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Stephan Livera Podcast

Join Stephan as he interviews the sharpest economic and technical minds in Bitcoin & Austrian Economics to help you understand how money is changing and evolving. Leading names in the world of Bitcoin join the show to share their insights, whether they are developers, CEOs, economists, authors, analysts and more.

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    Bitcoin Desire Hits 8-Year Low | Michael Sullivan SLP756

    Bitcoin desire sentiment has fallen to an eight-year low, a contrarian signal that historically aligns with market bottoms rather than tops.Michael Sullivan, an engineer and author, applies machine learning to individual X accounts to track granular Bitcoin emotions and moods over time.He examines how entry eras shape lasting narratives, why pro-BIP 110 cohorts show strikingly low conviction, how individual tracking avoids bot pollution, and why boredom plus infighting often mark optimal accumulation zones.Timestamps:01:44 — Conviction Isn't Bullish or Bearish07:05 — Why Individual X Tracking Beats Bots09:53 — Desire Peaks Flag Bull Market Tops11:49 — Bitcoin Desire Hits 8-Year Low16:27 — New Bitcoiners Angriest Right Now21:00 — Bitcoin Entry Era Shapes Your Views Forever?22:48 — BIP 110 Backers Show Strikingly Low Conviction25:33 — Pro-BIP 110 Group Lives in Its Own Bubble28:39 — BIP110 Brigading Creates Fake Consensus31:57 — OGs Optimistic, Plebs Stay Angry37:13 — X Algo Shift Sparks Bitcoin Optimism39:57 — Why Sentiment Metrics Fail for Trading41:55 — Boredom and Infighting Signal Bitcoin BottomLinks: Michael's X: https://x.com/SullyMichaelvanBitcoin Sentiment Weekly on Substack: https://sentimentsully.substack.comMichael’s novel, Blood of the Bourgeoisie: https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Bourgeoisie-Michael-R-Sullivan-ebook/dp/B0FRZTM49YStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    James Check: Spot Buyers Saving Bitcoin Amid Time Pain | SLP755

    Even as ETFs and MicroStrategy sell into weakness, natural spot demand has kept Bitcoin from collapsing in what may be the shallowest bear market on record. The real test now is time pain, the grinding boredom that forces out remaining weak hands after the initial price capitulation.James Check, founder of Checkonchain.com, joins me to break down the current cycle through on-chain data and market psychology. His framework distinguishes price pain from the subsequent time pain that historically marks the true bottom.Checkmate examines why short-term holders flipped into high-conviction buyers, why 53K realized price now acts as a floor, the Pareto distribution among Bitcoin treasury companies, and why most copycat strategies will fail in the months ahead.Timestamps:00:56 — Last Day of Bear Feels Worst03:26 — Time Pain Grinds Out Weak Hands05:53 — Shallowest Bear Market Ever Seen08:53 — Spot Buyers Saving Bitcoin From Zero11:14 — Short-Term Holders Are Now Smart Money15:28 — July Bear Bottom: 8-Method Average18:50 — 53K Realized Price Now the Floor23:00 — Buy Bottom 15% and Just DCA28:30 — The AI Trade30:46 — Bitcoin and Gold Share a Rare Moat35:23 — Will Most Bitcoin Treasuries Fail?37:37 — MSTR's Sale of Bitcoin41:28 — Bitcoin Treasuries Follow Harsh Pareto Rule47:30 — Bitcoin Treasuries Next Cycle49:05 — High-Yield Trap?Links: https://x.com/_Checkmatey_https://x.com/_checkonchaincheckonchain.comhttps://charts.checkonchain.comhttp://newsletter.checkonchain.com/Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack#StephanLivera #StephanLiveraPodcast #Bitcoin #BearMarket #OnChain #Checkmate #TimePain #RealizedPrice #BitcoinTreasury #MarketCycles

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    Bitcoin in Your Signal Chat – Radar’s Bold Move with Seth for Privacy | SLP754

    Radar integrates self-custodial Bitcoin payments directly into Signal's messaging network, eliminating the need for separate apps or custodians when sending value to contacts.Seth for Privacy, from the Cake Wallet team, explains how Radar targets everyday users rather than Bitcoin maximalists by preserving Signal's privacy model while adding instant Lightning-enabled transfers via Spark.The discussion covers seamless account migration from Signal, offline payment receives, wallet risk limits for non-critical funds, and the decision to pursue VC funding through a separate entity.Timestamps:00:49 — Why Messaging & Payments Stay Separate03:34 — Migrate Signal Account Without Losing Data08:18 — Send Bitcoin Instantly With One Tap10:10 — Receive Payments Completely Offline11:40 — Bitcoin for Everyone, Not Just Bitcoiners14:21 — Don't Put Life Savings in Hot Wallet17:10 — Signal Can't See Your Bitcoin Payments19:13 — Donating Monthly to Signal Foundation22:48 — Radar Takes VC Path Unlike CakeLinks: Radar Chat: https://radar.chat@SethForPrivacy: https://x.com/sethforprivacyCake Wallet: https://cakewallet.comStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Dan Gould: Payjoin DevKit Ships and Breaks Common Input Ownership | SLP753

    Payjoin delivers transaction batching driven by real economic activity rather than waiting for pool participants, while also cutting fees through direct net settlement between counterparties.Dan Gould, maintainer of Payjoin DevKit, explains how the new async protocol and oblivious HTTP relay change what is practical for mobile wallets today.The conversation covers current live deployments in Bull Bitcoin and Cake Wallet, remaining fingerprinting heuristics beyond common input ownership, the multi-party roadmap, and how developers can integrate the library with under ten thousand lines of code.Timestamps:00:00 — Payjoin DevKit01:46 — Live Payjoins in Wallets Today04:25 — No Waiting for Batch Pools06:14 — Payjoin Works on Mobile Phones08:29 — Oblivious HTTP Hides Your IP10:05 — Fingerprinting Still an Issue?14:02 — Net Settlement Saves Big Fees15:36 — Multi-Party Payjoin Roadmap17:10 — Build Payjoin in a WeekendLinks: https://x.com/brian_trollz/status/2069465912143749462 https://github.com/payjoin/payjoin.org/pull/143 https://payjoindevkit.org/ https://x.com/bitgouldStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Fedimint in South Africa: Zero Fees & Community Custody | SLP752

    A South African circular economy is already running real payments on Fedimint with seven guardians on Start9 boxes. Users send eCash with zero fees inside the federation and feel the same simplicity as Wallet of Satoshi—except the custody is local and the privacy model is different.Hermann and Joshi explain how non-technical guardians set up 5-of-7 multisig, how the Conduit wallet hides complexity, and why Fedimint beats Liquid on on-chain integration and local trust. They also cover Lightning gateway economics and why small federations may beat one global Spark.Bitcoiners exploring Lightning, eCash privacy, and circular economies in emerging markets should listen.Key Takeaways:Seven-guardian 5-of-7 multisig on Start9 now runs daily in South Africa with high reliability.Users inside the same federation enjoy true zero-fee eCash transfers.Conduit wallet offers a lighter, payments-focused alternative to Fedi with regional QR support.Migration between federations is smooth with parallel running and user-controlled timing.Fedimint severs the transaction graph for privacy while Liquid hides amounts but retains the graph.Local guardians reduce the “custodial guilt” felt when onboarding users to foreign services.Lightning gateways can become profitable side businesses with only a few hours of monthly work.Geographic spread of guardians improves resilience against local internet or power outages.Onboarding still requires one extra step—joining the federation—after app install.Fedimint is on-chain native, allowing direct receive and send without intermediate swaps.Timestamps:00:00 - Fedimint Goes Live in South Africa01:48 - Magic: Pay Across Africa04:15 - Onboard Users Without Custodial Guilt08:08 - Zero Fees Shock Rural Users11:04 - Liquid vs Fedimint Privacy Showdown13:32 - Many Small Federations Or Global Spark16:09 - Non-Techies Run Bitcoin Guardians Easily18:14 - 5-of-7 Multisig Survives Two Failures20:53 - Fedimint QR Is a 5-of-7 Multisig24:05 - Gateway: Profitable Hobby in Hours/Month31:06 - Trust Locals Over Anonymous Custodians34:55 - Spread Guardians to Survive OutagesLinks: Bitcoin Ekasi: https://bitcoinekasi.orgFedimint: https://fedimint.orgConduit Wallet: https://joschisan.github.io/conduit/SLP651 with Eric & Joschi: https://stephanlivera.com/651Follow Hermann: https://x.com/vryfokkenouFollow Joschi: https://x.com/joschisanbtcStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Quarterly Self-Custody Update - Q2 2026 with NVK | SLP751

    In this episode,  NVK rejoins me to discuss the latest developments in Bitcoin self-custody, hardware wallets, and privacy solutions, providing valuable insights for enthusiasts and practitioners alike.Timestamps:00:00 Quarterly Self-Custody Update01:28 Sparrow Wallet Update & Silent Payments05:41 Coldcard MK5 & Recent Firmware Updates07:53 The Evolution of Co-signing & MuSig211:58 Liana & Nunchuk Wallet Updates17:16 Cove, BlueWallet & Mobile Wallet Progress19:09 BitKey V2 & Pragmatic Self-Custody22:55 Open Hardware Wallet Project Updates27:15 Merchant Payments & Bitcoin Commerce31:19 Stable Balance Wallets & Self-Custody36:38 Hardware Wallet Security Updates39:07 ARCA: Personal Data Haven ExplainedLinks: Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    The First Stratum V2 Block: What It Means for Bitcoin Mining | SLP750

