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So, Mom...
by Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin
Two Generations, One Story: A Mother and Daughter navigate life's chapters, embracing change and cultivating resilience through the decades.
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What Michael Kong Learned from Building (and Almost Losing) It All
In this episode of So, Mom, Adele and Priscilla sit down with entrepreneur Michael Kong for a candid conversation that spans generations- from his parents' interracial marriage in the 1960s to building a magazine company from the ground up. He shares what it was like to take big risks, navigate moments like 9/11 that nearly changed everything, and keep moving forward through uncertainty. It's a thoughtful, engaging episode about resilience, family, and the stories that shape who we become.
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Rebecca Serle on the Magic of Mothers, Daughters, and Her New Novel Once and Again
Rebecca Serle joins Adele and Priscilla to talk about her new novel Once and Again and the magic—and complexity—of mothers and daughters. The bestselling author shares the inspiration behind the story of three generations of women connected by a mysterious silver ticket that allows one chance to go back and change the past. Together, they dive into family dynamics, forgiveness, and the evolving relationships between mothers, daughters, and grandmothers. Rebecca also reflects on becoming a new mom, how motherhood is reshaping her writing life, and what it means to balance creativity with raising a child. It's a thoughtful, funny conversation about love, regret, and the stories we inherit—and the ones we choose to rewrite.
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Frank & Eileen Founder Audrey McLoghlin on Second Acts and Silver Linings
This week on So Mom, Priscilla and Adele sit down with Audrey McLoghlin, founder and CEO of Frank and Eileen. Audrey shares her journey from engineer to fashion entrepreneur, building a values-driven brand during the 2008 financial crisis, earning B Corp certification in 2020, and launching a $10M giving pledge to support women entrepreneurs. Rooted in her Irish heritage and named after her beloved grandparents, Frank and Eileen, her company blends timeless style with heart, resilience, and a little Irish magic. From navigating economic uncertainty to redefining success on her own terms, this conversation explores entrepreneurship, sustainable fashion, leadership, philanthropy, and the power of building something that truly feels like home. It's thoughtful, inspiring, and filled with the kind of storytelling that lingers long after the episode ends. If you're interested in women founders, career pivots, purpose-driven brands, or the stories behind what we wear, this one's for you. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and review wherever you get your podcasts.
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A Love Letter to Los Angeles with Author Maurene Goo
Award-winning author Maurene Goo joins Priscilla and Adele for a warm, funny, and deeply thoughtful conversation about love, creativity, and finding yourself at midlife. From her adult debut novel One and Only, a love letter to Los Angeles, to her reflections on motherhood and personal style, Maurene shares her stories with heart. Together, they explore writing beyond Young Adult Books and why a full, joyful life does not follow a single timeline. This episode is a cozy, inspiring reminder that growth, romance, and reinvention are always within reach.
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So, Mom: Our 2025 Reading Wrap-Up
In this end-of-year episode, Adele and Priscilla ditch pickleball and dive into what they really love: books. They reflect on the reads that stuck with them in 2025—from quiet, interior novels and morally complicated nonfiction to cozy mysteries, crime thrillers, and a few polarizing literary hits. Along the way, they talk about life, relationships, and why some books stick with you long after you finish them. It's a warm, thoughtful, and funny reading wrap-up full of strong opinions, honest disagreement, and lots of great recommendations for your next book pile.
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Sam Saboura on Wide Legs, Skinny Jeans & Everything in Between
Hollywood stylist, TV makeover expert, and fashion sage Sam Saboura joins Priscilla and Adele for a vibrant conversation about personal style at every age. From denim myths and wide-leg debates to the art of choosing the perfect "third piece," Sam brings equal parts humor, instinct, and insider expertise. He reminds us that the heart of great style isn't following rules—it's choosing pieces that make you feel most like yourself. This episode is an inspiring invitation to dress with confidence, joy, and your own unique flair.
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From Leaf-Peeping to LA "Seasons" — A Cozy Guide To Fall
In this cozy fall episode of So Mom, Adele and Priscilla chat about everything from New England leaf-peeping and LA "seasons" to favorite podcasts, fashion in retirement, and questionable apple recipes. They swap book recommendations, share a few laughs about family quirks, and muse on life's little comforts — all with their signature warmth and humor. It's the perfect listen for your walk, drive, or quiet cup of coffee.
