46 The Next Stage for Monarq

This Other People’s Money episode is brought to you by CAIA.nxt. Learn more about their alternatives education courses for investment advisors and get 10% off with code MMTEN: https://caia.org/content/welcome-monetary-matters-and-other-peoples-money-listeners James Wang, General Partner at Creative Ventures and author of “What You Need to Know About AI” joins Other People’s Money to discuss the most pressing issues facing venture capital right now including: VC’s collision with public markets, the “RIAifaction” of VC firms, and the reality that there is still too much dry powder propping up venture valuations. Wang also discusses the difficulty of judging VC funds off of typical metrics like MOIC and TVPI, especially when the fund is still in the middle of its life cycle. Wang closes the podcast with his views on AI as expressed in his new book and the reasons why he believes many are being distracted by first-order effects. Follow James Wang on X: https://x.com/AJamesWang Read Weighty Thoughts: https://weightythoughts.com Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:22 The Collision of Public and Private Markets 04:13 Venture Capital is Following the Same Path as Other Asset Classes 05:52 Venture's Shifting Role in Portfolios 13:36 Venture Capital Emerging Managers 18:39 Corporate Venture Capital 20:58 The Most Active Venture LPs 22:45 Sovereign Wealth Funds and Strategic Venture 26:56 RIAs and Private Wealth as the Next Source of Capital 31:58 The Emergence of Star Athletes and Actors as VCs 33:41 Most VCs Don't Add Value to Portfolio Companies 35:31 Comparing VC Funds: The Metrics That Lie 43:32 Sneaky VC Marketing Tricks and Marketing Materials 48:33 Reference Checks and Speaking with Founders 50:17 The Dry Powder Bubble 57:41 What You Need to Know About AI 59:47 Tracking AI Progress 01:03:42 The Politics of AI 01:07:32 The Next Stage of Training AI Models

This Other People’s Money episode is brought you by Fiscal.ai. Sign up for a 2-week free trial and get 15% off any paid tier at: http://fiscal.ai/mm Fundamental long-short equity investing has been in decline with fewer new fund launches and dwindling assets, but David Stemerman, CEO, CIO and Co-founder of CenterBook Partners believes data clearly shows these investors still have significant investing skill. He argues that single manger hedge fund data collected using alpha capture can be used to construct new portfolios and strategies that will be more attractive for institutional investors. Through a combination of direct payments, data sharing, and partnering with single managers on custom strategies he believes that that alpha capture can revitalize single manager hedge funds. Not all alpha capture strategies are made equal though and one of the biggest problems he is trying to solve is convincing managers and their LPs that alpha capture can be done without harming the returns of the manager. Read the white paper: https://www.centerbook.com/ACPaper Become a CenterBook Partners partner fund: https://www.centerbook.com/contributors Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:40 Fiscal.ai 01:34 Single Manager & Tiger Cub Origins 02:45 Fundamental Long Short Equity Under Pressure 07:21 History of Alpha Capture 09:07 Responsible Alpha Capture 16:40 Fiscal.ai 17:58 Why Don’t Managers Adapt to Allocator Demands? 26:48 CenterBook's Current Alpha Capture Strategy 33:14 How Do You Manage External Partners? 35:38 Reactions From LPs at Partner Funds 39:46 Types of Allocators Are Interested in Alpha Capture? 41:53 Types of Managers Partnering with CenterBook 43:04 Is Alpha Theory a Requirement? 46:03 Scale Limits for CenterBook 48:39 Do Most Managers Have Skill? 53:15 Active Extension: The Future of Active Management? 01:03:13 Timeline for Single Manager Active Extensions

