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Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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Episodes

  1. Episode 239: Lets Get Creative

    Make sure your pencils are sharp and you’re ready to learn this week. Refin 101 is back as we will be talking about working tag matches. In addition to that we will be talking about the moving parts in WWE creative, moving the Crown Jewel venue, NXT and AEW going head-to-head Wednesday, and our...

  2. Episode 238: Safety at all Costs

    Make sure your pencils are sharp and you’re ready to learn this week. Refin 101 is back as we will be talking about camera blocking. In addition to that we will touch on the low Wrestle Dream numbers being reported, the possibilities of Sheamus signing with AEW, Crown Jewel in Saudi Arabia with…

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  3. Episode 237: Working the Horseshoe

    Make sure your pencils are sharp and you’re ready to learn this week. Refin 101 is back as we will be talking about referees “working the horseshoe.” In addition to that we will touch on the news of Adam Copeland announcing that 2027 will be his last year wrestling, Ilja Dragunov is officially…

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  4. Episode 236: Respect my Authority

    Make sure your pencils are sharp and you’re ready to learn this week. Refin 101 is back as we will be talking about Commanding the Ring. In addition to that we will have a world-renowned Refin Review; as well as talk about the busy PLE/PPV weekend for TNA and WWE. Finally we will talk about some...

  5. Episode 235: Always Ready

    Make sure your pencils are sharp and you’re ready to learn this week. Refin 101 is back as we will be talking about being TV presentable. In addition to that we will have a world-renowned Refin Review; as well as talk about The Rocks’ comments regarding AEW. We will finally give our thoughts on…

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  6. Episode 234: Teachable Moment

    Class is back in session this week as we will take advantage of a teachable moment when we talk about cadence and counts in our Refin 101 segment. In addition to that we will talk about the debuts of Joseph Sawyer and Samuel Shaw with TNA, Osprey vs Okada in France on 10/6, and our world famous...

  7. Episode 233: Class is in Session

    This week we debut our new segment, Refin 101 this week. In addition to that we have our world famous Refin Review, we will address the reported signing of Ilja Dragunov with AEW. All this and more!!!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Pro...

  8. Episode 232- Peak Behind The Curtain

    Have you ever wondered what happens the days before and the day of a wrestling PPV, Television program , and house show for a referee? This week Brian, Jimmy and Daniel will talk about their experiences in their times in wrestling. All this as well as we have two new champions in WWE that we we...

  9. Episode 231- New Level of Objectivity

    This week we bring to you The Passing of Bill Dundee and Andy “The Butcher” Williams CEO is the BOAT? Star rating being extremely objective New Levels interview with Ariel Helwani WWE getting better with storytelling? Our world famous Refin Review All this and more.... Refin It Up Social Media...

  10. Episode 230: The Band is back Together

    This week we bring to you The extremely busy week and weekend that was in wrestling MJF comments on running the same venue multiple times When is the right time to become champion Our world famous Refin Review All this and more.... Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup Website...

  11. Episode 229: Express Lane to the Top

    This week we bring to you Ilja Dragunov leaving WWE Cody Rhodes dropping some easter eggs on Smackdown Thoughts on TNA Lockdown Our world famous Refin Review Our sit-down with former NWA Junior Heavyweight Champion and Mr JCW, Kerry Morton. All this and more.... Refin It Up Social Media Twitter…

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  12. Episode 228- Give The People What They Want

    This week we bring to you Zilla Fatu debut last week on NXT Could Swerve be teaming with Kofi and Xavier woods in Aew soon Chelsea Green remains the women’s champion Dominik Mysterio and El Grande Americano main eventing TripleMania 34. Our world famous Refin Review All this and more.... Refin It...

  13. 227- Paying Your Dues

    This week we bring to you Dominik Mysterio is frustrated with how he is booked in WWE vs. AAA Paying Your Dues AAA tournament to face Roman on raw in Mexico City Chelsea green suffers a broken orbital bone on smack down last week Tatum Paxley has arrived on SmackDown. Shinsuke Nakamura is on his...

