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Shifting to Ethical Systems
by JERICA Global
This is where leaders, businesses, and investors come together for change that truly matters. We share what we’re learning as critical friends — reflections, lessons, and practices for building systems that are ethical, inclusive, and regenerative.Sometimes it’s hard. Sometimes it’s hopeful. Always it’s worth it!Tune in bi-weekly on Wednesday mornings (CET) for the latest learnings.
Episodes
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#40 Ethical Leadership | Nobody Made It Alone: Dismantling the Self-Made Myth
We love the story of the self-made person. The individual who built something from nothing, through sheer vision and will, owing their success to no one. It is a compelling story. It is also, in every meaningful sense, false. In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Esteban Fernandez...
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#39 Humans at Work | Who Are You Without the Job Title? Leadership, Identity and Love
Do you want to have a meeting, or do you want to have a conversation? Kent Frazier put that to a leader heading into a performance discussion. The reply came by email a week later. Kent joins host Jules Harrison-Annear from Denver for this Humans at Work conversation, part of the special series...
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#38 Humans at Work | Adaptive Leadership: Why One Style Is Never Enough
Postscript moment: Diane White returns to Humans at Work, the special series inside Shifting to Ethical Systems recorded between December 2022 and July 2025, a year on from her first conversation with host Jules Harrison-Annear. She is a Melbourne-based consultant to not-for-profit organisations,...
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#37 Humans at Work | How Boards Reward Short-Term Stunts (And What Long-Term Governance Needs)
A board chair once explained to Melissa Clark-Reynolds, very slowly, that a board is more like cricket and she should stick to her specialist slot. She spent the rest of her governance career avoiding chairs like that. Melissa is a New Zealand futurist, company director and former tech chief...
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#36 Humans at Work | The Seven Generations Test: How to Make Decisions That Outlast Your Term
Jay Naidoo's neighbours had a plan for the baboons: cull the lead males. He heard a human problem answered as an animal one. Jay is a South African elder, a former general secretary of COSATU and a minister in Nelson Mandela's cabinet. In this Humans at Work conversation, part of the special…
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#35 Humans at Work | Understand It, Adopt It, Adapt It: How Boards Should Approach AI and Risk
Craig Pattison grew up in a railway community where every family grew vegetables together and gave them away for free. He has worked in risk, governance and ethical decision-making ever since, still starting from that lesson. Humans at Work is a series inside Shifting to Ethical Systems, recorded...
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#34 Ethical Models | Critical Thinking in the Age of AI: Why People Are Still the Investment
We have more powerful tools than ever. So why do so many leaders seem to trust their own judgement less? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Esteban Fernandez Drovetta asks where intelligence actually lives in an organisation, a project, or an ecosystem. He keeps seeing the same...
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#33 Ethical Investment | Capital That Knows How to Wait: The Conditions That Make Patient Capital Real
Most investors say they are patient. Far fewer have built the conditions that make patience real. In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Esteban Fernandez Drovetta goes past the idea of patient capital and into what it actually requires. Not as a philosophy, but as a set of…
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#32 Humans at Work | Sustainable Value Creation: Why Strategy Should Start With Your Employees
There is a version of strategy that happens in a room with the executive board, and a version that happens with everyone. Jeroen Kraaijenbrink makes the case for the second. Jeroen Kraaijenbrink is a Dutch strategy consultant and the author of The Strategy Handbook. In this Humans at Work...
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#31 Humans at Work | Strategic Thinking Made Simple: How to Stop Circling the Same Decision
Nina Field was asked to write a piece of strategy and had no idea what strategy was. Every experienced person she asked told her something different. That gap became her work. Humans at Work, a special series recorded between December 2022 and July 2025 and now running inside Shifting to Ethical...
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#30 Humans at Work | How to Trust Your Gut in Decision-Making (And Name What You Feel)
Fear is a blunt word. Break it apart and the butterflies turn out to be partly excitement, the dread about letting someone down. Humans at Work is a series within Shifting to Ethical Systems, drawn from conversations recorded between December 2022 and July 2025. In this one, host Jules...
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#29 Humans at Work | Why Every Leader Wears a Mask (And When It Stops Fitting)
Ask a group of senior leaders to introduce themselves and you get the LinkedIn line on autopilot. Ask them to draw it and something unfiltered arrives within minutes. Tom Cotton is a psychotherapist and executive coach in Northwest London who once directed music videos. In this Humans at Work...
