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Stories for the Third Quarter: Midlife, Myth, and Meaning
by Scott Bryson, PhD
Writer and professor Scott Bryson, PhD, explores the power of story to help us navigate midlife. Stories for the Third Quarter is about that stretch between traditional adulthood and old age—when the roles we’ve lived inside begin to shift, success no longer always satisfies, and deeper reflections about identity, purpose, and aging rise closer to the surface.Through myth, poetry, psychology, and lived experience, each episode offers reflections for anyone in midlife who senses that something's changing and wants to think more deeply about the second half of life.Learn more at sbryson.com
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The Wound Beneath the Surface (The Story of Sedna)
Scott Bryson, PhD, explores an Inuit story about loss, betrayal, and transformation—and why some of the most powerful forces in our lives don’t come from what we’ve mastered, but from what we’ve been forced to leave behind.In this episode, we look at the story of Sedna, a woman cast into the ocean and transformed into the source of life itself. Unlike many myths where the hero confronts a monster and returns with treasure, this story asks something different. What if the thing in the depths isn’t something you defeat or even integrate—but something wounded? Something cut off, pushed down, and left unattended?Drawing on myth and psychology, we explore a different kind of descent—not one of conquest, but of care. What it means to go toward what’s been damaged. To tend to what can’t fix itself. And how, in ways we don’t always expect, the places of greatest loss can also become the sources of renewal.Learn more at www.sbryson.comListen to the podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2z0HrlaU4ZXqJ1LwoT48xP
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The Science of Mattering: It's Kind of a Wonderful Life, Isn't It
Scott Bryson, PhD, explores why feeling like we matter is so central to a meaningful life—and why it’s not the same as confidence, success, or being seen. Drawing on emerging research in the “science of mattering,” we look at what psychologists mean when they say we need to feel valued and add value—and why that experience shapes everything from mental health to motivation and connection.Then we turn to It’s a Wonderful Life to see how George Bailey’s story captures something most of us experience but rarely name: the gap between actually mattering and feeling like we do. Clarence doesn’t give George a pep talk—he shows him the ripple effects of his life. And in doing so, he reveals a hard truth: you can matter deeply and still feel like you don’t.Along the way, we consider a quieter, more practical question—one that cuts through the noise of achievement and visibility: where, and to whom, do you actually make a difference? And what might change if you started paying attention to the small, often unnoticed ways your presence shapes the lives around you?Learn more at www.sbryson.comListen to the podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2z0HrlaU4ZXqJ1LwoT48xP
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Bluebeard, Bly, and the Invisible Bag: What we think we're not supposed to look at
Scott Bryson, PhD, explores the story of Bluebeard through the lens of psychology, myth, and power—and what it reveals about the things we’re not supposed to see.Drawing on the work of Clarissa Pinkola Estés and Robert Bly, this episode looks at two different but connected ideas:the parts of ourselves we hide in what Bly calls the “invisible bag”and the things that are hidden from us—by relationships, by systems, and by those in powerAt the center of the Bluebeard story is a forbidden room. A door we’re told not to open.But over time, the question starts to come up:What’s actually in there?This episode explores:the meaning of the Bluebeard story and its psychological layershow repression and hidden truth operate differentlywhy curiosity and instinct matterand what happens when we finally look at what’s been kept out of viewBecause sometimes the turning point doesn’t come when things make sense.It comes the moment you open the door—and decide not to look away.Learn more at www.sbryson.comPrefer listening? Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2z0HrlaU4ZXqJ1LwoT48xP
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Follow the White Rabbit: Kairos, Chronos, and the Moments Worth Paying Attention To
Scott Bryson, PhD, explores the difference between chronos and kairos—and how moments from The Matrix help us recognize when life is asking something more from us.Most of our lives unfold in chronos time—the steady, everyday rhythm of schedules, responsibilities, and routines. But every once in a while, something interrupts that flow. A moment feels heavier. A question won’t go away. A decision suddenly carries more weight than it should.In this episode, we look at those moments—what the ancient Greeks called kairos—through the lens of Neo’s choice between the red pill and the blue pill. Not as a sci-fi plot point, but as a recognizable human experience: the moment when something breaks in and asks you to pay attention.This episode explores:the meaning of kairos vs chronos (ancient Greek concepts of time)why certain moments feel more significant than othershow to recognize when life is interrupting you for a reasonand how to respond without overreacting or shutting it downBecause not every interruption matters.But some do.And learning to recognize the difference can change the direction of your life.Learn more athttps://www.sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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Pancho and Lefty in The Third Quarter
