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Right There With You
by Cass Cooper | The Chaos Whisperer
Right There With You is a podcast for those of us navigating the intersections of work, life, and pressure in real time. Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™, breaks down what’s actually happening beneath burnout, misalignment, and leadership fatigue. Giving name, language, and permission to move differently. Each episode focuses on real tensions through expert conversations and real-world insight. We don’t just tell stories—we diagnose what’s not working and reframe how to lead through it. Here we know that: Soft skills are not soft. They are infrastructure. Burnout is a design flaw, not a character one. Clarity is how we stop surviving chaos and start leading through it. Join the Community: ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/RightThereWithYou ✨ And Follow Cass: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href=
Episodes
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Stop Bringing Folding Chairs. Build Your Own Table.
What if the room you've spent years trying to get into was never the point? The cancellation of the 2026 Grace Hopper Celebration raises bigger questions about access, belonging, and what happens when the institutions we've relied on stop investing in us. But this conversation goes beyond one...
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We Don’t Need More Content. We Need More Connection.
We have never been more connected to our devices, yet so many of us are struggling to feel connected to each other. We scroll, post, comment, network, and build personal brands, all in the name of community. But visibility is not belonging, engagement is not intimacy, and an audience is not the...
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You Can't Have It All, and That's the Point
The myth of having it all is keeping women exhausted, overextended, and chasing versions of success they may not even want. Women are expected to excel at work, show up for their families, maintain relationships, and somehow make it all look effortless. That expectation doesn’t create…
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What’s All the F.U.D. About? AI, Fear, and Leadership Uncertainty
AI is everywhere. So is the fear surrounding it. From concerns about job loss and layoffs to questions about whether AI can be trusted, leaders and employees are navigating a new kind of workplace uncertainty. But what happens when we stop letting fear, uncertainty, and doubt lead the…
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Visibility Without Clarity Will Exhaust You
What happens when building a business starts to feel more like performing success than actually building something? Cass sits down with Nomiki Petrolla, product leader, startup founder, and advocate for expanding access to entrepreneurship for women in tech. With more than 15 years of experience…
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Success, AI, & the Power of Becoming Yourself
You’re Allowed to Rewrite Your Story What if the story you’ve been using to define success was never actually yours? In this conversation, Cass sits down with Miri Rodriguez, global executive, author, and thought leader in AI strategy, storytelling leadership, and ethical innovation, to unpack…
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It Doesn't Make Cents: Measuring Value Beyond Money
What If Your Value Isn’t Measured in Money? What happens when you spend years building a successful career, hit the markers you thought would make you feel accomplished—and then realize you don't actually want your life to be organized around the next title, promotion, or paycheck? In this…
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You’re Not Powerless. You Just Need a Better Map.
We spend a lot of time trying to fix ourselves when things aren't working: work harder, become more visible, communicate better, prove our value, be more strategic. But sometimes the problem isn't our individual performance. It's the system around us. In this episode of Right There With You, I'm...
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Don’t Burn Yourself Out to Prove You’re Ambitious
Ambition doesn't have to cost you your health, your family, or your humanity. Full Stop. You can have high standards. You can be deeply ambitious. You can want more. And you can still have boundaries. For too many high-performing people, exhaustion becomes evidence that they're doing enough. We…
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Clarity Won’t Save You. But Taking Action Might
What if clarity isn't what you're missing? What if you're waiting for something that can only come from taking action? In a world defined by AI transformation, layoffs, economic uncertainty, career shifts, and organizational disruption, waiting until you have the perfect plan can leave you…
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Stop Apologizing for Becoming Someone New: This Is Your Permission to Evolve
Show Notes What if the thing holding you back isn't fear of failure—but the belief that you're not allowed to change? This week, I'm joined by mindset coach, entrepreneur, and host of the Side Hustle of Growth podcast, Christian James ("Your Girl CJ"), for a conversation about building a life…
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I Didn't Get the Job: What Rejection Taught Me About Building A Life I Want
This wasn't the episode I planned to record. I sat down ready to teach about work-life rhythm, burnout, and sustainable ambition. Then I got an email saying I didn't get the job I genuinely wanted. Instead of teaching the framework, I decided to live it out loud. In this deeply personal solo...
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Sometimes the Best Thing You Can Do Is Quit: Burnout, Boundaries, and the Courage to Speak Up
What if quiet quitting isn't really about quitting at all? In this episode of Right There With You, Cass sits down with Christine Bongard, CEO and Co-Founder of the Women in Transformation (WIT) Network, to explore why so many high performers are quietly disengaging at work. As layoffs, AI, and...
