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Palladium Podcast
by Palladium Magazine
The Palladium Podcast explores the future of governance and society.
Episodes
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Bonus: Why are we hosting the AI Conclave?
Palladium editors Wolf Tivy and Matt Ellison join Skinner Layne of Wild Studios. We discuss why Palladium and Wild Studios are hosting the AI Conclave in Spain this November. Learn more and join us: https://aiconclave.io The AI Conclave is a month-long pop-up campus for deep study of the biggest...
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Palladium Podcast 83: Tea Törmänen and Marco Visscher on Ecomodernism
Tea Törmänen and Marco Visscher join Ash Milton to discuss their recent article on how Finland's Greens chose nuclear energy and the differences between degrowth and ecomodernism. Recently, the Finnish Green Party has been leading the way among green movements in embracing nuclear energy. Tea and...
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Palladium Podcast 82: Jesse Velay-Vitow on the Geopolitics of Climate Change
Jesse Velay-Vitow joins Ash Milton to discuss how recent geopolitical realignments, energy crises, and migration patterns will shape the rest of the twenty-first century. Recent energy crises in Europe have helped to put nuclear energy back on a strong footing. But does that mean that powers like...
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Palladium Podcast 81: Dylan Levi King on East Asian Ecotheology
Dylan Levi King joins Wolf Tivy to discuss his featured 07 article on North Korean environmentalist policies, Japanese whaling, and the ecotheology that undergirds them. When Kim Il-Sung, the founder of North Korea, was fighting against Japanese occupiers, environmentalism and folk mythology were...
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Palladium Podcast 80: Ash Milton on the Wages of Revolution
Ash Milton joins Alexander Gelland to discuss his recent article on the life of the Abbé Henri Gregoire, a priest who was one of the leaders of the French Revolution. Henri Gregoire is a mysterious figure. Both revolutionary and clerical, universalistic and patriotic, he embodies many of the...
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Palladium Podcast 79: Eron Wolf on the Evolution of Computing
Eron Wolf joins Wolf Tivy to discuss alternative computing and the trappings of the streamlined user experience. As computing technology has become more widespread, the possibilities it offers the user have been narrowed. DRM restrictions, software bloat, and "appification" have made tinkering…
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Palladium Podcast 78: Mathis Bitton on the Gaulist State
Mathis Bitton joins Ash Milton to discuss his PALLADIUM 05 article on state centralization under Charles de Gaulle, the institutional history of French liberalism, and how a nation is built. France occupies a unique position among the Western powers. With public spending at two thirds of its GDP,...
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Palladium Podcast 77: Nicolas Villarreal on Socialist Cybernetics
Nicolas Villarreal joins Ash Milton to discuss his 05 article on how capitalist giants use socialist cybernetic planning, cybernetic methods of organizing supply chains, and their impact on the worker. Socialist Chile centrally planned its economy using Project Cybersyn, which used computerized...
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Palladium Podcast 76: Charles Smith on Posthuman Society
Charles Smith joins Alexander Gelland to talk about his 2020 article Confronting Modernity Means Overcoming Humanism, featured in PALLADIUM 05: Centralizing Society. The emancipating power of modernity has escaped our control and begun to resemble its opposite. But, if we have the vision to see…
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Palladium Podcast 75: Erik Hoel on Aristocratic Tutoring
Erik Hoel joins Ash Milton to discuss the current state of education, how it succeeded aristocratic tutoring, and what it means for progress. Up until the creation of mass schooling in the nineteenth century, tutelage was the most common form of education. Only aristocrats were able to afford…
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Palladium Podcast 74: Dylan Levi King on China’s Western Technocracy
Dylan Levi King joins Ash Milton to discuss his PALLADIUM 05 article on the cult of Jiao Yulu and China's convergence with Western technocracy. Local Communist Party cadres of the 60s and 70s experimented with economic reforms that seeded China’s economic success. Jiao Yulu was their model. Since...