Scott Bryson, PhD, explores Pancho and Lefty—the classic made famous by Townes Van Zandt and later recorded by Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard—and why it hits differently as we move into midlife.Most of us grow up identifying with Pancho—the outlaw, the legend, the one who lives fast and stays pure in memory. But over time, many of us begin to recognize ourselves in Lefty instead—the one who survives, adapts, and carries the consequences of real life.This episode explores: • the meaning of “Pancho and Lefty” and its enduring impact in country music • why the line “he only did what he had to do” lands differently with age • how myth, storytelling, and perspective shape who becomes the hero—and who has to live with the story • and what the song reveals about identity, compromise, and the second half of lifeBecause by midlife, the story isn’t as simple as it once was.We’re not just the legend.We’re the ones who stayed.And the question becomes: what do we do with the story now?Learn more athttps://www.sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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What the Darkness Offers (When Your Life Doesn’t Fit Anymore)
Scott Bryson, PhD, looks at a strange but familiar moment: when your life works… but doesn’t feel right anymore.It’s not a crisis. Nothing is obviously broken. But something has shifted—and the old way of navigating no longer works the same way.Drawing on a story shared by mythologist Michael Meade, this episode explores what happens when we stop trying to fix the discomfort and instead stay with it. Not as a problem to solve—but as something to listen to.Because sometimes, the darkness isn’t something to avoid.It’s where something begins.Learn more athttps://www.sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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Frankenstein and the Modern Prometheus
Mary Shelley subtitles her novel Frankenstein “The Modern Prometheus” to draw a direct parallel between Victor Frankenstein and the mythic figure Prometheus. In Greek mythology, Prometheus steals fire from the gods and gives it to humanity, an act that empowers human civilization but violates natural and divine boundaries. For this transgression, he is punished with endless suffering.Victor Frankenstein performs a similar act in a modern, scientific key. Instead of stealing fire, he uncovers the secret of creating life itself. Like Prometheus, he reaches beyond accepted limits, driven by ambition and a desire to benefit humanity. But his creation brings unintended consequences: isolation, destruction, and moral responsibility he cannot escape.The comparison highlights a central tension of the novel. Both figures represent human striving and ingenuity, but also the danger of overreach. Shelley suggests that knowledge without wisdom, or creation without responsibility, leads not to progress but to suffering. In this sense, Frankenstein is “modern” not just because of science, but because his story reflects the emerging anxieties of an age beginning to realize that human power had outpaced human understanding.Learn more at https://www.sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available on youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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Persephone, Demeter, and the Third Quarter: When You Can’t Go Back
Scott Bryson, PhD, returns to one of the most enduring myths—Persephone and Demeter—to explore a difficult truth about the third quarter of life: sometimes, growth requires letting go of the person we once were.In this episode, we revisit the story of Persephone’s descent into the underworld and consider what it reveals about midlife. What happens when we’re pulled into a season we didn’t choose? When something shifts—our bodies, our roles, our sense of self—and we realize we can’t simply return to who we used to be?Reading the myth not just as story but as psychological map, we explore the idea that loss and transformation are intertwined. Persephone doesn’t come back unchanged—she becomes something new. And Demeter, too, must relinquish the hope of preserving what once was. Together, their story offers a lens for understanding the paradox of midlife: that the release of an old identity may be what makes depth, authority, and a fuller self possible.If you’ve felt the quiet (or not-so-quiet) sense that an earlier version of you is no longer available—and you’re not sure what comes next—this conversation is for you.Learn more at https://www.sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available on youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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Why We Coach (a personal essay)