    In this episode, Alejandro De La Torre, CEO of @DMND_Sv2, joins me to discuss the mining of Bitcoin block 955,318 — the first known Stratum V2 block on mainnet.We break down what happened, the benefits of Stratum V2, how it improves efficiency and we talk about SV2 adoption more broadly.A great episode for anyone who wants to understand where Bitcoin mining is heading.Timestamps:00:00 The First Stratum V2 Block: What Happened?01:08 How Does Miner Transaction Selection Change Bitcoin Mining?01:58 Can SV2 Mining Pools Still Reject Blocks Though?03:19 Can Miners Easily Switch Pools with Stratum V2?04:45 Major Mining Pools Joining the Stratum V2 Working Group05:40 Hardware & Firmware Support for Stratum V207:43 Is Miner Interest in Stratum V2 Growing?09:00 The Biggest Benefits of Stratum V2 for Miners10:21 How Does DMND's SLICE Payout System Compare to FPPS?11:50 What Needs to Happen for Stratum V2 to Become the Standard?13:21 Should Miners Start Building Their Own Block Templates?Links: Alejandro’s announcement post: https://x.com/bitentrepreneur/status/2070131040992035235DMND Pool: https://www.dmnd.workAlejandro on X: https://x.com/bitentrepreneurStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Bitcoin Treasury Stocks: Sentiment or Structure? Deep Dive with Adrian Morris | SLP749

    In this episode, Adrian Morris joins the show to discuss Bitcoin Treasury Companies. We explore whether MSTR and STRC are over, sustainable mNAV premiums, the impact of leverage, the right way to calculate mNAV, how many such companies can realistically exist, and how this space evolves through bull and bear markets.Timestamps:00:00 What are Bitcoin Treasury Skeptics Getting Wrong?03:55 Is it over for STRC? Par vs Peg06:30 The level of correlation to Bitcoin price07:10 Critiques of STRC marketing?09:02 Market Dynamics and Bitcoin Correlation10:50 Should Strategy Do Something About STRC?13:55 Is it a waiting game?14:40 Is the bitcoin treasury risk mispriced? When is a premium justified?19:26 Leverage or Amplification embedded in the structure24:10 Operating or Financing Flows to Get Bitcoin?26:15 mNAV29:12 Thoughts on CEBE Analysis32:30 Different forms of mNAV36:12 Sentiment’s role is amplified40:32 “Just Tread Water and Survive Until the Bull”42:47 Will the Correlation to Bitcoin Price increase over time?46:18 Growth Opportunities: Mergers and Acquisitions 48:23 The Bitcoin Treasury Model - How Replicable is it?51:50 Where are we in this cycle?53:42 AI Analysis: Tools and Techniques for Investors58:55 Is AI being overbuilt? 1:01:40 Open Weights and Local AI?Links: Adrian on X: https://x.com/_AdrianTrue North: https://tnorth.com/Bitcoin For Corporations: https://bitcoinforcorporations.com/Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Silent Payments as the next step forward | SLP748

    In this episode, Craig Raw returns to discuss Sparrow’s Silent Payments and Frigate integration, where multisig UX stands in 2026, his thoughts on building Bitcoin wallet software solo, and the ongoing challenges of distribution and platform risk.We discuss:Silent Payments and their impact on privacy and UXPlatform risks and the importance of pragmatic developmentStandards and interoperability in Bitcoin walletsThe future of multi-sig UX and hardware wallet supportCryptographic innovations like Frigate for scalable scanningTimestamps:00:00 - Intro and Apple’s Walled Garden05:30 - Pragmatism in Bitcoin06:30 - Silent Payments: A New Era for Bitcoin Transactions08:40 - Biggest Challenge in Bitcoin Privacy today12:03 - Why Address Re Use is so prevalent today13:40 - Contrasting Silent Payments and Lightning Address16:00 - The Benefits of Silent Payments Far Outweigh Incremental Complexity19:00 - The Future if the Bitcoin Community Doesn’t Move on this22:45 - Privacy vs Convenience25:40 - Putting SP and Lightning Address together28:30 - The Scanning Challenge for SP and Frigate37:20 - Hardware Reqruirements for Frigate41:00 - Can Hardware Wallets Support SP?49:55 - Bitcoin Multi Sig in 202651:30 - Craig on Miniscript use - Inheritance, Timelocking53:20 - Miniscript refresh privacy concern55:30 - Miniscript for managed solutions59:00 - Multi Sig Quorum Registration1:01:00 - Mixed Vendor Multi Sig setups1:04:00 - Wallet Labelling BIP1:06:44 -  Bitcoin Adoption: Balancing Purism and Pragmatism1:09:00 - What to do about bad regulations or laws? 1:12:00 - Could Government Target Silent Payments?1:13:39 -  Sustainability of Sparrow Wallet DevelopmentLinks: https://x.com/SparrowWallethttps://x.com/CraigRawsparrowwallet.com Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    RailsX: Yield for LPs & Seamless BTC-Stable Swaps | SLP747

    In this episode, Jesse Schrader (Jestopher), CEO of Amboss, joins us to break down RailsX — their new Lightning-native DEX.We discuss:🔸How traders and liquidity providers use RailsX🔸The costs and benefits for both sides🔸Current Lightning routing volumes and growth trends🔸The state of Lightning yield and how it compares to other players🔸The recent BitGo Lightning Earn partnership🔸A quick update on Magma🔸A high-signal look at where Lightning yield, stablecoins, and institutional adoption are heading.Timestamps:00:00 - What is RailsX? Taproot Assets on your LN node01:09 - The trader end user POV02:45 - USDT by @speed_LN03:50 - What are the trading fees? Trade sizes?06:20 - Liquidity provider POV08:00 - DIY or managed service?09:20 - How much yield do liquidity providers get?10:37 - BitGo Lightning Earn partnership11:23 - The state of Lightning yield today and lightning activity12:37 - Update on Amboss Magma - Liquidity Leasing15:10 - Lightning Volume is Growing Even in a Bear MarketLinks: https://amboss.space/https://amboss.tech/railshttps://amboss.tech/magmahttps://x.com/Jestopher_BTCStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    The Fight to Protect Bitcoin Self-Custody in South Africa with Ricki Allardice | SLP746

    In this urgent 15-minute conversation, Stephan speaks with Ricki Allardice, one of the leaders of the Property Rights Defense Group, about South Africa’s Draft Capital Flow Management Regulations 2026 — the most serious threat to Bitcoin self-custody the country has seen.Ricki breaks down exactly what the draft rules would do to private keys, self-custody, and everyday Bitcoiners, where the process stands right now, and what the community can still do before the 30 June 2026 public comment deadline.Timestamps:(00:00) - Overview of the Regulation Against Self Custody(04:07) - Public Consultation Process (05:49) - Can it be challenged?(07:20) - It’s About Capital Controls(08:02) - AML, Sanctions, FATF (10:46) - What does it mean for Bitcoiners in South Africa?(12:22) - Safety or Security concern here?(14:22) - Call to Action and Support for Legal DefenseLinks: Site: propertyrightsdefense.orgX: https://x.com/PRDG_ZA Donate: https://btcpay386617.lndyn.com/apps/4TcSxV6dNFYzb1DBDthPL89Tjz72/crowdfund?ref=propertyrightsdefense.org Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  12. 729

    Using Bitcoin to Change the World: UHNW Philanthropy, Stewardship & Generational Legacy w/ Matt McClintock & Alla Futterman (Bespoke Group) SLP745

    Matt McClintock (Founder & CEO of Bespoke Group) returns to the show alongside Alla Futterman (Associate Client Relationship Manager & Head of Philanthropy Operations) fresh off his main-stage talk at BTC Prague 2026 titled “Using Bitcoin to Change the World.”In this deep dive, we explore how ultra-high-net-worth Bitcoiners and their families are moving beyond simple HODLing to become active stewards — deploying Bitcoin through sophisticated, values-aligned philanthropy to solve real problems (landmine clearance, human trafficking recovery, wildlife protection, cultural preservation, and more).We unpack Bespoke Group’s “Wealth Operating System,” sovereign estate planning for bearer assets, tax-efficient giving structures, next-gen involvement, the mindset shift from ownership to “this wealth has been entrusted to me,” and practical advice for Bitcoiners at every level who want their capital to outlive them and actually improve the world.If you’ve ever wondered how to turn Bitcoin conviction into lasting generational impact while keeping sovereignty and privacy intact, this is the episode.Timestamps:(00:00) - Introduction to Bitcoin Philanthropy(06:38) - Tax-Efficient Philanthropy Strategies(13:07) - Charitable Structures for Bitcoin(20:22) - Mindset Shifts in Bitcoin Philanthropy(27:22) - Wealth Stewardship and Bitcoin(32:13) - Challenges in Bitcoin Philanthropy(37:23) - Engaging the Next Generation in Philanthropy(39:49) - Practical Tips for Everyday Bitcoiners  Links: Bespoke Group → https://bespokegroup.io/Matt’s article: “How Bitcoin Wealth is Changing the World” (June 2026)Alla’s article: “Philanthropy as Wealth in Motion”https://x.com/mcclintock_mStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Bitcoin Passports: How to Rank Countries for Bitcoiners | SLP744

    In this episode, we sit down with Adam Juchniewicz of Bitcoin Passport Index and Bitcitizen to discuss Bitcoin sovereignty, jurisdictional arbitrage, and how Bitcoiners should think about second passports and residencies.We dive into the Bitcoin Passport Index, why Bitcoin-friendly tax and legal treatment matters more than most people realize, and how the landscape for citizenship and residency programs is rapidly changing.Adam also breaks down his fast-track Vanuatu citizenship program and his full-service approach to helping Bitcoiners build a proper sovereign stack — from companies to passports to, in some cases, full exits.Timestamps:(00:00) - Bitcoin Passport Index(03:21) - How do you balance mobility against Bitcoin sovereignty?(05:45) - How will CARF and global reporting change the game?(08:41) - Vanuatu CBI program(11:17) - Vanuatu compared with cheaper options like Sao Tome and Principe?(13:27) - “citizen, not tourist” approach(14:55) - Final advice for BitcoinersLinks:Bitcoin Passport Index: https://bpi.21cbi.ioBitcitizen: https://www.bitcitizen.ioVanuatu Citizenship Program: https://cbi.vuStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Bark Goes Mainnet with Steven Roose | SLPfast 743