  14. Whose Spot is It?

    This week we bring to you Triple H’s response to Damian Priest's recent comments about the same 4 people being on top Thoughts on Summer Slam RAW after Summer Slam Brock Lesnar’s retirement from wrestling The passing of Dory Funk Jr. Our world famous Refin Review All this and more.... Refin It Up...

  15. Episode 225: Prices are too high

    This week we bring to you WWE Radio taking over Sirius XM 156 The push towards Summer Slam this weekend Kerry Morris returns to talk about ticket pricing being too high The latest RAW from Monday Our world famous Refin Review All this and more.... Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG…

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  16. Episode 224: What's Causing All This

    This week we bring to you TNA Wrestlings record breaking TV numbers MLP television debut Crowing a new women’s world champion Booking short term and long term Having PPVs to just have PPVs Ticket Pricing Was SNME successful? The latest RAW from Monday Our world famous Refin Review All this and...

  17. Episode 223: Stu Grayson

    This week we bring to you The latest RAW from Monday Our world famous Refin Review Reactions to part 1 of the Jeff Jarrett/TNA Darkside of the Ring CM Punk officially being moved to Smackdown as WWE Champion Our sit down with former AEW Superstar and current Interim MLP Canadian Champion Stu...

  18. Episode 222: The Boys Are Back

    This week we bring to you The latest RAW from Monday Our world famous Refin Review TNA KO TV title 16-woman tournament Amazing red and Konnan going into TNA HOF at Bound for Glory Eric young asks for and is granted his release from TNA Sheamus leaving WWE after a 19 year career with the company…

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  19. Episode 221: Refin Rewind with RVD

    This week we bring to you Refin Rewind where we go back to September of last year and ring to you the show we did with WWE Hall of Famer, Rob Van Dam. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Pro Wrestling Tees Refin It Up YouTube...

  20. Episode 220: Dreaming of New Beginnings

    This week we will talk about... The latest RAW from Monday Our world famous Refin Review The possible working relationship between TNA and OVW Smackdown moving to two hours The finals of the KOTR/QOTR tournaments Tommy Dreamer and Sami Callihan no longer with TNA The rumor about Tommy Dreamer…

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  21. Episode 219: Rumor and Innuendo

    This week we will talk about... The latest RAW from Monday Gunther decided on his stipulation on Smackdown Paramount‘s $111 billion purchase of Warner Bros Discovery. Our world famous Refin Review CM Punk rumors online Reactions to Reactions to Earl and Jimmy joining Busted Open last week Busted...

  22. Episode 218: All in on Yourself

    This week we will talk about... The latest RAW from Monday OVW 1400 Mercedes returns to AEW Our world famous Refin Review Mick Foley has one more match in him? Releases from TNA Cody vs Gunther 2 All this and more.... Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup Website...

  23. Episode 217: Clashing with Royalty

    This week we will talk about... The latest RAW from Monday KOTR and QOTR Tournaments Clash in Italy recap Our world famous Refin Review Too much wrestling in one day AEW PPV follow up shows been falling short ? The Mask vs Mask match from AAA All this and more.... Refin It Up Social Media Twitter...

  24. Episode 216: Popping Huge

    This week we will talk about... The latest RAW from Monday Our world famous Refin Review Recap a busy weekend of wrestling from WWE and AEW Some familiar faces potentially going back to WWE Fightful’s Joel Pearl Our round table with Donnie DaSilva from Huge Pop Radio All this and more.... Recap a...