In this episode, Scott Bryson reads Why We Coach, a story about Little League that turns out to be about much more than baseball. Through moments of frustration, humor, ego, and unexpected connection, we explore what coaching reveals about us as parents, as people, and as participants in our own lives. Along the way, we look at how the desire to help, to succeed, to control, and ultimately to love, all show up in ways we don’t always anticipate.Learn more at https://www.sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available on youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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"Angel From Montgomery" and the White Fire Burning Within
In this episode, Scott Bryson, PhD, takes a mythological look at John Prine’s haunting song "Angel from Montgomery," popularized by Bonnie Raitt. On the surface, the song tells a simple story: a middle-aged woman looking around at a life that never quite became what she hoped. The house is old, the marriage feels worn down, and the days seem to repeat themselves. But the emotional power of the song lives in the tension between the quiet life we see on the outside and the fierce longing that still burns inside. We focus especially on the line, “If dreams were thunder and lightning was desire, this old house would have burnt down a long time ago.” The lyric reminds us that a life that looks calm from the outside can still contain enormous inner fire. The ancient Jewish teaching about white fire has much to show us from this perspective. The idea is that the Torah was written in black fire on white fire. The black fire is the visible story—the words on the page. The white fire is the space around them, the meanings still burning between the lines. Songs, myths, and stories often work the same way. The visible story is the black fire. But the deeper longings and questions—the things we feel but can’t always name—live in the white fire. And for many people, the third quarter of life is when we begin to notice that fire burning within ourselves. Learn more at https://www.sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available on youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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Dying With a Little Patience: The Three I’s of Identity, Inclination, and Intention
In this episode, Scott Bryson, PhD, introduces three deceptively simple questions that can help orient us in the second half of life.Who are you?What do you want?Where are you going with your life?They sound straightforward. But when we sit with them honestly, they open up much deeper territory.We explore what Bryson calls the “Three I’s”: Identity, Inclination, and Intentionality. The questions are simple, but they often become especially powerful in the third quarter of life, when many of the roles and scripts that once defined us begin to loosen or fall away.Together, we look at what it means to ask: Who am I now?—beyond job titles, achievements, and expectations. We reflect on inclination: what genuinely draws us forward, what lights us up, and what we may be ready to move past. And we consider intentionality: the shift from living on autopilot to becoming more conscious authors of the lives we’re living.The Three I’s aren’t a productivity system or a midlife formula. They aren’t about dramatic reinvention or rejecting ordinary pleasures. They’re ongoing questions—questions that help us stay awake instead of sleepwalking through this stage of life.Stories, myths, novels, songs, and films often help illuminate these questions. They don’t tell us exactly what to do, but they help us see more clearly.And that’s the spirit of this channel: a place where we can keep these questions in view together, even when the answers are still unfolding.
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You think you know this poem, but... (Robert Frost and The Road Not Taken)
One of the all-time great third-quarter poems is also one of the most misinterpreted poems of all time.In this episode, Scott Bryson, PhD, takes a fresh look at Robert Frost’s “The Road Not Taken.”Most of us learned to read the poem as a celebration of bold independence. The traveler chooses the road “less traveled by,” and that choice, we’re told, “has made all the difference.”But if we slow down and read the poem more carefully, a different story begins to emerge.We notice that the two roads are actually described as “really about the same.” We notice the speaker imagining how he’ll tell the story “ages and ages hence.” And we start to hear something more complicated beneath the familiar lines: reflection, uncertainty, and the way we narrate our past decisions to ourselves over time.In this episode, we explore the poem as a meditation on choice, memory, and the stories we tell about the lives we’ve lived. Especially in the second half of life, many of us find ourselves looking back at the paths we did—and didn’t—take.Frost’s poem doesn’t simply celebrate the road less traveled.It invites us to think about what it means to stand at a fork in the woods, make a choice, and then live with the story we tell ourselves about it afterward.
