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Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
by Jon Krohn
The latest machine learning, A.I., and data career topics from across both academia and industry are brought to you by host Dr. Jon Krohn on the Super Data Science Podcast. As the quantity of data on our planet doubles every couple of years and with this trend set to continue for decades to come, there's an unprecedented opportunity for you to make a meaningful impact in your lifetime. In conversation with the biggest names in the data science industry, Jon cuts through hype to fuel that professional impact.Whether you're curious about getting started in a data career or you're a deep technical expert, whether you'd like to understand what A.I. is or you'd like to integrate more data-driven processes into your business, we have inspiring guests and lighthearted conversation for you to enjoy.We cover tools, techniques, and implementation tricks across data collection, databases, analytics, predictive modeling, visualization, software engineering, r
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1010: Fable 5 as Advisor: Anthropic's Two-Model Pattern for Smarter, Cheaper Agents
In Episode #1010, Jon Krohn digs into “the advisor strategy”, a clever pattern that pairs a fast, cheap executor model with a frontier-class advisor it can consult mid-task, all inside a single API call. Every agent builder faces the same tension: frontier models plan best but cost too much to run on every turn, while small models fumble the decisions that matter. Anthropic’s advisor tool resolves it with roughly a one-line code change, and the benchmarks are startling: Sonnet with an Opus advisor scored higher than Sonnet alone while costing 11.9% less, and Haiku’s BrowseComp score more than doubled at 85% lower cost than Sonnet solo. Jon covers the newest Fable 5 numbers, the practical gotchas, how it differs from OpenAI’s router and why AI progress is now as much about composing models as training bigger ones. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/1010 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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1009: How AI Is Quietly Saving Lives, with Steve Mock
In Episode #1009, Steve Mock (investor at Blumberg Capital, five-time entrepreneur and creator of aisavedme.org), joins Jon Krohn to explore the quiet layer of everyday AI adoption that rarely gets documented. After his 84-year-old father asked a deceptively simple question, “How does one use AI?”, Steve built a place for people to share how AI is actually helping them. The stories that came in surprised him: they’re rarely about the technology and almost always about human outcomes, caregiving, communication, learning, confidence and connection. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/1009 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:02) Where “AI Saved Me” came from, an 84-year-old dad’s simple question (14:27) The healthcare pattern, using AI to become your own advocate (22:37) The education pattern, personalized study and simulated office hours (27:33) The fulfillment pattern, offloading grunt work to focus on what matters (43:07) Building the whole site as a non-programmer (50:14) The investor’s lens, vertical AI and the “data flywheel” moat
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1008: The AI-Native Startup Playbook
In Episode #1008, Jon Krohn digs into Anthropic's 35-page Founder's Playbook and pulls out the practical guidance for each of its four startup stages: Idea, MVP, Launch and Scale. AI has erased the three bottlenecks that historically gated company-building — capital, headcount and technical skill — turning the founder from individual contributor into an "orchestrator of agents." Along the way, Jon covers the trap of mistaking building for validating, using AI as a structured devil's advocate against your own idea, the compounding danger of "agentic technical debt," two litmus tests for real product-market fit, and the three-layer moat that keeps a well-funded incumbent from copying you. His takeaway: this is classic lean-startup discipline, updated for an era where execution is cheap and judgment is the scarce resource. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/1008 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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1007: How to Find Solid Career Ground in the AI Era, with 80,000 Hours Founder Ben Todd
Benjamin Todd, co-founder and President of 80,000 Hours and author of the new Penguin Random House book 80,000 Hours: How to Have a Fulfilling Career That Does Good, joins Jon Krohn for a major update on career strategy in the AI era, his first appearance since before ChatGPT existed. Ben explains why “follow your passion” is backwards and why rare, valuable skills used to help others are what actually generate lasting fulfillment, the ABZ framework for planning under deep uncertainty, why the only durable move is to keep shifting onto whatever bottleneck AI can’t yet clear, and how a human-level digital worker becomes superhuman almost immediately. He and Jon also map the risk landscape, power-seeking AI, extreme power concentration, engineered pandemics, gradual disempowerment, and S-risks, before landing on a hopeful, actionable note: your career is a bigger lever than ever. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/1007 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (06:44) The ABZ framework for career planning under deep uncertainty (14:30) Why “follow your passion” is backwards and what builds fulfillment instead (20:52) The moving bottleneck: how to stay valuable as AI keeps improving (29:54) Why a human-level digital worker becomes superhuman almost immediately (51:11) Power-seeking AI and extreme power concentration (1:16:11) Why your career is a bigger lever than ever
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1006: In Case You Missed It in June 2026
In this month's episode of ICYMI, hear from Chip Huyen, Andrey Kurenkov, Frank Basso and Gilbert Eijkelenboom, discussing why moats are shifting toward physical systems and accumulated product intuition, how Astrocade built vibe coding before the term existed, what it's really like inside a deafeningly loud AI data center, why only 15% of people are technically self-aware and whether AGI requires anything like consciousness. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/1006 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (00:00) The Cost of Building Software Is Going to Zero — Now What? (10:18) We Built Vibe Coding Before Anyone Called It That (21:08) AI Data Centers Are Louder Than a Rock Concert (28:39) Why 85% of Data Scientists Can't Communicate Their Work (33:46) Are Humans Also Just Predicting the Next Token?
