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Politics with Michelle Grattan
by The Conversation
The Conversation's Chief Political Correspondent Michelle Grattan talks politics with politicians and experts, from Capital Hill.
Episodes
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Ed Husic urges brakes on data centres 'swamping' Australia
The former industry minister said Australia is 'going too fast' and 'been swamped by US tech' building data centres here to dodge growing US community opposition.
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Josh Frydenberg's plan to keep speaking out
The former treasurer and deputy Liberal leader said he's still deciding whether to make a political comeback, which he'll announce in the new year.
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Why Victoria's unpredictable election matters nationally
Premier Ben Carroll, Opposition Leader Jess Wilson, One Nation's Colleen Harkin and pollster Tony Barry preview November 28's closely watched election.
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Tim Wilson says government is borrowing from the future to spend today
The shadow treasurer also blames government spending for inflation and says the Coalition would not 'spend willy-nilly' if elected.
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Jim Chalmers warns rising debt bills are set to hit the budget
The treasurer says there's 'likely to be billions of dollars extra' in higher bills on government debt in December's budget update.
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Matt Canavan on combatting One Nation.
The Nationals leader said he'll do 'whatever it takes' to beat the Labor government – including not ruling out a move to the lower house before the next election.
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Chris Bowen on co-hosting COP and Australia's renewables target
The environment minister has fought back against criticisms that very few world leaders will attend the pre-COP meeting in the Pacific.
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Sarah Hanson-Young on why progressives need to 'take on' One Nation
The Greens' longest serving federal politician said politics 'isn't working' for ordinary voters and all parties need to do better at addressing their grievances.
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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Andrew Charlton's warning on data centres' impact on power bills
Speaking before the National Cabinet meeting ended, the cabinet secretary warned household bills are likely to rise if data centres are powered by coal or gas.
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One Nation's David Farley on the migrants his party wants
Farley described One Nation's immigration target as more complex than its official 130,000 figure, estimating about 40,000 more 'rotating' migrants were also needed.
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Sally McManus on how AI could force future cuts to HECS debts and work hours
The outgoing union leader said that beyond the new Victorian royal commission, 'a lot more needs to be done' to fight corruption in construction Australia-wide.
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Bridie O'Donnell on the 'precarious business' of the Tour de France
The ex-champion cyclist turned commentator explains why heat is a growing risk to the annual summer event, and points to some Australian women to watch this weekend.
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Paul Kelly on why Albanese is 'misunderstood' and Taylor needs to stay
In more than 50 years of covering federal politics, The Australian's editor-at-large says he has 'never seen a crisis' like the one facing the Liberal Party today.
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Wayne Swan on a 'dramatically different' political contest
The outgoing Labor president explains why no votes can be taken for granted in a time of 'anxiety and insecurity'.
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Andrew Wilkie on the need to go harder to curb gambling advertising
Long-time gambling reform advocate Andrew Wilkie says a reason the government is being timid on the issue is because of close relationships with affected industries.
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Julian Leeser on fighting an 'explosion' of hate in Australia
The Liberal frontbencher is the opposition’s leading Jewish voice and will soon appear at the royal commission on antisemitism.
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Jenny McAllister on why NDIS reforms are being delayed
The NDIS minister joined the podcast to discuss the government's reforms – and what the changes mean for 160,000 Australians.
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Jonno Duniam on guilt and relief about quitting politics
The departing Liberal frontbencher also said it's 'mad' to be talking about doing deals with One Nation so far from an election. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.
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Pollster Simon Welsh on One Nation's rise and Victoria's 'very messy' election
The pollster also warns any move to replace Victorian premier Jacinta Allan before the November state election would be a 'disaster' for Labor. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of...
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Graeme Samuel on 'doomsday' attacks on the federal budget
The businessman and former competition chief says the fierce criticism of what he calls 'mild' budget changes shows why politicians have avoided reform for decades. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. Your support…
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Keith Wolahan on when Liberals should preference One Nation
The moderate Liberal, who lost his seat last year, said his party was now 'fighting for its existence' – and can't ignore the need to work with One Nation. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
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Margaret Thornton on the landmark Tickle v Giggle transgender case
The anti-discrimination expert explains what the case was about, why it's set for an appeal -- and the broader implications if the decision stands. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow the…
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Jim Chalmers says 'we're in the cart' for more tax relief
The treasurer joined us on the podcast to defend his fifth budget, explaining the 'new architecture' to make future tax cuts easier 'when the budget can afford it'. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation...
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Tim Wilson on the budget's hidden hits on young Australians
The shadow treasurer plans to fight Labor's tax changes, arguing they would increase pressure on rents and 'kneecap' young Australians trying to get ahead. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow…
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Alan Kohler says Labor's tax changes probably won't lower house prices
The finance journalist says changes to capital gains tax concessions and negative gearing are only likely to have a 'symbolic effect' on housing affordability. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly. The Making of One...