    Steven Roose (CEO of Second) rejoins me to explain Bark going live on Bitcoin’s main net. Timestamps:(00:00) - Bark mainnet launched on June 9th(02:01) - Bark and Lightning onboarding(03:30) - Ark compared to Lightning — replacement or teammate?(04:15) - User experience with Bark(05:54) - Developer experience with Bark SDK(08:04) - Barkd for merchants and services(08:56) - Dev tooling and VTXO Inspector(10:40) - What's the current status of adoption and what's coming next?Fees? (13:25) - Tx type overviewLinks:https://second.tech/https://x.com/stevenroose3 https://x.com/secondhqStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    The Evolution of Bitcoin Mining with NG Zhang SLP742

    In this episode, NG Zhang, founder and CEO of Canaan Inc., shares his journey in Bitcoin mining technology, from early ASIC development to modern innovations like heat reuse and energy integration. We talk about the evolution of mining hardware, industry trends, and future prospects.Timestamps:(00:00) –  Intro and Early Days of Bitcoin Mining(03:40) –  From FPGA to ASIC Technology(06:22) –  The Avalon A16 Series(09:07) –  Reliability and Durability of Mining Machines(12:15) –  Failure Rates and Useful Life(14:40) - Primary Market and Secondary Market for Mining(16:40) –  Small Scale vs. Large Scale Mining(22:00) - What % is home mining today?(23:00) - Heat Recovery(29:00) - Different methods of cooling in Bitcoin Mining(31:40) - Mining machine form factor(32:40) - Stratum V2 Support?(37:35) - Market Dynamics: Public vs. Private Miners(39:50) –  Energy Grid Integration and Bitcoin Mining(44:25) - Efficiency gains are slowing down in bitcoin miningLinks: https://www.canaan.io/Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Will Cole, Chris Seedor, Nathan Day, Philipp, Skot9000, Alex Bragin at BTCPrague 2026 | SLP741

    In this episode, I caught up with Will Cole from Zaprite, Alex Bragin (Jan3), Nathan Day from BTCMap, Philipp (Satora), and Skot 9000 (BitAxe/SHA256) while at BTC Prague 2026.Timestamp:(00:00) – Interview with Skot9000 of (SHA256)(09:01) – Interview with Alex Bragin of JAN3 (20:35) – Interview with Will Cole of Zaprite(28:45) – Interview with Philipp of Satora.io(39:33) – Chris Seedor of Seedor.io(46:23) – Nathan Day of BTCMapLinks: Philipp: https://x.com/bonomatChris: https://x.com/coinjoined Will Cole: https://x.com/willcoleAlex: https://x.com/BraginRightsSkot9000: https://x.com/skot9000Nathan Day: https://x.com/nathan_dayJAN3: https://x.com/JAN3com BTCMap: https://x.com/BTCMapSatora: https://x.com/satora_ioZaprite: https://x.com/ZapriteAppSHA256: https://x.com/sha256Seedor: https://x.com/seedor_ioStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  17. 724

    Freedom Tech Summit + BCD 2026 | SLP740

    In this episode, industry experts discuss the latest developments in Bitcoin treasury strategies, Lightning Network innovations, and market outlooks amid macroeconomic uncertainties. Gain insights into hardware wallets, stablecoins, and the future of Bitcoin adoption.Timestamp:(00:00) – Interview with Freddie New from BHODL(08:47) - Interview with Nick Farrow from Frost Snap(21:27) - Interview with Tony Klausing from Stable Channels(26:41) - Interview with André Dragosch from Bitwise(39:35) - Interview with Sam Callahan from Oranje BTCLinks: https://x.com/freddienewhttps://x.com/UTXOClubhttps://x.com/tonklaushttps://x.com/Andre_Dragoschhttps://x.com/SamCallahStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Can You Actually Earn on Lightning? With Chris Ritter | SLP739

    In this episode, Chris Ritter joins me to discuss Lightning Network economics, yield opportunities, network centralization, and the rapid growth of Lightning payments. We explore who captures value in the Lightning Network, security considerations for routing nodes, and what recent data reveals about the future of Bitcoin payments.Timestamp:(00:00) – Introduction to Lightning Economics(04:23) – Understanding Bitcoin Treasury Strategies(09:08) – The Evolution of Lightning Network Routing(14:45) – Growth and Volume in the Lightning Network(19:57) – Centralization Trends in the Lightning Network(25:08) – Security Considerations in Lightning Routing(29:18) – Yield Generation in Lightning Network(35:05) – The Future of Payments and AI in Lightning(41:34) - Closing ThoughtsLinks: https://zeusln.com/https://freecritter.xyz/https://x.com/ZeusLNhttps://primal.net/freecritterReport: https://zeusln.com/Lightning_Economics_Report_April_2026.pdf Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe

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    Can Bitcoin Become Easier Without Becoming Custodial? With PakoVM | SLP738

    In this episode, PakoVM joins me as we discuss the security challenges facing Bitcoin users, from scams and self-custody risks to the trade-offs of convenience versus sovereignty. The conversation explores emerging Bitcoin protocols such as Ark and Spark, the role of Linux and open-source hardware, advancements in wallet design, privacy, inheritance planning, and whether stablecoins and Bitcoin-native financial infrastructure can accelerate global adoption.Timestamp:(00:00) – Introduction (05:24) – Navigating Scams in the Bitcoin Space(10:16) – The Rise of Linux and Desktop Alternatives(15:18) – Bitcoin Technology: Lightning, Ark, and Beyond(30:27) – Bridging Traditional Finance and Bitcoin(35:10) – Bitcoin as a Medium of Exchange vs. Store of Value(39:22) – Stablecoins and Their Role in Bitcoin Ecosystem(41:50) – Wallets and User Experience in Bitcoin Transactions(44:23) – Community Perspectives: Bitcoin Only vs. Multi-coin(46:14) – Global Perspectives on Bitcoin Adoption(50:17) – Future of Bitcoin Technology and User Adoption(01:02:18) – Privacy Solutions and User Experience in Bitcoin(01:08:21) – Closing thoughtsLinks:https://x.com/PakoVMhttps://blog.bitbox.swiss/en/transferring-bitcoin-without-actually-moving-it-explaining-how-statechains-work/https://pakovm.substack.com/p/ark-and-the-train-analogy-a-guide Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  20. 721

    Sigbash: Covenant-Like Policies on Bitcoin Without a Soft Fork with Arbedout | SLP737

    In this episode, Stephan sits down with Arbedout to explore one of the most debated technical topics in Bitcoin today: covenants, vaults, and the future of Bitcoin custody infrastructure.They discuss why many people may be misunderstanding where the real demand for covenants comes from, and how covenant-related features could improve Bitcoin self-custody through vaults, spending limits, recovery mechanisms, and more secure long-term storage setups.The conversation also explores Bitcoin adoption, conviction, long-term store of value dynamics, and the psychological challenges of holding Bitcoin through volatility.Timestamp:(00:00) – The privacy problem with co-signing today(03:25) – What does Sigbash allow us to do?(08:15) – What is Oblivious Signing? (12:20) – Privacy, Regulation, and Reducing Multisig Honeypot Risks(15:10) - What does Sigbash use look like in practice? Inheritance, Vaults, and Multisig(19:50) - Can the server grief the user?(21:10) – Mobile Wallets, Assisted Self-Custody, and NeoBank Possibilities(25:50) - Sigbash project and product(28:29) – Sigbash vs PIPES vs BinoHash Explained(33:01) – Covenant Demand, Bitcoin Security, and the Future of Self-Custody(36:33) – Closing ThoughtsLinks: https://sigbash.com/https://x.com/arbedoutStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Unlocking Bitcoin Exposure Through Real Estate | Sovana Explained | SLP736

    In this episode, Sanjay Mavinkurve and Chase Palmieri join me to discuss Sovana, a groundbreaking product that allows property owners to leverage their real estate equity to gain Bitcoin exposure without traditional debt. They explore the product's mechanics, target audience, market timing, and future potential, providing insights into how real estate and Bitcoin markets intersect.Timestamps:(00:00) - Introduction(02:50) - The Problem with Home Equity and Bitcoin(06:38) - How Sovana Works(11:10) - What if Bitcoin is down in 5 years?(14:55) - Is this only for people who are already HODLers?(17:25) - Why TradFi can’t ignore Bitcoin anymore(19:17) - Would a 10 year period be possible in future?(26:35) - Comparing Sovana to Traditional Financing(29:05) - What about Capital Gains taxes?(32:55) - Real Estate vs. Bitcoin Performance(39:37) - Bridging the Gap: Conviction and Capital(47:55) - Closing ThoughtsLinks: https://x.com/SovanaHQhttps://x.com/sgmavinkurvehttps://x.com/chasepalmierihttps://www.sovana.io/Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  22. 719

    Coldcard Mk5, quantum, and AI with NVK | SLP735

    In this episode, we explore the latest in Bitcoin security with NVK, including the new MK5 device, firmware updates, and the impact of AI and quantum computing on crypto security. We discuss practical tools, philosophical debates on self-custody, and future tech trends.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro (00:21) - What’s new with @COLDCARDwallet?(04:05) - Miniscript support in Coldcard(09:48) - Thoughts on Bitkey(17:49) - @bisq_network protocol exploit(23:17) - Debunking the quantum FUD(29:51) - nvk on AI & LLMs(37:54) - llm-wiki(45:38) - Practical guides for using AI agents(52:03) - Closing thoughts Links: https://x.com/nvk https://bitcoinquantum.space https://learntoprompt.org/   https://llm-wiki.net/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  23. 718