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1005: People Skills for Analytical Thinkers, with Bestselling Author Gilbert Eijkelenboom
Gilbert Eijkelenboom, bestselling author of People Skills for Analytical Thinkers and founder of the training firm MindSpeaking joins Jon Krohn to make the case that communication is a core data skill, not an optional extra. Gilbert shares the “And, But, Therefore” framework for turning dense analysis into a story stakeholders act on, the research suggesting only around 15% of people are genuinely self-aware (and how journaling, meditation, and exercise help close that gap), how childhood experiences install behavioral “algorithms” we carry into the workplace and why behavior change precedes attitude change, so doing small, uncomfortable things for 30 days can rewire how you see yourself. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/1005 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:54) Why your analysis only creates value once people actually use it (24:53) What it really means that only ~15% of people are self-aware and how to close the gap (34:01) The “And, But, Therefore” framework for data storytelling (37:44) How childhood installs personal “algorithms” and the keep/stop/start question to surface them (46:55) Why behavior change comes before attitude change (the 30-day practice) (50:33) Defusing the trigger between data teams and pushy stakeholders
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1004: Recursive Self-Improvement
Could an AI get good enough at AI research to build its own, more capable successor and kick off a compounding loop? That’s recursive self-improvement (RSI) and it surged into the conversation after Anthropic revealed that, as of May 2026, Claude wrote more than 80% of the code merged into its production codebase. In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn separates today’s AI-assisted coding from true RSI, walks through the accelerating evidence - METR’s shrinking task “time horizon,” Google DeepMind’s AlphaEvolve, Andrej Karpathy’s overnight training-tuner, weighs Jack Clark’s 60% bet that AI builds its own successor by 2028 against the compute, data and “marketing” skeptics. As ever, Jon lands in the optimistic middle. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/1004 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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1003: Building an AI Data Center End to End, with Lightning AI’s Frank Basso
Frank Basso, VP of Infrastructure at Lightning AI, joins Jon Krohn for a rare ground-level tour of the one layer of the AI stack the show had never covered in over a thousand episodes: the physical data center. Frank explains how Lightning AI provisions its 35,000-plus GPUs through hyperscale co-location, why everything new is liquid-to-chip cooled, how GPUs talk to each other over ultra-fast east-west networks, and what it’s actually like to stand inside a 110-decibel AI data hall. He also debunks the most persistent myths about data-center water and electricity use, and makes the case for fuel cells, nuclear power, and 800-volt DC distribution as the path forward. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/1003 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:47) What actually makes an AI data center different from a traditional one (06:04) How Lightning AI provisions its 35,000+ GPUs through hyperscale co-location (24:01) Why liquid cooling doesn’t waste water, debunking the biggest data-center myth (29:46) East-west vs. north-south networks, explained (43:47) “Screaming banshees”: why AI data halls run at 105–110 decibels (51:52) Why data centers don’t actually drive up your power bill
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1002: Fable 5: The Full Story from Capabilities to Drama
Anthropic’s Claude Fable 5 was the most capable AI model ever released to the public and it lasted just three days before the US government forced it offline. Jon Krohn unpacks both halves of the story: what makes Fable 5 special, and why it was pulled. Fable 5 and its locked-down sibling Mythos 5 are the same model separated only by safeguards, in a new “Mythos-class” tier above Opus. Jon covers its state-of-the-art benchmarks, premium $10/$50-per-million-token pricing, conservative safety classifiers, and the federal export-control directive, reportedly sparked by an Amazon-flagged “jailbreak” that took it down. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/1002 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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1001: How AI Erased My Career Moat, an Episode #1001 Special: Jon Krohn interviewed by Kirill Eremenko
For this episode #1001 special, the tables are turned: SuperDataScience founder Kirill Eremenko takes the host’s chair and Jon Krohn is the guest. They trace Jon Krohn’s path from an Oxford neuroscience PhD to a New York hedge fund to founding the AI consulting firm Y Carrot, why he regrets leaving academia and how tools like Claude Code erased his hard-won technical moat and why that makes skilled engineers more valuable than ever. Along the way: whether AI is a bubble, Jevons paradox and the data-center boom, the RICE framework for choosing AI projects, the single biggest reason AI projects fail and how a well-built AI agent could give anyone “Christopher Nolan–like” focus. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/1001 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:42) From an Oxford neuroscience PhD to AI consulting (17:25) Defining AGI and why consciousness isn’t required (30:39) Are we in an AI bubble? Why we benefit either way (46:32) Jevons paradox: why cheaper AI means more data centers (01:08:31) The RICE framework for prioritizing AI projects (01:15:08) The number-one reason AI projects fail in production (01:31:50) AI, attention, and protecting your wellbeing
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1000: Ten Years of the Super Data Science Podcast, with Jon, Kirill and Special Guests