This Other People’s Money episode is brought you by Fiscal.ai. Sign up for a 2-week free trial and get 15% off any paid tier at: http://fiscal.ai/mm Corey Hoffstein, CEO and CIO of Newfound Research and co-founder and PM of Return Stacked ETFs, joins OPM to discuss his journey in the investment management business. He argues that beating the market is a commoditized value proposition and that investment managers need to solve other problems for their clients to attract assets. He also discusses his experience licensing research to other asset managers, his belief that distribution is the key question of success in the asset management business, and how quantitative research and other forms of content like podcasts and social media can help build brand awareness. Follow Corey on X: https://x.com/choffstein Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:27 Fiscal AI 01:16 The Difference Between Quant and Systematic Investing 03:18 Can Market Bubbles Be Measured? 05:05 Is Market Timing a Good Bet? 09:31 Evolving Risk Premia and Market Inefficiencies 16:41 Fiscal AI 18:20 Beginnings in Investment Management 23:04 Licensing Indexes to Other Managers 27:35 Providing Education Materials 31:26 Moving Into Asset Management 36:47 Evolving into Current Strategies 40:06 Thinking About the Investment Product Wrapper 43:11 Asset Management vs Investment Management 47:27 Solving Behavioral Finance Problems and Market Problems 51:28 Different Ways of Using Leverage 52:41 Knowing Your Client Base Isn’t Institutional 55:45 Content Creation and Brand Building 59:27 Growing an Audience: What Financial Content Goes Viral? 01:04:27 Dealing with Compliance and Education 01:07:22 How To Read and Interpret Quantitative Research as a Normie 01:12:22 How Is AI Being Used by Quants? 01:15:48 Conclusion

This Other People’s Money episode is brought to you by CAIA.nxt. Learn more about their alternatives education courses for investment advisors and get 10% off with code MMTEN: https://caia.org/content/welcome-monetary-matters-and-other-peoples-money-listeners Anatoly Crachilov, CEO and Co-Founder of Nickel Digital Asset Management, joins Other People’s Money to discuss why crypto is the perfect asset class for the multi-manager pod shop model. He also explains how Nickel is taking a “West Berlin” approach to partnering with external traders compared to the “East Berlin” approach of many traditional pod shops where non-competes and strict control of IP is the norm. He also discusses why 2025 has been a difficult year for crypto traders, how their team is managing the choppy markets, and how scaled up pods and incubation stage pods managed the extreme volatility in October. Follow Anatoly Crachilov on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anatoly-crachilov/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:38 CAIA.nxt 01:24 Multi-Manager Origin Story 03:12 No Central Book or Alpha Capture 04:32 Expanding Number of Pods 06:15 Technology Enabled Growth 10:09 Onboarding a New Pod 14:38 Benefits of Crypto's Infinite Divisibility 15:58 CAIA.nxt 16:54 Determining the Scalability of Strategies 18:03 Minimum & Maximum Pod Sizes at Scale 18:33 Measuring Risk Adjusted Returns 20:34 Pod Compensation and Fund Level Fees 24:43 Winning the War for Talent 29:29 Pods Can Be Independent Prop Shops and Single Managers 35:03 Demand for Crypto Multi-Manager Funds 39:02 Reducing Risk in Crypto with 3rd Party Settlement & Custodians 46:08 Crypto Still Has Low Liquidity 49:41 The Cost of Poor Trade Execution in Crypto 53:16 Current Environment for Crypto 58:22 Risk Management Adjustments in a Choppy Year 01:02:04 Different Testing Environments for New Pods 01:06:30 What Happens When a Scaled Pod Has a Drawdown? 01:09:35 Conclusion

Derek Pilecki’s hedge fund Gator Capital has outperformed the S&P 500, compounding at over 22% since inception while focusing exclusively on financial sector stocks. In this interview Derek discusses why he thinks recent concern in the financial sector is overblown, how he has grown his firm’s assets to over $300m, and why he believes that good performance is simply not enough to grow a successful hedge fund. Derek also discusses how he manages his mutual fund alongside his hedge fund and why he doesn’t see the vehicles as competing but serving two separate investor bases. Sign up for Gator Capital's distribution list: https://www.gatorcapital.com/ Follow Derek on X: https://x.com/gatorcapital Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

This is a special bonus episode of OPM with David Orr. In my first conversation with David, we only discussed his hedge fund that has crushed the S&P 500 since its inception in 2021. In addition to his hedge fund, he also runs the Militia Long/Short Equity ETF ($ORR) which since its inception in January 2025 has also beaten the S&P 500 running a similar but still distinct long/short strategy from the one he employs at his hedge fund. We discuss his unorthodox decision to launch the ETF when the hedge fund was going so well, how he is managing the different liquidity needs, his dual fiduciary duties, differing compliance realities, and the increased transparency of the ETF wrapper. Follow David Orr on X: https://x.com/orrdavid Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

This is a special previously unaired bonus episode of OPM with one of my most popular guests @hfreflection where we dive into the important topic of hedge fund compensation, with a particular focus on analysts and the investment team. How a hedge fund founder structures compensation and incentives for the investment team has a huge impact on the way investment research gets done. It can influence whether ideas are shared or hoarded and whether preventing mistakes is rewarded equally with finding new ideas. We also discuss when analysts should get points and how founders should deal with the reality that all analysts have different ideas about what they want their career path to look like. Follow HF Reflections on X: https://x.com/hfreflection Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

