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Send us Fan MailIn this powerful final episode, I sit down with Dr. Robert Montgomery, Chair of Surgery at NYU Grossman School of Medicine, Director of the NYU Langone Transplant Institute, and one of TIME’s 100 Most Influential People of 2025. A heart transplant recipient himself, Dr. Montgomery shares how personal loss and major health challenges fueled his drive to push boundaries in medicine. In our conversation, we explore his leadership philosophy, his commitment to expanding access to life-saving transplants, and the importance of mentorship in shaping future surgeons. With a career marked by groundbreaking achievements, Dr. Montgomery offers invaluable insights for aspiring surgical leaders and highlights the transformative power of organ transplantation in saving lives. This episode is a fitting conclusion to the season, as Dr. Montgomery’s experiences and advice leave a lasting impression on anyone striving to make an impact in the world of surgery. TakeawaysPersonal challenges made him more focused during residency.Pushing boundaries is essential for innovation in medicine.Vision and culture are key to building successful teams.Empathy should guide healthcare practices.Strategic partnerships can expand access to transplants.Smart risks can lead to significant advancements in healthcare.Surround yourself with the best possible people.You have to be fearless but responsible in decision-making.Be present in the moment with patients and colleagues.Be open to learning from both positive and negative experiences.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Bellal Joseph, Martin Gluck Endowed Professor of Surgery, Chief of Trauma, Critical Care, Burns, and Emergency Surgery, and Executive Vice Chair of the Department of Surgery at the University of Arizona. He shares his remarkable leadership journey, from his early passion for surgery’s human connection to his evolution as a leader on the national stage.We discuss pivotal moments that shaped his leadership philosophy, the evolving expectations of surgical leaders, and the importance of emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and continuous learning. Dr. Joseph introduces the concept of “triple integration” — blending clinical excellence, education, and research — and offers practical advice on building trust within teams, leading through organizational change, and balancing delegation with maintaining influence.Through powerful personal reflections, he highlights the importance of setting boundaries, leading yourself first, and staying true to your mission, even when challenging the status quo. This conversation is packed with timeless leadership lessons!TakeawaysBeing clinically competent is essential for effective leadership in surgery.The concept of a 'triple threat' in surgical leadership is evolving towards a more integrated approach.Understanding your audience is crucial for effective leadership.Emotional intelligence involves self-management and the ability to remain calm in chaos.Continuous learning is vital for personal and professional growth as a leader.Building trust in teams requires recognizing silence as a potential trust gap.Alignment in teams is more important than mere agreement.Investing time in understanding leadership traits is essential for young surgeons. You build trust by being honest and real.Delegation is opportunity, not just a task.The hardest person to lead is yourself.Communication is key in leadership.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dean Amy J. Goldberg, a master trauma surgeon, visionary leader in academic medicine, and a tireless advocate for education and community engagement. She currently serves as the Marjorie Joy Katz Dean of the Lewis Katz School of Medicine at Temple University. Prior to this role, she held a succession of leadership positions, including Chief of the Trauma and Surgical Critical Care Division, Director of the General Surgery Residency Program, and the George S. Peters MD and Louise C. Peters Chair and Professor of Surgery. Additionally, she is the Chair of the Board of Directors at the American Board of Surgery.Dean Goldberg shares her inspiring journey from a fascination with anatomy in medical school to becoming a nationally recognized trauma surgeon and medical school dean. She reflects on the mentors who shaped her, the power of following one’s purpose, and how she found a deep sense of home and mission at Temple. We explore her groundbreaking work in community violence prevention through the Cradle to Grave program, her views on leadership, imposter syndrome, and what it truly takes to step into high-impact roles while staying grounded in service and empathy.TakeawaysDr. Goldberg's passion for anatomy drew her to surgery.Mentorship played a crucial role in her career development.Leadership opportunities can arise unexpectedly.Finding a supportive community is vital for success.Listening is a key skill for effective leadership.Imposter syndrome is common among leaders.Data-driven decision-making is essential in healthcare.Building strong relationships within the community is important.Stumbling in your career can lead to growth and resilience.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Michael Cripps, Section Chief for Trauma and Acute Care Surgery at the University of Colorado School of Medicine, Trauma Medical Director at the Anschutz Medical Campus, and Chair of the SAGES Committee on Acute Care Surgery. A nationally recognized leader in trauma and acute care surgery, Dr. Cripps brings a wealth of experience shaped by high-impact leadership roles, a robust academic career, and a deep commitment to education and mentorship.We explore his journey from clinician-scientist to transformative leader, his philosophy on building strong team culture, and the importance of managing up. Dr. Cripps shares hard-earned lessons about emotional intelligence, conflict resolution, and the influence of martial arts on his leadership style. He reflects on pivotal moments, including turning conflict into collaboration, and emphasizes the need for humility, reflection, and continual learning in surgical leadership.TakeawaysDr. Cripps attributes his success to the guidance of mentors throughout his career.Learning from both good and bad leaders is crucial for personal growth.Feeling unprepared for leadership roles is a common experience and can be beneficial.A strong team culture is built on shared values and a common mission.Listening to team members is essential for new leaders to understand existing cultures.Building relationships is more important than titles in leadership.Resilience is a key component of a strong team culture.Leaders must align their goals with the organization's mission for success.Effective leadership requires checking one's ego and understanding others' stressors.Detaching from emotional responses is crucial in leadership.Conflict is an inevitable part of leadership.Finding common ground is essential in conflict resolution.Leadership skills should be developed early in one's career.Emotional intelligence is a key component of effective leadership.Leadership is a continuous journey of self-improvement.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Todd Rosengart, Professor and DeBakey-Bard Chair of the Michael E. DeBakey Department of Surgery at Baylor College of Medicine, Vice President for Hospital Operations and Quality Improvement, and a member of the Baylor St. Luke’s Medical Center Board of Directors. Dr. Rosengart is the past Chair of the NIH Bioengineering, Technology and Surgical Sciences Study Section, inaugural Chair of the ACS National Surgeon Scientist Study Section, Chair of the ACS Board of Governors Physician Competency and Health Workgroup, and a member of the ACS Academy of Master Surgeon Educators. He is also past President of the Society of Surgical Chairs and recently completed a four-year term as Board Director for the American Association for Thoracic Surgery.Dr. Rosengart reflects on his journey to a pioneering cardiac surgeon and academic leader. We explore the lasting impact of mentorship, the mindset behind innovation and discovery, and the evolving role of surgeons as collaborative problem solvers in today’s complex healthcare systems. He shares hard-earned lessons on time management, team-building, and creating a culture that attracts and retains top talent.TakeawaysDr. Rosengart's journey to surgery was influenced by mentors.Innovation stems from a passion for improvement and curiosity.Surgeons are trained as problem solvers, which translates to leadership.Collaboration is essential in today's complex healthcare environment.Quality improvement is a change journey requiring buy-in from all levels.Mentorship plays a crucial role in developing future leaders.AI will transform the practice of medicine, emphasizing empathy and communication.Aspiring leaders should focus on mastering the basics of their profession.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Martin McCarter, Professor of Surgery at the University of Colorado School of Medicine, Surgical Director of the Esophageal & Gastric Cancer Program, and the Gary, Debbie, and Brandon Mandelbaum Endowed Chair in Melanoma Research.Dr. McCarter shares the leadership lessons he’s learned over the course of a career spent at the intersection of surgical oncology, research, and academic medicine. From leading multidisciplinary cancer programs to mentoring the next generation of surgeons, he reflects on the values that have guided him and the mindset needed to lead through uncertainty.We talk about the importance of humility, consistency, and teamwork—how leaders gain trust, how they earn respect, and how they grow others. Dr. McCarter also discusses what it means to create culture in an academic department, and why being present and prepared can make the biggest difference.TakeawaysMentorship plays a crucial role in shaping one's career.Research is a team sport that requires collaboration.Authenticity in leadership fosters trust and engagement.Strategic planning must align with healthcare system goals.Flexibility is key in navigating career paths and research.Effective delegation balances leadership presence and team empowerment.Understanding the big picture is essential for impactful leadership.Future leaders must adapt to the evolving healthcare landscape.