For this landmark 1,000th episode and the show’s 10-year anniversary, host Jon Krohn is joined by SuperDataScience founder Kirill Eremenko, who hosted the podcast for its first 400-plus episodes before handing over the reins. In a first for the show, the episode was recorded live with the audience invited to join on air, alongside surprise appearances from the team, longtime guests, and even Jon’s family. Together, Jon Krohn and Kirill look back on a decade of the podcast and field listener questions on AI’s biggest opportunities, the build-versus-buy dilemma, how to break into the field today, and how to stay grounded amid the relentless pace of AI. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/1000 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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999: What's Left to Build When Software Is Free, with Chip Huyen
Chip Huyen joins host Jon Krohn for this milestone episode 999 to talk about her record-breaking book "AI Engineering" the most-read title on the O'Reilly platform last year and how the AI landscape has shifted since her last appearance. Chip breaks down what separates AI engineering from machine learning engineering, makes the case for a "start simple" workflow, gets candid about the real costs of running LLMs in production, and shares why she's now fascinated by physical AI, robotics, and world models and why the durable problems worth solving are increasingly human ones. Jon Krohn guides the conversation from the practical content of the book through to where the field is heading next. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/999 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (06:48) What separates AI engineering from machine learning engineering (14:44) The “start simple” approach: prompting, then RAG, then fine-tuning (18:19) Why web search is so painfully expensive in production (35:11) Is the “ChatGPT moment” for physical AI really here? (52:21) Why the durable problems left to solve are people problems
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998: In Case You Missed It in May 2026
In this month’s episode of ICYMI, Jon Krohn explores how AI agents are simultaneously creating new risks and unlocking powerful new ways of working with data. Hear from Anneka Gupta, Cal Al-Dhubaib, Trevor Manz, Jazmia Henry, Jeremy Mumford, and Jacob Miller, discussing why the old cybersecurity playbook breaks down in the age of Claude Mythos, how the notebook became an AI agent’s working memory, what it really takes to build a foundation model from scratch, and why failing slowly is the most expensive mistake an AI team can make. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/998 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (00:40) Why Claude Mythos Changes Everything About Cybersecurity (08:11) Why Your Notebook Should Be Your Agent’s Working Memory (13:19) What It Actually Takes to Build a Foundation Model From Scratch (20:46) Failing Slowly Is the Most Expensive AI Mistake
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997: How This Text-to-Video-Game AI Startup Hit 20M Users
Dr. Andrey Kurenkov returns to the show to talk about Astrocade's astronomical growth from pre-alpha to over 20 million engaged users, what it actually takes to build a vibe-coding platform that scales, and how the broader AI landscape has shifted since his last appearance. Andrey shares behind-the-scenes lessons from building B2C user-generated content products, why the real moat is community rather than tech, and his current thinking on humanoid robotics, AGI, and the AI risks people actually overlook. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/997 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:11) The Astrocade elevator pitch and how it grew to 20M users (16:19) Why there's no secret sauce behind the platform (24:56) UGC as the real moat, not the AI (46:57) Why household humanoid robots are now 2–3 years away (58:33) What AGI actually means, and why Andrey is an ASI skeptic
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996: TrueFoundry’s Nikunj Bajaj on How to Get $100M Returns on AI Agent Deployments
TrueFoundry co-founder and CEO Nikunj Bajaj speaks to Jon Krohn about how enterprises like Nvidia and Siemens are realizing returns of over $100 million from single agent deployments, the AI gateway architecture that makes it possible to connect, observe, and govern agents at scale, and why the familiar advice to “start small” is the wrong way to roll out AI agents inside a large organization. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/996 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:21) What TrueFoundry does and why agents in production need a control plane (06:32) Breaking down the AI gateway: the model, MCP, and agent gateways (16:47) Taming tool sprawl with scoped, read-only MCP access (19:10) Why the agent gateway is the hard part and the kill switch most teams lack (22:24) The five-workflow framework behind $100M agent deployments
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995: End-to-End Foundation Models for the Energy Industry, with Jazmia Henry
Jazmia Henry joins Jon Krohn to break down what it actually takes to build end-to-end foundation models for the energy industry. From wrangling decades of handwritten oil-and-gas documents into usable training data, to bespoke tokenizers, reinforcement learning, and inference at scale, Jazmia walks through every stage of the stack. Along the way she explains why reinforcement learning models are "bursty," what reward hacking is and how her Grounded Continuous Evaluation framework fixes it, and revisits the 2023 NeurIPS paper that argued, to widespread skepticism at the time, that scaling bad data degrades model performance. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/995 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (10:06) The User Agnosticism Tenet (20:02) The Zillow Offers parable (23:25) Why workflows should come before agents (29:57) Why data engineering is the bedrock of AI (52:41) Why velocity is the only durable moat
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994: AI’s Putting Recent Grads Out of Work; Here’s How to Get Hired Anyway!