    Why funding open source is NOT philanthropy with Pavlenex | SLP734

    In this episode, Pavlenex joins Stephan to discuss the strategic importance of funding open source in the Bitcoin ecosystem. They explore how open source support benefits companies, the stages of open source project development, and recent updates on Stratum V2 and BTCPay Server.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:09) - Open source is not philanthropy(05:07) - Reaction to MARA Foundation’s initiative(06:40) - Stages of open source projects(11:51) - The necessity of economic incentives(16:42) - AI's impact on open source contributions(19:48) - “Upstream decisions, downstream impact”(24:33) - Open source as a complement to R&D(28:46) - Navigating corporate funding & control(31:14) - Identifying & supporting the right projects(35:56) - Directed grants vs Open grants(39:55) - The importance of supporting open source(42:41) - Updates on Stratum V2(47:02) - Updates on BTCPay Server(48:47) - What is the Samrock protocol for BTCPay?Links: https://x.com/pavlenex https://x.com/pavlenex/status/2049122238033531339 Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  24. 717

    BTC Prague 2026 with Matyas Kuchar | SLP733

    In this episode Stephan speaks with Matyas Kuchar, co-founder of BTC Prague, about the upcoming Bitcoin conference in Prague. They discuss the conference's focus on Bitcoin and its intersection with other technologies like AI, the regulatory landscape in Europe, and the community divides within the Bitcoin space. Matyas shares insights on the importance of self-custody, the challenges posed by CBDCs, and the need for a united front in the Bitcoin community. The discussion also touches on the influence of institutional investments on Bitcoin adoption and the value of self-custody. Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:18) - What to expect from BTC Prague?(06:10) - The Intersection of AI & Bitcoin(10:41) - Rise of surveillance state & importance of Bitcoin(16:07) - CBDCs in Europe and regulatory challenges(19:30) - Community divides in Bitcoin(25:59) - The different types of conference attendees at BTC Prague(29:58) - The value of in-person connections(34:40) - Strategy’s influence on Bitcoin adoption(40:20) - Why attend BTC Prague?Links: https://x.com/Matyas44Cook https://x.com/btcprague Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  25. 716

    The Physics of Bitcoin with Giovanni | SLP732

    In this conversation, Giovanni Santostasi discusses his new book 'The Physics of Bitcoin' and the application of power law analysis to understand Bitcoin's growth, value, and long-term behavior. The conversation covers the scientific basis of Bitcoin's patterns, the significance of power laws in natural and social systems, and how this framework challenges common narratives about exponential growth.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(02:14) - Why write 'The Physics of Bitcoin'?(06:18) - The significance of Bitcoin’s Power Law (10:28) - Bitcoin's growth: Power law vs Exponential models(21:41) - The nature of Bitcoin as a network effect(29:46) - How would bitcoin’s power law be falsified?(37:30) - Bitcoin’s price floor(41:35) - Can it break to the upside?(43:14) - Will Bitcoin hit a saturation point?(52:51) - Sustainable nature of Bitcoin's growthLinks: https://x.com/Giovann35084111http://thephysicsofbitcoin.com https://scientificbitcoininstitute.org/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  26. 715

    There's Hope for Bitcoin with James Van Straten | SLP731

    In this episode, Stephan Livera chats with James Van Straten, senior analyst at CoinDesk, to explore the current state of Bitcoin and macro markets. They discuss the nature of bear markets, cycle theories, technical indicators, institutional behavior, and macroeconomic influences affecting Bitcoin’s price and sentiment. Takeaways:🔸James shares his perspective on Bitcoin's bear market versus previous cycles🔸Debunking the four-year cycle hypothesis and its implications🔸The significance of institutional demand and holder behavior in market bottoms🔸Technical analysis tools like realised price and 200-week moving average support🔸The impact of macro events, such as geopolitical conflicts and macroeconomic trends🔸The role of options markets, liquidity, and sentiment indicators during downturns🔸The importance of dollar-cost averaging through bear markets for long-term gains🔸Insights into emerging Bitcoin treasury strategies and product offerings like STRC🔸How industry players are raising capital even in challenging market conditions🔸The potential for demand recovery and signs of green shoots in the current environmentTimestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:40) - Is this bear market different?(02:48) - Does James believe in the 4-year cycle?(07:32) - Realised BTC price & 200WMA(13:13) - Total BTC supply in profit(17:22) - Long-term holder supply (19:20) - UTXO Realized Price Distribution (URPD)(25:00) - Bitcoin’s performance during the US-Iran war(29:49) - Strategy’s massive BTC purchase using STRC(36:31) - Rise of Bitcoin treasury companies(39:04) - DCA during bear cycles(41:09) - Closing thoughts Links: https://x.com/btcjvs Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  27. 714

    Cluster Mempool Explained with Pieter Wuille | SLP730

    Stephan Livera and Pieter Wuille discuss Cluster Mempool for Bitcoin Core, its motivations, and its implications for Bitcoin users and miners. Where does the current mempool design have issues? Why is it important to maintain a transparent and reliable open mempool? Pieter Wuille also explains the complexities of transaction clustering and how the new framework improves efficiency and helps keep bitcoin mining open. Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:05) - What is Cluster Mempool?(03:05) - What is its impact on everyday Bitcoin users?(06:21) - How does the mempool work today?(11:52) - Current mempool heuristics and issues(16:37) - Censorship resistance and economic demand(22:56) - Practical implications for exchanges & miners(26:12) - How does cluster mempool work?(29:29) - Transaction clusters & mempool dynamics(37:27) - Should mempools align across the node network?(43:47) - What about other implementations of Bitcoin?(48:17) - Other interesting areas for bitcoin development(52:11) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33629 https://bitcoinmagazine.com/print/the-core-issue-cluster-mempool-problems-are-easier-in-chunks https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/an-overview-of-the-cluster-mempool-proposal/393 https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/mempool-incentive-compatibility/553 Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  28. 713

    UTXOs, Spam & Bitcoin's Integrity with Martin Habovstiak | SLP729

    In this conversation, Stephan Livera interviews Bitcoin developer Martin Habovstiak about his website Knotslies and the controversies surrounding data contiguity in Bitcoin transactions. They discuss the legal implications of data storage on the blockchain, the effectiveness of filtering illegal content, and various methods of spamming the Bitcoin chain. Martin shares his insights on the technical aspects of Bitcoin transactions and the challenges of maintaining standards in the face of evolving practices.They also discuss the complexities of Bitcoin's transaction mechanisms, particularly focusing on the implications of spam, the role of UTXOs, and the potential effects of BIP 110. The conversation also highlights the importance of maintaining network integrity, the costs associated with spamming, and the necessity of mining in preserving Bitcoin's resistance to government influence.Takeaways:🔸Martin created Knotslies to address misconceptions about Bitcoin data.🔸The argument about data contiguity in transactions is flawed.🔸Splitting data does not make it legal or safe.🔸Technical understanding is crucial for discussing Bitcoin's legal risks.🔸Filters cannot effectively prevent illegal content on the blockchain.🔸Spamming the Bitcoin chain can lead to larger transaction sizes.🔸The cost of storing data on Bitcoin is significantly higher than cloud services.🔸Different methods of spamming have varying costs and implications.🔸The debate around standards in Bitcoin is ongoing and complex.🔸People who are putting data in Bitcoin are doing it on purpose.🔸The calculator simulates what an attacker would do to spam Bitcoin.🔸Spammers will not be deterred by a 0.4% increase in costs.🔸Lightning Network is crucial for reducing spam on the Bitcoin network.🔸Changing Bitcoin due to government fear undermines its purpose.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:10) - Why did Martin create Knotslies? (07:46) - Controversies around data contiguity in Bitcoin transactions(12:04) - The standard way to interpret Bitcoin data?(20:24) - Can filtering protect node operators from illegal content? (25:37) - Various methods of data spamming in Bitcoin(33:01) - What is the Knotslies calculator? (40:20) - Analyzing spam costs(48:28) - Alternative solutions instead of BIP 110(54:25) - Role of Bitcoin mining in resistance to government influenceLinks: https://x.com/kixunil https://knotslies.com/ https://knotslies.com/calculator.html https://github.com/djkazic/bpub Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  29. 712

    NumoPay: Tap-to-Pay Bitcoin with Calle | SLP728

    In this episode, Calle introduces Numopay, an open-source Bitcoin payment terminal that enables tap-to-pay experiences similar to fiat systems. We explore its technical foundations, privacy features, future developments, and the broader ecosystem of Bitcoin payment solutions.Takeaways:🔸Numopay's open-source payment terminal🔸Tap to pay Bitcoin using NFC and QR codes🔸Privacy features of Cashu’s eCash system🔸Auto withdrawal to Lightning addresses for security🔸Future developments including BIP321 and integrationsTimestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:38) - What is Numopay?(03:29) - Numopay’s UX, tap-to-pay & offline NFC payments (08:30) - Unified QR codes (BIP 321)(10:21) - Auto withdrawal to lightning address(13:51) - Evolution of Bitcoin payment infrastructure(20:08) - What is the future of Numopay?(22:47) - The Cashu ecosystem in 2026(27:34) - Where should people be using Cashu systems today? (30:48) - Privacy in Bitcoin(34:34) - Future of Bitcoin development with AI(42:06) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://x.com/callebtc https://x.com/NumoPayApp https://x.com/NumoPayApp/status/2026334747991916634 Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  30. 711

    Can Bitcoin help you retire early? with Trey Sellers | SLP727

    In this episode, Stephan Livera interviews Trey Sellers about Bitcoin and FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early). They explore how Bitcoin can accelerate FIRE, different strategies for retirement, and practical tools like the FIRE BTC calculator. A must-listen for Bitcoiners interested in personal finance and early retirement strategies.Takeaways:🔸Bitcoin's role in FIRE and personal finance🔸The FIRE BTC Compass and its features🔸’Buy, Borrow, Die’ with Bitcoin🔸Different levels of FIRE and lifestyle planningTimestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:15) - Bitcoin in FIRE community(4:12) - TradFi FIRE vs Bitcoin FIRE(07:31) - Can using Bitcoin accelerate financial independence?  (10:35) - How to use FIRE BTC Compass(14:35) - Different levels of FIRE(19:23) - Strategies for retirement drawdown(30:34) - Can you 'Buy, Borrow, Die' with Bitcoin?(36:23) - Sovereignty aspect of Bitcoin(38:19) - Dynamic life phases & intentional financial planning(43:52) - Why is there no ‘Dave Ramsey of Bitcoin’ show?Links: https://x.com/ts_hodl https://www.firebtc.io/ https://calc.firebtc.io/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  31. 710