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Lars Svensson, Professor of Surgery, Director of the Marfan Syndrome & Connective Tissue Disorder Clinic, and Chairman of the Heart, Vascular, & Thoracic Institute at the Cleveland Clinic. We discuss his journey from aspiring mechanical engineer to a world-renowned surgeon and leader. Dr. Svensson shares pivotal moments that shaped his career, the impact of his mentors on his path, and the innovations that defined his work in aortic surgery. We explore the role of leadership in medicine, the importance of understanding organizational culture, and the evolving challenges in healthcare. Dr. Svensson offers invaluable advice on personal growth, teamwork, and the strategies that drive meaningful change in surgery.TakeawaysDr. Svensson's journey began with an interest in mechanical engineering.Surgery training was shaped by influential mentors and experiences.Innovations in aortic surgery were pivotal in his career.Leadership in surgery requires adaptability and understanding of culture.Dr. Svensson shares his take on great leadership.Recognition and respect are key motivators for physicians.Building personal relationships enhances team dynamics.Understanding organizational culture is crucial for effective leadership.Continuous learning is essential for mastering surgical skills.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Michael Sutherland, a leader in surgery and trauma systems development and Director of the Division of Member Services at the American College of Surgeons. We explore his journey from military service to surgical leadership, discussing how his experience in the U.S. Air Force shaped his structured approach to leadership and problem-solving. Dr. Sutherland shares insights into the complexities of building and optimizing trauma systems, the importance of aligning stakeholders, and the delicate balance of implementing change within established healthcare structures. He also reflects on the evolving role of the American College of Surgeons in supporting professional development and how surgeons can take initiative in leadership. Throughout our conversation, he emphasizes the value of patience, collaboration, and continuous learning.TakeawaysDr. Sutherland's journey into medicine began with a personal medical experience.Military service shaped his structured approach to leadership.Leadership is about inspiring others to join the journey.An MBA can enhance competitiveness in leadership roles.Building trauma systems requires alignment among stakeholders.Gaining buy-in involves leveraging existing organizational culture.Change should be gradual and collaborative, not forced.Individual initiative is key to leadership development.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dean John H. Sampson, a distinguished neurosurgeon, physician-scientist, and leader in academic medicine. As the Richard D. Krugman Endowed Chair, Vice Chancellor for Health Affairs, and Dean of the University of Colorado School of Medicine, he has played a pivotal role in shaping medical education, research, and patient care.We discuss his journey into neurosurgery, the importance of mentorship, and the intersection of innovation and leadership in academic medicine. He reflects on his tenure at Duke University, where he led transformative initiatives, advanced groundbreaking research in brain tumors, and mentored the next generation of physician-scientists. Dean Sampson shares his philosophy on leadership, the role of curiosity in driving progress, and why enjoying the journey is just as important as the destination.TakeawaysDean Sampson's journey into neurosurgery began unexpectedly during medical school.Curiosity and problem-solving have been central to Dean Sampson's career.Innovative programs can significantly enhance surgical training.Understanding one's passions can empower individuals in their careers.Innovation is essential for the future of academic medicine.Leadership roles require a balance of authenticity and creativity.Organizational structure is vital for effective leadership.Enjoying the journey is more important than focusing solely on titles.Future surgeons should prepare for diverse career paths.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Nancy Ascher, a Distinguished Professor of Surgery and a trailblazer in organ transplantation and surgical leadership. As the first woman to perform a liver transplant and the first female Chair of the UCSF Department of Surgery, she has spent decades shaping the future of transplantation. She has served as President of both The Transplantation Society and the American Society of Transplant Surgeons, and has also served on the Presidential Task Force on Organ Transplantation, the Surgeon General’s Task Force on Increasing Donor Organs, and the Secretary of Health and Human Services Advisory Committee on Organ Transplantation. Currently, she is a member of the WHO Taskforce on Donation and Transplantation of Human Organs and Tissues, continuing her work on shaping global transplantation policy. We discuss her path to leadership, the challenges she faced breaking barriers, and her role in mentoring the next generation of surgeons. Dr. Ascher also shares insights on the evolving landscape of transplantation and the future of organ donation. Her story is one of resilience, innovation, and an unwavering commitment to advancing the field!TakeawaysDr. Ascher is a pioneer in organ transplantation.Her upbringing instilled a drive for excellence.Medical school was a competitive environment for women.Her first solo surgical case was a trial by fire.She chose organ transplantation for its lifelong interest.Becoming the first woman to perform a liver transplant was a significant milestone.Leadership involves mentoring and supporting young surgeons.Honesty and curiosity are key attributes for trainees.A master surgeon continuously seeks to improve.Global health initiatives are crucial for advancing transplantation.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Charles Putnam, an Emeritus Professor of Surgery, distinguished Transplant Surgeon, Surgeon Scientist, and Molecular & Cellular Biologist. Previously, he was Chief of the Surgical Service at the Veterans Administration Medical Center in Tucson, Chief of the Section of General Surgery, in the Department of Surgery at the University of Arizona College of Medicine, and Program Director of the General Surgery Residency at the University of Arizona College of Medicine. Dr. Putnam shares his journey from early influences to working alongside Dr. Thomas Starzl, the father of modern transplantation. He reflects on the challenges of balancing research with surgical training, the evolution of transplant methodologies, and the critical role of mentorship in shaping the next generation of surgeons.With a career spanning decades, Dr. Putnam discusses the intersection of surgical innovation and financial sustainability in healthcare, the transition from clinical practice to research, and the importance of maintaining a strong work ethic. His invaluable advice for aspiring surgeons highlights the significance of listening, continuous learning, and personal development.TakeawaysChildhood influences shape work ethic and dedication.Creativity in pursuing opportunities can lead to success.Exciting research projects can stem from personal initiative.Leadership requires consistency and understanding in mentorship. Teaching is about what you can transmit to others.Listening is a crucial part of mentoring.Developing strengths is easier than overcoming weaknesses.Ethics in medicine is about consistency and authenticity.The hardest job of a mentor is to listen and guide rather than dictate.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, I sit down with Dr. Ashish Shah, Professor of Cardiac Surgery and the Alfred Blalock Endowed Chair of the Department of Cardiac Surgery at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. As a leader in heart transplantation and mechanical support, Dr. Shah has played a pivotal role in transforming Vanderbilt’s heart transplant program into one of the busiest in the country.We explore his journey from growing up in a medical household to becoming a leader in cardiac surgery, the importance of mentorship, and the challenges of navigating institutional barriers. Dr. Shah shares insights on pioneering innovations, including normothermic regional perfusion (NRP) for heart transplantation, and the ethical considerations surrounding the reanimation of hearts. We also discuss the balance between driving surgical innovation and maintaining financial sustainability within healthcare systems. Finally, Dr. Shah offers invaluable advice for early-career surgeons on leadership, technical excellence, and establishing influence in the field.TakeawaysMentorship and being surrounded by smart people shaped his journey.Anxiety about surgical skills can be overcome with practice.Innovative practices can transform healthcare programs.The importance of finding meaning in one's work is crucial.Institutional barriers can be navigated with determination and resourcefulness.Leadership support is vital for implementing new medical practices.Team dynamics are crucial for successful surgeries.Training and consistency among teams are essential.Contingency plans are necessary for unexpected outcomes.Financial sustainability must be balanced with innovation.Advocacy from senior leadership is vital for new ideas.Technical proficiency is key for aspiring surgical leaders.