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Antony Green on how Farrer's 'breakout' by-election will make history
One of the frontrunners in the historic by-election, independent Michelle Milthorpe, as well as One Nation MP Barnaby Joyce, also joined us on the podcast. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Search…
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Former minister Ed Husic on why Labor must 'stare down' gas companies over tax
The former cabinet minister said Australians have been 'sold short' by not taxing gas exports enough. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
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Economist Chris Richardson on next steps in fuel crisis
We speak to independent economist Chris Richardson on the fuel crisis and the Australian economy. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly.…
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The Making of One Nation: enter the outside
Nearly thirty years on, Hanson's infamous maiden speech — warning that Australia was "being swamped by Asians" — still echoes through Australian political life. But who was Pauline Hanson before she became a phenomenon, and what did she actually represent? Was she a cause of a new kind of…
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Rory Medcalf on Australians' growing national security fears
The security expert says there's been a 'disturbing' rise in Australians' anxiety about national security over the past two years. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation…
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Farrer by-election tests One Nation
Ahead of the May 9 by-election, hear from candidates and locals about the early frontrunners to win Farrer – long held by former Liberal leader Sussan Ley. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow…
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RBA Deputy's inflation warning
The Reserve Bank's Andrew Hauser told The Conversation's podcast inflation is likely to be higher than projected before the war in the Middle East broke out. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation...
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South Australian election special
Labor is expected to be returned in power in a landslide. But the election is also the first test of One Nation's ability to turn its surging popularity into seats. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One...
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Geoffrey Watson backs calls for royal commission on CFMEU scandal
The anti-corruption expert says Victoria's Labor government was willing to 'deal with the devil' on its Big Build projects – at the cost of 'bad governing'. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow...
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New Liberal deputy Jane Hume on industrial relations, child care and a decade in politics
The newly installed Liberal deputy leader talks about the turnaround in her fortunes, the spectre of WorkChoices, and why she doesn't believe in quotas for women. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation...
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Tony Barry on why a new Liberal leader isn't a quick fix
What do Australians in focus groups say about the Liberal Party right now? "They just kind of laugh," the former Liberal staffer turned pollster says. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow The...
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Barnaby Joyce on getting on with Pauline Hanson and One Nation's rise
Joyce says 'I'm not going to be wearing a burqa' like the One Nation leader – but his relationship with her is stronger than his 'bitter' end with the Nationals. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
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Jonno Duniam on the 'frenzy' over hate speech laws and the Coalition split
The Liberal senator says 'social media influencers' have falsely 'whipped up a frenzy' of misinformation about new hate speech laws limiting freedom of speech. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
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The Making of an Autocrat: co-opt the military
In November, six Democratic lawmakers recorded a video directed at members of the US military and intelligence agencies. In it, they issued a blunt reminder: "The laws are clear: you can refuse illegal orders. […] You must refuse illegal orders." The lawmakers were issuing the warning against the...
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The Making of an Autocrat: suppress the people
The list of people Donald Trump has punished or threatened to punish since returning to office is long. It includes the likes of James Comey, Letitia James, John Bolton, as well as members of the opposition, such as Adam Schiff, Mark Kelly and Kamala Harris. In fact, he has gone so far as to call...
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The Making of an Autocrat: beat the courts
In democratic systems, the courts are a vital check on a leader’s power. They have the ability to overturn laws and, in Donald Trump’s case, the executive orders he has relied on to achieve his goals. Since taking office, Trump has targeted the judiciary with a vengeance. He has attacked what he...
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The Making of an Autocrat: manufacture a crisis
Donald Trump has sounded the alarm, over and over again, that the United States is facing an “invasion” by dangerous gang members. He blames immigrants for the country’s economic problems and claims protesters are destroying US cities. Trump is not the first would-be autocrat to manufacture a...
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The Making of an Autocrat: recruit an architect
Every autocrat needs a clan of loyalists, strategists, masterminds – these are the figures behind the scenes pulling the strings. They’re unelected and unaccountable, yet they wield a huge amount of power. This is the role Stephen Miller has played for Donald Trump – he is the architect in chief...
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The Making of an Autocrat: hijack a party
We used to have a pretty clear idea of what an autocrat was. History is full of examples: Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, along with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping today. The list goes on. So, where does Donald Trump fit in? In this six-part podcast series, The Making of an Autocrat, we…
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The Making of an Autocrat, coming soon
We used to have a pretty clear idea of what an autocrat was. History is full of examples: Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, along with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping today. The list goes on. So, where does Donald Trump fit in? In this six-part podcast series, The Making of an Autocrat, we…
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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Jim Chalmers on the Bondi terror attack and the mid-year budget update
The treasurer says the government needs to do more on several fronts: from fighting antisemitism after Sunday's deadly attack, to cracking down on illegal tobacco. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 Your support matters...
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Sarah Hanson-Young on the social media ban as a risky 'fake silver bullet'
The Greens' senator says she's worried kids will end up 'in other online spaces that are even darker and more dangerous' – and Australia should act on other options. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of an Autocrat Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its...
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Tim Ayres on the AI rollout's looming 'bumps and glitches'
The industry minister denied Australia's adopting a 'light-touch' approach on AI – and says he's working to make sure data centres are 'not a drain on resources'. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of an Autocrat Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its...
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Sussan Ley on Barnaby's defection and how the environment law deal 'fell apart'
Ley says the Opposition was negotiating on the new environment laws with the government into early Thursday – just before Labor announced a deal with the Greens. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of an Autocrat Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its...
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Liberal Andrew McLachlan on why he'll still promote net zero
The South Australian Liberal senator says he's "dubious" about being able to sell the Coalition's new policy to voters – describing it as "carefree with emissions". Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of an…
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