    Will Stablecoins help in Bitcoin adoption? with Gareth Grobler | SLP726

    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and Gareth Grobler discuss the innovative features of the Layerz Wallet, focusing on its multi-layered approach to cryptocurrency transactions, the importance of stablecoins for Bitcoin adoption, and the technical challenges of integrating various blockchain technologies. They explore user experience, onboarding strategies, and the future of stablecoins in the context of global markets, while emphasizing the need for a user-centric design that simplifies the process for everyday users.Takeaways:🔸 Stablecoins are crucial for Bitcoin adoption.🔸The dollar is the best of the worst.🔸We need to meet people where they are at.🔸User experience is key for onboarding.🔸Stablecoins provide a smoother transition to Bitcoin.🔸Technical challenges exist but can be managed.🔸Convenience is what most users want.🔸Backup responsibility should shift to the wallet.🔸Global markets require localized solutions.🔸Bitcoin needs to be useful to people.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:55) - What is the premise of Layerz wallet? (02:42) - Which L2s does Layerz support? (04:03) - Who is the wallet for? (05:54) - Stablecoin layer(08:00) - How is Lightning integrated into the wallet?(10:00) - User-centric design & onboarding(11:41) - The role of Stablecoin layer in Bitcoin adoption(16:56) - Understanding swaps & transaction fees(21:39) - Should Bitcoin be only on-chain and lightning?(26:28) - Which Layer 2 would work best for the user? (28:38) - Technical challenges in wallet development(31:42) - Will Layerz also be a fiat-to-Bitcoin onramp?(32:39) - Hardware wallet support & recovery (36:05) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://x.com/GarethGrobler https://x.com/LayerzWallet https://layerzwallet.com/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  32. 709

    $1B monthly volume on lightning with Sam Wouters | SLP725

    Sam Wouters from River shares the latest insights on Bitcoin and Lightning Network adoption, highlighting recent data, growth trends, and misconceptions. Stephan and Sam also discover how Lightning is scaling, the role of institutional and business adoption, and effective strategies for individual investors.Takeaways:🔸Lightning Network transaction volume and capacity🔸Growth and efficiency improvements in Lightning routing🔸Misconceptions about Lightning Network scalability🔸Institutional and business adoption of Bitcoin🔸Behavior patterns of individual Bitcoin investors🔸Narratives and misconceptions in Bitcoin adoption🔸Impact of institutional buying and selling on Bitcoin price🔸Strategies for Bitcoin evangelism and educationTimestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:45) - Overview of River’s report on Lightning Network growth (03:31) - Public Lightning Network capacity & usage(09:14) - Lightning Network user insights & transaction patterns(13:25) - Misconceptions among Bitcoiners about Lightning adoption (20:29) - Centralization in Lightning Network(23:27) - OGs selling Bitcoin(28:21) - Growing institutional adoption of Bitcoin(32:33) - Businesses adopting Bitcoin(38:47) - Individual Bitcoin investment patterns(41:19) - The importance of DCA in bear markets(44:38) - Bitcoin evangelism(52:22) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://x.com/SDWouters https://x.com/River https://x.com/SDWouters/status/2024507942708351443 Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  33. 708

    Bitcoin spam debates with Charlie Spears | SLP724

    In this interview, Stephan Livera chats with Charlie Spears from Blockspace about Bitcoin's ongoing debates on spam, protocol upgrades, and the future of Bitcoin development. They explore the nuances of on-chain data, the impact of ordinals, and the importance of ecosystem diversity.Takeaways:🔸The history and evolution of Bitcoin data debates, including the fork and filter strategies 🔸The real impact of spam and arbitrary data on Bitcoin's security and censorship resistance 🔸Analysis of proposed protocol changes like BIP 110 and their effectiveness in curbing spam 🔸The game theory behind spam vectors and how the ecosystem adapts to soft forks and filters 🔸The role of different Bitcoin clients and the importance of client diversity for network robustness🔸The future of ordinals, inscriptions, and their potential resurgence tied to Bitcoin's overall adoption and price cycles 🔸Insights into Bitcoin Layer projects and the importance of ecosystem tracking and transparency 🔸The significance of Bitcoin conferences like Opnext for fostering developer-institution collaboration and debate 🔸The overarching principle: increasing Bitcoin adoption as the best solution to data and spam concernsTimestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:13) - The BIP110 fork and filter debate(03:59) - Consensus changes vs. policy solutions(08:36) - Understanding spam and data on the Bitcoin blockchain(11:29) - Diversity of Bitcoin clients(14:29) - What is considered spam?(17:55) - Will BIP110 stop or curb spam?(24:51) - Evolution of spam tactics in Bitcoin(29:18) - The future of Ordinals(32:16) - Does Ordinals & spam make Bitcoin a worse money?(37:04) - What is ‘Bitcoin Layers’? (43:02) - What is OPNEXT 2026?(52:49) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://x.com/cbspears https://blockspace.media/ https://x.com/blockspace https://x.com/opnext2026 https://x.com/oklahomabtc Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  34. 707

    Is Your Bitcoin Transaction Safe? with Keith Gardner | SLP723

    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and Keith from Branta discuss the intricacies of Bitcoin payments, focusing on the importance of address verification and security in the context of increasing digital threats. They explore how Branta's zero-knowledge verification process can enhance user experience and security, particularly in the face of potential scams and malware. The discussion also touches on the integration of Branta with Lightning and other Layer 2 solutions, as well as the future of Bitcoin user experience in an AI-driven world.Takeaways:🔸Bitcoin payments require careful address verification to avoid scams.🔸Branta uses zero-knowledge proofs to enhance security.🔸User experience in Bitcoin transactions needs improvement.🔸Address replacement attacks are a significant risk.🔸Branta aims to provide a seamless verification process.🔸Integration with wallets and exchanges is crucial for adoption.🔸AI may introduce new scamming vectors in cryptocurrency.🔸The goal is to make Bitcoin as user-friendly as credit cards.🔸Businesses adopting Branta can enhance customer trust.🔸Future developments will focus on consumer use cases for Branta.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:35) - What’s new with Branta? (01:32) - Address verification risks(04:59) - What is Branta's Zero-Knowledge verification process?(08:36) - Where is the verification taking place? (11:55) - Address verification in mobile and web interfaces(15:50) - Branta's integration with Lightning and L2s(18:17) - Costs of using Branta(18:58) - Future of Bitcoin security and AI threats(21:03) - Branta's role in consumer adoption(25:25) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://x.com/unfakekeith https://x.com/BrantaOps https://branta.pro/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  35. 706

    Monetizing the Megawatt with Robert Warren | SLP722

    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and Robert Warren discuss the evolving landscape of Bitcoin mining, focusing on the intersection of energy consumption and human flourishing. They explore the impact of AI on energy demand, the misconceptions surrounding the cost of production in Bitcoin mining, and innovative strategies for monetizing energy. The discussion highlights notable examples of companies and initiatives that are redefining the mining industry, emphasizing the importance of flexibility and community-driven innovation.Takeaways:🔸Energy consumption correlates with human flourishing.🔸The narrative around Bitcoin mining is evolving positively.🔸AI's demand for energy is reshaping the mining landscape.🔸Cost of production metrics are often misleading in Bitcoin mining.🔸Henry Ford's principles of continuous production apply to Bitcoin mining.🔸Monetizing the megawatt involves diverse revenue streams.🔸Gridless compute is revolutionizing energy use in Bitcoin mining.🔸Smaller miners can thrive by leveraging unique opportunities.🔸Flexible load strategies can stabilize energy markets.🔸Innovation labs like Choya are crucial for industry advancement.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:50) - Overview of National Energy & Mining Summit(02:42) - Human flourishing and energy consumption(06:11) - The energy narrative around Bitcoin(10:00) - Bitcoin miners pivoting to AI(14:04) - Hashrate growth(16:59) - “Cost of Production” analyst metric criticism(22:50) - Early years of Bitcoin mining(24:54) - Henry Ford's crystal palace(29:38) - Monetizing the Megawatt(33:10) - Different revenue streams in Bitcoin mining(36:20) - How is Gridless Compute innovating Bitcoin mining ops?(40:15) - Robert’s Home Bitcoin mining setup(42:38) - What is ‘Flexible Load Management’ in Bitcoin mining?(46:41) - Upstream Data bridging Oil & Bitcoin mining(50:49) - The Cholla Innovation Lab (54:23) - Upcoming events at Bitcoin Park Links: https://x.com/robertwarren https://x.com/bitcoinpark_ https://x.com/robertwarren/status/2019449339811131840 https://bitcoinpark.com/MONETIZING%20THE%20MEGAWATT%201_26.pdf https://linktr.ee/bikesandbitcoin Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  36. 705

