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Shipping & Handling
by Jennifer Udden and Bridget Smith
Join Bridget Smith of Dunham Literary Inc. and Jennifer Udden of Barry Goldblatt Literary LLC as we discuss books, publishing, writing, fandom, and more!
Episodes
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Episode 79: Sort By Kudos
or: Now Kiss! In which Bridget and Jen talk about Bridget's return to fandom after a decade away, and also have a full meltdown about how long this podcast has been going on. Spoilers for The Magicians from 12:21 onwards Note: Jen's audio is a little off in this because she used airpods like a…
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Episode 78: Fling it Into the Void
In this episode, Bridget and Jen take you through the submission process, talk about publishers decentralizing from NYC post-pandemic, and discuss why that second book is just such a pain in the a** to write. Note: Jen's audio is a little off in this because she used airpods like a dumb dumb, so...
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Episode 77: Vibes Only
In this episode Bridget & Jen critique twitter pitches, discuss Jen's weird hate for movie comps, talk about Ea Nasir's historical perfidious copper sales, and more! Please enjoy the moment at 36:53 where we lose our damn minds. Question topics include New Adult, the essential worker's trauma…
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Episode 76: Do you remember second locations?
Recorded Tuesday, May 18. It's been 84 years dot gif. In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss Jen's new career move, favorite pandemic reads, how deeply weird socializing is going to be post-panorama, and more! Question topics include getting to narrate your own audiobooks, how many rejections…
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Episode 75: Omegaverse is in the New York Times
In which Bridget and Jen discuss copyright law, plagiarism, and why published authors won't read your fic, for legal reasons. Also! Cookbook photography, dead parents in YA, and more! Thanks to this week's donors: Lorna, Lauren, Jared, and MH! Like the podcast? You can support us through a…
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Episode 74: In Plague-Adjusted Terms
In this episode Bridget and Jen talk *waves vaguely* the State Of Things, UK vs ANZ vs US, and how many clients is too many! **ANNOUNCEMENT!!** We'll be answering your questions on a very special Instagram Live session on Thursday, May 7 at 7pm EST! Thanks to this week's donors, Sue, Joy, and...
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Episode 73: The Book Equivalent of a Weighted Blanket
In this episodes, Bridget and Jen talk bad contracts, manuscript requests, how to avoid brown-nosing and more! Thanks to our editor, Cheyna Roth, for her help with this episode! A VERY SPECIAL THANKS to our donor Jessica!!!!! Like the podcast? You can support us through a donation on ko-fi, by...
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Episode 72: I Would Marry These Potatoes In A House Of God
In this episode Bridget and Jen discuss *waves vaguely* The Situation, the Simon & Schuster sale, living with our parents, and cheaply priced Texas ciders. (Hit us up, Austin EastCider!) Thanks to our editor, Cheyna Roth, for her help with this episode! A VERY SPECIAL THANKS to our donors Awesome...
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Episode 71 - I'm In This Picture And I Don't Like It
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss career planning or the occasional impossibility thereof, catch up on thanking donors, and generally continue the discussion from Episode 70! A VERY SPECIAL THANKS to our wonderful backlog of donors! Jenn, Andrew, Lana, Kristen, Joy, Teresa, MH, Cool Shades...
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Episode 70 - It's Been A Long, Long Time
In this episode, recorded on Jan. 22 after a *coughcough* three month involuntary hiatus, Bridget and Jen discuss realistic expectations, the American Dirt fiasco, the RWA fiasco, and picking up the can. Like the podcast? You can support us through a donation on ko-fi, by subscribing to us on...
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Episode 69: Nice :)
In this episode, recorded back in *coughcough* November, Bridget and Jen do an all-questions-all-the-time deep dive into our Tumblr inbox. Among other things we discuss sex in YA, the relative value of an MFA, and disclosure of advances. This episode is so outdated that the RWA is barely an...
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Episode 68: A Simple Village Goose
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss self-care for authors (and agents,) burnout, and give a shoutout to nanowrimo! Thank you to John, this week's donor! Hope you're enjoying IN THE WOODS. CW: In this episode there is a frank discussion of health issues. Please do not send us advice, however...
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Episode 67: Inappropriate Seasons
In which Bridget and Jen discuss the seasons of love er, publishing, query length, POV and tense, and more! Thank you to this week's donors, Kristin and Joy! Like the podcast? You can support us through a donation on ko-fi, by subscribing to us on iTunes, or by leaving a review! We're doing a...
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Episode 66: Money Talks
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss That Article, money in publishing, and asking questions. Thank you to this week's donors, John, Jen, and Lana! Like the podcast? You can support us through a donation on ko-fi, by subscribing to us on iTunes, or by leaving a review! We're doing a survey to...