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#28 Humans at Work | Conscious Marketing: How to Grow a Business Without Scarcity Tactics
Marketing is part of the problem. That is Claudia Guerreiro's verdict on her own industry, and she nearly left it. Humans at Work gathers the conversations Jules Harrison-Annear recorded between December 2022 and July 2025, now running as a special series inside Shifting to Ethical Systems. Here...
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#27 Ethical Leadership | Rest as Resistance: Why Sustainable Leadership Requires You to Stop
This one will land somewhere uncomfortable for a lot of us: rest as resistance. In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear makes a case for rest that has nothing to do with productivity. Not rest as a hack. Not rest as strategic recovery so you can perform better...
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#26 Ethical Sponsorship | How to Identify Funding Opportunities That Match Your Values and Priorities
When someone offers to pay for the change you're trying to make, what does that actually mean? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear turns to one of the most quietly important skills in ethical business: reading the funding on the table. Money is never…
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#25 Humans at Work | What Your Pension Is Funding While You Sleep (And How to Move It)
Two per cent in BP and Shell. One per cent in tobacco, one in weapons. Dan Sherrard-Smith found all of it in his own pension. Host Jules Harrison-Annear meets Dan in this Humans at Work conversation, the special series recorded between December 2022 and July 2025 and now running inside Shifting…
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#24 Humans at Work | Turning Down Good Money for Work That Matters More
Singapore did not go to plan. The first 21km was a breeze; in the second, something seemed to grab Enver Samuel by the shoulders. Months on, the harder question is what this work is doing to him. This is a postscript: a Humans at Work follow-up inside the Shifting to Ethical Systems series,...
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#23 Humans at Work | How to Fund Work That Matters Without Losing Yourself to It
Some months Enver Samuel is on a cooking show, tasting the bakes so he knows what to ask next. Others are with a family whose parent was killed by the security police thirty years ago. Enver is a South African television producer and director making social impact documentaries about the unsung...
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#22 Humans at Work | The Business Case for Kindness at Work (And Why It Starts With Boundaries)
What happens to the person everyone offloads to? Sophie Bretag spent about fifteen years in HR, seven and a half of them in aged care, watching people hand over what they carried and walk away lighter. In this Humans at Work conversation, a special series inside Shifting to Ethical Systems…
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#21 Humans at Work | Why Unclear Boundaries Get Exploited (And How to Name Power at Work)
Diane White will tell you the croissant voted best in the world is overrated. What she is really interested in is power, and who is willing to name it. Humans at Work is a special series inside Shifting to Ethical Systems, recorded between December 2022 and July 2025, and here host Jules...
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#20 Ethical Leadership | The Art of Saying No: How Boundaries Build Integrity and Trust
Saying no sounds simple. In practice, when opportunities are scarce, relationships feel fragile, and the need for capital is real, it's one of the hardest things ethical leadership asks of us. In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores the art of saying…
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#19 Ethical Leadership | Stubborn or Principled? Why Women Leaders Carry Extra Weight in Decisions
When a woman holds a principle firmly, there's a word that tends to get used. Stubborn. When a man does the same thing, the words are different. Clear. Focused. A strong negotiator. In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores the cumulative weight of small...
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#18 Ethical Leadership | How Small Everyday Decisions Shape the Business You're Building
What if the decisions that shape your business most aren't the big, dramatic ones, but the small ones you make on a tired Tuesday afternoon? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores the power of small decisions, and how everyday choices compound into the...
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#17 Ethical Models | How to Build Ecosystems That Don’t Depend on You
What if the ecosystem you’re building depends too much on you? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Esteban Fernandez Drovetta speaks directly to ecosystem builders — leaders working across organisations, sectors, and communities to create lasting change. Because there’s a common...
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#16 Ethical Projects | The Hidden Cost of “Value for Money” (And What to Do Instead)
What if “value for money” is actually costing more than you think? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Esteban Fernandez Drovetta explores ethical supply chains and the hidden human and environmental costs behind the pursuit of the lowest price. Because the real question isn’t…
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#15 Ethical Models | Why Universal Design Drives Business Growth (Not Just Accessibility)
What if designing for inclusion wasn’t a cost… but a competitive advantage? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores universal design as a powerful business strategy: one that expands markets, unlocks innovation, and creates better experiences for...