This Other People’s Money episode is brought to you by VanEck. Learn more about the VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH): http://vaneck.com/SMHMax Learn more about the VanEck Fabless Semiconductor ETF (SMHX): http://vaneck.com/SMHXMax Jeremy Boynton and Zach Lindquist, managing partners at Pure Crypto, have built one of the best performing crypto fund of funds since their inception 2018. In this interview they discuss their view that the crypto market structure is being changed by ETFs and crypto treasury companies, how they think about manager selection, the subtle differences between crypto VCs and crypto hedge funds, and why they are eschewing new entrants into the crypto fund space in favor of OGs who have managed capital and survived multiple market cycles. They also explain why they are volatility agnostic and prefer to take on crypto market beta rather than invest in market neutral and multi-manager crypto funds. Follow Zach Lindquist on X: https://x.com/PureCryptoLP Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod An investment in the VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH) and VanEck Fabless Semiconductor ETF (SMHX) may be subject to risks which include, among others, risks related to investing in the semiconductor industry, special risk considerations of investing in Taiwanese issuers, equity securities, small-, medium and large-capitalization companies, foreign securities, emerging market issuers, foreign currency, depositary receipts, issuer-specific changes, market, operational, index tracking, authorized participant concentration, new fund, no guarantee of active trading market, trading issues, passive management, fund shares trading, premium/discount and liquidity of fund shares, non-diversified, and index-related concentration risks, all of which may adversely affect the Fund. Small, medium and large-capitalization companies may be subject to elevated risks. Emerging market issuers and foreign securities may be subject to securities markets, political and economic, investment and repatriation restrictions, different rules and regulations, less publicly available financial information, foreign currency and exchange rates, operational and settlement, and corporate and securities laws risks. Investing involves substantial risk and high volatility, including possible loss of principal. An investor should consider the investment objective, risks, charges and expenses of a Fund carefully before investing. To obtain a prospectus and summary prospectus, which contain this and other information, call 800.826.2333 or visit vaneck.com. Please read the prospectus and summary prospectus carefully before investing. © Van Eck Securities Corporation, Distributor, a wholly owned subsidiary of Van Eck Associates Corporation

This Other People’s Money episode is brought to you by VanEck. Learn more about the VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH): http://vaneck.com/SMHMax Learn more about the VanEck Fabless Semiconductor ETF (SMHX): http://vaneck.com/SMHXMax Since launching Militia Capital in 2021, David Orr has crushed the S&P 500 and is up over 500% net of fees. In fact, during this period, he’s one of few managers to have set the S&P 500 as the hurdle rate for the fund to earn performance fees. In this interview Orr discusses Militia Capital’s growth from $3m to over $160m today, the expansion of the strategy to include two additional external portfolio managers, and why he thinks most hedge fund managers have social media and compliance all wrong. He also discusses his investment philosophy and belief that most “value trap” investors and “story stock” investors don’t know the first thing about real investing. Follow David Orr on X: https://x.com/orrdavid Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod An investment in the VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH) and VanEck Fabless Semiconductor ETF (SMHX) may be subject to risks which include, among others, risks related to investing in the semiconductor industry, special risk considerations of investing in Taiwanese issuers, equity securities, small-, medium and large-capitalization companies, foreign securities, emerging market issuers, foreign currency, depositary receipts, issuer-specific changes, market, operational, index tracking, authorized participant concentration, new fund, no guarantee of active trading market, trading issues, passive management, fund shares trading, premium/discount and liquidity of fund shares, non-diversified, and index-related concentration risks, all of which may adversely affect the Fund. Small, medium and large-capitalization companies may be subject to elevated risks. Emerging market issuers and foreign securities may be subject to securities markets, political and economic, investment and repatriation restrictions, different rules and regulations, less publicly available financial information, foreign currency and exchange rates, operational and settlement, and corporate and securities laws risks. Investing involves substantial risk and high volatility, including possible loss of principal. An investor should consider the investment objective, risks, charges and expenses of a Fund carefully before investing. To obtain a prospectus and summary prospectus, which contain this and other information, call 800.826.2333 or visit vaneck.com. Please read the prospectus and summary prospectus carefully before investing. © Van Eck Securities Corporation, Distributor, a wholly owned subsidiary of Van Eck Associates Corporation Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:31 $SMH & SMHX 01:21 Militia Capital’s Growth Into a Multi-Manager 04:57 Twitter & Social Media 07:33 Marketing & 506(c) Hedge Funds 11:11 Benchmarking to the S&P 500 15:00 Comparing to Large Multi-Manager Funds 17:11 VanEck Mid-Roll 18:06 Risk Managing Other PMs & Collaboration 20:06 David’s Investing Philosophy 27:36 Investors Who Don’t Know Anything 38:51 Market timing & the Current Environment 45:40 Trading Macro 48:14 Hunting For New Portfolio Managers 51:32 David’s Favorite Accounts on Twitter 54:04 Rethinking Compliance 57:52 Outro