Send us Fan MailIn the first episode of this season, I sit down with Dr. Jordan Hoffman, Associate Professor of Surgery, Surgical Director of the Heart and Lung Transplantation Programs, and a leader in ECMO and pulmonary hypertension care at the University of Colorado School of Medicine. Dr. Hoffman shares how his family's legacy in medicine influenced his path, the challenges he faced during training, and the pivotal moments that shaped his career. We explore his leadership in organ transplantation, the evolution of Donation after Circulatory Death, and his role in establishing various programs at his institution. He also offers invaluable insights on clinical excellence and mentorship, and navigating leadership roles early on!TakeawaysDr. Hoffman faced uncertainty during his surgical training but persevered.Clinical excellence is crucial for future opportunities.Saying yes to opportunities can lead to unexpected paths.Building a reputation requires executing difficult cases well.Mentorship and good partnerships are essential in surgery.Research support is vital for new faculty.Navigating ethical dilemmas requires careful consideration.Establishing new programs involves collaboration and preparation.Leadership in surgery is about being clinically excellent and supportive.

Send us Fan MailIn this special episode and the season finale, we are joined by one of the most distinguished figures in surgery, Dr. Andrew Warshaw. As the W. Gerald Austen Distinguished Professor of Surgery and Surgeon-in-Chief Emeritus at Massachusetts General Hospital, Dr. Warshaw’s extraordinary career has shaped surgical practice, education, and leadership on a national and international scale.Dr. Warshaw shares insights into his leadership philosophy and reflects on his extraordinary achievements, including his transformative contributions to surgical quality, advocacy, and policy. Throughout the episode, he emphasizes the importance of teamwork, mentorship, and the qualities that define a master surgeon while offering invaluable advice for the next generation of leaders!This conversation is a masterclass in surgical excellence and leadership, as Dr. Warshaw’s unwavering dedication and wisdom continue to inspire those who follow in his footsteps.TakeawaysDr. Warshaw emphasizes the importance of aiming high in one's career.He believes in the significance of teamwork in surgical leadership.Mentorship is a crucial aspect of surgical education and legacy.Quality and safety in surgery have become paramount in recent decades.Advocacy and political action are essential for the surgical community.Decision-making in surgery requires input from the team and careful consideration.Leadership philosophy evolves with the complexity of the surgical environment.Dr. Warshaw values discipline and experience in his trainees.He encourages future leaders to give credit to their teams.Continuous contribution to the field is vital for progress.

