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Outside the Bell Curve
by Heather Hiccups
For the forever curious and the ones chasing wild ideas. Outside the Bell Curve is a podcast for those who just can’t seem to color inside the lines. I’m Heather, and each week I chat with friends, creatives, and fascinating humans I meet on the road — folks with cool jobs, wild stories, and a habit of choosing the unexpected. From bold pivots to one-way tickets, from a small town in Texas to a residency at the Kennedy Center, or a drive from the UK to Mongolia, I’m full of questions for the people who’ve lived it. Let’s explore what it looks like to live outside the bell curve.
Episodes
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🎃 Halloween Throwback: Ghost Hunting 101 with Spirit Chasers UK (Apparitions, EMF & Evidence)
👻 FROM THE VAULT: Spooky season is here, so we’re bringing back one of my favourite conversations ever. If you missed it the first time, grab a blanket and maybe leave a light on. A brand-new episode drops Oct 21. In the meantime, the spirits would like a word. Sometimes ghosts just need a…
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From Wall Street to Every Country on Earth: Why Travel Advisors Are Booming | Jacey Jones
From the vault: one of my favorite conversations ever, dusted off and too good not to share again. Jacey Jones was picking stocks at Goldman Sachs when she noticed computers were getting better at her job than people. She left. After working at a tech startup, she's now the co-founder and CEO of...
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Not Cute to Panic: The Whimsical Art of Going Full-Time Comedian | Zubi Ahmed
Zubi Ahmed was told by her teachers not to bother with a creative career because "nobody's gonna watch you." Now she's performing stand-up for hundreds of people in New York City, and she recently turned the loss of her day job into an opportunity to go all in on comedy. Queen Zubi (I'm dubbing…
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Melbourne to Morocco to Andorra: Travel Guiding and Cloud Watching with My Cool Aussie Pal, Patrick Davis
One of our favorites from the archive, back in the feed for anyone who missed it the first time. ~Sometimes you're on a hike in Andorra and just wanna plop down to ask your new friend some questions, so let me introduce you to this mountain valley chat~ What happens when you swap an office job…
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Do The Scary Thing: A Pro Soccer Player's Road from US to Valencia & Puerto Rico | Danielle Marcano
Danielle Marcano didn't just chase a childhood dream, she stepped away from it for two years, went back to school for a master's in sports psychology, and then rebuilt herself into a professional soccer player good enough to sign in one of the best leagues in the world. Pro La Liga and Puerto…
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Quit His Job & Created His Own Opportunities: Your Sign If You Wanna Reinvent Yourself | Lamar Dawson
Lamar Dawson — aka the Dirty King of Pop — has built a career out of reinventing himself more than once. He started with a master's in higher education, a job at Georgetown, and a dream of working in student affairs. He hit refresh, moved into PR, and eventually quit that stable job (giving back...
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Outside the Bell Curve is back! Season 2 Trailer
This year was filled with countless times meeting incredible people who amazed me at every turn. Professional soccer/futbol player? Got that. Headlining comedian? Check. TikTok star by morning and VP at a major company by day? Yes and Yes. Get ready to feel inspired, ready to say "ef the…
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God, Sex & Rich People… Purity Ring to NYC with Mattie Jo
We’ve all been there, trying to outgrow the version of ourselves we were raised to be. The “good girl,” the rule follower, the one who doesn’t question anything… until suddenly you do. Mattie Jo Cowsert is a pastor’s kid turned shameless oversharer, actor, author of God, Sex & Rich People, and...
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Delusional Positivity, Ridiculous Job Apps & the Art of Just Starting — with Vandie
Vandie is bold and not to mention, savvy. She went from tech to essentially the “fun-planer” at a dream company, has lived in 26 cities, co-founded a space for connection after college, and chose to be child-free in a very permanent way. We talk about “delusional positivity,” radical self-trust,...