This episode is brought to you by Fundamental Edge. Learn more about their new AI Academy for buyside professionals: https://www.fundamentedge.com/ai-academy Raj Shah and Cullen Rose of Stoic Point Capital Management join OPM to explore their winding path to scale and how adapting to the opportunities from the SPAC boom of 2021 brought them new investors and strategies. They also discuss how AI has drastically changed their investing process and their cost structure, the importance of negotiating and changing service providers, and why hedge fund marketing is an active endeavor. Follow Stoic Point Capital Management on X: https://x.com/stoic_point Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

Learn more about the new AI Academy from Fundamental Edge: https://www.fundamentedge.com/ai-academy There’s no shortage of speculation about how AI will reshape the workforce, but one area where no speculation is needed is the investment industry. AI is already rapidly disrupting the way investment professionals conduct fundamental equity research and shifting the competitive landscape for fund managers and talent alike. In this interview with Brett Caughran, founder of buyside training academy Fundamental Edge, and David Plon, co-founder and CEO of AI powered investment research platform Portrait Analytics join OPM to discuss the areas of the investment process where AI can already make an impact, the pitfalls and weaknesses of AI in its current state, how this is changing the job description for both portfolio managers and analysts, and the surprising reality that the first movers of AI adoption Follow Brett Caughran on X: https://x.com/FundamentEdge Follow David Plon on X: https://x.com/Dplon88 Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:25 The Rapid Pace of AI Advancements 07:15 How to Start Adding AI to Your Process 15:00 Thesis Monitoring and the Next Frontiers of AI Investment Research 18:45 Current Level of AI Adoption and First Movers in the Hedge Fund World 23:19 Importance of Clearly Defining Your Investment Process Before Adding AI 26:35 The Role of Specialty Investment Tools 29:49 Custom vs Off-The-Shelf Solutions 38:16 Thoughtful AI Prompting is Key 44:01 Biggest AI Pitfalls to Avoid 48:52 How Has AI Shifted the Competitive Landscape? 54:43 AI Investing Bootcamp

This episode is brought to you by Fundamental Edge, the leaders in buyside analyst training. Reserve your spot in their new AI Academy today: https://www.fundamentedge.com/ai-academy In the online community of FinTwit it is extremely common for hedge funders to have anonymous profiles because of strict regulations, but not all these anonymous profiles are made equal. @hfreflection is one of the most insightful anonymous members of the FinTwit community, especially when it comes to the business and industry of hedge funds. In this interview (while maintaining anonymity) HF reveals key aspects of his path to success and shares the insights he picked up on his journey from analyst to eventually launching his own firm after a long stint at a multi-billion dollar long/short equity manager. He touches on the hard decisions people face at different stages, whether you are a young professional trying to break into the industry, a mid-career analyst trying to find the right seat, or a seasoned professional deciding whether staying put or launching your own fund is the right path forward. Follow HF Reflections on X: https://x.com/hfreflection Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

Tor Svelland, CIO and Founder of Svelland Capital, has annualized over 18.5% net of fees since inception in 2017 in their strategy that trades a combination of commodity futures, commodity linked equities, freight derivatives, energy transition linked companies, and electricity producers. Svelland joins Other People’s Money to discuss why he believes new market participants and structural undersupply have made the current environment for commodities trading so exciting. He also discusses how he’s grown his business from personal capital to almost $1 billion in AUM with investors all over the globe. Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 04:09 Trafigura & Goldman Sachs as Commodities Trading Talent Hubs 06:38 Launching Svelland Capital with Personal Capital 09:03 The First Major Hurdles: 3 Years & $100m in AUM 10:56 ESG and the Commodity Market Backdrop 15:59 Underinvestment & Undersupply in Shipping & Commodities 20:41 Trading Global Supply Chains Shifts 23:44 Trade Expression & Commodities Portfolio Construction 29:06 The Effects of New Commodity Market Participants 36:06 TTF Gas Markets & Price Spike Potential 39:38 Multiple PMs & The Benefits of Taking Risk 42:05 Thinking Internationally & Advice for Young Commodities Traders 45:56 International Investor Interest in Commodities 48:00 Managing AUM Growth & Capacity Constraints

