Episodes
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Introduce a child to a bassoon and they’re enthralled with it: Nathaniel Cook, Charles Darwin School
Season 4 Episode 6: Sponsored by Get Set 4 Education In this episode, we explore the rich musical life of Charles Darwin Primary School, where all music is taught by class teachers through a creative, knowledge-rich curriculum. The school offers a wide-ranging instrumental programme, alongside...
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It’s probably the most fun you can have at school: Jade Hawkins, Wellington Lions Primary.
Season 4 Episode 5: Sponsored by Starshine Music. In this episode, we explore the music provision at Wellington Lions Primary Academy in Wiltshire. Based in a military town, the school is at the start of its musical journey, and is working hard to introduce a full range of curricular and...
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Lots of my Year 6 I’m teaching like I would teach Year 7: Jeanette Kershaw & Louise Kelly
Season 4 Episode 4: Sponsored by ABRSM In this episode, we explore how Albert Pye Primary School has developed a strong and inclusive music programme through collaboration, specialist teaching, and music hub partnership working. Based in Suffolk, the school provides weekly music lessons for every...
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Give every child the chance to fall in love with making music: Dafydd Williams, Rushmore Primary
Season 4 Episode 3: Sponsored by Music Crew In this episode, we explore how Rushmore Primary School in Hackney became the winner of the Outstanding School Music Department at the Music and Drama Education Awards 2026. We discuss the school’s ambitious and inclusive approach to music education,...
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Their choral master comes and teaches Year 5 and 6 music: Sarah Hargreaves, Ribby with Wrea
Season 4 Episode 2: Sponsored by Starshine Music In this episode, we explore how Ribby with Wrea Primary School in Lancashire has embedded partnership working to provide their pupils with a huge range of musical opportunities both within and beyond the school building - including the chance for…
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70% of Year 5 and 6 continue with free instrumental lessons: Sarah Lloyd, Kanes Hill Primary.
Season 4 Episode 1: Sponsored by Aurora Classroom In this episode, we explore how Kanes Hill Primary School has developed a deeply embedded music culture in which music sits at the heart of school life. Serving an inner-city community in Southampton, the school has created a sustainable and...
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S3 E5 - Claire Gower, St Margaret’s CEVA Primary
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Claire Gower about music at St Margaret's CEVA Primary School in Suffolk, where half the cohort have instrumental lessons, allowing them to create a thriving school orchestra. This episode is sponsored by the National Youth Choir: https://tinyurl.com/5yx2bvjx Music...
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S3 E4 - Jennifer Morgan, Plymouth Grove Primary
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Jennifer Morgan about music at Plymouth Grove Primary School in Manchester, highlighting their innovative approach to the KS2 curriculum which introduces a variety of instruments without losing depth of progress. Music Education Solutions is an education consultancy…
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S3 E3 - Emma Cottam, Lea Community Primary
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Emma Cottam about music at Lea Community Primary School in Lancashire, where she has implemented a system of musicality starters for each lesson to ensure musical skills progression. This episode is sponsored by Opera Anywhere: https://tinyurl.com/5b56pup6 Music Education...
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S3 E2 - Mike Milner, Victoria Junior & Seaton Junior
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Mike Milner about music at Seaton Junior and Victoria Junior in Cumbria, where he has worked for 35 years to ensure that music is embedded into the life of each school's community and local area. This episode is sponsored by Out of the Ark: https://www.outoftheark.co.uk...
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S3 E1 - Will Reeves, Cropredy Primary School
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Will Reeves about music at Cropredy C of E Primary School in Oxfordshire, where they have taken an innovative approach to the curriculum rooted in local folk music traditions. This episode is sponsored by DaCapo Primary Music: https://www.dacapoprimarymusic.co.uk/ Music...
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S2 Ep6 - Hilary Marsden, Ashdene Primary
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Hilary Marsden about music at Ashdene Primary School in Cheshire. Listen as Hilary reveals how Ashdene Primary builds a vibrant music culture, from creative classroom activities to whole-school performance moments. Music Education Solutions is an education consultancy...
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S2 Ep5 - Rebecca Robertson, Meoncross School
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Rebecca Robertson about music at Meoncross School in Hampshire. Rebecca shares how Meoncross School makes music accessible and engaging for all pupils, with practical ideas for inclusive music-making in an independent school setting. Music Education Solutions is an...
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S2 Ep4 - Kathryn Dukes, Holy Rosary
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Kathryn Dukes about music at Holy Rosary Catholic Voluntary Academy in Burton-on-Trent. In this episode, Kathryn discusses how she weaves music into the heart of school life, and her perspective on the subject leader role which she has taken on as an HLTA. Music Education...
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S2 Ep 3 - Anna Gower, St Andrews International
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Anna Gower about music at St Andrew's International School in Bangkok. Anna offers a fascinating international perspective on primary music education, comparing global approaches while highlighting what works in her diverse school context. Music Education Solutions is an...
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S2 Ep2 - Karen Creed, Great Linford Primary
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Karen Creed about music at Great Linford Primary School in Milton Keynes. Karen discusses how her own training on a rare Primary Music Specialist PGCE has shaped the way she approaches music in her school, and how she has rebuilt provision since the pandemic. Music...
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S2 Ep1 - Theresa Phillips, Sneyd Academy
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Theresa Phillips about music at Sneyd Academy in Stoke-on-Trent. Theresa explores her school's model, which sees her oversee the music curriculum, with specialist teaching provided by the local music hub. Music Education Solutions is an education consultancy company...
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Ep 7 - Annie Undzhiyan, Mere Green Primary
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Annie Udzhiyan about music at Mere Green Primary School in the West Midlands. Annie explores how her school prioritises creativity and community through music, bringing practical ideas to life in everyday teaching, and shares Mere Green's unique curriculum model of...
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Ep 6 - Emma Cornhill - Fairburn Community Primary School
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Emma Cornhill about music at Fairburn Community Primary School in Yorkshire. Emma talks about nurturing musical confidence in teachers and pupils alike, in her mixed-year group school with fewer than 100 pupils. Music Education Solutions is an education consultancy…
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Ep 5: Jonathan Harris - The Premier Academy
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Jonathan Harris about music at The Premier Academy in Milton Keynes. Jonathan Harris discusses developing a rich music offer that supports whole-school improvement, sharing stories of student success and teacher collaboration. Music Education Solutions is an education...
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Ep 4 - Janice Rowstron - Milby Primary School
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Janice Rowstron about music at Milby Primary School in Warwickshire. Janice Rowstron highlights how Milby Primary fosters musical progression and creativity through purposeful planning and community engagement. Music Education Solutions is an education consultancy company...
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Ep 3: David Gray - Barton Hill Academy
Dr Liz Stafford chats to David Gray about music at Barton Hill Academy in Devon. David discusses his role as a specialist teacher, and how Barton Hill Academy shapes a diverse and engaging music programme that supports student confidence and creativity. Music Education Solutions is an education...
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Ep 2 Ben Griffiths - Bannockburn Primary
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Ben Griffiths about music at Bannockburn Primary School in London. Specialist music teacher Ben shares how Bannockburn Primary builds a strong and inclusive music culture, with strategies that support both teacher confidence and pupil participation. Music Education...
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Ep 1: Helen Byard - Edenbridge Primary School.
Dr Liz Stafford chats to Helen Byard about music at Edenbridge Primary School in Kent. Helen discusses her journey from classroom generalist to leading and teaching music as a specialist, with insights into curriculum design, staff support, and fostering joy in music for all pupils.
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Primary Music in Conversation Podcast
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