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Sh*tty Pastor's Wives

by Jenny Charli

This will not be "your mother's" polite pastor's wife discussion. Two long time church ministry leaders, going by the aliases Charli and Jenny, talk about everything from how much church can suck to how weird life is when you're expected to be a super human. Whether you are a current or former church leader or participant or are just curious about the underbelly of church leadership culture, you're welcome and safe here. This podcast is NOT for: kids, religious zealots, ultra sensitive church lovers, or people who just aren't willing to accept that church really sucks behind the curtain.

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Episodes

  1. Love, Explain, Prepare for Weirdness

    What's right is logical. Controlling the conviction brings an unbalanced platform for decision. Hell, Hitler, and Homosexuals? Have some coffee, tea, or a glass of wine and be part of this with us- because we love you.

  2. Faux-pression Part II

    The continuation of episode 7. Hugging you!

  3. Faux-pression

    Charli asks Jenny to dig into a topic that confuses the hell out of her. THIS is a good one... no, a GREAT one. Love you.

  4. Do YOU, not everyone else...

    Charli has brief sensory moments and Jenny brings drinks to a kids birthday party. How do you lead someone through deconstruction? We talk about these attempts. And revisit the topic of an old "friend". :) ENJOY YOURSELF! MUCH LOVE.

  5. POWER

    We talk about cutting out half the "competition". We hope you love this listen! We love you!!!

  6. Gags and Gasps

    Jenny and I tear apart two articles that make Jenny gag and gasp. Can't wait for you to listen! Can't wait to hear from you!! MUCH LOVE!!

  7. Can't Justify Why

    We talk about how they get emotional because they can't answer. We've all experienced one or two, I'm sure. Enjoy!! MUCH LOVE!!

  8. SEASON 3 EP 1: Post-Post-Church Life

    "The farther you get away from it I'm just like- so it's just like simple brainwashing." Farther from 'that life' and farther into reality. We talk about the life that is further in the rearview now. Hitting the ground while re-assessing what we hang on to and what is therapeutic to hang on to or...

  9. SEASON 3 EP 2: Don't Stop and I DON'T KNOW WHY!

    Discussing post-church sexuality and shame. How we identify the "science" or ACTUAL logic behind the darkness of exploring sex inside our previous religious beliefs and now; the damper isn't just morality or belief. We go pretty hard in to what religion has left behind for us and where we picked…

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  10. What Position Do You Want Me In?

    "The things that we can’t know are the things that we knew and the things that we knew were the things that we couldn’t trust." Also, Charli gets fired from the pulpit.

  11. Positive not Scapegoat-ive

    Sexual betrayal not to be confused with sexual positivity. I love this one. Short BUT sweet &packs a clarifying punch.

  12. Did You Lie?

    The manipulation of asking questions, how church leadership culture is like a f*ck boy, the missing science of loving on mothers, & mental breakdowns. Oh, how we love you so super a trillion. xo

  13. How Long is it Gonna Take?

    We talk about divorce, talking shit, gaslighting yourself, PROUD NEWS, &being misunderstood. SO MUCH LOVE TO YOU!!

  14. Pickle-y Garden with Round Juicy Tomatoes

    We're BACK! We talk about how even the most well-meaning couple doesn't actually want to live what they preach, the camouflaged shame kink inside of religion, and emotional &spiritual consent. WE LOVE YOU!!! Interact w/us on Twitter or email. xo

  15. LET IT BE (SEASON 2! YAY!)

    WELCOME TO SEASON 2!!!! Why am I washing my face, bible verse porn, perspiration in the form of women, and tone policing the dehumanized. WELCOME BACK WE LOVE YOU!!!! MUSIC: https://uppbeat.io/t/prigida/cosy

  16. She Might Be the Darkest Person You've Ever Met

    We answer another question: How to be a true friend to a pastor's wife? I LOVE THIS ONE!!! ENJOY! LOVE YOU!

  17. CONDITIONAL Friendship &Love

    We answer this question posted by @OurJrneysMatter (who we love). "How do you learn to have healthy friendships after spending so much time in church culture where all of your friendships are church based and not safe? As in, we are your family, but if you question us, disagree, move, have a…

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  18. The Quest of Questions Begins!

