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Recruiter Stories
by NALSC
The Official Podcast of NALSC, the National Association of Legal Search Consultants
Episodes
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 40: Ted McKenna, post-Keynote; interview by Jordan Abshire
Episode 40, featuring Ted McKenna; interview by Jordan Abshire. Ted McKenna, best-selling co-author of The JOLT Effect and The Activator Advantage, returns to Recruiter Stories following his keynote at the NALSC Symposium in Austin. Ted expands on his research into successful rainmakers,...
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 39: Ted McKenna; interview by Jordan Abshire
Ted McKenna, best-selling co-author of The JOLT Effect and The Activator Advantage, previews his upcoming NALSC keynote on what high-performing rainmakers do differently and how professionals can overcome client indecision. Drawing on research across law firms, search firms, and other…
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 38: Niraj Chhabra; interview by Jordan Abshire
Niraj Chhabra, a certified financial planner and founder of Sidebar Advisors, previews his upcoming NALSC Symposium breakout session, "What Candidates Aren't Saying: Financial Doubts That Can Kill Deals." Drawing on his work advising attorneys, Niraj explains why candidates often evaluate...
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 37: Shannon Davis (Mintz) & Jessica Grayson (Stradley Ronan); interview by Jordan Abshire
NALSC Law Firm Advisory Committee Chair Shannon Davis and Chair-Elect Jessica Grayson discuss how law firms can build stronger lateral recruiting programs by aligning recruiting, integration, business development, and firm branding. The conversation explores what distinguishes top external...
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 36: Jae Um; interview by Jordan Abshire
NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 36: Jae Um; interview by Jordan Abshire Jae Um, Chief Growth Officer and Head of Knowledge at Lumio, shares her perspective on the future of the legal industry, drawing on her experience in law firm strategy, pricing, innovation, and business development.…
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 35: Tiffany Ambrose; interview by Jordan Abshire
Episode 35: Tiffany Ambrose; interview by Jordan Abshire. Tiffany Ambrose, Principal at Principal Recruiting and a new NALSC board member, reflects on her transition from practicing family law into legal recruiting, explaining how her desire to help people through difficult transitions naturally...
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 34: Victoria Gamble
Episode 34: Victoria Gamble, new NALSC Board Member; interview by Jordan Abshire. Victoria Gamble, founder of Gamble Partner Search and a new NALSC board member, reflects on her path into legal recruiting and the lessons that shape her partner-level work. Drawing on her experience as a Division I...
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 33: David Gialanella, Editor-in-Chief of Business of Law and the American Lawyer
Episode 33, featuring David Gialanella; interview by Jordan Abshire. David, Editor-in-Chief of The American Lawyer, breaks down ALM's latest lateral report, explaining that today's market reflects an intensification—not a fundamental shift—of longstanding BigLaw dynamics, driven by client demand...
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 32: Stephanie Chen Banjo
Episode 32, featuring Stephanie Chen Banjo; interview by Jordan Abshire. Stephanie previews her upcoming NALSC Conference breakout session, Navigating Candidate Roadblocks, where she will explore the hidden psychological and practical factors that influence lawyers' career-move decisions. Drawing...
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 31: Chris De Santis
Episode 31, featuring Chris De Santis; interview by Jordan Abshire. Chris previews his upcoming NALSC Conference session, Closing the Generational Communication Gap. Chris explains how generational friction is less about personality and more about deeply embedded differences in upbringing,...
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast Episode 30: Ava Diamond Dreyer & Andrew Blatter
Episode 30, featuring Ava Diamond Dreyer and Andrew Blatter; interview by Jordan Abshire. Ava and Andrew preview their upcoming Brain Care Basics session at the NALSC Conference in New Orleans. Take-aways: Recruiting is neurologically demanding because recruiters are always "on" and operate in a...
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NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 29: David Lat
Podcast Episode 29, featuring David Lat, legal industry observer and founder of Above the Law and Original Jurisdiction; interview by Jordan Abshire. David shares his thoughts on how Above the Law has changed the legal profession. David also discusses the impact of OCI's accelerated timeline on...
