Peace is Power

In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Satish Kumar, a lifelong peace activist, former Jain monk, and environmental thinker. Satish shares powerful personal stories from his 8,000-mile peace pilgrimage, including his decision to travel without money as an act of radical trust. Drawing on the teachings of Mahatma Gandhi and Vinoba Bhave, he reflects on the idea that true power lies not in force or weapons, but in love, nonviolence, and human connection. The conversation moves fluidly between global issues and personal responsibility, touching on political division, conflict, and environmental challenges. Satish highlights that while peace begins within, it must be carried outward through action, communication, and collective effort.Key Takeaways:Peace Is a Form of Power, Not Weakness Nonviolence and love can mobilize entire populations and create lasting change, as seen in movements led by Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. Trust Creates Connection Satish’s journey without money demonstrated that trust often generates kindness in return. Human beings are more connected than divided. Inner and Outer Peace Must Work Together Personal transformation and societal change are interdependent. You cannot build a peaceful world without cultivating peace within. Building a Peace Movement Requires Action Satish outlines four steps: be the change, communicate effectively, organize collectively, and remain patient with results. Peace Includes Our Relationship with Nature True peace extends beyond human relationships. A sustainable future depends on recognizing that humans and nature are not separate.Timestamps: (00:00) Trust as the foundation of peace. Satish introduces the idea that peace comes from trust and shared humanity. (02:00) Gandhi and the power of nonviolence. Historical examples of peaceful resistance that have shaped nations. (06:30) Addressing modern political division. How opposing sides can move toward peace in polarized societies. (11:00) Walking the world without money. A radical experiment in trust and human kindness. (16:40) How to begin practicing trust and courage. Building inner strength through daily habits. (23:40) Building and organizing peace movements. Practical steps for creating large-scale change. (33:00) The “peace tea” story. A small act of kindness with a global ripple effect. (35:00) Peace and environmental responsibility. Why peace must include harmony with nature. (41:00) Inner vs outer transformation. Why are they necessary and inseparable? Guest Bio: Satish Kumar is an acclaimed activist, author, and speaker known for his lifelong commitment to peace, nuclear disarmament, and ecological sustainability. He is widely recognized for his extraordinary 8,000-mile peace walk across the world and for his long-standing role as editor emeritus of Resurgence & Ecologist magazine. Over the years, Satish has been a Jain monk, pacifist, and advocate for nuclear disarmament. He is also the founder and Director of Programmes at Schumacher College, the internationally respected center for ecological studies. One of his most remarkable achievements was completing, alongside his companion E. P. Menon, an 8,000-mile peace pilgrimage that began in New Delhi in 1962 and continued over two and a half years through Moscow, Paris, London, and Washington, D.C.—the capitals of the world’s earliest nuclear powers.  Throughout his work, Satish has consistently championed the belief that reverence for nature should be at the center of every political and social conversation. This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at www.euphrates.org. Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. This is your invitation. This is your moment. Learn more at https://peaceispower.org

Peace Is Power is a podcast hosted by former CIA officer and peacebuilder Janessa Gans Wilder. After serving 21 months in Iraq during the war, Janessa began asking a different question: What if real power is not force, domination, or control, but connection, courage, and the protection of life?Through intimate conversations with diplomats, artists, activists, veterans, and spiritual leaders, Peace Is Power explores how peace can transform our inner lives, our relationships, and the world we share.https://peaceispower.org https://euphrates.org  Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. This is your invitation. This is your moment. Learn more at https://peaceispower.org