Send us Fan MailIn this special episode, and the second-to-last of the season, Dr. John Cameron, the Alfred Blalock Distinguished Service Professor at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, joins us to share the extraordinary story of his career. A trailblazer in pancreatic cancer surgery, Dr. Cameron is renowned for performing over 2,400 Whipple procedures. Additionally, he has mentored more than 41 department chairs across the country! During his 19 years as Chief of Surgery at Johns Hopkins, he transformed surgical practice and education while holding leadership roles in some of the most prestigious surgical societies.In this conversation, Dr. Cameron reflects on his groundbreaking work in pancreatic cancer, the importance of mentorship in shaping future leaders, and the balance between tradition and innovation in surgery. His insights into leadership, surgical excellence, and the pursuit of a fulfilling career will leave you inspired and motivated to push boundaries in your own journey. This is an episode you won’t want to miss!TakeawaysDr. Cameron's focus on pancreatic cancer led to significant advancements in surgical outcomes.Leadership in surgery requires a commitment to supporting faculty and staff.Surgeons should strive to be role models in their professional conduct.Financial acumen is essential for effective leadership in surgical departments.Mentorship is a key component of Dr. Cameron's legacy in surgery.Balancing tradition with innovation is crucial for the advancement of surgical practices.Dr. Cameron's approach to leadership emphasizes setting a good example for others.Dr. Cameron believes that doing what you love leads to a fulfilling career.

Send us Fan MailDr. Joseph Coselli, Executive Vice Chair in the Department of Surgery, Professor and Cullen Foundation Endowed Chair in the Division of Cardiothoracic Surgery, and Program Director of the Aortic Surgery Fellowship at Baylor College of Medicine, reflects on the profound impact of mentorship on his career, the evolution of surgical techniques in aortic surgery, and the role of instinct in the operating room. He shares his journey of developing surgical skills, the challenges of innovation, and the importance of resilience and self-care in maintaining a long and impactful career.With insights on leadership, adaptability, and the significance of respecting patients and their families, Dr. Coselli offers valuable lessons for aspiring surgeons and established professionals alike. This episode captures the essence of a master surgeon who has not only shaped his field but also inspired countless future leaders in surgery.  TakeawaysMentorship plays a crucial role in shaping leadership styles.Continuous evaluation and follow-up of patients can lead to research opportunities.Innovation is essential for evolving surgical specialties.Instinct in surgery develops with experience and deep interest.Confidence in surgical skills can be built through practice and exposure.Resilience is key in managing the challenges of a surgical career.Self-care is important for maintaining long-term health in surgery.A master surgeon is committed to continuous improvement.Patients and their families are integral to the surgical process.Embracing change is vital for future surgical leaders. 

Send us Fan MailDr. Herbert Chen, Professor of Surgery and Surgeon-in-Chief at The University of Alabama at Birmingham Health System, and Senior Associate Dean for Academic Affairs at UAB School of Medicine, reflects on his journey from being inspired by his father, a retired orthopedic surgeon, to becoming a trailblazer in academic surgery. He highlights how mentorship and a pivotal research year shaped his career and emphasizes the importance of prioritizing education and mentorship in surgical leadership. Dr. Chen also explores the adaptability required in leadership, the value of practical experience over formal degrees, and aligning career goals with institutional expectations. TakeawaysMentorship plays a crucial role in shaping one's career in surgery.Effective leaders in surgery must prioritize education and mentorship for trainees.Leadership requires a mindset focused on serving others rather than personal ambitions.Practical experience is more valuable than formal degrees in leadership roles.Young faculty should focus on building their expertise before seeking leadership positions.Alignment between personal career goals and job expectations is essential.NIH funding can enhance leadership prospects but is not the only path to success.Choosing a specialty should be based on passion rather than potential for leadership.