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Palladium Podcast 73: Fin DePencier in Ukraine
Palladium Correspondent Fin DePencier joined Ash Milton from the northeastern city of Kharkiv, Ukraine, where he has been reporting on the ongoing Russian invasion. In addition to events on the ground, they discussed the wider implications of this war for Russia's sphere of influence, given its...
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Palladium Podcast 72: Richard Hanania on the U.S.-Russia Rivalry
Richard Hanania joins Ash Milton to talk about the U.S. confrontation with Russia and why it keeps enduring. With the U.S. keeping the door open for future NATO expansion in eastern Europe, Russia is continuing its own military build-up in the region. Most recently, tensions rose again over…
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Palladium Podcast 71: The Rise and Fall of the WASPs
Charles Coulombe joins Ash Milton to discuss the rise and fall of the WASP ruling class, which he also covered in Palladium 04. America's upper class went from disparate networks of families to a national elite in only a few generations. Then, they lost it all. Topics include the WASPs'…
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Palladium Podcast 70: Samo Burja on Rising Elites
Samo Burja joins Wolf Tivy to discuss his article in Palladium 04 on how rising classes become new elites. Historically, cycles of violence often break out at these moments, and yet elites are surprisingly good at surviving the resulting turnover. Are there better ways of integrating new players...
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Palladium Podcast 69: Avetis Muradyan on Crime and Frontiers
Avetis Muradyan joins Ash Milton in Brazil to discuss his article in Palladium 04 on why elites often rise from the criminal underworld. Other topics include observations on the Brazilian favelas, the importance of frontiers, and how one learns to be human. Palladium 04 is our latest quarterly...
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Palladium Podcast 68: Palladium 04
Palladium 04 is coming out in Winter 2021. The theme is Cultivating Elites. In this special episode, Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discussed why developing the consciousness and culture necessary to act as an elite is not an easy task, but one that requires institutional and personal investment. They...
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Palladium Podcast 67: The Digital State and its Psyche
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss why scientific management driven by digital technologies is becoming a dominant philosophy of governance in both China and the West. Other topics include why governments no longer want to mobilize their populations, whether chaos in society is really a bad thing,...
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Palladium Podcast 66: Geremie Barmé on the Lessons of Chinese Upheaval
Geremie Barmé joins Ash Milton to discuss his decades of experience in China and what previous upheavals in its leadership can teach us about the Xi era. Topics include his time studying alongside red guards at Chinese universities during the Cultural Revolution, Mao's return in modern Chinese...
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Digital Salon with Kevin Kelly: Vanishing Asia
Kevin Kelly joins the salon to discuss his new book and photographic travelogue: Vanishing Asia. Covering decades of Kevin's travels through 35 different countries across the Asian continent, this three-volume project records the traditions and pasts that are vanishing in the face of Asian...
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Palladium Podcast 65: The Centralized Society
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss the logic behind a centralized society and what life looks like inside it. Despite the psychological stresses of living in a world where everything is tracked and legible, societies around the world seem to move increasingly toward this model. What are its actual...
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Palladium Podcast 64: The Cultivation of Elites
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss what defines elites and how to cultivate them. Could it be that we do, in fact, only have an upper middle class today? Other topics include why money doesn't grant elite status, the reason why privilege is necessary for founding new institutions, and where people...
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Palladium Podcast 63: Chinese High Modernity
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss China's embrace of high modernity. Since the early 20th century, America has been the core of industrial civilization. Now, China is its most powerful rising periphery. But while China is currently ascending, it is already reaching important inflection points…
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Palladium Podcast 62: Michael Zargham on Society As a Complex System
Dr. Michael Zargham joins Wolf Tivy to discuss the dynamics of complex systems and what they can tell us about governing entire societies. Topics include how to think about local and global levels of action, why technological decisions are ultimately decisions about governance, and how to train...