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When we're living a life that's not really working for us (The Selkie story)
In this episode, Scott Bryson, PhD, reflects on the haunting North Atlantic legend of the selkie—the seal-woman who sheds her skin, lives for a time among humans, and eventually feels the irresistible call to return to the sea.We explore the story not simply as folklore, but as a metaphor for something many of us experience in our own lives. In the tale, a hunter hides the selkie’s sealskin, forcing her to remain on land. Over time she builds a life, even a family, but something essential within her begins to fade. When she finally finds the hidden skin and puts it back on, she returns to the ocean—to the part of herself she could never truly abandon.What might that sealskin represent for us?Sometimes, over the course of a life, we set aside a part of who we once were—a calling, a longing, a way of being that once felt natural. We build careers, relationships, identities. Yet something inside us keeps calling, asking us to remember.The selkie story asks a simple but unsettling question:What part of ourselves might still be waiting for us to come back and reclaim it?
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Every Bush is Burning (Moses, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, et al)
In this episode, Scott Bryson, PhD, reflects on a simple but powerful idea: every bush is burning.We begin with the story from the book of Exodus, where Moses encounters God in the form of a burning bush. According to the story, the divine can’t appear fully to Moses—the power would overwhelm him—so it shows up through something ordinary: a bush that burns without being consumed.But what if that moment isn’t unique?The Victorian poet Elizabeth Barrett Browning offered a striking answer in her poem Aurora Leigh: “Earth’s crammed with heaven, / And every common bush afire with God.” Her point is that the world is already full of meaning, beauty, and even holiness. The difference isn’t the bush. It’s whether we see it.Some people notice the fire and take off their shoes in awe. Others sit nearby, plucking blackberries, unaware.From there, we widen the lens. Writers as different as Richard Rohr, William Stafford, and Louise Erdrich all circle around the same insight: the sweetness of life, the mystery, the significance—it’s been here all along. Sometimes it takes a grasshopper, a brush with death, or a quiet moment in nature or with a book to remind us.But the invitation is simple.We don’t have to travel to a holy mountain to encounter the sacred. We don’t have to be Moses.If we’re willing to look closely enough, we might begin to notice that the world is already alive with meaning.Every bush is burning.Learn more at https://www.sbryson.com
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Hansel, Gretel, and The Third Quarter
In this episode, we explore what the fairy tale Hansel and Gretel can teach us about the transition into what Scott Bryson, PhD, calls the “third quarter” of life.Most of us remember the familiar parts of the story: two children abandoned in the forest, breadcrumbs, a gingerbread house, and a dangerous witch. But the moment that matters most often comes later—and many people don’t remember it.After the breadcrumbs fail and the witch is defeated, the children are still lost. Eventually they come to a river, where a white duck offers to carry them across, one at a time.That small moment opens up a powerful way of thinking about the second half of life.For much of the first half of life, we rely on “breadcrumbs”—plans, roles, identities, and strategies that help us move forward. We build careers, raise families, and develop a sense that we know how life works. But many people reach a point when they look down and realize the breadcrumbs are gone.In this episode, we reflect on what the white duck might represent. Unlike the breadcrumbs, it isn’t a strategy or a carefully designed plan. It appears when the children finally admit they are lost.We also consider two other lessons from this moment in the story: that some crossings must be made alone, even when we are supported and loved, and that the help that carries us across an important threshold is often temporary. It gets us across the river, but it doesn’t replace the journey.The story of Hansel and Gretel suggests that when our old plans disappear, it isn’t the end of the story. It may simply be the moment when a different kind of journey begins.Learn more at https://www.sbryson.com
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Narcissus and Echo—The Sin Nobody Talks about