Send us Fan MailDr. Justin Dimick, Professor of Surgery at the University of Michigan School of Medicine and Chair of the Department of Surgery in the University of Michigan Health System, shares his journey to becoming a pioneering leader in surgical innovation. In this episode, he reflects on the transformative role of mentorship in shaping his career, the importance of high standards in surgical practice and research, and the evolving culture of surgery, emphasizing inclusivity, humility, and the critical role of feedback in leadership development. Dr. Dimick also explores the balance between financial sustainability and technological advancements in healthcare, underscoring the value of strategic planning and innovation in navigating modern challenges. He offers aspiring surgical leaders lessons on defining their purpose, embracing self-reflection, and developing a strategic vision to thrive in a complex and dynamic field.  TakeawaysUnderstanding one's 'why' is crucial for leadership and personal development.Mentorship plays a vital role in shaping careers and providing support during challenging times.High standards and impactful work are essential in surgical research and practice.Cultural shifts in surgery are moving towards inclusivity and humility.Financial decision-making in surgery requires a balance between value and innovation.Strategic financial planning is crucial for long-term success in healthcare organizations.Forecasting in healthcare is often inaccurate but necessary for budgeting and planning.Future surgical leaders must embrace development, inclusivity, and high standards.Feedback and self-reflection are key components of leadership growth. 

Send us Fan MailDr. Oscar Joe Hines, Chair, Executive Director, and Professor of the Department of Surgery at UCLA, shares his remarkable journey in surgery, from early inspirations to becoming a nationally recognized leader in the field. In this episode, Dr. Hines discusses the qualities essential for leadership in surgery, including emotional intelligence, time management, and the ability to balance professional and personal responsibilities. Drawing on his extensive experience, he highlights the unique advantages of staying at one institution versus moving for career growth, the importance of listening to diverse perspectives, and making timely decisions as a leader. Dr. Hines offers invaluable advice for aspiring surgeons, emphasizing the need for vision, kindness, and structured approaches to leadership while advocating for the growth and success of their teams. TakeawaysDr. Hines was inspired to pursue surgery due to its combination of immediate solutions and the need for extensive medical knowledge.Leadership roles in surgery can significantly alter one's career trajectory and provide opportunities for personal growth.Time management and scheduling are crucial for balancing professional and personal life.Staying at one institution can offer unique advantages, but moving can also provide personal and career growth.Emotional intelligence is essential for effective leadership, especially in high-stakes environments like surgery.Listening to diverse opinions is important, but leaders must also make timely decisions.Learning from mistakes and having a structured approach to leadership can enhance team dynamics.Leadership in surgery requires vision, kindness, and the ability to advocate for team members.Patience and attention to all aspects of a career are vital for aspiring leaders.

Send us Fan MailDr. Amir Ghaferi, Professor of Surgery & Senior Associate Dean for Clinical Affairs at the Medical College of Wisconsin, and President & CEO of Physician Enterprise Froedtert & Medical College of Wisconsin, shares his experience establishing a bariatric surgery program at the VA, and how leadership roles have shaped his career. He dives into his research on quality and surgical care, highlighting the importance of fostering high-reliability systems in healthcare. Additionally, Dr. Ghaferi provides insights into the financial side of surgery, explaining revenue models like the dollar-per-RVU approach, tracking performance against budgets, and the value of a team-based approach to financial planning. The conversation concludes with advice for aspiring leaders, emphasizing emotional intelligence, adaptability, and the courage to embrace new opportunities.TakeawaysDr. Ghaferi's journey highlights the importance of adaptability in career paths.Establishing a new program requires both passion and perseverance.Building coalitions is essential for successful healthcare initiatives.Leadership roles can significantly shape one's career trajectory.Research in health services can bridge gaps in surgical care.A culture of high reliability is vital for improving patient outcomes.Budgeting is a critical skill for surgical department management.Collaboration among healthcare teams is key to effective patient care.Budgeting is a collaborative effort involving multiple expertise.Budgeting is more of an art than a science.Tracking performance requires understanding the story behind the data.Re-forecasting budgets is essential for accuracy.Emotional intelligence is key for future surgical leaders.Leaders should embrace opportunities and challenges.Saying yes more than no can lead to personal growth.

Send us Fan MailDr. Bruce Perler, the Julius H. Jacobson II Professor and Vice Chair Emeritus for Clinical Operations and Financial Affairs in the Department of Surgery at the Johns Hopkins Hospital and School of Medicine, shares his journey from a middle-class upbringing to becoming a prominent figure in vascular surgery and academic leadership. With insights into his surgical training, mentorship from figures like Dr. David Sabiston, and his experiences at Johns Hopkins, Dr. Perler discusses how passion, strong mentorship, and relationship-building have shaped his approach to leadership. He reflects on the essential role of financial management in healthcare and the importance of clinician-administrator collaboration, offering valuable advice for aspiring leaders. His journey is a testament to dedication, resilience, and a commitment to advancing the field.TakeawaysDr. Perler's upbringing instilled a strong work ethic.Mentorship plays a crucial role in surgical training.The importance of teaching and engaging with students.Building relationships with colleagues is vital for success.Transitioning to academic surgery can be serendipitous.Internal candidates face unique challenges in leadership roles.Changing institutions can facilitate career advancement.Understanding the business side of medicine is essential.Collaboration between clinicians and administrators is key.Passion for one's work leads to fulfillment and success.