    We answer our first listener questions and it’s a doozy. Me AND Jenny’s favorite so far!!!

  19. Personhood &THE BIG BROWN SOCIAL MEDIA BIBLE

    The suspicions confirmed. Conversations meant to continue. Do we even get our own personhood? WE LOVE YOU!!!!!

  20. What House Are You?

    Are we using christianity, prayer, and the bible like a magical world of spells and rituals?- ISH? ENJOY- LOVE YOU!!

  21. This One is For You (The Listener). Here's to YOU! 🥂

    Behind the scenes of Jenny & Charli and us inviting you to be theoretically sitting next to us and how we "LITERALLY" want you to be talking to us. We want you as friends, family, and community by being a part of your healing because you are definitely a part of ours. You mean so much to us and…

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  22. No Angry Men?? 3/12/21

    I show Jenny an article I found that put fire in my brain. Who's allowed to be angry at church?? (This episode was recorded before both of us heard the heartbreaking and devastating news from Atlanta.) music: https://uppbeat.io/t/fugu-vibes/spatial

  23. S3X and Joshua Harris’s Bowling Ball Sized Test*s

    This episode is about sex and the virus of marriage books and purity culture. Prepare yourself for a LOT of inappropriate conversation. The end of this episode touches on Charli's history which may be triggering for some. YAY EPISODE 10!!! We love you enjoy! music:...

  24. 27 Minutes For Empathy Sins and No Stigma

    At 27 minutes long this is our longest episode yet. Jenny talks about empathy and burning bridges and Charli gets caught in the twilight of unforeseen confrontation. ENJOY! music: https://uppbeat.io/t/color-parade/eclectic

  25. The Old School Genders & Jesus Loves Therapy (Charli's favorite so far.)

    Yes, we talk about the religious posture toward genders that we both waded through and how Jesus wants you to get your sh*t together. We love you. music: https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/forgotten

  26. Language Arts

    We talk about 'bad' words and whether or not we're just trying to not be like our parents.

  27. Panic Room & Near Death By Tract

    This episode possibly provides a tiny peek into why we have a "thing" against intimidation and religious idiocy. ENJOY! MUCH love. music: https://uppbeat.io/t/prigida/cosy

  28. TRIGGER WARNINGS & Abuse of Power

    *TRIGGER WARNING* In this episode we talk about some potentially triggering themes. We talk about the inappropriate power of assumed trust in church leadership. People process uncomfortable situations, abuse, and feeling cornered in different ways. We are in a place where we can yell about it,...

  29. Morpheus & Lil Jimmy (Jenny's Favorite so far.)

    Jenny and Charli Discuss the sweat and demons of power trips at church. (This one is Jenny's favorite so far.)

  30. PG Girl & Jean Skirts (Jenny Takes Me Back in Time)

    Jenny tells me about her cutting edge youth group and how to never regret that I didn't go to bible school. Enjoy! music: https://uppbeat.io/t/bath-house/means-a-lot

  31. Ignoring your instincts on what grounds?

    Going in with good intentions and getting trapped with no instincts. Jenny and Charli talk about psychopath leaders herding the cows. Enjoy! music: https://uppbeat.io/t/prigida/cosy

  32. Blue Blocks & No Boundaries

    Can you have a life that's separate from church? ...But really, can you? music: https://uppbeat.io/t/color-parade/eclectic

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

This will not be "your mother's" polite pastor's wife discussion. Two long time church ministry leaders, going by the aliases Charli and Jenny, talk about everything from how much church can suck to how weird life is when you're expected to be a super human. Whether you are a current or former church leader or participant or are just curious about the underbelly of church leadership culture, you're welcome and safe here. This podcast is NOT for: kids, religious zealots, ultra sensitive church lovers, or people who just aren't willing to accept that church really sucks behind the curtain.

HOSTED BY

Jenny Charli

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This will not be "your mother's" polite pastor's wife discussion. Two long time church ministry leaders, going by the aliases Charli and Jenny, talk about everything from how much church can suck to how weird life is when you're expected to be a super human. Whether you are a current or former...

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