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The "So Mom" Guide to Giving (and Ignoring) Advice
In this episode of So Mom, Adele and Priscilla dive into the messy, funny, and heartfelt world of advice — the kind we give, the kind we ignore, and the kind we wish we hadn't taken. From parenting and generational differences to friendship red flags, self-care, and learning to let go, this cozy conversation feels like chatting with your wisest (and funniest) friends over coffee. Tune in for stories, laughter, and a little life wisdom along the way.
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The Human Side of Dying – A Conversation with Nadia Ammar
This episode of the So, Mom Podcast digs into what a death doula really does and why talking about death doesn't have to be dark or scary. Guest Nadia Ammar explains how she supports people and families at the end of life—helping with everything from emotional conversations and family tension to practical planning and honoring final wishes. The hosts share personal stories about loss and legacy, and the group talks about why preparing for death actually helps you live more meaningfully. The biggest takeaway? Death isn't just a medical event—it's a human experience, and having support, honesty, and even a little humor can make it less overwhelming for everyone.
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Mo'ne Davis - From Little League to Legacy: Mo'ne Davis
Mo'ne Davis joins Priscilla & Adele to reflect on her journey from Little League history-maker to a role model for the future of women's sports. She opens up about growing up in the spotlight, staying grounded through school and friendships, and the importance of inclusion and resilience along the way. Mo'ne also shares her take on the rise of athlete influencers, the challenges of personal privacy in the social media age, and what's next as she gears up for her next chapter in professional baseball. Tune in for an inspiring, down-to-earth conversation that shows just how much joy and possibility the game still holds for her.
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The School Where Startups Begin with Ed Glassman
Priscilla and Adele sit down with Ed Glassman, head of the Center for Entrepreneurial Leadership at Springside Chestnut Hill Academy, to explore how kids from pre-K to high school are building confidence, resilience, and even winning venture funding. From second graders running pop-up shops to teens launching real startups, Ed shows how entrepreneurial thinking can spark creativity, bust myths about who gets to be an entrepreneur, and prepare students for a fast-changing world.
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Setbacks to Comebacks: Student Entrepreneurs Changing the Game
This So Mom student panel spotlights juniors Marlee, Ayana, and June as they share their entrepreneurial journeys. Marlee created an aromatherapy haircare brand to promote natural hair health and confidence, Ayana founded the Sweet Dream Project to decorate pediatric hospital rooms—winning first place in the Eagles pitch competition, and June shifted from a fashion line to envisioning June Academy, a school built on equity and access. Together, they reflect on resilience, passion, and how entrepreneurship has shaped their confidence, academics, and vision for the future
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Abdi Nazemian's Journey: Banned, Beloved, and Like a Love Story
Adele and Priscilla discuss their recent experiences, including Adele's solo writing retreat in Carmel. They welcome author Abdi Nazemian, who shares his journey from Iran to Los Angeles, his educational background, and his experiences at a private boarding school. Abdi discusses his novel "Like a Love Story" and its impact, including its banning in some schools. He also previews his upcoming book, "Exquisite Things," set during the Oscar Wilde trial. The conversation touches on themes of forgiveness, empathy, and the importance of inclusive education.
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Writing, Reinvention, and Resilience with Sarah Mlynowski
Adele Griffin and Dr. Priscilla Sands sit down with bestselling author Sarah Mlynowski, whose books—including the beloved Whatever After series—have captivated young readers around the world. Sarah shares her journey from growing up in Montreal to building a writing career in Toronto, beginning with her early days at Harlequin and the inspiration for her debut novel Milk Run. She reflects on her path through publishing, the power of reinvention, and how storytelling has evolved across her 50+ books. The conversation turns deeply personal as Sarah opens up about the Palisades fire and its profound impact on her family and community. With warmth and honesty, she speaks about the strength found in resilience, and the healing power of connection and creativity.
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A Killer Career (In the Best Way): A Conversation with Michelle Gagnon
Priscilla and Adele start with some Easter reflections before diving into a lively chat with bestselling author and LGBTQ+ youth advocate Michelle Gagnon. Michelle shares her eclectic path—from dancer and bartender to thriller writer—and her ongoing work supporting foster care youth while studying clinical psychology. She also offers insight into her writing process, balancing suspense with humor, and previews her upcoming novel Slaying You, the sequel to Killing Me. An inspiring conversation about creativity, advocacy, and finding your voice.