Send us Fan MailDr. Thomas Varghese, Professor, Chief, Section of General Thoracic Surgery at the University of Utah, and Chief Value Officer at the Huntsman Cancer Institute, joins us to share his inspiring journey in surgery. In this conversation, he discusses the evolving roles of mentorship and leadership, stressing the importance of resilience and continuous learning. Dr. Varghese highlights how he forged his path by seeking mentorship and embracing challenges, ultimately contributing to initiatives like the ACS Strong for Surgery program and the HCI-IMPACT Center. He offers powerful advice on building a strong culture in medical institutions, emphasizes the role of effective communication, and breaks down quality improvement as a systematic approach to advancing patient care. Dr. Varghese’s story is a must-listen for aspiring surgical leaders, providing valuable insights on guiding others, creating lasting impact, and navigating the journey to leadership in medicine.TakeawaysDr. Varghese's journey began with a fascination for teamwork in surgery.Mentorship in surgery is evolving to be multi-directional and involves curating a circle of mentors.Training future leaders in surgery is essential for building a strong culture in medical institutions.Leadership in surgery is defined by the ability to guide and positively influence others.First impressions matter!Establishing a cancer center requires a deep understanding of organizational principles and mentorship.Quality improvement is a systematic process that aims for measurable improvements in patient care.Effective communication is crucial for surgeons to convey information to patients and teams.Aspiring surgeon leaders should seek feedback and continuously strive for improvement.

Send us Fan MailDr. Rebecca Minter, Professor and Chair of the Department of Surgery at the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health, and Vice Chair of the American Board of Surgery, Board of Directors, reflects on her journey in surgery and shares her perspectives on impactful leadership, emphasizing the importance of influence over titles. She discusses challenges in performance evaluations, the need for strong mentorship, and her dedication to Entrustable Professional Activities and competency-based training in surgical education. Dr. Minter offers valuable advice for aspiring leaders in surgery, guiding listeners on how to navigate their careers and make meaningful contributions to the field. TakeawaysLeadership is about influence, not titles.Everyone can be a leader at any level.Networking is crucial for career advancement.Self-awareness is essential for growth.Faculty assessment needs improvement.Mentorship should be intentional and structured.Competency-based training is the future of education.Feedback is vital for leadership development.Aspiring leaders should focus on their impact.

Send us Fan MailDr. Thomas Scalea, the Honorable Francis X. Kelly Distinguished Professor of Trauma Surgery, Physician-in-Chief of the R Adams Cowley Shock Trauma Center, and Director of the Program in Trauma at the University of Maryland School of Medicine, joins us to discuss his unconventional path to becoming a leader in trauma care. Reflecting on pivotal career moments, Dr. Scalea highlights innovative approaches in trauma management and the importance of empowering teams to foster excellence in patient care. He shares insights on leadership, from conflict resolution and negotiation to the essential role of “managing up” in a high-stakes environment. Dr. Scalea’s emphasis on challenging the status quo and pursuing one’s passions offers invaluable advice for aspiring surgeons and leaders. TakeawaysDr. Scalea's journey to surgery was unplanned and filled with pivotal moments.Innovative techniques in trauma care can lead to remarkable patient recoveries.Effective leadership requires listening and leading by example.Improving patient care involves protocolizing processes and enhancing communication.Quality assurance in complex healthcare systems relies on empowering skilled individuals.Conflict management starts with understanding others' perspectives.Influence as a leader is built through a willingness to help and support others.Aspiring leaders should challenge the status quo and pursue what they love. 

Send us Fan MailDr. Charles Yeo, Professor and Chairman of the Department of Surgery at Sidney Kimmel Medical College at Thomas Jefferson University and Senior Vice President and Chair of Enterprise Surgery at Jefferson Health, shares his journey to becoming a leader in pancreatic surgery. He reflects on the pivotal role of mentorship, the resilience needed during his transition to faculty, and the evolution of pancreatic surgery over the years. Dr. Yeo dives into the complexities of healthcare systems, discussing the funds flow model and the importance of preserving academic missions. For aspiring leaders, Dr. Yeo highlights the need for emotional intelligence and foundational skills essential to succeed in surgery. TakeawaysMentorship played a crucial role in shaping Dr. Yeo's career path.The evolution of pancreatic surgery has been significant over the years.Early challenges in faculty positions require resilience and adaptability.Leadership in surgery is about advancing others and setting them up for success.Effective communication is vital in surgical leadership.Balancing work and personal life is a continuous challenge for surgeons.Healthcare systems benefit from regional facilities for patient care and education.Quality assurance requires delegation and oversight in large healthcare systems.Future surgical leaders must develop emotional intelligence and sound surgical skills.

Send us Fan MailDr. Robert McIntyre, John and Cynthia Schultz Professor and Chief of the Division of GI, Trauma, and Endocrine Surgery, as well as Vice Chair of Finance in the Department of Surgery at the University of Colorado, reflects on how personal trauma influenced his career path and discusses the transition from resident to attending surgeon, highlighting the new responsibilities that come with leadership.He emphasizes the importance of soft skills—especially listening—and how leadership opportunities often arise from being prepared and open to them. Dr. McIntyre shares his insights into balancing multiple roles in a surgical career, the value of collaboration, and the power of building trust within a team. Dr. McIntyre also highlights the complexities of revenue cycle management and the significance of compliance in billing practices. TakeawaysDr. McIntyre's journey into surgery was influenced by personal trauma.The transition from resident to attending brings new responsibilities.Leadership opportunities often arise from being prepared and open to them.Soft skills, especially listening, are crucial for effective leadership.Balancing multiple roles can be achieved through collaboration and teamwork.Influence in leadership comes from valuing team input and building trust.Documentation is key to successful revenue cycle management.Timely filing and clean claims are critical to avoid denials.Regular feedback and education are essential for compliance and improvement.Future leaders should focus on management and finance skills alongside clinical expertise. 