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If It's Not a Hell Yes, It's a Hello No: Maintaining Boundaries
What if the problem isn't that you need better boundaries? What if you're exhausted because everyone around you has adapted to your overfunctioning? In this episode of Right There With You, Cass sits down with executive coach and leadership strategist Kelly Nagel to explore why so many high...
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You Don't Need a New Routine. You Need New Standards.
You're Not Broken. You're Burnt Out. You don't need another planner. Another productivity app. Another morning routine. If you've been trying to optimize your way out of burnout, this episode is for you. Cass sits down with burnout educator and Human Design guide Mel McSherry to unpack why so…
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How to Stop Performing & Start Expressing Your Art
There comes a point where performing for approval becomes more exhausting than simply being yourself. Cass Cooper sits down with filmmaker and creator Aysia Mitchell to explore what happens when you stop optimizing yourself for algorithms, employers, audiences, and strangers—and start creating…
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When the Life You Built No Longer Fits the Future You Want: Burnout, Over-Functioning & Reinvention
What happens when the life you worked so hard to build no longer fits the future you want? In this solo episode, Cass shares a realization that took years to fully understand: burnout got her attention, but it wasn't the whole story. Just weeks after buying her first home, accepting a new...
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What If You Fly? Burnout, Reinvention, and the Myth of the Perfect Career
What if the life you're meant to build doesn't look anything like the one you planned? In this episode of Right There With You, Cass sits down with leadership expert, entrepreneur, and founder of It's Not That Serious, Carrie Hunter, for an honest conversation about burnout, reinvention, and why...
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Healing Isn't Hustle
What if your exhaustion is not a personal failure — but evidence that the pace was never sustainable to begin with? In this episode of Right There With You, Cass Cooper sits down with theologian, storyteller, and community advocate Ciara Jones for an honest conversation about burnout, nervous...
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Let's Talk About Burnout
Hosted by Cass Cooper What if work-life balance was never actually possible? In the premiere episode of Season 3 of Right There With You, Cass Cooper unpacks the pressure of trying to “balance” life inside systems that reward exhaustion, over-functioning, and constant productivity. This episode...
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Season 3 Trailer
A leadership podcast that breaks down burnout, work-life rhythm, and the hidden systems shaping how we work and live. Hosted by Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™, each episode diagnoses real challenges and gives you the clarity to lead through them.
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Look Back At It: 2025 in Review
It’s the end of 2025 and 2026 is “coming in hot,” so Ciarra and Cass take a breath and do what we all say we’re going to do… but rarely actually do: look back at the year with honesty. They unpack the messy mix of grief and growth, the pressure Black women carry to be “perfect,” and how burnout...
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Hell, Whiteness, and the Myth of Punishment: A Conversation with Tamice Spencer-Helms & Brian Recker
What if God was never a punisher—and hell was never the point? In this powerful episode of Right There With You, hosts Cass Cooper and Ciarra Jones sit down with public theologians Tamice Spencer-Helms (Faith Unleavened) and Brian Recker (Hell Bent) to explore how fear, whiteness, and Christian...
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The Male Gaze is NOT Ministry: Feminism, Faith, and the Fight for Sacred Agency
In this episode of Right There With You, Cass and Ciarra tackle the uncomfortable truth: the male gaze is not ministry. From pulpits to platforms, patriarchal theology has long defined what holiness looks like—especially for women and queer folks. Together, they explore how deconstruction,...
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The Price of Peace: What Divorce Taught Me About Boundaries, Burnout and Bank Accounts
Divorce doesn’t just cost money—it costs peace, time, and sometimes, your sense of self. In this solo episode, Cass shares how she spent three years and $60,000 leaving her marriage—and why she would pay it again. Through data, lived experience, and quiet truth-telling, she unpacks what divorce...