Unemployment for recent computer-science graduates now rivals rates for fine-arts and anthropology majors, and undergraduate CS enrollment fell 11% in 2025. In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn walks through the data on both sides of the debate, from Stanford research showing a 13% employment drop for young workers in AI-exposed jobs, to Federal Reserve studies finding no statistically detectable link between AI adoption and reduced hiring. Jon shares his own view on where the truth lies and offers five concrete pieces of advice for graduates and senior professionals alike on how to get hired in 2026. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/993 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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993: How to Build AI-First Organizations, with Jacob Miller and Jeremy Mumford
For years, AI content has come in the form of “use this library, use this tool” tutorials that age out within months. Jacob Miller and Jeremy Mumford, co-authors of the brand new Wiley book Architected Intelligence, wanted to write something different, a guide to the higher-level principles of building AI products and AI-first organizations that will still be relevant in five or ten years. In this episode, the two Pattern engineers walk Jon Krohn through the core ideas of their book: why you should design products and processes so they can be executed by a human, an AI agent, or any hybrid combination; why most companies are still treating hallucinations as a model problem when they’re actually a data curation problem; why the natural progression of AI development goes skills, workflows, agents, not straight to agents; and why velocity, not models or data, is the only durable competitive advantage left. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/993 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (10:06) The User Agnosticism Tenet (20:02) The Zillow Offers parable (23:25) Why workflows should come before agents (29:57) Why data engineering is the bedrock of AI (52:41) Why velocity is the only durable moat
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992: Tokenmaxxing vs AI Hardware Bottlenecks
While “tokenmaxxing”, the social media trend of maximizing AI token consumption as a vanity metric, takes off online, the physical infrastructure behind AI is slamming into serious bottlenecks. In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn maps out the four overlapping supply-chain constraints choking AI compute: GPUs (with NVIDIA Blackwell sold out through mid-2026), high-bandwidth memory (quintupled demand since 2023, only three manufacturers worldwide), CPUs (agentic AI requires 12x more CPUs per GPU than chatbots), and electricity (Gartner projects power shortages will restrict 40% of AI data centres by 2027). Find out why the five biggest hyperscalers are on track to spend $725 billion on AI infrastructure in 2026, where the reasons for optimism lie, and why Jon says you should definitely not tokenmaxx. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/992 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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991: Pair Programming with AI in Your Python Notebook, with Dr. Trevor Manz
Dr. Trevor Manz of Marimo talks to Jon Krohn about Marimo Pair, an open-source agent skill that teaches coding agents like Claude Code how to drive a reactive Python notebook, reading cell state, running Python in the kernel, taking screenshots of cells, and iterating on data tasks the way agents iterate on traditional software. Trevor also unpacks recursive language models, his AnyWidget project that bridges Python and the web, and his journey from a Wisconsin small town and Harvard bioinformatics research to founding-engineer life at Marimo. Listen to the episode to hear why no matter where AI takes us, curiosity and going deep on a topic will always be valuable. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/991 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (07:04) What Marimo Pair is and how it teaches agents to use notebooks as a tool (13:03) How agent skills work as folders of markdown files (24:15) Trevor's day-to-day workflow combining Claude Code and Marimo Pair (31:51) Recursive language models and why they could be the future of agentic reasoning (57:33) Career advice on curiosity, going deep, and becoming a domain expert
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990: Inside Mythos: Anthropic's Locked-Down Frontier Model
Anthropic has built a frontier AI model so capable at finding software vulnerabilities that it has decided not to release it to the general public. In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn breaks down Claude Mythos Preview, a general-purpose model whose hacking abilities emerged as a side effect of broad improvements in code understanding and reasoning. Find out how Mythos achieved a nearly 100x improvement over Opus 4.6 on Firefox exploit generation, why Mozilla patched 271 vulnerabilities in a single release using an early version of the model, and what Project Glasswing Anthropic’s gated industry consortium means for the future of cybersecurity. Jon also shares practical tips for securing the code you’re generating with AI tools. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/990 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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989: Security for Mythos-Era Agentic Risks, with Rubrik’s Anneka Gupta and Cal Al-Dhubaib
Rubrik’s Anneka Gupta and Cal Al-Dhubaib speak to Jon Krohn about cybersecurity measures, the risks AI in business might pose for malicious attacks, and why AI should be kept “boring.” Find out how Rubrik safeguards client data, what zero trust is in the context of cybersecurity, and why cyber-resilience needs to be a top priority for companies looking to adopt AI. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/989 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:25) All about Rubrik (08:51) The announcement of Claude Mythos (26:26) Utilizing zero trust (40:36) About the Rubrik agent cloud
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988: In Case You Missed It in April 2026