    Is Quantum FUD BS with James O'Beirne SLP721

    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and James O'Beirne discuss the implications of quantum computing on Bitcoin, exploring skepticism towards the perceived threats, the current state of quantum research, and the potential responses from Bitcoin developers. They delve into proposed solutions, the role of institutions like NIST, and the challenges of Bitcoin protocol development. The discussion also touches on user experience, self-custody, and the future of Bitcoin adoption amidst evolving technological landscapes.Takeaways:🔸Quantum computing poses theoretical risks to Bitcoin, but practical threats are far off.🔸Skepticism about quantum computing's immediate impact is prevalent among experts.🔸Bitcoin developers have more pressing issues to address than quantum threats.🔸Proposed solutions like BIP 360 could enhance Bitcoin's security regardless of quantum risks.🔸NIST's push for post-quantum cryptography raises concerns about government influence.🔸The academic and business interests in quantum computing may hype its urgency.🔸Bitcoin's protocol development faces challenges due to a lack of strong leadership.🔸User experience is crucial for Bitcoin adoption and self-custody.🔸The future of Bitcoin may depend on how well it adapts to user needs and technological changes.🔸Bitcoin remains a unique solution to fiat debasement and economic instability.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:46) - What is the deal with quantum computing and Bitcoin?(05:05) - Advancing progress in quantum computing(09:43) - Is the quantum threat to Bitcoin around the corner? (11:57) - Quantum resistant schemes developed by Bitcoiners(15:45) - NIST and diverse views on Post-quantum cryptography(22:31) - The future of Bitcoin in a Post-quantum world(29:45) - 'Matt Corallo Quantum Plan'(34:08) - A modest version of the Big Blocker view(38:41) - Covenants and Scaling Bitcoin(43:35) - Comparing OP_TEMPLATEHASH & OP_CTV(48:01) - The ‘Slow and Steady’ approach to Bitcoin development(55:19) - What’s the next adoption pathway for Bitcoin?(1:04:04) - AssumeUTXO, Utreexo & Floresta(1:07:20) - Why are so few people running Bitcoin nodes?(1:14:52) - Closing thoughts Links: https://x.com/jamesob https://ctv-csfs.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Qs31E80cA Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  37. 704

    Bitcoin Loans at Arch | Dhruv Patel SLP720

    In this episode, Stephan Livera and Dhruv Patel, CEO of Arch Lending, discuss the current state of Bitcoin lending, market trends, and the unique products offered by Arch Lending. They explore the mechanics of Bitcoin-backed loans, risk management strategies for borrowers, and the importance of custody and security in the lending process. The conversation also touches on the future of Bitcoin lending, growth strategies, and the evolving landscape of financial products in the cryptocurrency space.Takeaways:🔸Bitcoin lending is gaining traction despite market volatility.🔸Arch Lending offers flexible Bitcoin-backed loans with up to 60% LTV.🔸Understanding the mechanics of Bitcoin loans is crucial for borrowers.🔸Customized loan products cater to specific needs of clients.🔸Risk management is essential when borrowing against Bitcoin.🔸Arch Lending does not rehypothecate client collateral, ensuring security.🔸The market for Bitcoin-backed loans is expected to grow significantly.🔸Debt can be a powerful tool for wealth building if managed wisely.🔸Interest rates for Bitcoin loans have decreased over time.🔸Current market conditions may present safer borrowing opportunities.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:22) - How does Arch Lending work?(02:50) - What does Arch Lending offer? (05:15) - LTV conditions & specialised loan products(09:20) - Risk-managed borrowing against Bitcoin(14:20) - How does Arch Lending custody the Bitcoin?(15:46) - Comparing various Bitcoin lending models(19:46) - Thoughts on borrowing against Bitcoin ETFs(21:37) - Capital providers for Arch Lending(23:16) - Will Arch Lending provide Proof of Reserves? (24:34) - All-in-one Bitcoin financial services(25:48) - Growth & future of Bitcoin lending(28:08) - Who should NOT use Bitcoin lending services? (32:45) - Will TradFi offer similar Bitcoin lending products? (34:08) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://x.com/ArchLending https://archlending.com/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  38. 703

    What do Bitcoiners do about Quantum? with Matt Corallo | SLP719

    In this episode, Stephan Livera and Matt Corallo discuss the implications of quantum computing on Bitcoin's security. They explore expert opinions on the timelines for quantum threats, the current stance of Bitcoin developers, and potential solutions for quantum resistance. Matt introduces his proposed plan for integrating quantum-resistant features into Bitcoin wallets, emphasizing the need for gradual adoption and community consensus. The conversation also touches on market dynamics, the role of seed phrases, and the importance of preparing for a future where quantum computing could pose a significant risk to Bitcoin.Takeaways:🔸Quantum computers are not an immediate threat to Bitcoin.🔸Experts suggest a timeline of 10 to 25 years for quantum threats.🔸Bitcoin developers have historically underestimated quantum risks.🔸There is ongoing research into quantum-resistant solutions.🔸Wallet adoption of new technologies is slow and challenging.🔸The future Bitcoin community will make decisions on quantum security.🔸Market dynamics will influence the value of quantum-vulnerable coins.🔸Seed phrases provide a layer of security against quantum threats.🔸The proposed quantum plan aims for minimal disruption to users.🔸Preparation for quantum threats should start now, even if the risk is distant.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:51) - Quantum computer’s breakthrough timelines(03:38) - Are Bitcoin developers taking the quantum threat seriously?(07:41) - Evaluating the quantum threat(10:00) - The Matt Corallo Quantum Plan(17:48) - Future community decisions on quantum security(20:12) - Will Bitcoin need a soft fork? (23:30) - Market’s response to quantum threat (28:15) - The role of seed phrases in quantum security(33:40) - Post quantum cryptographic schemes(37:23) - Patoshi miner adapting to Q-Day(43:25) - Which public cryptography scheme is most vulnerable? (50:20) - Closing thoughts Links: https://x.com/TheBlueMatt https://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/ https://saveourwallets.org/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  39. 702

    A semi-custodial model for Bitcoin? with Jos Lazet | SLP718

    In this episode, Stephan Livera interviews Jos Lazet from Blockrise, discussing the recent volatility in Bitcoin prices, the semi-custodial model of Blockrise, and the future of Bitcoin lending. They explore the implications of market movements, the importance of risk management in lending, and the evolving landscape of Bitcoin services. Joss shares insights on Blockrise's offerings, including asset management and lending, and emphasizes the need for user-friendly solutions in the Bitcoin space.Takeaways:🔸Bitcoin's volatility is expected to continue for several years.🔸The semi-custodial model offers a balance between security and usability.🔸Risk appetite is crucial when considering Bitcoin loans.🔸Institutional adoption is necessary for Bitcoin's growth.🔸Blockrise aims to provide transparent and user-friendly services.🔸The lending market is evolving with new standards and players.🔸Understanding liquidation points is essential for borrowers.🔸The European banking system is efficient for fiat transactions.🔸Blockrise focuses on a hybrid custody solution for clients.🔸The future of Bitcoin lending will involve more innovative financial products.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:00) - Bitcoin’s recent price volatility & ETFs role(05:31) - What is Blockrise?(08:08) - Semi-custodial model(11:44) - How does Blockrise work?(18:55) - Onboarding & user journey in Bitcoin custody  (24:42) - Does Blockrise support stablecoins?(28:34) - Fiat integration and future of stablecoins in Bitcoin lending(32:21) - Insights from ‘Bitcoin Lending Standards’ report(42:00) - Leveraged Bitcoin or Stay humble & stack sats? (47:27) - Loan terms, interest rates and feesLinks: https://x.com/jos_lazet http://blockrise.com https://www.blockrise.com/en/resources/the-bitcoin-lending-standards-2026-article Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

  40. 701

    Bridging Bitcoin to TradFi with Harsha Goli | SLP717

    In this episode, Harsha Goli from Magnolia Financial discusses the launch of their Bitcoin-enabled banking services across the US, navigating regulatory challenges, and the importance of partnerships with banks. He emphasizes the need for better user experiences in Bitcoin transactions, the role of price oracles, and the implications of the Clarity Act on Bitcoin development. The conversation also touches on the tension between traditional banks and the crypto industry, the future of community banks, and innovations in Bitcoin technology. Harsha shares insights on potential use cases for Magnolia's services and the challenges of bridging the gap in Bitcoin adoption, while also addressing privacy concerns in Bitcoin transactions.Takeaways:🔸Magnolia Financial has launched Bitcoin-enabled banking services across all US states.🔸The company aims to provide a better user experience in Bitcoin transactions.🔸Partnerships with banks are crucial for navigating regulatory challenges.🔸The Clarity Act is seen as a positive development for Bitcoin institutions.🔸Stablecoins are currently dominating the financial landscape.🔸Magnolia is focused on integrating financial services into Bitcoin applications.🔸The future of community banks may involve adapting to crypto innovations.🔸Innovations in Bitcoin technology, especially Layer 2 solutions, are promising.🔸Privacy concerns in Bitcoin transactions are becoming increasingly complex.🔸Harsha emphasizes the need for seamless money transfers in the Bitcoin ecosystem.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:36) - Magnolia enabling Bitcoin-enabled banking(03:10) - Regulatory hurdles in the US(05:03) - Can Banks provide their own native Bitcoin rails?(08:24) - Improving UX with Magnolia(11:48) - Magnolia as Price Oracle in Bitcoin finance (13:35) - Magnolia's pricing and onboarding process(17:10) - What is the impact of US regulations on Bitcoin development? (21:11) - CLARITY Act(25:00) - Tension between Banks & Crypto(28:01) - Community Banks and Crypto?(29:31) - What is Harsha excited about in Bitcoin and its L2’s?(32:08) - Use cases of Magnolia(33:48) - Stable channels & Taproot assets(38:10) - Increasing Bitcoin adoption?(40:51) - Bitcoin privacy and financial scams(46:58) - Closing thoughts on building with MagnoliaLinks: https://x.com/arshbot https://x.com/magnolia_rails https://magnolia.financial/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Are DLCs the Solution to Bitcoin Lending? with Matt Black & Jay Patel | SLP716