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Palladium Podcast 61: Viren Murthy on Japan, China, and an Asian World Order
Dr. Viren Murthy joins Ash Milton to discuss the philosophy of world order in modern Japan and China. Topics include Pan-Asianism in the Japanese Empire, Miki Kiyoshi and the Kyoto School, and the thought of Chinese intellectuals Zhao Tingyang and Jiang Shigong. In the second half, they delve…
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Palladium Podcast 60: Jesse Velay-Vitow on the Future of Industrial Ecology
Jesse Velay-Vitow joins Ash Milton to discuss how we can reconcile industrial disruption, ecological stewardship, and the destiny of our species. Topics include how people have terraformed the Earth for millennia, whether our society's risk tolerance is unacceptably low, and why we need a strong...
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Palladium Podcast 59: Samo Burja on Long History
Samo Burja joins Wolf Tivy from Turkey to discuss why civilization is older than we thought. Samo's research into ruins like Göbekli Tepe inspired him to ask just how ancient civilization could really be. Topics include why national politics can end up yielding archaeological progress, whether…
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Palladium Podcast 58: Will Crypto Eat the World?
Charlie Smith joins Wolf Tivy to debate the real future of crypto. Its advocates promise radical transformation, but skeptics can point to a long list of scams and schemers. By examining the projects doing something real, we can better understand how crypto lets people coordinate in new ways. And...
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Palladium Podcast 57: The Moral Logic of Industrial Progress
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss the moral logic that drives industrial progress. The industrial revolution has been left halted across its most important domains. The 20th century's major advances were never fully developed. Returning to the path of industrial progress isn't just a policy…
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Palladium Podcast 56: Cults Move Civilization
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss cults as society's real foundation. Cults channel and condition the highest desires of human consciousness. The stories they tell about the world give meaning to every other aspect of our lives. Their authority can make demands for people to act in ways that no...
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Palladium Podcast 55: Liberalism Is the Liberality of Power
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss the Qing-era Chinese thinker Yan Fu and how to understand liberalism as a political project. Political systems exist downstream of a governing class that tries to create a certain kind of society. The liberal thought of John Stuart Mill and Adam Smith proposed...
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Palladium Podcast 54: Recuperating the GameStop Rebellion
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss the GameStop rebellion and why such outbursts almost always fail to bring about the changes they want. The reality is that power exists as a set of deals, and only those able to coordinate on the same level have the potential to rewrite them. Most movements end up...
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Palladium Podcast 53: The First Planet We're Terraforming Is Earth
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss the ultimate impact of human beings on Earth, and why neither green energy tweaks nor radical degrowth and return to nature are solutions. Instead, we need to envision what the Earth could be if we used our powers properly. We also need to reconcile our ethics of...
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Palladium Podcast 52: Mike Solana on Learning How to Change San Francisco
Mike Solana joins Wolf Tivy to discuss how San Francisco's governance works, how it has gone wrong, and what he thinks it would take to fix it. This episode is available in full to all listeners. Most of our podcasts are only available in full to Palladium Members. Members also get to participate...
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Palladium Podcast 51: Building a Developmentalist Class
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss what kind of economy we want to build, accumulative versus developmental orientations to industry, what classes are actually interested in investing in growth, and the necessity of a class of the state with interests beyond individual finance. The first half of…
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Palladium Podcast 50: The Posthumanist Hypothesis
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss Charlie Smith's recent piece on posthumanism and its implications. Other topics include the ways in which a complex society impacts our agency, why the idea of discourse is a mind virus, and thinking of humanity as a hypothesis for life. The first half of the show...
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Palladium Podcast 49: Humane Computing with Urbit
Wolf Tivy and Galen Wolfe-Pauly discuss what's wrong with social media and computing as we know it, as well as a new paradigm for humane computing. Galen is the CEO of Tlon, which runs Urbit, a personal computing server that is designed to give users personal control over their data on social...