In this month’s episode of In Case You Missed It, Jon Krohn talks to guests about memory and education, and how artificial intelligence is continuing to help lower the barriers to access. Hear from Matt Glickman, Traci Walker-Griffith, Richmond Alake, and Linda Haviv, discussing the foundations of AI agent memory, how engineers can develop at scale, and why they believe AI could be your child’s perfect tutor in the classroom. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/988 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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987: AI Infrastructure, Ray, and Why Nonlinear Careers Win, with Linda Haviv
Linda Haviv talks to Jon Krohn about staying current on AI matters, why open-source technology is narrowing the gap in its race with proprietary models, and how being a content creator in tech is key to career growth and longevity. She emphasizes that non-linear pathways to a career in tech can give applicants an edge, and stresses the importance of continuous upskilling to “stay relevant.” In her view, systems thinking is becoming more important than coding skills. Hear why in this episode. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/987 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:43) Linda Haviv on AI education (13:16) The future of coding (27:00) Having a side hustle in today’s economy (31:01) On becoming a content creator for tech (1:00:14) How open source could disrupt the AI landscape
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986: Building Hardware is Hard but AI Agents Help, with Kishore Subramanian
CTO of Propel Software Kishore Subramanian talks to Jon Krohn about how product lifecycle management (PLM) software and quality management systems (QMS) help ensure compliance, record management, and quality assurance. Listen to the episode to hear Kishore Subramanian talk about best practices for getting started with Agentforce 360, his top tips for deploying AI projects, and why yoga and meditation could make you better at building AI products! Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/984 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (05:21) How Propel Software meets its customers’ demands (07:57) About Propel One AI (13:31) A case study for Salesforce’s Agentforce 360 Platform (17:08) How to build an enterprise-ready agent with Agentforce 360 (19:21) How to get your AI tool into production
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985: The Four Types of Memory Every AI Agent Needs, with Richmond Alake
Oracle’s Director of AI Developer Experience Richmond Alake returns to the show to talk to Jon Krohn about agent memory; the network of systems, models, databases and LLMs that enable AI agents to learn and adapt over time. Listen to the episode to hear about Richmond’s “100 Days of Agent Memory” initiative, retrieval-augmented generation’s (RAG) limitations with AI agents, the layers of the AI agent stack, and what makes the Oracle AI database so useful to developers. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/985 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:15) What agent memory is and why it’s important (28:28) RAG’s limitations for AI agents (35:19) What matters in the AI agent stack beyond memory (41:34) Why memory was undervalued in the AI agent stack
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984: Building AI Agents Where 99.9% Accuracy Isn't Good Enough, with Raju Malhotra
Raju Malhotra, Chief Product and Technology Officer at Certinia, talks to Jon Krohn about the so-called SaaSpocalypse and how agentic AI is proving the doomsayers wrong. Listen to the episode to hear more about Certinia’s work with Salesforce and building with Agentforce 360, the three elements required for enterprise-grade agents, how AI agents have benefitted Certinia’s customers, and how to keep your work portfolio fresh and interesting to recruiters. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/984 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:24) What Certinia does for professional services companies (08:45) Why the "SaaSpocalypse" is wrong (13:19) Agentforce 360 and how Certinia builds on it (15:06) The three elements required for enterprise-grade agents (18:02) How AI agents have impacted Certinia's customers
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983: AI in the Classroom: How a Top Elementary School Is Doing It Right, with Principal Traci Walker Griffith
My guest today took a public school that was about to be shut down and turned it into the number one school in Boston, and AI is her latest secret weapon. In a long-overdue episode on AI for supporting children’s education, hear directly from Principal Traci Walker Griffith how her teachers have been experimenting with AI in classrooms, what works, what doesn’t work, and what’s next for kids as LLMs continue to improve. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/983 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:38) The Eliot School’s transformation from closure list to number one in Boston (08:54) How the school began using Claude for AI-assisted writing feedback (18:14) How younger students benefit from AI behind the scenes (23:46) How older students interact with AI directly (41:11) Three prompt engineering failure modes and how to fix them (55:29) Responding to the Brookings report on AI risks in education
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982: In Case You Missed It in March 2026
Jon Krohn rounds up March’s interviews in this ICYMI episode. Hear from AI and data science experts across the fields of education and business in this wide-ranging series of clips that take listeners from the Renaissance to the near future. Guests include Lin Quiao (Episode 971), Chris Fregly (Episode 973), Zack Kass (Episode 975), Kyunghyun Cho (Episode 977), and Rohit Choudhary (Episode 979). Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/982 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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981: How Data Engineers Are “10x’ing” Themselves With Agents, feat. Matt Glickman
Matt Glickman talks to Jon Krohn about co-founding the agentic-platform startup, Genesis Computing, how his experience at Goldman Sachs paved the way for developing AI agents, and where he thinks agentic AI has just as much value as a company’s human employees. This February, Genesis Computing revealed how its platform can offer the guardrails so crucial to businesses, alongside increased capabilities that help execute entire workflows from research to deployment. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/981 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (12:56) Cloud adoption in finance and healthcare (18:28) How Genesis Computing uses AI agents (31:05) AI agents replacing humans in the workplace (56:25) An argument for encouraging enterprises to use AI