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast: Episode 28: PJ Dunn
Podcast Episode 28, featuring PJ Dunn, Certified Pro-Dev Coach, Behavioral Strategist; interview by Stuart Tenhoor. Stuart and PJ cover a wide-range of topics relevant to recruiters specifically and professionals generally, including self-limiting beliefs, imposter syndrome, Clifton strength...
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 27: Patrick Fuller
Podcast 27, featuring Patrick Fuller, Chief Strategist, Legal at ALM; interview by Jordan Abshire. A long-term friend of NALSC, Patrick covers a range of topics, including law firm strategy & challenges across segments, how recruiters can use data, and the importance of being unique, memorable, &...
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 26: Jarrett Green
Podcast 26, featuring Well-Being, Stress Resiliency, & Peak Performance Consultant Jarrett Green; interview by Jordan Abshire. Jarrett will be presenting the Keynote at our upcoming Symposium in Denver on "Thriving through the Chaos: Science-Based Tools to Emotionally and Cognitively Thrive and...
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 25: Kait LeDonne
Podcast 25, featuring Personal Branding and LinkedIn Expert, Kait LeDonne; interview by Jordan Abshire. Kait will be presenting at our upcoming Symposium in Denver on "Building a Magnetic Personal Brand to Elevate Legal Recruiting Success". In this episode, we cover the importance of narrative…
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 24: Eva Wisnik
Podcast 24, featuring Eva Wisnik; interview by Jordan Abshire. Career and interview expert Eva Wisnik previews her upcoming panel at the Fall Symposium "Best Practices for Interviewing and Acquiring Lateral Talent." Eva shares a number of interviewing gems like: 1) Avoid familiarity and curiosity...
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 23: Blane Prescott
Podcast 23, featuring Blane Prescott; interview by Jordan Abshire. Law firm management consultant Blane Prescott discusses partner compensation, origination credits, two tiered systems, lateral partner vetting and more. Wisdom dropped includes: the highest paid partner at a firm may well be...
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 22: Amy McCormack
Podcast 22, featuring Amy McCormack; interview by Jordan Abshire. Long-time NALSC Member walks down memory lane, including the creation of NALSC's first newsletter, faxing resumes, and signing up to be one of Bullhorn's first customers. Amy also drops a lot of recruiting wisdom, including the 3...
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 21: Caren Ulrich stacy
Podcast 21, featuring Caren Ulrich Stacy; interview by Jordan Abshire. Diversity Lab's Caren Ulrich Stacy talks about her early career in legal recruiting and professional development. Caren also discusses Moneyball for lawyers and insights revealed by data analysis around predictors of success…
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 20: Michael Elkins & Amy Mallow
Podcast 20, featuring upcoming Conference Speakers Michael Elkins & Amy Mallow; interview by Jordan Abshire. Michael is a veteran labor employment and sports law attorney who will be part of a panel addressing AI and remote working pitfalls for recruiters. In addition to previewing the panel,...
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 19: Sterling Miller
NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 19, featuring upcoming Conference Keynote Sterling Miller; interview by Jordan Abshire.
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 18: Joe Ankus
NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 18, featuring Joe Ankus on mental health; interview by Jordan Abshire.
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 17: Connie Rinaldi, Stephanie Ankus, Valerie Fontaine
NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 17, featuring Board Member Connie Rinaldi and NALSC HQ (Stephanie Ankus, Valerie Fontaine); interview by Jordan Abshire.
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 16: Jennifer Gillman and Trevon Jenifer
NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 16, featuring Jennifer Gillman and Trevon Jenifer; interview by Jordan Abshire.