    In this episode, Stephan Livera discusses with Jay & Matt the evolution of Lygos Finance, a company formed from the acquisition of Atomic Finance, focusing on decentralized lending using Discreet Log Contracts (DLCs). The conversation explores the growth of the Bitcoin collateralized lending market, the unique position of Lygos in offering non-custodial loans, and the role of Oracles in determining loan outcomes. The hosts delve into the flexible loan terms and competitive interest rates offered by Lygos, as well as the platform's global reach and future developments in user experience and funding mechanisms.Takeaways:🔸The merger of Atomic Finance and Lygos and its significance for DLC lending🔸How DLCs work in a lending context: simplified signatures and outcomes🔸Advantages of DLCs over traditional custodial lending platforms🔸The role of oracles: Magnolia as a third-party verifier🔸Speed improvements with adapter signatures and upcoming hardware wallet support🔸Market size and growth of Bitcoin collateralized loans (over $25 billion)🔸Comparison of DLCs versus custodial and multi-sig lending solutions🔸Extending and rolling over DLC loans seamlessly🔸UX considerations: transparency, privacy, and future seamless fiat/stablecoin onboarding🔸Potential impacts of future Bitcoin upgrades like Taproot or Covenant support🔸How DLCs support global, trust-minimized, and scalable lendingTimestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:40) - From Atomic Finance to Lygos Finance (04:02) - What is the size of the Bitcoin lending market? (05:33) - Unique position of Lygos in the DLC space; Requirements for DLCs by hardware wallets(08:20) - What is a DLC?; How does DLC work in the Bitcoin loan context?  (12:49) - How is Lygos different from other Bitcoin lending platforms? (16:44) - What is the role of an oracle in Lygos? (20:53) - What does taking a loan with Lygos look like?; Loan terms, interest rates & collateral requirements (32:10) - Global reach of Lygos; How are the loans funded? (35:33) - Is UX a major factor in developing Lygos? (40:02) - Possibility of future Bitcoin upgrades and their impact on DLCs(44:48) - Closing thoughts Links: https://x.com/matthewjablack https://x.com/LygosFinance https://www.lygos.finance/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Plan B El Salvador 2026 with Peter Schiff, Piero Coen, Skot | SLP715

    I was joined by Peter Schiff, Piero Coen, Skot at Plan B Elsalvador as we discussed Gold vs Bitcoin, AI & a multipolar world, Bitcoin as freedom money for Latinos and open-source mining decentralizing Bitcoin.Takeaways:🔸Bitcoin and gold are often compared as stores of value.🔸Recent market movements have raised questions about the stability of gold and silver.🔸Central banks are increasingly buying gold, indicating a shift in demand.🔸The US dollar's status as a reserve currency is being challenged.🔸AI has potential to increase productivity but may not solve economic issues.🔸Peter Schiff remains skeptical about Bitcoin's long-term value.🔸Wall Street's involvement has influenced Bitcoin's popularity.🔸Bitcoin requires continuous new buyers to maintain its value.🔸The transition to Bitcoin-only solutions is gaining traction.🔸Building local exchanges is crucial for Bitcoin adoption in Central America.Timestamps:(00:00) - Gold vs Bitcoin ft.Peter Schiff(28:30) - Bitcoin breaks banking exclusion for Latinos ft. Piero Coen(58:50) - Open-source Bitcoin mining ft. SkotLinks: https://x.com/PlanBElsalvador https://x.com/PeterSchiff https://x.com/piero_coen https://x.com/osmo_money https://x.com/skot9000 Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Bitcoin Apps For Everyone with Danny Stagg, Aljaz, & Brianna | SLP714

    In this episode, the discussion revolves around Breez's innovative SDK and its nodeless implementation, which simplifies the integration of Bitcoin and Lightning into applications. The guests share their experiences from the ‘Time to Build’ challenge, highlighting the ease of use and the potential for new applications in the Bitcoin ecosystem. Brianna discusses her social events platform, Evento, and how it leverages the Breez SDK to facilitate peer-to-peer value exchange. Aljaz shares insights on developing a BTC Pay plugin that enhances payment processing without the need for a full Lightning node. The conversation also touches on user experience design, the role of vibe coding in development, and the growing excitement around Bitcoin and Layer 2 solutions.Takeaways:🔸Breez SDK simplifies Bitcoin integration for developers.🔸Evento aims to create a fair events platform without high fees.🔸Breez's node-less implementation reduces complexity for users.🔸User experience is crucial for onboarding non-Bitcoiners.🔸Vibe coding allows for rapid development and experimentation.🔸Brianna emphasizes the importance of user feedback in design.🔸Aljaz's BTC Pay plugin streamlines payment processing.🔸Liquid and Spark offer different trade-offs for developers.🔸The Bitcoin ecosystem is seeing renewed interest and innovation.🔸The future of Bitcoin payments looks promising with new tools. Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:04) - Overview of ‘Time to Build’ challenge(02:07) - What is Breez Nodeless SDK?(03:09) - Brianna’s experience of building Evento using Breez SDK(09:02) - Aljaz’s BTCPay Server plugin(12:48) - How does Aljaz’s BTCPay plugin help the end user? (16:00) - What does implementing the plugin unlock? (19:23) - Vibe coding Bitcoin payments with Breez SDK(21:30) - AI, MCP and documentation(24:54) - UX and design considerations for Evento(29:47) - Evento wallet (34:07) - Comparing Liquid & Spark implementations(35:23) - Excitement around Bitcoin and L2 developments(41:14) - Closing thoughts Links: Brianna: https://x.com/briimhd Danny: https://x.com/dannystaggAljaz: https://x.com/aaaljaz  Evento: https://x.com/evento_so Breez: https://x.com/breez_tech Aljaz site: https://disobey.dev/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Hash-based signatures for Bitcoin's post-quantum future? with Jonas Nick | SLP713

    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and Jonas Nick discuss the implications of quantum computing on Bitcoin's security, focusing on the risks posed to cryptographic signatures. They explore the current vulnerabilities in Bitcoin, the potential for quantum attacks, and the need for post-quantum cryptographic solutions. The discussion covers various signature schemes, including hash-based signatures, their trade-offs, and the challenges of transitioning to a quantum-resistant Bitcoin. They also touch on the implications for hardware wallets, multi-signature schemes, and the potential need for block size increases to accommodate new signature sizes.Takeaways:🔸Quantum computers pose a real risk to Bitcoin's cryptography.🔸Current Bitcoin signatures are vulnerable to long-range attacks.🔸Hash-based signatures are significantly larger than current signatures.🔸Transitioning to quantum resistance will require careful planning.🔸The Bitcoin community must reach a consensus on new schemes.🔸Verification costs will increase with new signature schemes.🔸Hardware wallets will need to adapt to new signature requirements.🔸Block size discussions may need to be revisited in light of quantum risks.🔸The timeline for quantum computing advancements is uncertain.🔸A gradual transition to quantum resistance may be necessary. Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:49) - How real is quantum risk to Bitcoin?(04:39) - When could quantum pose a threat to Bitcoin’s cryptography? (09:56) - Long range vs Short range attacks(12:37) - How many coins are vulnerable to Long range attacks?(14:12) - Different types of cryptography and exploring Hash-based signature schemes(17:00) - Categories of Hash-based signature scheme and their pros & cons(23:42) - How do Hash-based signatures work? (32:14) - Would Lightning, Multi-sig, Taproot, Silent Payments, Atomic swaps work in a post-quantum world? (38:50) - What are Adaptor signatures & how do they affect atomic swapping? (41:27) - Will we need new Bitcoin hardware wallets?; Signature production & verification (44:41) - Signature size and Bitcoin block capacity implications(46:52) - Should we revisit the block size conversation? (54:57) - Overview of SPHINCS+ & SHRINCS(59:49) - Transitioning to post-quantum signature schemes; Overview of BIP 360(1:09:06) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://x.com/n1ckler Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    The Financial System Built on Bitcoin with Arnab Naskar | SLP712

    In this conversation, Arnab Naskar from Stokr discusses the intersection of Bitcoin, tokenization, and capital markets. He explains how Bitcoin serves as both a store of value and a settlement layer, enabling the creation of decentralized financial systems. The discussion covers the advantages of using Liquid for tokenization, the importance of confidentiality in transactions, and the innovative financing opportunities in energy and Bitcoin mining. Arnab emphasizes the systemic shift in financial markets due to tokenization, the role of stablecoins, and the future of decentralized finance on Liquid.Takeaways:🔸Bitcoin serves as a store of value and a settlement layer.🔸Stokr focuses on tokenizing financial assets on Liquid.🔸Liquid offers confidentiality and stability for tokenized assets.🔸Tokenization can reduce the need for intermediaries in finance.🔸The market for tokenized securities is rapidly growing.🔸Energy infrastructure financing is a key area for innovation.🔸Tokenization opens up investment opportunities globally.🔸Users can trade tokenized assets seamlessly on Liquid.🔸The future of finance will involve both DEXs and centralized exchanges.🔸Tokenization represents a systemic shift in capital markets.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:59) - Who is Arnab and what is Stokr? (02:29) - Isn’t Bitcoin enough? (04:44) - How and why is Stokr different?; The importance of Liquid Network (08:35) - How does Liquid compete with other chains for tokenization of assets? (11:54) - What is CMSTR?(15:01) - Does Stokr help finance SMEs & traditional businesses?(18:23) - What is Blockstream Mining Note (BMN)? (24:34) - Trust minimising the ownership of securities; Whitelisting process (28:57) - How big is Liquid Network? How does it fare compared to other asset platforms? (33:43) - Who are the customers of Stokr’s tokenized products? (37:34) - What does the interface between Stokr and the end user look like?; The @Blockstream edge(46:11) - Is TradFi embracing tokenization of assets?; Will Bitcoin be the base layer for tokenization?(56:25) - Closing thoughts Links: https://x.com/Arnab_Naskarr https://x.com/stokr_io https://blog.liquid.net/cmstr-note-tokenizing-public-stock-on-liquid/https://mining.blockstream.com/finance/bmn/  Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Lightning for Bitcoin Treasuries with Dave Lund | SLP711