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980: AI Making Theoretical Physics Breakthroughs
A team of theoretical physicists from Harvard, Cambridge, the Institute for Advanced Study, and Vanderbilt used OpenAI’s models not just as a tool, but as a collaborator, cracking a problem in particle physics that had stymied them for months. In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn walks through how GPT-5.2 Pro simplified a 32-variable mathematical expression into a single line, proposed what it called the “obvious generalization” for any number of gluons, and how a more powerful internal model then produced a formal proof after 12 hours of autonomous reasoning. Find out why this may be a template for AI-assisted scientific discovery and what it means for the future of research. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/980 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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979: Agentic Data Management and the Future of Enterprise AI, with Rohit Choudhary
For years, Jon has been quoting the stat that the world's data is roughly doubling every year. His guest today says that’s way too conservative, he’s seeing enterprise data soon growing at close to 10x per year. And most organizations are nowhere near ready for what that means. In this episode, Rohit Choudhary, founder and CEO of Acceldata, explains how the agentic data management platform his team has built helps enterprises make their increasingly vast amounts of data self-aware, self-optimizing, and AI-ready. He breaks down why governance needs to be operational and real-time rather than a one-time compliance exercise, and shares his view on why the most valuable professionals in the age of AI won’t be the best programmers, they’ll be the ones with the clearest thinking and the deepest domain expertise. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/979 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:26) How Rohit coined the term “data observability” (06:04) Agentic data management use cases (12:46) Why fixing data at the point of consumption is 1000x more expensive (30:49) Career paths and skills for the age of AI (42:38) Why enterprise data will soon grow at nearly 10x per year
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978: A Post-Transformer Architecture Crushes Sudoku (Transformers Solve ~0%)
A game millions of people solve over morning coffee is exposing a fundamental weakness in today’s most powerful AI models. In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn breaks down Pathway’s new Sudoku Extreme benchmark, roughly 250,000 of the hardest Sudoku puzzles available and why leading LLMs like o3-mini, DeepSeek-R1, and Claude 3.7 Sonnet scored effectively zero percent, while Pathway’s post-transformer BDH architecture achieved 97.4% accuracy at a fraction of the cost. Listen to the episode to find out what BDH is doing differently, why Sudoku performance matters far beyond puzzles, and what this means for the future of AI reasoning. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/978 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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977: Attention, World Models and the Future of AI, with Prof. Kyunghyun Cho
What’s going to be the next big step function that blasts us forward in AI capabilities? To find out, Jon Krohn sits down with Professor Kyunghyun Cho, whose 200,000 citations and co-authorship of the first paper on attention place him among the most influential AI researchers in the world. In this episode, Kyunghyun explains why today’s models have already captured most correlations in passive data, making the real challenge about actively choosing which data to collect. He also weighs in on the open debate around world models, whether AI needs high-fidelity, step-by-step imagination or whether a high-level latent representation that lets it skip ahead is sufficient and shares the surprising discovery that 80% of his 200 computer science students had never installed a coding agent. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/977 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (06:43) The story behind the attention mechanism (28:43) Sample efficiency and active data collection (39:04) World models and latent planning (49:52) Teaching undergrads with coding agents (58:21) Reranking, multi-stage ranking, and the foundations of RAG
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976: NVIDIA’s Nemotron 3 Super: The Perfect LLM for Multi-Agent Systems
NVIDIA just dropped Nemotron 3 Super, a 120-billion-parameter open-weight model that only activates 12 billion parameters at a time and it’s built for the agentic AI era. In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn breaks down the model’s hybrid Mamba-Transformer architecture, its million-token context window, and why its combination of frontier-class reasoning with blazing-fast throughput matters for anyone building multi-agent systems. Find out how Nemotron 3 Super claimed the #1 spot on the DeepResearch Bench leaderboards, which companies are already adopting it, and where you can start using it today. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/976 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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975: Unmetered Intelligence is Heralding the Next Renaissance, with Zack Kass
Zack Kass speaks to Jon Krohn about his bestselling, tech-positive book, The Next Renaissance, that charts the rapid progress of humanity and the benefits that artificial intelligence will bring to us, as well as why a future where intelligence is a cheap and abundant resource will give humanity an edge. Elsewhere in the show, Zack discusses why it’s important to hold parents, teachers and students accountable for their education, why it is incumbent on us to build a healthier relationship with technology, and his 4 principles for thriving in the age of AI. This episode is brought to you by the Cisco, by Acceldata and by ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/975 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:14) About Zack Kass’ book, The Next Renaissance (20:18) The importance of literacy skills in the age of AI (28:01) AI in education (41:01) Principles for living in the era of AI
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974: When Will The AI Bubble Burst? How Bad Will It Be?