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Episode 65: Parental Warnings for Swears
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss trigger warnings, author responsibilities, and rapid release scheduling, among other things. Thank you to this week's donors, Alice, Alison, and Alyssa! Thank you also for arranging your names alliteratively. Thank you to Michael for writing in with your...
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Episode 64: Incitement & Stakes
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss inciting incidents, raising the stakes, word count, comp titles, and more! This episode's topic was suggested by John Appel on twitter! Got suggestions for beating writer's block? We'd love to hear them for our next episode! Like the podcast? You can…
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Episode 63: The Slow Realization That Nothing Makes Sense
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss world building- how to do it, what not to do, and examples of when it's done right. Also, typos, covers, and more! This episode's topic suggested by Elyse Martin on twitter. Like the podcast? You can support us through a donation on ko-fi, by subscribing…
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Episode 62: Cool For The Summer
In this episode Bridget & Jen discuss what the F happens in publishing during the summer (spoiler alert: the same thing that happens every other time of the year, except it's warmer), answer reader questions, and talk about HBO's Chernobyl! Fun times! Thanks to Annaka, who donated this week!...
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Episode 61: The belt says "I Love Them"
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss author self-advocacy, navigating cliques, and general author survivalship. Special thanks to our donors this week, L.T., Bridget, and Maria! Discussed in this episode: Lana Wood Johnson - Technically, You Started It Daniel Mallory Ortberg - Texts From Jane...
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Episode 60: U Up?
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss what the heck happened midway through episode 59, what happens when an agent moves agencies, contingency plans for becoming George RR Martin famous, and more! Thanks to this week's donors, Felicity and Debbie! Discussed in this episode: "Sometimes things...
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Episode 59: Things That Matter Except When They Don't
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss awards nominations, six figure deals, how much we love fake dating, Jen's sputtering rage and fascination about Theranos, and more! This is a bit of a silly episode, for reasons that we will be able to tell you about soon, so bear with us if we're a little...
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Episode 58: Pitch Contests, How Does It Work?
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss the merits, drawbacks, and etiquette of twitter pitch contests, talk about when to leave your agent (again??) and the relative usefulness of constant vigilance. Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we mention in this podcast and using…
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Episode 57: Dig Two Graves
In this episode Jen and Bridget discuss SurveyGate, finding the right agenting fit as an author, and more! Thank you to this week's donor, Caroline! Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we mention in this podcast and using our affiliate links (Currently only Indiebound.) You…
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Episode 56: Summarize This
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss synopses, writing on proposal, and how freaking cold it is outside. Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we mention in this podcast and using our affiliate links (below! Currently only Amazon and Indiebound.) You can also support us...
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Episode 55: Stacks Of Cash
In this episode we discuss New Years' Resolutions, Jen's intense desire for compliments, throwing away all your books, and the authors we aren't allowed to discuss anymore. Thanks to our donors: John, March, and Anon!! Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we mention in this...
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Episode 54: Now Kiss!
In this episode Bridget & Jen discuss shipping, the Tumblrpocalypse, and face mites. Happy New Year! Thank you to our donor for this episode, Randee!
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Episode 53: "Damn You, Elon Musk"
In this episode, an update on the nationwide Bevi shortage, Queries & How We Do Them, and a grab bag of questions from across the internet! No new donors at time of recording, but THANK YOU to everyone who has donated & all our listeners! Quote of the episode: "Your brain is an asshole, and you...
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Episode 52: R&R&R
In this episode, Bridget & Jen talk career longevity, branding, R&Rs, and mental health disclosure. Thank you to this week's donors: Marty, Carrie, Julia, and Katie! Listen to the episode here. Like the podcast? You can support us through a donation on ko-fi, by subscribing to us on iTunes, or by...
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Episode 51: Worldbuilding (Go You Huskies)
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss world building likes/dislikes, DM etiquette, and what it means to be tall. Thank you to this week's donors – Martine, Claire, Will, Ally, and Julia! *at one point in this episode, Jen says Mansfield Park when she means Sense & Sensibility. Listen to the...
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Episode 50: Fifty and Fabulous
Like the podcast? Support us by leaving a review, rating us on iTunes, or by using our affiliate links to purchase one of the books you've heard us talk about. NB: Affiliate links not working this week, except for Indiebound. You can also support us through a donation on ko-fi. Thank you to this...
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Episode 49: Fraud! Or, Good Old Fashioned Clownery
In this episode, Bridget and Jen discuss the closing of Lupine Grove Literary and best practices for when your agent turns out to be toxic. NB: Next episode will be our FIFTIETH EPISODE! We will be doing ALL QUESTIONS, ALL THE TIME for this episode, so be sure to get them in before THURSDAY…
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Episode 48: We Should Totally Stab Caesar
In this episode Jen and Bridget discuss art under The Circumstances, the relative futility of the high road, and comfort viewing. Quote: "the smoking rubble of what was once a functioning infrastructure" NB: We recorded this episode in Jen's aunt's apartment, and someone starts vacuuming in the...