    In this episode Dave Lund, CEO of FlowRate, discusses the emerging concept of yield in the Lightning Network. Dave shares his background in the Bitcoin space and explains how FlowRate aims to bridge the gap between traditional treasury management and the Lightning ecosystem. He emphasizes the importance of liquidity leasing and routing fees as potential yield strategies for Bitcoin treasury companies, highlighting the need for businesses to adapt to this new financial landscape. The conversation explores the challenges and opportunities that come with operating on the Lightning Network, particularly for institutional players looking to maximize their Bitcoin holdings.Dave also elaborates on the significance of network topology in the Lightning ecosystem, explaining how a well-positioned node can enhance yield potential. He also addresses the security concerns that treasuries face when deploying Bitcoin on Lightning, advocating for improved security measures such as multi-signature solutions. Dave predicts that liquidity leasing could eventually replace the traditional bond market, positioning Bitcoin as a viable fixed-income asset.Takeaways:🔸Dave Lund emphasizes the potential of Lightning as the new telecom industry.🔸Treasury companies are seen as key players in deploying capital on Lightning.🔸Liquidity leasing is highlighted as a reliable yield strategy.🔸Topology is crucial for effective Lightning operations.🔸The conversation compares Lightning yield to traditional bond markets.🔸Dave Lund discusses the challenges of security in Lightning deployments.🔸FlowRate aims to simplify Lightning onboarding for businesses.🔸The episode explores the evolving landscape of Bitcoin yield strategies.🔸Dave Lund predicts liquidity leasing could replace the bond market.🔸The importance of starting early in Lightning operations is stressed.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:14) - Who is Dave Lund?(02:44) - What is FlowRate?; Basic building blocks of ‘Yield on Lightning Network’(06:31) - Dave’s view on Bitcoin Treasury Companies; ‘Yield per deployed sat’(10:23) - Real world examples of yield from Lightning Network - Cash App, LQWD Tech(15:22) - What are the possible challenges and opportunities in Lightning deployment?(18:46) - What does FlowRate offer? (22:54) - How can BTCTC benefit from the yield generation via Lightning?(25:37) - What are the costs involved to operate the Lightning yield profitably? (32:56) - Lightning Network topology and its impact on lightning efficiency(38:02) - Will the customers of FlowRate have their own Lightning node?(41:59) - The importance of security in managing Bitcoin(45:05) - Who can benefit from FlowRate? (47:41) - Closing thoughts Links: https://www.flowrate.com/ Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Strive: Amplified Bitcoin Exposure Engine with Matt Cole | SLP710

    In this conversation, Stephan Livera and Matt Cole discuss the rapid growth and strategic developments of Strive, a Bitcoin treasury company, particularly following its merger with Semler Scientific. They explore the implications of this merger, the importance of institutional interest in Bitcoin, and the strategies for managing debt and generating yield. The discussion also touches on the competitive landscape of Bitcoin treasury companies, the role of digital credit, and the future outlook for Bitcoin in the context of increasing institutional adoption and market dynamics.Takeaways:🔸Strive has rapidly grown its Bitcoin holdings through strategic mergers.🔸The merger with Semler positions Strive as a leading Bitcoin treasury company.🔸Institutional investors are increasingly interested in Bitcoin treasury companies.🔸Strive aims to generate a significant Bitcoin yield for its investors.🔸Managing debt effectively is crucial for Strive's future growth.🔸The healthcare business from Semler will be monetized within a year.🔸Acquisitions in the Bitcoin treasury space are strategic and not frequent.🔸Understanding Bitcoin yield and amplification is key for investors.🔸Digital credit is a growing area within Bitcoin treasury companies.🔸The future of Bitcoin looks promising with increasing institutional adoption.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:37) - Strive’s growth and developments (05:54) - What do institutions look for when investing in a BTCTC?; Reverse stock split (09:08) - How will Strive manage its debt?; Amplifying Bitcoin exposure  (13:22) - How will Semler Scientific be monetized? (17:06) - Accelerating Bitcoin yield through SATA; Possible future M&A(22:53) - Structuring a merger of a BTCTC (26:30) - Valuing a BTCTC and mNAV considerations(34:46) - Matt's take on Danny Knowles's interview with Michael Saylor(39:54) - Should every BTCTC engage in financial engineering? (44:18) - Differentiation in Bitcoin treasury companies(48:40) - What is the difference between SATA and STRC?(53:38) - Who is SATA for? (57:49) - Which are the pools of capital that can’t directly buy Bitcoin?(1:01:41) - Have BTCTC cannibalized the on-chain use of Bitcoin?(1:04:34) - Outlook for Bitcoin in 2026Links: https://x.com/ColeMacro https://x.com/Strive Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Bitcoin on the map with Dr. Padraig Corcoran | SLP709

    In this conversation, Dr. Padraig Corcoran discusses his research on Bitcoin as a medium of exchange, focusing on the use of spatial data from OpenStreetMap and BTC Map. He explores the dynamics of merchant adoption, the role of community initiatives, and the implications for policymakers. The conversation highlights the importance of grassroots movements in promoting Bitcoin usage and the potential for growth in merchant acceptance as technology improves.Takeaways:🔸Bitcoin serves multiple purposes: unit of account, store of value, medium of exchange.🔸OpenStreetMap is a crowdsourced geographical data project.🔸BTC Map helps identify merchants accepting Bitcoin.🔸Adoption of Bitcoin as a medium of exchange is growing.🔸Quality of crowdsourced data can vary significantly.🔸Community initiatives play a crucial role in Bitcoin adoption.🔸Government policies do not directly influence merchant adoption.🔸The Lightning Network is vital for facilitating Bitcoin transactions.🔸Merchants often accept Bitcoin to attract a specific customer base.🔸Bitcoin can function as both a store of value and a medium of exchange.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:08) - Dr. Padraig Corcoran’s background & his research on Bitcoin and Spatial Analysis(02:31) - OpenStreetMap; Pros & Cons of crowdsourced geographical data(06:19) - How did BTC Map use OpenStreetMap to represent Bitcoin merchants?(10:08) - What are the insights from analysing the adoption of Bitcoin as a medium of exchange? (15:25) - Nation level vs. Grassroots Bitcoin adoption; Bitcoin circular economies(18:37) - Bitcoin adoption in El Salvador vs Berlin(19:51) - Are merchants accepting Bitcoin without them knowing about it? (23:14) - What are the factors influencing merchant adoption?; Learnings for policymakers from Dr. Padraig’s research(25:19) - What kind of Bitcoin businesses are on BTC Map?(27:49) - Is Bitcoin only for savings?  (32:30) - What should Bitcoin builders focus on?(33:34) - What is Dr. Padraig’s perception of Bitcoin as money?(35:23) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://x.com/pcorcoran9 https://x.com/btcmap/status/1993737818271633638 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40854-025-00871-z Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Has Lightning Quietly Succeeded? with Nate (Beeforbacon) | SLP708

    In this conversation, I discuss with Nate the current state and future prospects of the Lightning Network as of December 2025. They explore various aspects such as payment success rates, public perception versus practitioner insights, routing fees, centrality in nodes, yield opportunities, privacy considerations, and the overall adoption of the Lightning Network. The discussion highlights the improvements made over the years, the economic incentives for node operators, and the importance of community-driven initiatives in shaping the future of the Lightning Network.=Takeaways:🔸The Lightning Network has improved payment success rates over time.🔸Public perception of the Lightning Network often differs from actual usage statistics.🔸Routing fees are crucial for maintaining liquidity and economic incentives in the network.🔸Centrality in Lightning nodes affects payment success and routing efficiency.🔸Yield opportunities exist for those operating Lightning nodes.🔸Adoption of the Lightning Network is expected to grow as more enterprises recognize its benefits.🔸Privacy in Lightning transactions is nuanced and requires careful management.🔸Innovations in Lightning technology continue to enhance user experience and functionality.🔸The future of the Lightning Network may involve more integration with traditional financial systems.🔸Community-driven initiatives are essential for the growth and improvement of the Lightning Network.Timestamps:00:00 Intro02:53 Current State and Performance of the Lightning Network05:58 Public Perception vs. Practitioner Insights08:53 Routing and Payment Success Rates11:55 Fee Structures and Yield in Lightning Network14:56 The Evolution of Lightning Node Operations17:56 Centralization Concerns in the Lightning Network27:45 Hub and spoke model?30:14 Privacy Concerns in Lightning Network32:41 The Centralization Debate in Lightning Network35:43 Merchant Adoption of Bitcoin Payments38:47 The Role of Bitcoin as a Medium of Exchange40:53 Exploring Lightning Network Implementations45:36 Recommendations for Different User Types50:45 Comparing Lightning Network with Alternative Solutions54:52 Enhancing Bitcoin's Functionality57:37 The Future of Bitcoin Development59:59 Bitcoin Myths and Misconceptions01:02:08 The Importance of Bitcoin Ownership01:06:05 Lightning Network Adoption and Innovations01:11:01 Privacy in the Lightning NetworkLinks:https://x.com/BeefOrBacon1http://billandkeonne.org/https://learn.robosats.org/Sponsor:CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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    Bitcoin Network Monitoring with B10C | SLP707

    In this episode, B10C discusses his work in the Bitcoin ecosystem, focusing on the importance of censorship resistance, the role of mining pools, and the implications of OFAC sanctions on Bitcoin transactions. He introduces the Peer Observer project aimed at monitoring the Bitcoin network for anomalies and attacks, and highlights the need for a collaborative approach to Bitcoin network operations through the Bitcoin Network Operations Collective.Takeaways:🔸B10C has been working on Bitcoin open source projects since 2021.🔸Research on mining pools reveals they may filter out certain transactions.🔸Censorship resistance is a key feature of Bitcoin that needs monitoring.🔸The Bitcoin network lacks a professional monitoring system compared to large companies.🔸The Peer Observer project aims to detect attacks on Bitcoin nodes.🔸Monitoring tools can help identify anomalies in the Bitcoin network.🔸The Bitcoin Network Operations Collective is a forum for collaboration on network monitoring.🔸Compact block relay improves block propagation efficiency.🔸Different mining pools have varying policies on transaction inclusion.🔸The future of Bitcoin monitoring relies on community collaboration.Timestamps:(00:00) - IntroLinks: https://x.com/0xb10c https://b10c.me/ Sponsor:CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)Stephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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