Donald Zilkha, founder of Zilkha Investments joins Other People’s Money to discuss how his deep-rooted DNA in banking and deal making has evolved into an investment strategy focused on deep research and engagement with management to affect change without upsetting the apple cart. He discusses how this strategy has evolved from single name SPVs to the commingled strategy he has today, case studies like Nathan’s Famous Hot Dogs, and why this classical style resonates with investors. Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:34 The Birth of Modern Banking in the Middle East 10:27 Evolution from Venture, to SPVs, to Drawdown, to Vanilla Equity 19:09 Engagement vs. Activism 27:17 Nathan's Famous Hot Dogs Case Study 33:05 Take Private Opportunities 35:55 Investing in a "Classical" Style 38:43 Talking About Process Instead of Positions 45:02 Value Investing in Tech and Old-Line Businesses 50:05 Team Continuity & Incentives 54:18 Marketing After 10+ Years

David Steinberg, founder and CIO of Marlowe Partners joins Other People’s Money to discuss why he believes the operational and capital raising side of the investment business is the most important factor in determining success. He also discusses how he is navigating the capital raising process with a focus on weeding out investors who are not a fit for his concentrated long-term investing style, how that long-term style affects his ability to use AI in the research process, and why it is important not to be too innovative with your investment terms. David would also like to highlight the importance of high quality service providers and has shared three service providers he would highly recommend to other investment professionals. For accounting services David uses: https://rsmus.com For outsourced compliance services David uses: https://www.salusgrc.com For legal services David uses: https://www.akingump.com/en Follow David on Twitter: https://x.com/PeterLakeSounds Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod 00:00 Intro 00:30 The Most Important Aspect of Investing 10:16 The Market for Concentrated Investing 13:47 Staying in the Game 17:45 Non-Standard Structures Are a Risk 19:41 New Structures for Individual Investors 27:11 Communicating Investing Process 34:28 Using AI to Cut Investment Research Costs 49:04 The Mission of $1B to $100B

This Other People’s Money episode is brought to you by VanEck. Learn more about the VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH): http://vaneck.com/SMHMax Learn more about the VanEck Fabless Semiconductor ETF (SMHX): http://vaneck.com/SMHXMax Jon Caplis, CEO and founder at PivotalPath joins Other People’s Money to discuss how underreporting of data by the top tier of hedge funds is skewing the data that institutional investors use to make allocation decisions, resulting in undeservedly poor perception of the asset class, and significant underinvestment from institutional investors relying on allocation models. He argues that the top firms’ absence from most data sets has dragged industry wide return metrics down by approximately 400 basis points annually. Caplis also discusses how PivotalPath is combatting this data issue, the performance of hedge funds in 2025, and the mistakes many hedge funds make in communicating with institutional LPs that make up PivotalPath’s client base. Learn more about PivotalPath at https://www.pivotalpath.com/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod An investment in the VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH) and VanEck Fabless Semiconductor ETF (SMHX) may be subject to risks which include, among others, risks related to investing in the semiconductor industry, special risk considerations of investing in Taiwanese issuers, equity securities, small-, medium and large-capitalization companies, foreign securities, emerging market issuers, foreign currency, depositary receipts, issuer-specific changes, market, operational, index tracking, authorized participant concentration, new fund, no guarantee of active trading market, trading issues, passive management, fund shares trading, premium/discount and liquidity of fund shares, non-diversified, and index-related concentration risks, all of which may adversely affect the Fund. Small, medium and large-capitalization companies may be subject to elevated risks. Emerging market issuers and foreign securities may be subject to securities markets, political and economic, investment and repatriation restrictions, different rules and regulations, less publicly available financial information, foreign currency and exchange rates, operational and settlement, and corporate and securities laws risks. Investing involves substantial risk and high volatility, including possible loss of principal. An investor should consider the investment objective, risks, charges and expenses of a Fund carefully before investing. To obtain a prospectus and summary prospectus, which contain this and other information, call 800.826.2333 or visit  vaneck.com. Please read the prospectus and summary prospectus carefully before investing. © Van Eck Securities Corporation, Distributor, a wholly owned subsidiary of Van Eck Associates Corporation