Send us Fan MailDr. Parsia Vagefi, Professor and Executive Vice Chair of Strategy and Finance in the Department of Surgery at UT Southwestern Medical Center, and Chief of the Division of Surgical Transplantation, shares his journey into transplant surgery and the importance of mentorship in shaping his career. Specializing in liver transplantation and hepatobiliary surgery, he discusses the rewards and challenges of the field, emphasizing teamwork in achieving successful outcomes. Dr. Vagefi also provides insights into leadership, adaptability, and transparency, while highlighting the financial aspects of running a surgical department, optimizing care pathways, and value-based care. He offers advice to trainees, encouraging them to focus on their interests and prioritize open communication in navigating challenges. TakeawaysMentorship and early exposure to surgery are crucial in shaping a career in surgery.Effective leadership requires adaptability, presence, open communication, and transparency.When considering career transitions, it is important to assess the opportunities and challenges of the new environment and weigh them against the current situation.Preparing for leadership roles in healthcare administration may involve reading relevant literature, optimizing care pathways, and focusing on value-based care. Be good stewards of resources and find opportunities to increase efficiency.Consider the interconnectedness of clinical care, research, and education in building a successful department.Focus on your interests and commit to becoming an expert in your chosen areasTransparency and open communication are key in managing financial challenges 

Send us Fan MailDr. Keith Lillemoe, W. Gerald Austen Professor of Surgery at Harvard Medical School and Surgeon-in-Chief at Massachusetts General Hospital, shares his journey to becoming a leader in the field. He dives into the critical role of mentorship, the key traits of effective leadership, and how surgical education and quality improvement are evolving. Dr. Lillemoe highlights the importance of balancing leadership duties while fostering a culture of safety and excellence. He offers practical strategies for developing leadership skills, engaging faculty in quality initiatives, and sustaining progress, even in resource-constrained environments. His advice for aspiring leaders centers on mastering time management and making strategic decisions. TakeawaysLeadership in surgery requires understanding multiple missions.Trainees should seek leadership opportunities early in their careers.National leadership roles enhance institutional leadership capabilities.Setting educational standards is crucial for surgical departments.Assessing leadership qualities starts early in residency.Quality improvement is a priority in surgical departments.Engaging faculty in quality initiatives is essential for success. 

Send us Fan MailDr. Allan Kirk, Professor and Chair of Surgery at Duke University School of Medicine shares his unique journey from time in the military to becoming a distinguished transplant surgeon and scientist. He offers deep insights into the evolution of leadership in surgery and reflects on the critical importance of authenticity, teamwork, and balancing innovation with financial sustainability. Dr. Kirk provides invaluable advice for future surgical leaders, emphasizing personal development, subject matter expertise, and the power of genuine leadership. TakeawaysLeadership is about developing expertise, not seeking authority.Military experience provided valuable resources and encouragement.Encouragement in a workplace is crucial for growth.Innovation must be balanced with financial sustainability.Effective leaders listen more than they speak.Authenticity is essential for positive influence as a leader.Building a strong team is foundational for departmental success.

Send us Fan MailDr. Martha Zeiger is an internationally renowned endocrine surgeon at the National Cancer Institute, NIH, and is an expert in the molecular aspects of thyroid cancer. She is the Founder and Dean of Endocrine Surgery University and has served as President of both the American Association of Endocrine Surgeons and the American Thyroid Association. In this episode, Dr. Zeiger shares her inspiring journey as a pioneering woman in surgery, discussing her early experiences in medical school without female role models, and her rise to leadership. She reflects on her time in the Navy, her unique surgical experiences, and the challenges and triumphs along the way. Dr. Zeiger also emphasizes the importance of mentorship and leadership in medicine, as well as her efforts in developing programs for surgeon-scientists, while offering her vision for the future of surgical leadership. TakeawaysHer love for science and helping people drove her to medicine.She was the first woman to graduate from her surgical residency program.Her first surgical patient was a gooney bird.Dr. Zeiger served as the only woman surgeon on an aircraft carrier.She was part of the surgical team during President George HW Bush's inauguration.She discusses her framework for conceiving and implementing new programs at a national level.Dr. Zeiger encourages aspiring surgeons to embrace their careers with passion.

Send us Fan MailDr. Timothy Pawlik, Professor and Surgeon-in-Chief at Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, shares valuable insights on self-awareness, mentorship, and the power of continuous learning. He highlights the critical role professional societies play in career advancement and underscores the importance of collaboration in research. Dr. Pawlik also offers advice for aspiring leaders, encouraging them to discover their passion while remaining patient in their career development.TakeawaysLeadership is a purposeful journey that requires mentorship and continuous learning.It's important to lead where you currently are, regardless of your position.Aim to make an impact!Success in research comes from collaboration and having a supportive team.Professional societies provide opportunities for impact and career advancement.Research infrastructure is crucial for new faculty to succeed in their careers.Patience is essential in both personal and professional growth.

Send us Fan MailDr. Cristina Ferrone, Professor and Chair of Surgery at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, shares her journey in surgical oncology and the influence of her mentors. She emphasizes the importance of finding a niche area of expertise and building collaborations with colleagues. Dr. Ferrone also discusses the significance of career planning, skill enhancement, and mentorship in faculty professional development. She encourages individuals to reflect on what brings true fulfillment and to make incremental milestones in all areas of their work. Lastly, Dr. Ferrone highlights her contribution to changing the paradigm of locally advanced pancreas cancer.TakeawaysFind mentors who are inspirational and have a strong impact on your career path.Focus on a niche area of expertise and collaborate with colleagues in different disciplines.Reflect on what brings true fulfillment and make incremental milestones in all areas of your work.Build meaningful relationships with mentors through working together on projects.Do the right thing for your patients, colleagues, and trainees, regardless of whether someone is watching.