  25. Episode 215: It's A New Day

    This week we will talk about... The latest RAW from Monday Our world famous Refin Review What's next for the New Day New Champion and #1 Contender at TNA Tony Khan about the report of WWE talking about AEW's tv deal internally. The return of Swerve Strickland to AEW Clash in Italy matches made…

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  26. Episode 214: Gingerhausen

    This week we will talk about... The latest RAW from Monday Backlash Recap Our world famous Refin Review Remembering Ted Turner The John Cena Classic AEW Fairway to Hell reactions Darby making MJF put his hair up The possibility of a Paul Wight comeback to the ring All this and more.... Refin It…

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  27. Episode 213: Summer Changes

    This week we will talk about... The latest RAW from Monday MORE WWE releases Our world famous Refin Review CW on ESPN Roman Reigns is now no longer being advertised for RAW episodes for the month of June. The youth movement on Smackdown All this and more.... Refin It Up Social Media Twitter...

  28. Episode 212: Ringside With Kerry Morris

    This week we will talk about... The Hulk Hogan Documentary on Netflix RAW Recap Major WWE releases HHH resigns with TKO Lucha Underground coming back? Our world famous Refin Review And our sit down with Kerry Morris All this and more.... Refin It Up Social Media Twitter @refinitup and IG Website...

  29. Episode 211: Mania Moments

    This week we will talk about... Look back at Wrestle Mania 42 The RAW after Mania Referees signing at WWE World And our world famous Refin Review All this and more!!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter @refinitup and IG Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ YouTube...

  30. Episode 210: Showcase of the Immortals

    This week we will talk about... How can AEW or any other promotion capitalize off WWE creative woes? ODB going into TNA HOF 2026 at Bound for Glory EC3 returns to TNA at Rebellion We will revisit the Wrestle mania go home RAW from Monday Night Wrestle mania predictions And our world famous Refin...

  31. Episode 209: Storytime with Refin It Up

    This week we will talk about... The return of Chris Jericho to AEW Pat McAfee revealed as person on the phone with Randy Orton How to tell proper stories that mean something in pro wrestling. Wrestle Mania ticket sales The release of the Wrestle Mania Card We will revisit RAW from Monday Night CM...

  32. Episode 208: Right Place, Right Time

    This week we will talk about... What Becky Lynch thinks about a Sasha Banks WWE return TNAs consistent ratings on AMC ROH/MLP "Global Wars Canada" Your new United States Champion, Sami Zayn. We will revisit RAW from Monday Night Stephanie McMahon/ Cody Rhodes segment Oba/Brock segment New Tag…

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  33. Chaos In Numbers

    This week we will talk about...The chaos that occured on Smackdown last week. Some discrepancies that have come out in regards to the AEW numbers by Dave Meltzer We will revisit RAW from Monday Night And our world famous Refin Review All this and more.... Refin It Up Social Media Twitter...

  34. Episode 206: Goldylocks

    This week we discuss the referee incident at OVW, Randy Orton hearing the voices again as he has turned on Cody on Smackdown, and we also recap RAW all in our first count. In addition to that we will have another great Refin Review; we are also thrilled to welcome former TNA backstage…

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  35. Episode 205: Wrestling with Athletes

    We are back for another great episode of Refin It Up as we talk about Cody Rhodes big win over Drew McIntyre Brian “Road Dogg” James” departing WWE Jordynne Grace’s injured ankle injury before smackdown Raw Recap Refin Review Professional Sports Athletes vs Pro Wrestlers Refin It Up Social Media...

  36. Episode 204; Man in the Box

    Coming off of the Elimination Chamber PLE we have a lot to talk about. After watching the PLE and RAW on Monday are you getting excited for Wrestle Mania? We are also going to talk about the promo that Steve Maclin cut last week on IMPACT on AMC; as well as the 1st hour of WrestleMania on BOTH...

  37. Chamber of Secrets

    This week we talk about the Cody Rhodes and Sami Zayn segment from Smackdown and if and or when ether one of them will turn heel. In addition to that we talk about our thoughts about this past weeks RAW as well as what we expect to see this Saturday at Elimination Chamber in Chicago. Refin It Up...