This Other People’s Money episode is brought to you by VanEck. Learn more about the VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH): http://vaneck.com/SMHMax Learn more about the VanEck Fabless Semiconductor ETF (SMHX): vaneck.com/SMHXMAx Warren Pies, strategist and co-founder at 3Fourteen Research joins Other People’s Money to discuss how the market and economy are transitioning from a deflation to a debasement mindset. He explains why he’s bullish equities, expecting continued disinflation despite his longer-term debasement view, and expecting the Fed to cut 3 times before the end of the year while the economy avoids recession. Pies also looks back on his launching his first year as an ETF fund manager. Follow Warren on X: https://x.com/WarrenPies Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod An investment in the VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH) and VanEck Fabless Semiconductor ETF (SMHX) may be subject to risks which include, among others, risks related to investing in the semiconductor industry, special risk considerations of investing in Taiwanese issuers, equity securities, small-, medium and large-capitalization companies, foreign securities, emerging market issuers, foreign currency, depositary receipts, issuer-specific changes, market, operational, index tracking, authorized participant concentration, new fund, no guarantee of active trading market, trading issues, passive management, fund shares trading, premium/discount and liquidity of fund shares, non-diversified, and index-related concentration risks, all of which may adversely affect the Fund. Small, medium and large-capitalization companies may be subject to elevated risks. Emerging market issuers and foreign securities may be subject to securities markets, political and economic, investment and repatriation restrictions, different rules and regulations, less publicly available financial information, foreign currency and exchange rates, operational and settlement, and corporate and securities laws risks. Investing involves substantial risk and high volatility, including possible loss of principal. An investor should consider the investment objective, risks, charges and expenses of a Fund carefully before investing. To obtain a prospectus and summary prospectus, which contain this and other information, call 800.826.2333 or visit vaneck.com. Please read the prospectus and summary prospectus carefully before investing. © Van Eck Securities Corporation, Distributor, a wholly owned subsidiary of Van Eck Associates Corporation

Zach Levitt, CIO and Founder of Sixth Turn Capital and Opus One Asset Management joins Other People’s Money to discuss how he is standing up multi-manager platforms at just 25 years old by focusing on niche capacity constrained managers. Levitt discusses the benefits of combining uncorrelated capacity constrained strategies in a multi-manager platform, his unconventional path to founding a multi-manager platform, how mentorship has helped accelerate his growth, and how he goes about attracting talented investors to his platform. Follow Zach on X: https://x.com/derivative_bro Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:48 Skipping the Analyst Track and Founding a Hedge Fund at 25 07:14 Many Great Track Records Indicate Nefarious Information Was Traded On 09:42 What Does a Good Capacity Constrained Manager Look Like? 13:38 What Level of Correlation is "Uncorrelated" 18:20 What Level of Capacity is "Capacity Constrained"? 21:30 Mentorship Through Podcasts & Cold Outreach 26:13 Convincing Managers To Join Your Platform as a 25 Year Old 28:46 Investor Interest in SMAs vs Commingled Funds 35:25 Battling Startup Costs 39:06 Selling Talented Investors on Your Success Story 43:39 Risk Management and Cutting Portfolio Managers 47:38 Marketing "Hypothetical" Track Records 52:32 Next Stages of Growth 54:20 Assessing the Capacity Limits 57:17 Can PA Traders Become PMs?

Val Zlatev, Portfolio Manager and Senior Partner at hard tech specialist hedge fund Analog Century Capital Management joins Other People’s Money to discuss what he thinks investors still fail to appreciate about the secular growth of AI and semiconductors. He also discusses why DeepSeek was so misunderstood, other aspects of the AI supply chain, the state of the analog chip cycle, running long/short and market neutral strategies and garnering interest from the large multi-manager platforms. Learn More About Analog Century Capital Management: https://www.analogcm.com/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:15 What is Hard Tech? 02:41 The Evolution of the Hard Tech Sector From the 90s to Now 05:04 Investors Are Underweight Hard Tech 11:09 The Massive Impact of the End of Moore's Law 16:59 New Investment in Semiconductor Capacity 18:08 Why AI Should Be Compared to Cloud, Not Fiber 22:55 What Investors Got Wrong About DeepSeek 25:41 The US Government's Impact on AI & Chips 33:04 The Chinese Government’s Involvement in AI & Chips 35:13 Dominant Players in Chinese Semiconductor Market 39:12 The AI Supply Chain Beyond Semiconductors 43:53 Analog Semiconductors & Power Management 49:55 Winners, Losers, and Fakers in AI 57:03 Research Process for Hard Tech 01:01:25 Dispersion in Hard Tech Returns 01:03:31 Trading and Portfolio Construction at Analog Century 01:08:13 Market Neutral & Garnering Interest From Multi-Manager Platforms 01:12:20 Market Neutral vs Long/Short Investors 01:14:51 The Value of Partners and Team Continuity 01:16:42 Conclusion