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Building Belonging with Dr. Jennifer Wells
Priscilla and Adele open the episode with their favorite ways to relax—sound baths for Adele, brisk walks for Priscilla—before welcoming Dr. Jennifer Wells, an expert in higher education and social justice. Dr. Wells defines DEI as celebrating differences to build inclusive communities. She shares insights on supporting those at the margins, balancing student involvement, and offers thoughtful advice for new DEI practitioners. She also speaks to the importance of honoring past movements while continuing to push for progress.
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From Page to Screen: E. Lockhart on We Were Liars
Adele Griffin and Dr. Priscilla Sands chat with bestselling author E. Lockhart about the upcoming Amazon Prime adaptation of her hit novel We Were Liars, premiering June 18. They discuss the creative journey behind the book, the challenges of adapting it for TV, and what it's like to let go and trust others with your story. Lockhart also shares insights from her teaching experience and offers a few great book recommendations.
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Helping Teens Thrive in a Modern World with Dr. Dolly Klock
This week, Priscilla and Adele get real about the ups and downs of parenting—messy bedrooms, teen moods, and all. They're joined by Dr. Dolly Klock, a family medicine doc turned teen health educator, who shares her journey from clinic life to empowering parents and adolescents with better communication tools. They dive into the tough stuff—talking to kids about sex, body image, and how to stay present (but not overbearing) in the age of social media. Plus, you'll walk away with some solid book recs.
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From Spy School to Real Life: Stuart Gibbs on Fatherhood and Resilience
Adele Griffin and Priscilla Sands sit down with bestselling Spy School author Stuart Gibbs to talk about his journey from screenwriting to writing for kids, and how his personal experiences have shaped his work. Stuart opens up about parenting after the loss of his wife and raising his daughter, Violet. They also discuss the role books play in their families, the value of taking risks, and navigating the transition to an empty nest.
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So Many Trends, So Little Time - Parenting in a Modern World
In this episode of So, Mom, Priscilla and Adele dive into trends in education and parenting—from multiple intelligences and SEL to modern ideas like the "anxious generation," the "Let Them" philosophy, and Lighthouse parenting. They stress the importance of thoughtful adaptation over trend-chasing and share personal stories about parenting and writing, all with a focus on balance and intentional connection with kids.
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Calm in the Chaos: Parenting Teens with Mindfulness and Grace with Dr. Marisa Crandall
This episode explores the challenges of parenting adolescents, with a focus on stress management and supporting autonomy. Dr. Marisa Crandall joins the conversation to highlight the importance of parents regulating their own emotions and fostering a safe space for teens to express themselves. She offers guidance on balancing support with independence, practicing mindfulness, and involving kids in household responsibilities. The discussion also touches on the influence of peers versus parents and includes recommended books on adolescent development and mental health.
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Strike, Burn, Repeat: Inside the Creative Spark with Julie Buxbaum
Adele and Priscilla kick things off in their new podcast studio and bond over watching Severance with Adele's son. They're joined by Julie Buxbaum, New York Times bestselling author of YA and adult fiction. Julie and Adele teamed up to write Strike and Burn under the pen name Taylor Hutton. The trio dives into their creative process, the chaos of balancing writing with motherhood, and their love for fierce female characters. Julie also speaks to the importance of giving young readers access to diverse, honest stories that reflect their real-life experiences. It's a fun, honest conversation filled with laughs, real talk, and plenty of bookish joy.