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#14 Ethical Investing | Patient Capital vs Traditional Investing: How to Build Long-Term, Resilient Returns
What if the best investment returns don’t come from speed… but from patience? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores ethical investing through the lens of patient capital: a values-based approach that prioritises long-term impact, relationships, and...
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#13 Ethical Leadership | Why Ethical Leaders Feel Lonely (And How to Find Your People)
Why does ethical leadership feel lonely? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores a rarely discussed reality of ethical leadership: loneliness. Not the kind that comes from being alone, but the kind that comes from choosing differently. Choosing...
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#12 Ethical Leadership | How Power Shapes Systems (And How Leaders Can Challenge It Ethically)
What if the biggest barrier to ethical leadership isn’t what we see, but what we’re being distracted from? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores how power protects itself, especially within organisations and systems that aim to create positive change....
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#11 Ethical Leadership | Grief Is Part of the Work: How to Feel, Think & Act with Integrity
What happens when a leader is carrying grief and still has to show up, think clearly, and act with integrity? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores what many systems change leaders quietly carry but rarely name: grief. The grief of watching systems...
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#10 Ethical Investment | How Investors Create Long-Term Value Without Sacrificing Returns
If you’re an investor asking deeper questions about your role in shaping the future, this episode is for you. In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear re-examines ethical investing beyond returns, exits, and scale. Instead, she explores how capital shapes...
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#9 Ethical Models | How Ecosystem Builders Share Power Without Losing Impact
If you’re working across organisations, sectors, cultures, or geographies, you already know this truth: systems don’t shift through one leader or one organisation alone. In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear speaks directly to ecosystem builders. The leaders...
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#8 Ethical Investing | What Happens When Money Stops Being the Centre
What if ethical investing isn’t primarily about money, but about what you’re willing to invest yourself in? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear re-examines ethical investing through a different lens. One that centres time, care, and listening as the real…
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#7 Ethical Projects | How Ethical Consortiums Build Relationships That Outlast the Project
What if the real success of a project isn’t what gets delivered, but what lasts after it ends? As 2026 begins and many leaders are preparing to apply for new grants, partnerships, and collaborations, it’s a good moment to pause and ask this question. In this episode of Shifting to Ethical…
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#6 Ethical Leadership | How Leaders Redistribute Power in Systems That Were Never Built to Be Fair
Where does power really live in our systems, and how often do we benefit from it without noticing? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores ethical leadership through the lens of invisible power. Not the obvious kind that comes with titles or authority,...
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#5 Ethical Leadership | Anchored by Values: Turning Pressure into Purpose
What does ethical leadership look like when everything is under pressure? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores what it means to lead with integrity during times of crisis. Through a personal story from a large-scale transformation program, she shares...
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#4 Ethical Leadership | Listening Beyond Ego: The Quiet Strength of Moral Courage
What does moral courage look like in real life, not the loud, heroic kind, but the quiet, steady courage to lead with integrity? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores what it means to act with moral courage in leadership. Through three reflections...
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#3 Ethical Models | Beyond Silos: Businesses & Nonprofits Collaborating for Systemic Change
What happens when collaboration becomes the bridge between difference and transformation? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear explores how collaboration across sectors, organizations, and ecosystems can shift entire systems toward inclusion, regeneration…
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#2 Ethical Investment | When Finance Serves Life: Impact Investing
What happens when money becomes a tool for stewardship, not extraction? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Esteban Fernandez Drovetta explores how impact investing is reshaping finance through models like steward ownership and profit sharing. Drawing from JERICA Global’s...
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#1 Ethical Leadership | Leadership as Contribution, Not Control
What happens when leadership shifts from holding power to sharing it? In this episode of Shifting to Ethical Systems, host Jules Harrison-Annear discusses the importance of viewing leadership as a contribution rather than from a position of control. Through personal reflections and examples, she...
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Trailer | Shifting to Ethical Systems
Systems don’t shift overnight. They shift when people choose to lead, invest, and design differently. Welcome to Shifting to Ethical Systems, a podcast by JERICA Global. Hosted by co-CEOs Jules Harrison-Annear and Esteban Fernandez Drovetta, this series invites leaders, businesses, and investors…
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This is where leaders, businesses, and investors come together for change that truly matters. We share what we’re learning as critical friends — reflections, lessons, and practices for building systems that are ethical, inclusive, and regenerative.Sometimes it’s hard. Sometimes it’s hopeful. Always it’s worth it!Tune in bi-weekly on Wednesday mornings (CET) for the latest learnings.
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