Bob Robotti, legendary value investor and President and CIO of Robotti and Company Advisors, is one of a very select group of investors with a 30+ year track record of S&P 500 outperformance. Here he joins Other People’s Money to discuss long-term value investing, why he likes to invest in companies perceived to be facing headwinds, and his view that American based industrial companies are competitively advantaged for reasons completely unaffected by trade policy. He also discusses how he operates both an advisory business and a broker dealer business and how the broker dealer has served as a starting point for many other great value investors. Learn More About Robotti Advisors: https://advisors.robotti.com Follow Bob Robotti on X: https://x.com/BobRobotti Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:27 Patient Capital 08:05 Investing in Companies with Headwinds 12:13 Building Products Businesses 16:08 North American Industrial Advantage 22:41 Industries Returning to the USA 27:18 Valuing Businesses on Cost of Replacement 30:56 The Links Between Lumber, Building Products, and Housing 33:24 Engaging With Management in Long-term Positions 39:04 Trading Around Long-Term Positions 47:57 Buying Stocks After They've Gone Up 52:56 Trading Against Each Other 55:01 Having a Broker Dealer and Advisory Business 59:15 Jumping From the Sell Side to the Buy Side 01:04:08 Capital Churn 01:06:03 All US Equity Investors Should Compare Themselves to the S&P 500

The first 4 months of 2025 have been highly volatile hurting both equity and fixed income investors alike, but how has the “smart money” faired in this environment? Jack and Max breakdown the performance of hedge funds in Q1 and April of 2025 with data from Citco Fund Services and HFRI. They also discuss the recent moves by Yale and Harvard to sell some of their private equity stakes and other indicators that might signal trouble ahead for PE as an asset class. Follow Jack on X: https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M  Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi  YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

Matt Jozoff, co-CEO, Portfolio Manager, and Head of Macro Research at Trevally Capital joins Other People’s Money, to discuss how trends like the growth in the Ginnie Mae market, low credit borrowers and non-bank originators, and other factors are affecting mortgage prepayments and creating opportunities in the mortgage market for firms like Trevally Capital. He also discusses how Trevally Capital is looking to extract alpha from these opportunities and build a world-class institutional asset manager with the backing of partners like The Raptor Group and Seaport Global Securities. Learn more about Trevally Capital: https://www.trevallycapital.com/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M  Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi  YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:33 Post-Tariff Fixed Income Market Update 06:49 Recent Mortgage Market Developments 10:45 Ginnie Mae Mortgages 12:04 Not Calling For Another Mortgage Crisis 13:42 Nobody Can Afford Refinancing 17:24 Trump Admin and Fannie & Freddie 21:08 Factors Affecting Mortgage Prepayments 28:27 Day one Institutional Quality 34:53 Prepayments Part II 39:04 Importance of Seed Investors like Raptor & Seaport Global 42:07 Hedge Fund Seed Investing is Venture Capital 43:55 Peers & Competitors in the Mortgage Market 49:36 Physics & Cincinnati Connection

Måns Levin, CEO and co-founder of Ridge Capital, joins Other People’s Money, to discuss why they believe the Nordic high yield credit market provides unique opportunities for double-digit returns and insolation from tariff and trade war risks. Levin discusses the exceptional start Ridge Capital has had, both in terms of performance and asset raising, the specific features and composition of the Nordic high yield market that they find most attractive, and the flexibility in strategies required to take full advantage of the opportunities they see. Follow Ridge Capital on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ridgecap/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod #credit #creditmarket #fixedincome #bonds #nordic #sweden #norway #denmark #finland #stocks #economics #economy #stockmarket #investing #hedgefunds #trading #wallstreet #ridgecapital #finance