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Ghost Hunting 101 with Spirit Chasers: Apparitions, EMF & Evidence. A Halloween Special
What happens when the ghosts get to know you? This Halloween, we’re with Spirit Chasers UK, the nonprofit ghost-hunting team making the paranormal accessible, affordable, and full of heart. David and Marie share their wildest encounters: a singing child, flying tables, a haunted cottage that sent...
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No Plan B: Eric Jackson on Breaking Into Sports Journalism and the Business of Sports
Eric Jackson knows the game on and off the field. He’s an award-winning journalist and sports communications strategist, ate a hundred “no’s,” and still landed on his feet covering athletes from the NFL to the Olympics and artists from Ice Cube to Darius Rucker. He highlights the business of...
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Cliff Jumps, Ownership & One-Way Tickets: Santiago’s Leap to Mallorca, Spain
“We came to this world to live.” Meet Santiago Iglesias — an Argentine entrepreneur turned Mallorca adventure guide who left a 10-year accounting career to build a life of business ownership, cliff jumps, solar travel and navigating visas. He opened a hostel in Mar del Plata, Argentina, took the...
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Adventure Travel, Tech Startups & Every Country in the World — with Jacey Jones
Jacey Jones didn’t plan on becoming a founder — but today she runs two companies in the travel space: TripSuite, a tech startup streamlining the travel advisor industry, and Kamira Travel, a boutique agency specializing in luxury adventure. Jacey shares how she pivoted from Wall Street and…
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From Football Fields to Film Sets: Marcus Lorenzo Brandon on Chasing the Feeling
Marcus Lorenzo Brandon has worn a lot of hats — college football player, cybersecurity entrepreneur, actor on Mayor of Kingstown — but through it all, the art has always come first. Marcus shares what it’s really like to chase acting while balancing a full-time career, why theater still has his...
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The Upside of Redundancy: Akhil Takes on Mongol Rally 2025
Redundancy → reinvention → 10,000 miles on the road. I bumped into a friend from Australia in Andorra of all places; as I’ve said before, that place is magic. Akhil is gearing up for the Mongol Rally 2025—~10,000 miles (≈16,000 km) of solo driving from Europe toward the far east of Kazakhstan,...
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Feminism, TikTok, Tradwives & Cultural Influences: CC Binx on Building Up the Matriarchy
TikTok political commentator, and host of The Stay at Home Feminist, CC Binx grew up everywhere from Africa to the Caribbean to the Middle East, and that global lens shaped how she sees society — as a set of constructs meant to be challenged. From her early career in nonprofits to TikTok to her...
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Melbourne to Morocco to Andorra — Patrick Davis on Guiding, Curiosity, and Cloud Watching
~Sometimes you're on a hike in Andorra and just wanna plop down to ask your new friend some questions, so let me introduce you to this small mountain valley chat~ What happens when you swap an office job for 70 days on a bus across Europe? Patrick Davis did just that — and fifteen years later…
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Dancing Across the World, Casting in NYC — Emily Paige’s Plot Twist
From a football coach’s daughter in Texas to a professional dancer in New York, Emily Paige has never exactly followed the script. From her years performing around the world, the pivot to casting and creative direction, and why asking for what you want is the real career hack, Emily is continuing...
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Outside the Bell Curve Trailer
For the forever curious, and the ones chasing wild ideas. Welcome to Outside the Bell Curve, a show for people who just can’t seem to color inside the lines. I’m Heather, and each week I chat with friends, creatives, and fascinating humans I meet on the road — folks with cool jobs, wild stories,...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
For the forever curious and the ones chasing wild ideas. Outside the Bell Curve is a podcast for those who just can’t seem to color inside the lines. I’m Heather, and each week I chat with friends, creatives, and fascinating humans I meet on the road — folks with cool jobs, wild stories, and a habit of choosing the unexpected. From bold pivots to one-way tickets, from a small town in Texas to a residency at the Kennedy Center, or a drive from the UK to Mongolia, I’m full of questions for the people who’ve lived it. Let’s explore what it looks like to live outside the bell curve.
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Heather Hiccups
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