In this week’s Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn holds the AI bubble up to the light. He points to the deep greyzone found in AI startups like Cluely that are established on dubious ideas (Cluely’s tagline was “cheat on everything”) and funding bluster, as well as the staggering spending by companies on infrastructure and researcher salaries. Listen to the episode to hear about the historical precedents to the AI bubble that go all the way back to the invention of the railway, what to make of current investments in AI, and what you can do about these changes as an AI practitioner. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/974 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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973: AI Systems Performance Engineering, with Chris Fregly
No one should be manually writing code in 2026, thinks Chris Fregly, Jon Krohn’s guest on this week’s episode. In this interview about Chris’ latest book, AI Systems Performance Engineering, he explains why it’s so important to consider memory bandwidth when evaluating GPU performance, that understanding the full hardware software stack is the most valuable skill for anyone working in AI development, and which shortcuts we still shouldn’t ever take when writing code, even though we might be outsourcing a great deal to generative AI. This episode is brought to you by the Cisco, by Acceldata and by ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/973 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:39) Why Chris wrote AI Systems Performance Engineering (21:39) Essential coding metrics (37:24) The importance of inference when coding (42:11) How to manage workflows while using AI agents (51:37) Where and how to invest in the AI market
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972: In Case You Missed It in February 2026
Jon Krohn recaps the month of February in this episode of In Case You Missed It. Across four interviews with Will Falcon (Episode 965), Tom Griffiths (Episode 969), Antje Barth (Episode 963), and Praveen Murugesan (Episode 967), Jon questions the brains behind some of the AI industry’s most innovative companies about launching a startup, developing a popular product, what artificial intelligence can still learn from human intelligence, and how AI might finally start to think on its own. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/972 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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971: 90% of The World’s Data is Private; Lin Qiao’s Fireworks AI is Unlocking It
Lin Qiao, CEO of Fireworks AI, talks to Jon Krohn about how she builds effective models quickly, why coding agents can perform at the level of a junior engineer, and what she attributes to the success of Fireworks AI: True to its name, the company exploded into the AI industry with over $300 million secured in venture capital, as well as netting a further $250 million Series C funding. For Lin, many enterprises miss out by not being familiar with open models. Open models give a lot of control to the user, offering customizability and at a much lower price point. Listen to hear how Fireworks AI helps companies continue to save money through AI. This episode is brought to you by the Dell, by Intel, by Cisco and by Acceldata. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/971 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:19) All about Fireworks AI (24:16) Why companies need to take notice of open models (33:05) The commercial viability of slow-reasoning models (38:51) Fireworks AI’s approach to model performance evaluations
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970: The “100x Engineer”: How to Be One, But Should You?
Working with code-gen models and Claude Code: In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn addresses how AI superstars like Andrej Karpathy are using AI agents in their coding work, the outlook for code-gen in 2026, and how you can get started. Hear about Karpathy’s work as well as the soaring success of Peter Steinberger and how he managed to surpass the GitHub commit rate of teams as an individual working with AI agents. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/970 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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969: The Laws of Thought: The Math of Minds and Machines, with Prof. Tom Griffiths
Princeton Professor Tom Griffiths talks to Jon Krohn about his new book, The Laws of Thought, which grapples with the mathematical models behind biological and artificial intelligence, and what makes the human brain so fascinating for psychologists and computer scientists to study. In this episode, he details how the mathematical principles governing the external world can also be used to explore cognitive science, or “the internal world.” This episode is brought to you by the Dell, by Intel, by Cisco and by Acceldata. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/969 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:18) Tom Griffiths’ current research (21:23) On mathematical inference in LLMs (35:19) How to engineer inductive bias (52:00) How to model curiosity into AI systems
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968: Is AI Automating Away All Coding Jobs?