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What the SNAP: Food Security, Policy Violence, and White Christian Nationalism
In this punchy, needed conversation, Cass and Ciarra name what’s happening to families when SNAP benefits are paused or cut: systemic policy violence. We reframe how we talk about “violence” in the context of food access, connect the dots between shutdown economics and hungry kids, and call out…
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Your Partner is Your Biggest Career Decision
Weddings, work, and the “soft life.” Cass and Ciarra unpack why your partner may be the most consequential career decision you’ll ever make—and how to choose love that amplifies, not extracts. They dig into emotional labor in cis-hetero dynamics, what’s different in many queer partnerships, and…
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HR is Not Your Friend?: Debunking Workplace Myths About Safety, Trust, and Power
Cass and Ciarra sit down with an HR professional to unpack what HR really does — and what it doesn’t. They explore how to navigate toxic culture, when to go to HR, and how to advocate for yourself without losing your peace. This episode digs into the myths of HR, the reality of workplace power…
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Empathy Culture: Auntie Audre vs. Auntie Brené
Welcome to Episode Two. Cass and Ciarra unpack the tension between Brené Brown’s vulnerability and Audre Lorde’s survival. They explore how empathy culture so often misses the mark for Black women and what real well-being at work looks like when safety isn’t guaranteed. 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra…
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Beyond Survival Mode: Black Women, Burnout, and Forced Career Pivots
Cass and Ciarra open Season Two by tackling burnout, corporate culture, and what it means for Black women to thrive at work. From soft skills as strategy to AI literacy and career pivots as superpowers, this episode blends healing 🌱 and strategy—reminding us that joy and authenticity are...
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Season Two: Black Women and the Business of Being
This season, we’re centering Black women and work — corporate work, creative work, emotional work, and the sacred act of finding rhythm in the middle of it all. 🌿 Cass and Ciarra dive into the realities of Black women thriving in systems not built for us, unpacking the weight of burnout, rising...
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Grief, Growth & the Sacred Detour
Grief, Growth & the Sacred Detour Like most things in life, we started this episode headed in one direction… and then life, in all its realness, rerouted us. This was supposed to be part one of a convo on heteronormativity (don’t worry—we still owe y’all that part two). But grief had other plans....
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Gender, Queerness, and the Myth of Normal
This week, Cass and Ciarra sit down for an unfiltered conversation on heteronormativity, gender identity, and what it means to build intimacy and relationships outside of the boxes we were handed. From first crushes to unlearning shame, they explore how societal expectations around sexuality,...
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Who Encourages the Encourager?
This one’s for the ones holding it all together… and quietly falling apart. In this powerful episode of Right There With You, Cass and Ciarra dig into the real story behind burnout—how it's not just about being tired, but about being overextended in systems that were never meant for us. Drawing...
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Rewriting the Narrative with Lyndsey Hoffman
Hey beautiful humans ✨ We’ve been holding this one close, recording in May, and now it’s time to share it with you. This week on Right There With You, we’re joined by our soul friend and truth-teller Lyndsey Hoffman for an episode we’re calling “Rewriting the Narrative.” Together, we talk about…
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What's Blooming, What's Dying?
We’re getting our hands in the dirt this week—literally and spiritually. Our newest episode of Right There With You is called: “What’s Blooming, What’s Dying: Garden Lessons for Life, Spirit & Sacred Cycles.” In this one, Ciarra (your wise auntie in the garden) and Cass (budding dirt experimenter...
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Perfect Praise? Black Girl Church Recovery
🎙️ Perfect Praise: Black Girl Church Recovery & Spiritual Reclamation is live now! This episode is about the sacred, messy, sometimes painful process of reclaiming your spirit outside of church walls. We get real about shame, queerness, belonging, and what it means to build a spiritual life…
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Soft Places to Land for the 92%
Episode Two is live! 🎙️✨ This one’s tender, bold, and rooted in truth. In this heart-to-heart, we (Cass & Ciarra) dig into the fertile, messy, and magical ground of self-identity, relationships, and what it means to be a Black woman navigating a world shaped by misogynoir and constant…
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From Friends to Mothers
In this first episode, we invite you into the heart of our friendship and the vision behind this series. We talk about what it means to build something from love and transformation—especially as two Black women navigating healing, growth, and the layers of showing up as our whole selves. 🎙️ This...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Right There With You is a podcast for those of us navigating the intersections of work, life, and pressure in real time.
Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™, breaks down what’s actually happening beneath burnout, misalignment, and leadership fatigue. Giving name, language, and permission to move differently.
Each episode focuses on real tensions through expert conversations and real-world insight. We don’t just tell stories—we diagnose what’s not working and reframe how to lead through it.
Here we know that:
Soft skills are not soft. They are infrastructure.
Burnout is a design flaw, not a character one.
Clarity is how we stop surviving chaos and start leading through it.
Join the Community:
✨ Patreon: patreon.com/RightThereWithYou
✨ And Follow Cass: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href=
HOSTED BY
Cass Cooper | The Chaos Whisperer
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Right There With You is a podcast for those of us navigating the intersections of work, life, and pressure in real time. Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™, breaks down what’s actually happening beneath burnout, misalignment, and leadership fatigue. Giving name, language, and permission to move...
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