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Rebellious Times Podcast
by Chris Januszewski
Hosted by Chris Januszewski, founder of Rebel Commerce Solutions, the Rebellious Times Podcast explores the human side of tech innovation — from bold founders scaling B2B SaaS startups to employees navigating the realities of AI-era transformation. We unpack founder journeys, AI-powered growth, product innovation, and the future of work — while addressing how these shifts impact mental health, family life, identity, and purpose. This podcast gives voice to everyone building or adapting in the new economy. From mindset breakthroughs to scalable sales, marketing, and partnership systems — tune in for real stories and tactical insights that power predictable growth.
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Episode 31: Reinventing Messaging – How RCS is Transforming Customer Conversations
Why SMS Is No Longer Enough Text messaging changed how businesses communicate.However, SMS has not evolved. In this episode of the Rebellious Times Podcast, Chris Januszewski sits down with Michael Lamb, CEO of nativeMsg, to explore how Rich Communication Services (RCS) is redefining customer engagement. Michael has spent years building messaging platforms. Along the way, he saw the limits of SMS firsthand. There is no rich media. There is no interactivity. And there is very little insight into performance. As a result, businesses are stuck using a tool that no longer meets modern expectations. Key Highlights Why SMS lacks insight, analytics, and engagement How RCS transforms text messages into interactive experiences RCS as an application development protocol, not just messaging The challenges of building nativeMsg during COVID Why education is critical for RCS adoption What entrepreneurs need to know about market readiness Perfect for:• Marketing and CX leaders• Product and growth teams• Founders building messaging-first products• Businesses exploring customer engagement innovation From Black-and-White to Color TV Michael describes the shift from SMS to RCS with a simple analogy.It is like moving from black-and-white television to color. RCS allows businesses to send rich media, interactive buttons, quick replies, and branded messages directly inside the native SMS app. Because of this, companies no longer need to force customers into separate apps or fragmented experiences. At the same time, RCS provides analytics. Businesses can finally see what customers engage with and refine their messaging accordingly. Building nativeMsg Before the Market Was Ready Building nativeMsg was not easy.Timing mattered. Michael shares what it was like launching during COVID and educating a market that did not yet understand RCS. He emphasizes the importance of long-term commitment and resilience. If customers do not know something exists, they cannot buy it. Still, Michael believes RCS is inevitable. Messaging is moving toward application-level experiences. nativeMsg is building the platform to make that future accessible. Why This Episode Matters This episode is about more than messaging.It is about educating the market and pushing innovation forward. If you care about customer communication, this conversation will change how you think about text messaging. nativeMsg links: nativemsg.com LinkedIn
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Hosted by Chris Januszewski, founder of Rebel Commerce Solutions, the Rebellious Times Podcast explores the human side of tech innovation — from bold founders scaling B2B SaaS startups to employees navigating the realities of AI-era transformation. We unpack founder journeys, AI-powered growth, product innovation, and the future of work — while addressing how these shifts impact mental health, family life, identity, and purpose. This podcast gives voice to everyone building or adapting in the new economy. From mindset breakthroughs to scalable sales, marketing, and partnership systems — tune in for real stories and tactical insights that power predictable growth.
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