In this episode, Scott Bryson, PhD, takes a fresh look at the myth of Narcissus and Echo as told in Ovid's Metamorphoses—and suggests we may be misunderstanding the real lesson of the story.Most of us think we know what the myth is about. Narcissus falls in love with his own reflection and wastes away staring at himself. Echo, cursed so that she can only repeat the words of others, falls in love with him and fades until only her voice remains. The story seems to warn us about vanity and self-obsession.But what if that’s not the deepest problem in the myth?In this reading, the real failure of both Narcissus and Echo is not simply self-love or unrequited love. It’s their shared inability to notice the vast beauty and meaning that surrounds them. Both characters become fixated on a single object—Narcissus himself—and lose the capacity to see the wider world.To explore this idea, we connect the myth to a striking line from Elizabeth Barrett Browning, who wrote that “Earth’s crammed with heaven, and every common bush afire with God.” The tragedy of Narcissus and Echo is that they cannot see the burning bushes all around them.From there, the episode turns to our own lives. How often do we move through the world with our eyes down, focused on a single concern, missing the beauty, wonder, and possibility that surrounds us? And how different might life feel if we practiced simply looking up—just a little more often?Learn more at sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available at youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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How to Read a Myth (Using Orpheus and Eurydice)
In this episode, Scott Bryson, PhD, explores how to read stories mythologically through one of the most enduring tales from Greek mythology: Orpheus and Eurydice.We begin with a simple idea. Stories can be read on at least two levels. First, we can simply love them as stories. But we can also ask deeper questions: Why has this story been told and retold for centuries? And why does it still resonate with us today?Using the myth of Orpheus and Eurydice as an example, we look closely at the moment that defines the story: the backward glance. As Orpheus leads Eurydice out of the underworld, he turns to look at her—and loses her forever.But what does that glance mean?We can explore several possibilities. The look might reflect insecurity and self-doubt. It might be an expression of love and concern. It might reveal mistrust of authority, or even a fear of hope itself. Sometimes the moment that undoes us comes precisely when something good might finally be possible.Then we shift the lens and consider the story from Eurydice’s perspective. What does it mean to follow the rules and still not be trusted? What does the story reveal about being rendered passive, or about the painful experience of being almost saved, almost chosen?The myth doesn’t ask us to decide whether Orpheus was right or wrong. Instead, it invites us to notice where we look back in our own lives—and whether, in those moments, we are more like Orpheus, more like Eurydice, or perhaps a little of both.Learn more at sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available at youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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Why the Past Starts Following You in Midlife (Orestes and the Furies)
In the second half of life, something strange starts to happen. Memories come back. Regrets resurface. Old decisions don’t feel as settled as they once did. Success doesn’t satisfy the way it used to. A part of you feels… followed. In this video, I turn to the ancient Greek tragedy The Oresteia by Aeschylus — which tells the story of Orestes and the Furies — as a map for midlife haunting. After committing a terrible crime, Orestes is chased across the world by the Furies, relentless spirits who won’t let him rest. But the story doesn’t end the way we expect. What if the “ghosts” that follow us in midlife aren’t punishment? What if they’re unfinished parts of the self asking to be heard? Drawing on mythology and depth psychology, this talk explores:• Why the second half of life often feels haunted• How regret, grief, and dissatisfaction function like modern Furies• What it means to make the darkness conscious• How listening can transform haunting into integration? Is silencing the ghosts really the point? Or just listening to them? Giving them attention?If this resonates, subscribe for more reflections on myth, meaning, and the third quarter of life.Learn more at sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available at youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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U2 for The Third Quarter
In this episode, Scott Bryson turns to U2’s classic anthem "I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking" For from "The Joshua Tree" and explores why it may be one of the great third-quarter songs of the last forty years. On the surface, it sounds like spiritual restlessness. But beneath that refrain is something far more mature: a voice that has climbed, crawled, bled, believed, doubted, and still keeps walking. This isn't adolescent searching. It's seasoned longing. And the song celebrates it. In the third quarter of life, many of us discover that arrival is a myth. The career summit does not complete us. The stable marriage does not erase mystery. The spiritual conversion does not end the questions. Instead, we find ourselves holding paradox: faith and uncertainty, accomplishment and incompleteness, gratitude and desire. This song gives language to that stage of life. It affirms that longing is not failure. It may be the very sign that we are still alive, still awake, still on the road.Learn more at sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available at youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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The Mistake People Make With Myth — And How to Fix It (Theseus and Ariadne)