Now that AI agents can develop new apps from product development to delivery, do AI developers have reason to worry about their careers? Podcast host Jon Krohn addresses the stark predictions that AI could “eliminate half of all entry-level white-collar jobs” by going back to the data. Find out why the numbers show a very different picture, which in-demand occupations have increased by 40% since late 2022, and Jon’s advice on why technical professionals shouldn’t panic in this latest Five-Minute Friday. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/968 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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967: AI for the Physical World, with Samsara's Praveen Murugesan
VP of Engineering at Samsara Praveen Murugesan talks to Jon Krohn about processing 20 trillion data points covering 90 billion miles across private and public sectors, how the company helps truckers who operate long hours and travel for long stretches without cellphone signal, and who they’re looking to hire to help this physical AI pioneer keep on developing high-impact solutions for real-world problems. And, if you’re looking to work for the company, there’s no better time to apply, and you’ll want to listen to the end of the show to hear exactly what Praveen looks for in new hires. This episode is brought to you by the Dell, by Intel, by Acceldata and by the ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/967 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:01) The challenges of working with logistics data (16:43) Operating Edge AI in logistics and construction sectors (28:43) How quantum computing might redefine logistics (40:09) The real cost of swapping human heuristics for algorithmic planning (44:45) How to get a job at Samsara
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966: The Moltbook Phenomenon: OpenClaw Unleashed
Jon Krohn gives Five-Minute Friday listeners all the details about the new social network causing a stir, Moltbook. What makes Moltbook so unique is that this is the first network designed just for AI agents. It’s an exclusive club, only its alleged 1.5 million registered agents can post, comment, and upvote, but we can watch this real-world experiment in agent ecology from the sidelines. Listen to the episode to hear the fascinating, if disturbing, story of Moltbook’s swift turn into facilitating a digital theocracy and forms of government, and whether this development is a sign of an approaching singularity or rather AI continuing to ape human thought and turn it into slop. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/966 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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965: From PhD Side Project to $500M ARR: Will Falcon’s PyTorch Lightning Story
CEO of Lightning AI Will Falcon speaks to podcast host and Lightning AI fellow Jon Krohn about the company’s merger with Voltage Park, and why Will has named it the “full-stack AI neo-cloud for enterprises and frontier labs”. Lightning AI’s offer is a secure, flexible, and collaborative environment that can run on the cloud, all essentials for early-stage startups. Listen to the episode to hear Will Falcon discuss Lightning AI Studio, founding PyTorch Lightning, and how he came to found his AI company. This episode is brought to you by the Dell, by Intel, by Fabi and by Cisco. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/965 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:20) Lightning AI’s merger with Voltage Park (20:54) About neo-clouds (43:51) How Will founded Lightning AI (54:48) Current gaps in the AI in workplace
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964: In Case You Missed It in January 2026
In this first of the year ICYMI episode, Jon Krohn selects his favorite moments from January’s SuperDataScience interviews. Listen to why incentivizing workers is the best way to get them to disclose their use of AI tools and pave the way for an AI-forward future, how AI continues to mimic human development in its own evolution, the importance of evaluation in building AI systems, and how to keep your best employees (and also: how to know your value) with guests Sadie St. Lawrence, Ashwin Rajeeva, Sinan Ozdemir, Vijoy Pandey, and Ethan Mollick. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/964 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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963: Reinforcement Learning for Agents, with Amazon AGI Labs’ Antje Barth
Bestselling author and Gen AI instructor Antje Barth talks to Jon Krohn about her work at Amazon’s AGI Labs and their newest product Nova Act, as well as where we will see the most success with AI agents and how AI developers can reap those rewards. This episode is brought to you by the Dell, by Intel, by Fabi and by Cisco. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/963 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:23) Amazon’s latest product, Nova Act (11:05) How Nova Act tests reliability (24:01) Where Amazon’s 1000s of gen AI deployments succeed (31:32) How Nova Act maintains its security (36:32) The increasing value of agentic AI developers
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962: Wharton Prof Ethan Mollick on Why Your AI Strategy Is Already Obsolete
Bestselling author of Co-Intelligence: Living and Working with AI Ethan Mollick speaks to Jon Krohn about just how much US firms have to gain from a willingness to adopt and experiment with AI, as well as the reality behind AI use among employees and the frontier models set to support them even further. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/962 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information.
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961: Distributed Artificial Superintelligence, with Dr. Vijoy Pandey
Dr. Vijoy Pandey returns to the show to talk to Jon Krohn about Cisco’s work to advance medicine and mitigate the impact of climate change with distributed artificial super-intelligence. Dr. Vijoy Pandey believes in a future where humans and AI agents work together to tackle our biggest challenges. For this to happen, we will need to have multi-agent systems and open-source platforms that let agents work together, avoiding the phenomenon of AI agents being “isolated geniuses” unable to collaborate. He elaborates on what Cisco is doing to close this gap. This episode is brought to you by the Dell, by Intel, by Fabi and by Scaylor. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/961 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected] for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:55) A definition of artificial super-intelligence (14:03) Distributed learning through Cisco’s Outshift (21:29) The semantic protocols for sharing intent in a distributed artificial super-intelligence framework (37:44) The cognitive memory fabric of the distributed artificial super-intelligence framework (46:24) Using cognitive engines as part of the distributed artificial super-intelligence framework
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The latest machine learning, A.I., and data career topics from across both academia and industry are brought to you by host Dr. Jon Krohn on the Super Data Science Podcast. As the quantity of data on our planet doubles every couple of years and with this trend set to continue for decades to come, there's an unprecedented opportunity for you to make a meaningful impact in your lifetime. In conversation with the biggest names in the data science industry, Jon cuts through hype to fuel that professional impact.Whether you're curious about getting started in a data career or you're a deep technical expert, whether you'd like to understand what A.I. is or you'd like to integrate more data-driven processes into your business, we have inspiring guests and lighthearted conversation for you to enjoy.We cover tools, techniques, and implementation tricks across data collection, databases, analytics, predictive modeling, visualization, software engineering, r
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