  38. Episode 202: Connor Thornton

    We welcome Connor Thornton to the show this week to talk about all things content creating. Connor talks about all the good and bad things that he has come across in the world on content creations. In addition to all of that Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel talk about the very busy week of pro wrestling...

  39. Episode 201: We Live Pal

    We are LIVE pal!!!! You can now catch the show on YouTube and Twitch. However, we still bring the show to you right here in podcast form every week. This week we talk about the ratings for TNA on AMC from last week, if the Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre can go all the way to Wrestle Mania, one…

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  40. Refin 200

    We are celebrating out 200th episode of Refin It Up this week. We dedicate it to all of our listers as we asked you all for your questions and we try to answer them all. In addition to that we talk about the busy week in wrestling. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup...

  41. Ref Fellas 8

    We dive into what we thought about Saturday Nights Main Event from last week and the possibilities that it presents for some of the wrestlers going forward into the Royal Rumble. We also revisit the second episode of TNA Impact on AMC; what we thought of it, good and bad. Season tow of UNREAL on...

  42. Ref Fellas 7

    The fellas are back in town this week. Daniel, Brian, and Jimmy are back t talk about the week that was in wrestling. We talk about the debut of TNA on AMC; the hits and some misses from last Thursdays debut. In addition to that we talk about the turn of Natalya to Nattie on Maxxine Durpi; or so…

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  43. Ref Fellas 6

    The fellas are back and ready for Ref Fellas this week as Brian and Jimmy break down Drew McIntyre’s title victory over Cody Rhodes from Smackdown last Friday as well as the officially debut of Jordynne Grace on Smackdown. We additionally talk about the debut of TNA on AMC this Thursday night…

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  44. Ref Fellas V

    We are back from our holiday break with Ref Fellas V. Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel starts 2026 hot when they discuss some of the top news in pro wrestling. From debuts to returns all the way to Drew McIntyre and Cody Rhodes three stages of hell match we talk about it all. Plus don’t forget everyone’s...

  45. Refin Rewind: Sgt Slaughter

    This week we are doing a Refin Rewind with our episode with Sgt. Slaughter from December of 2024 Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter…

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  46. Refin Rewind: Alisha Edwards

    This week we are doing a Refin Rewind with our episode with Alisha Edwards from October of 2024 Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas...

  47. The Stripes

    It is time for the Stripes Awards this week on Refin It Up. Find out what wrestlers and what moments are taking home a Stripes Award this year. Beforehand, Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel discuss everything that happened in John Cena’s last match at Saturday Nights Main Event as well as what the…

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  48. Ref Fellas IV

    It’s all about the fellas this week as we bring to you Ref Fellas 4. On this episode we talk about everything from Chris Jericho to John Cena’s last match and even who we think the hooded figure is thats inserting himself or herself in matches in WWE. All this and some bold predictions on this...

  49. Under the Skirt with Mosh

    We go stage diving this week as we welcome in former WWE Tag Team Champion Mosh to the show. As half of the tag team “The Headbangers” Mosh worked with some hall of famer tag teams like the New Age Outlaws and Legions of Doom. The Headbangers started with WWE at the right time with the right...

  50. Refin Rewatch 5

    We go back in time today as we Rewatch the four on four survivor series match from the 1995 Survivor Series. The match pitted Shawn Michaels, Sid, British Bulldog, and Ahmed Johnson against Yokozuna, Owen Hart, Dean Douglas, and Razon Ramon. Brian, Daniel, and Jimmy not only rewatch the match...

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Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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How many episodes does Refin' It Up have?

Refin' It Up has 238 episodes on PodParley. The most recent episode was published on November 4, 2026.

What is Refin' It Up about?

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

How often does Refin' It Up release new episodes?

Refin' It Up publishes weekly, based on its 238 episodes since February 2022.

Who hosts Refin' It Up?

Refin' It Up is created and hosted by Refin' It Up.
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