In this episode, Scott Bryson explores the common mistake people make when reading myth — and how the story of Theseus and Ariadne helps us see it more clearly.Too often, we treat myths as puzzles to decode or moral lessons to extract. We look for the “meaning” as if it were hidden inside the labyrinth, waiting to be pulled out and pinned down. But what if that approach misses the point?Through the story of Theseus, the Minotaur, and Ariadne’s thread, this episode considers a different way of engaging myth — not as a riddle to solve, but as a landscape to inhabit. Instead of asking, “What does it mean?” we might ask, “Where am I in this story?”Whether you’re interested in mythology, storytelling, or the deeper work of self-understanding, this conversation invites a more spacious, less hurried way of reading the old tales — and perhaps of living your own.Remember: Every character, in every story, is you.Learn more at sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available at youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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Why It's Good That Eve Ate the "Apple" (and what it says about midlife)
In this episode, Scott Bryson revisits the story of Adam and Eve and the idea of the “fortunate fall” — the old theological notion that the expulsion from Eden was not only a loss, but a beginning.We often imagine Eden as a place of perfection, safety, and innocence — a walled garden we were never meant to leave. But what if the story suggests something more complicated? What if growth, knowledge, love, and moral responsibility only become possible once we step beyond the hedges?Through myth, theology, and reflection, this episode explores the tension between innocence and awareness, safety and freedom, and why leaving the garden may be essential to becoming fully human. For anyone navigating midlife, change, or the unsettling realization that certainty doesn’t last forever, Adam and Eve may offer a deeper invitation: not back to paradise, but forward into maturity.Learn more at sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available at youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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How Myth Speaks to Midlife: Nietzsche’s Camel and the Courage to Say Yes
In this episode, Scott Bryson, PhD, explores one of the most memorable passages from Friedrich Nietzsche’s Thus Spoke Zarathustra: the strange and powerful story of the camel, the lion, and the child. It's often referred to as "The Metamorphosis of the Human Spirit."People often ask for a clear example of how myth—or myth-like stories—can illuminate the challenges of midlife and the third quarter of life. Nietzsche’s short parable offers a surprisingly helpful place to start.In Zarathustra’s story, the human spirit first becomes a camel, a creature that kneels down and asks to be loaded with heavy burdens. It carries responsibilities, expectations, and obligations across the desert. Many of us recognize this phase right away. It’s the long stretch of life when we say yes to what’s required of us: careers, families, duties, and the roles we inherit.But eventually the camel reaches the desert, and something begins to change.The spirit becomes a lion, whose task is to confront the great dragon of “Thou Shalt.” The lion’s work is to speak what Nietzsche calls a holy nay—the courage to refuse the inherited rules and expectations that no longer fit.And after the lion comes the final transformation: the child, who embodies a holy yea—a creative yes to life, a freedom to begin again and to shape a life from the inside out.In this episode, we explore how this short passage from Thus Spoke Zarathustra can serve as a map for the second half of life. Many of us have spent decades faithfully carrying the loads placed upon us. But sooner or later we find ourselves in the desert, wondering which burdens are still ours to carry—and which ones we may finally set down.By the end, we turn the lens toward our own lives.Where do we still feel like camels?Where might we need to speak a holy nay?And what might a holy yea look like now?Learn more at sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available at youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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Episode 0: An Intro to The Third Quarter
Welcome to the podcast! Scott Bryson explains here a bit about what he means by the third quarter, and how stories can speak to this particular moment of life.Learn more at sbryson.comPrefer video? These conversations are also available at youtube.com/@brysonthirdquarter
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Writer and professor Scott Bryson, PhD, explores the power of story to help us navigate midlife. Stories for the Third Quarter is about that stretch between traditional adulthood and old age—when the roles we’ve lived inside begin to shift, success no longer always satisfies, and deeper reflections about identity, purpose, and aging rise closer to the surface.Through myth, poetry, psychology, and lived experience, each episode offers reflections for anyone in midlife who senses that something's changing and wants to think more deeply about the second half of life.Learn more at sbryson.com
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