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Pantsing a Perfect Crime With Abbi Waxman
We sit down with acclaimed novelist Abbi Waxman for an engaging and often hilarious conversation about writing, parenting, and creative reinvention. Abbi, known for her witty and heartfelt novels such as Other People's Houses and The Bookish Life of Nina Hill, delves into her journey from advertising copywriter to bestselling author, her upbringing as the daughter of a crime fiction novelist, and how those early experiences shaped her approach to writing. She gives us a few details on her latest creative pivot into mystery-writing, and her upcoming book, One Death at a Time. A must-listen for fans of Abbi's novels, aspiring writers, and anyone seeking inspiration in balancing work, art, and family. . So Mom... is hosted by Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin. Sarah Enni is the executive producer. Shari Reynolds is the Digital Strategist. Olivia Wetherill Lopez is the Social Media Strategy Director. David Boman created our theme song. Find the show at somompod.com, and on Instagram and TikTok at @somompod
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The Myth of Fresh Starts
In this episode, we reflect on the evolving nature of our podcast and dive into how both education and life often fall short of delivering neat resolutions. Originally envisioned as an educational podcast, So, Mom... grew into a chronicle of our family's unconventional journey. We discuss how storytelling became the heart of our podcast, connecting us with listeners through shared experiences. We also dive into how resolutions, both personal and educational, can set us up for failure if we don't have the right tools or strategies. . So Mom... is hosted by Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin. Sarah Enni is the executive producer. Shari Reynolds is the Digital Strategist. Olivia Wetherill Lopez is the Social Media Strategy Director. David Boman created our theme song. Find the show at somompod.com, and on Instagram and TikTok at @somompod
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Capes, Capers, and the Legacy of Play
We explore the legacies passed down through our family, from 19th-century Shakespearean actor Thomas Cooper to modern-day creativity and resilience. We reflect on the joy of storytelling, the importance of play in shaping identity, and how our family's tradition of artistry and expression continues to inspire future generations. . So Mom... is hosted by Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin. Sarah Enni is the executive producer. Shari Reynolds is the Digital Strategist. Olivia Wetherill Lopez is the Social Media Strategy Director. David Boman created our theme song. Find the show at somompod.com, and on Instagram and TikTok at @somompod.
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Thanksgiving: Traditions and Transitions
We reflect on the transitions of adulthood through the lens of Thanksgiving, sharing personal stories about family dynamics, navigating independence, and the evolving parent-child relationship. From holiday traditions to moments of growth, they explore how Thanksgiving bridges the gap between home and life's big changes. . So Mom... is hosted by Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin. Sarah Enni is the executive producer. Shari Reynolds is the Digital Strategist. Olivia Wetherill Lopez is the Social Media Strategy Director. David Boman created our theme song. Find the show at somompod.com, and on Instagram and TikTok at @somompod.
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Tales From the Tip Jar
In this episode, we revisit the years of scraping by, and the strange reality of finally reaching financial security, but still being outsiders among the affluent. . So Mom... is hosted by Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin. Sarah Enni is the executive producer. Shari Reynolds is the Digital Strategist. Olivia Wetherill Lopez is the Social Media Strategy Director. David Boman created our theme song. Find the show at somompod.com, and on Instagram and TikTok at @somompod
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The Little Daddle
In this episode, we share stories of Adele's father—a man whose grand promises were rarely kept. With humor and candor, they reflect on how his turbulent presence shaped their lives and pushed them to create stability and strength in their own ways. . So Mom... is hosted by Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin. Sarah Enni is the executive producer. Shari Reynolds is the Digital Strategist. Olivia Wetherill Lopez is the Social Media Strategy Director. David Boman created our theme song. Find the show at somompod.com, and on Instagram and TikTok at @somompod
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Pedal Forward
In this episode, we reminisce about their military family life, focusing on how constant relocations and challenges, like their time in Panama, taught them adaptability and resilience. They share stories of turning tough situations into growth opportunities and building community, no matter where they were. So Mom... is hosted by Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin. Sarah Enni is the executive producer. Shari Reynolds is the Digital Strategist. Olivia Wetherill Lopez is the Social Media Strategy Director. David Boman created our theme song. Find the show at somompod.com, and on Instagram and TikTok at @somompod
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A Box of Lemons
Welcome to So, Mom...! Adele Griffin and her mother, Dr. Priscilla Sands, share the challenges and joys of moving down the street from one another, after 30 years of living far apart. They share stories of their theater experiences, mother-daughter dynamics, and how moving to Los Angeles brought their families closer together. . So Mom... is hosted by Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin. Sarah Enni is the executive producer. Shari Reynolds is the Digital Strategist. Olivia Wetherill Lopez is the Social Media Strategy Director. David Boman created our theme song. Find the show at somompod.com, and on Instagram and TikTok at @somompod
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So, Mom... Season One Trailer
Welcome to So, Mom... This is the story of Dr. Priscilla Sands, a head of independent schools for more than 40 years, and her daughter Adele Griffin, author of more than 35 books and two-time finalist for the National Book Award. Their story begins with a very young mother and her children enduring a turbulent journey across countless homes as a military family. Through the difficulties and upheavals, theater became their way to carve out joy and stability, offering them a sense of home no matter where they were. They hope opening up about their journey strikes a chord and fosters a sense of connection.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Two Generations, One Story: A Mother and Daughter navigate life's chapters, embracing change and cultivating resilience through the decades.
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Priscilla Sands and Adele Griffin
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