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 15: Nikia Gray and Kendall Lowery
NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 15: Featuring Fall Symposium Speakers Nikia Gray and Kendall Lowery; interview by Jordan Abshire
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 14: Mey Ly Ortiz and Esther Alpert
NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 14: Featuring Fall Symposium Speaker Mey Ly Ortiz and new NALSC Board Member Esther Alpert; interview by Jordan Abshire
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 13: Kevin Bacon & Hilary Gerzhoy
NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 13: Featuring new NALSC Board Member Kevin Bacon and Fall Symposium Speaker Hilary Gerzhoy; interview by Jordan Abshire
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NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 12: Stuart Tenhoor
NALSC Recruiter Stories Podcast 12: Featuring new NALSC Board Member Stuart Tenhoor; interview by Jordan Abshire
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Episode 11: Interview with 2024 NALSC Conference Panel Facilitator Chuck Curtis, with Jordan Abshire and Scott Love
In this episode, your NALSC Podcast co-hosts Jordan Abshire and Scott Love interview Chuck Curtis, discussing key issues related to client development.
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Episode 10: Interviews with NALSC 2024 Annual Conference speakers Rob Mosley and Alex Su
In this episode, tune in to learn some of the ideas and talking points that two of our speakers will be sharing with us during our annual conference in San Diego at the Pendry, Feb 29 to March 2nd. https://www.nalsc.org/2024-annual-conference/ Opening Session: "The Four Great Truths" Opening...
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Episode 9: Scott Love interviews new board member Melissa Peters, and fall symposium speaker Zach Warren
In this episode, we introduce our new board member Melissa Peters, and also have a conversation with one of our fall symposium presenters, Zach Warren. https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissapetersesq/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/zach-warren-19403371/ https://www.nalsc.org/2023-fall-symposium/
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Episode 8: Ethel Badawi, new board member; Conference Sneak Peek with Chris Desantis
In this episode, we introduce our new board member Ethel Badawi, and also have a conversation with our fall symposium keynote speaker Chris Desantis. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethelbadawi/ https://cpdesantis.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/cpdesantis/ https://www.nalsc.org/2023-fall-symposium/
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Episode 7: Jordan Abshire, new Board member; Tina Solis: When Laterals Move to Other Firms
In Episode 7 of the NALSC Podcast, we get to hear from Jordan Abshire, a new NALSC board member. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanabshire/ We also hear from Tina Solis with Nixon Peabody, who shares her insights and suggestions on what lateral attorneys need to know from an ethics perspective…
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Episode 6: Conference Sneak Peek: Gina Passarella and Susan Lambreth, Interviewed by Scott Love
In this special episode of Recruiter Stories, you will hear from two of our Spring Conference speakers, talking about their sessions and how they will help you. First, Scott Love interviews Gina Passarella, Editor-in-Chief, Global Legal Brands, with ALM media as she discusses her presentation,...
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Episode 5: Mitch Satalof, Natalie Thorsen Harris, Scott Love, Chris Graham
Natalie Thorsen Harris interviews NALSC President Mitch Satalof. Scott Love interviews NALSC keynote speaker Chris Graham about his topic for our annual conference.
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Episode 4: Patrick Moya and Gary Miles
In this episode, NALSC President Mitch Satalof interviews board member Patrick Moya; Board member Scott Love interviews Gary Miles to discuss his fall symposium presentation: The Data Behind the Shifting DEI Landscape
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Episode 3, Kathy Richardson and Jason Feifer
Mitch Satalof interviews Kathy Richardson. Scott Love interviews fall symposium keynote speaker Jason Feifer.
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Episode 2, Valerie Fontaine and Dan Binstock
In this Episode, NALSC president Mitch Satalof interviews Valerie Fontaine, and Raphael Franze interviews Dan Binstock on his conference panel "Sensitive Situations".
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Episode 1: Ross Weil, Keith Fall, and Pat Gillette
In our inaugural episode of "Recruiter Stories", NALSC President Mitch Satalof interviews Ross Weil and Keith Fall with Walker Associates in New York City. NALSC Board Member Scott Love interviews Pat Gillette, keynote speaker at the 2022 NALSC Conference in Scottsdale, Arizona. For more...
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