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Episode 47: Just Walk Away, Renee (Or: CONTRACTS!)
In this episode we discuss which hills to die on, the dangers of handshake deals, and our (least) favorite contract clauses, as well as general contract dos and don'ts. NB: We realized midway through the episode that we had supporters this week, so the thanks come at the end! Our apologies for…
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Episode 46: An Avalanche of Subtweeting (Or: YA vs Adult)
In this episode Jen and Bridget discuss the differences between YA and adult, sex and violence, and Infinity War. Spoilers for Infinity War abound - see timestamp below if you want to avoid it. Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we mention in this podcast and using our...
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Episode 45: A Day In The Life Or, Go For The Bronze
In which Jen and Bridget discuss their Perfect Days, the nitty gritty of processes, and drink the eight dollarest bottle of wine. Listen to the episode here. Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we mention in this podcast and using our affiliate links (below! Currently only...
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Episode 44: Revision! Or, Resting Villain Face
Jen & Bridget talk about the revision and editing process and the best way to get to "A Faster No." Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we mention in this podcast and using our affiliate links (below! Currently only Amazon and Indiebound.) You can also support us through a...
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Episode 43: Bees! Or, the Submissions Process 101
Jen and Bridget take you through the confusing and splendiferous world of taking a book on submission to editors. Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we mention in this podcast and using our affiliate links (below! Currently only Amazon and Indiebound.) You can also support us...
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Episode 42: Description (Don't do it wrong)
Talkin' bout description, having your characters do things, and the difficulties of imagination. Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we mention in this podcast and using our affiliate links (below! Currently only Amazon and Indiebound.) You can also support us through a…
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Episode 41: Which Is The Best Twirly Bit
In which Jen and Bridget attempt to compare writing to being an olympic figure skater and fail, mostly because neither of them know anything about figure skating (and because they don't want to talk about sexual harassment in publishing.) Like the podcast? Support us by buying one of the books we...
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Episode 40: Professional Jealousy
In which Jen and Bridget discuss professional jealousy, zero-sum agenting, and Jen's feelings about the actor Adam Driver. NEWS: We are starting to share affiliate links for the books we discuss on the podcast. Currently Amazon is the only one set up, but as B&N and Indiebound come online we'll b…
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Episode 39: If You Don't Care What You Call Fine
In this episode we discuss voice, point of view, the seasons of publishing, and answering how we're doing in "Trump-Adjusted Terms," and discover that Jen doesn't know what to call the pluperfect tense (she calls it past-past).
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#SHBookClub Episode 7: Ethan of Athos
"Ethan, you weird sweet goober." Listen to the episode here. In this episode of the Shipping & Handling Book Club (#SHBookClub) we talk about Ethan of Athos by Lois McMaster Bujold. Check out Jo Walton's discussion of the book, "Quest for Ovaries" on tor.com. Next up: Brothers in Arms!
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Episode 38: Nebulastravaganza
In this episode, Bridget and Jen speak to a whole crowd of awesome folks at the 2017 Nebula Awards Weekend, held in June in Pittsburgh, PA. "Come eat things with us, because you are also people." Guests include: Barry Goldblatt, literary agent Jeffe Kennedy, author of the Twelve Kingdoms series...
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Episode 37 - Our Real Feelings
The all-singing, all-dancing, all-questions episode of Shipping & Handling. We discuss sensitivity readers, "write what you know," revision, pitching novels in "dead" genres, and much, much more. ANNOUNCMENT 1: We will be doing another query critique episode! Please email your query (your query...
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#SHBookClub Episode 6 - Cetaganda
In this episode we discuss Cetaganda by Lois McMaster Bujold. Mild spoilers about THE RAVEN BOYS by Maggie Stiefvater also contained therein. (I know.) For next time, we're reading Ethan of Athos! You can listen to the episode here.
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#SHBookClub Episode 5 - The Vor Game
Bridget & Jen read THE VOR GAME by Lois McMaster Bujold as part of the Vorkosigan Saga #shbookclub!
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Episode 36: Sometimes You're Just Gonna Go To Alaska
In this episode we discuss the merits and drawbacks of Having A Plan as a writer. Quote of the episode: Jen: "I wonder what my thing is [that I dislike], besides characters being happy."
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Episode 35: Red-blooded patriotic watersports
In this episode we discuss social media-ing while anxious, the current political climate, amazing rumors, and That Book Deal.
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Episode 34: The Terrorists Are Calling From Inside The House
Well, some shit's happened. In this episode, recorded December 5, 2016, Bridget and Jen discuss Recent Events, election-related depression, cheer-up media, and listicles.
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#SHBookClub Episode 4: The Warrior's Apprentice
Notes for this episode: We realized midway through recording the regular episode that Bridget's mic was turned around, so if she sound tinny that's why.
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