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Palladium Podcast 48: The American Ideal of Progress
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss the concept of progress and whether it should continue to have a central role on American consciousness. Other topics included how far we can distinguish between types of progress and whether it makes any sense in describing the cycles of human civilizations. The...
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Digital Salon with Nicholas Christakis: Pandemics and Human Nature
Dr. Nicholas Christakis joins the salon to discuss his new book on COVID-19, extreme crisis, and what we can learn about the relationship between pandemics and human nature. Dr. Nicholas Christakis is the Sterling Professor of Social and Natural Science at Yale University. He is also Director of...
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Palladium Podcast 47: The Social Role of Billionaires
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss the role of billionaires, how to think about personal wealth, and the inherent tensions between capital and state. They also delve into whether this kind of power can be reconciled with the greater goals of a society. The first half of the show is available to our...
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Digital Salon with Roman Krznaric: Being a Good Ancestor
Roman Krznaric joins the salon from UK to discuss his book, intergenerational thinking, and how we can be good ancestors. His latest book is The Good Ancestor: A Radical Prescription for Long-Term Thinking, coming soon in the U.S. as of November 2020. Roman grew up in Sydney and Hong Kong. He...
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Palladium Podcast 46: Samo Burja on Why Regulating Online Speech Is Unavoidable
Samo Burja comes on the podcast to talk about when it's appropriate to regulate online speech and the proper relationship between state and media. Samo Burja is the founder of Bismarck Analysis, a political risk consulting firm. He is also a research fellow at the Long Now Foundation. You can...
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Palladium Podcast 45: It's Time to Kill Science
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss what we can learn from ancient Greek modernity, the collapse of the scientific mythos, and how both knowledge and statecraft can find new grounds for legitimacy. The weekly editor's podcast draws from discussions in the Palladium Community Salon. To participate in...
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Palladium Podcast 44: Breaking out of the Postmodern Condition
Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton discuss the postmodern condition, the failures of objectivity and neutrality, and how truth and meaning can survive. They also responded to a number of themes brought up in David Chapman's recent Twitter thread on these topics. The weekly editor's podcast draws from...
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Palladium Podcast 43: Mary Harrington on Relational Morality and the Mirror of Princes
Mary Harrington comes on the podcast with Wolf Tivy to build out a model of relational vs. transactional conceptions of justice and morality, and to discuss bringing back the mirror of princes literature. Mary Harrington is a columnist for the UK current affairs magazine UnHerd. She can be found…
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Digital Salon with Laura Deming: Self-Education and the State of Longevity
Laura Deming joins the salon to speak with Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton about education, where talent comes from, and the state of longevity research. Discussion topics included how to cultivate talent, where the most fruitful life extension research is happening, and whether intellectually…
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Digital Salon with Michael O'Sullivan: Dawn of the Multipolar World
Michael O'Sullivan joins the salon to speak with Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton about his book The Levelling: What's Next After Globalization, which includes discussion on the future multipolar world, Europe's increasingly cohesive development as a geopolitical pole, and how to fix economic inequality...
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Palladium Podcast 42: John Dulin on How War Drives Technological Progress
John Dulin comes on the podcast with Wolf Tivy to discuss recent advances in weapons systems, how war is one of the most important drivers of technological progress, and the role of both the public and private sectors in fundamental research and mass marketization. John Dulin is CEO and founder…
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Digital Salon with HSH Prince Michael: Small States and Long-Termist Elites
His Serene Highness Prince Michael of Liechtenstein speaks with Wolf Tivy and Ash Milton about his perspective on changes in international politics and economics—especially the importance of statecraft for small countries as the moral fashions and taboos of the great powers become more…
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Palladium Podcast 41: Byrne Hobart on the Economy After COVID
Byrne Hobart comes on the podcast to talk to Wolf Tivy about what parts of the American economy are real, the phenomenon of inequality increasing during crises, and the impact of COVID-19 on the real economy. Byrne Hobart works in the financial services industry and writes one of the top...
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