Send us Fan MailDr. Steven Wexner, Professor of Surgery and Emeritus Chair of the Department of Colorectal Surgery at The Cleveland Clinic Florida, and Editor-in-Chief of Surgery, shares his journey into surgery, the importance of leadership, and the essence of effective collaboration in healthcare. He discusses his experiences, challenges, and the significance of mentorship in shaping future leaders in surgery. Dr. Wexner emphasizes the need for passion, dedication, and the ability to adapt in order to build a lasting legacy in the field.TakeawaysLeadership is based on respect and trust, not titles.Effective leaders lead by example and are passionate about their work.Balancing responsibilities is easier with a supportive team.Navigating challenges requires conflict resolution and compromise.Collaboration across departments enhances healthcare outcomes.Building relationships is key to successful mentorship.Setbacks are opportunities for growth and learning.A lasting legacy is built through mentorship and influence.

Send us Fan MailDr. Gilbert Upchurch, Professor and Chair of the Department of Surgery at the University of Florida College of Medicine, reflects on his remarkable career journey, mentorship, and the complexities of surgical leadership. He underscores the pivotal role that mentors and role models have played in shaping his career and guiding his development. As a leader, Dr. Upchurch emphasizes the value of education and mentorship, both of which are integral to his mission. Despite the demanding nature of running an entire department, Dr. Upchurch has managed to balance his responsibilities, not only excelling in the operating room but also producing landmark papers, authoring surgical textbooks, and mentoring dozens of trainees. He shares insights on how he has juggled these commitments, strategically setting priorities to maintain a thriving career while managing the pressures of a constantly evolving healthcare landscape. Finally, he speaks candidly about the challenges of surgical leadership, including adapting to external forces and navigating the changing financial realities of healthcare, all while keeping family a top priority. TakeawaysChoose a career path based on role models and mentors who inspire and guide you.Education and mentoring are essential in surgical leadership, and it is important to find joy in what you do.Managing a busy schedule requires setting priorities and finding a balance between work and family.Being a surgical leader involves responding to external forces and navigating the changing financial landscape of healthcare.

Send us Fan MailDr. Kevin Bozic, Professor and Chair of the Department of Surgery and Perioperative Care at Dell Medical School, shares his journey in surgery and the importance of understanding the financial aspects of surgical care. He emphasizes the role of mentors and role models in obtaining leadership positions and the value of getting an MBA. Dr. Bozic also discusses the importance of innovation and the need to focus on health rather than just healthcare.  TakeawaysMentors and role models are crucial for obtaining leadership positions.Getting an MBA can be beneficial for leadership positions, but it's important to choose the right program.Understanding the financial aspects of surgical care is important for surgeons.Innovation is essential for progress in healthcare.Health should be the focus, not just healthcare.Clinical reputation is important for aspiring leaders.Leadership requires being a servant leader and putting the interests of others first.Moving between institutions can provide diverse perspectives and opportunities for growth.Measuring and improving health should be the goal of healthcare systems.Leadership involves being comfortable with failure and taking risks. 

Send us Fan MailDr. Andrew Cameron, a Professor of Surgery and Surgeon-in-Chief at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, shares his journey to becoming a surgeon and his experiences in the field. He discusses the influence of his father, who is a giant in surgery, and the impact it had on his career choice. Dr. Cameron talks about the challenges he faced and the importance of adaptability in his career. He also highlights the financial challenges of being in an academic medical center and the need for strong financial management skills. Additionally, he discusses the role of different specialties in leadership positions and the importance of being a reasonable human being in the field of medicine. Dr. Andrew Cameron discusses the importance of following one's passion in choosing a surgical specialty and not making decisions based on potential future benefits. He emphasizes the need to do what you love and be fully committed to patient care. Finally, he talks about the concept of a 'triple threat' and the importance of finding the right balance between clinical practice, research, and leadership roles.  TakeawaysAdaptability is crucial in navigating the challenges and changes in the field of medicine.Financial management is a significant challenge in academic medical centers.Different specialties can contribute to leadership roles in surgery.Being a reasonable human being is a fundamental aspect of being a successful surgeon. Follow your passion and do what you love in your surgical specialtyServe your institution in meaningful ways that align with your interests and expertiseParticipation in national societies is no longer the only path to academic advancementBalance clinical practice, research, and leadership roles to achieve successHire individuals who fit the needs of the institution and avoid internal competition

Send us Fan MailDr. Fredric Pieracci, Professor and Director of Surgery at Denver Health Medical Center, shares his journey into surgery and the impact of working with underserved communities. He emphasizes the importance of addressing healthcare disparities and striving for equity in surgical care. Dr.  Pieracci discusses his leadership style, which includes being a servant leader, practicing radical candor, and recognizing his privilege. He also highlights the value of mentorship and having a leadership coach. Dr.  Pieracci advises trainees and early career faculty to document their experiences and understand the compensation models in their institutions.TakeawaysAddressing healthcare disparities and striving for equity in surgical care is crucial.Being a servant leader, practicing radical candor, and recognizing privilege are important aspects of effective leadership.Mentorship and having a leadership coach can greatly contribute to career development.Documenting experiences and understanding compensation models are valuable for trainees and early career faculty. 

Send us Fan MailDr. Mary Killackey, Professor and Chair of the Department of Surgery at Tulane University School of Medicine, discusses her journey to becoming a surgeon and a leader in the field. She emphasizes the importance of mentors and sponsors in obtaining leadership positions and highlights the role of organic relationships in mentorship. Dr. Killackey also shares her experience in creating a positive work environment and the impact of professionalism on department culture. She provides advice for trainees and early career faculty who aspire to be surgical leaders, including the importance of establishing a strong reputation and being open to opportunities. Lastly, she discusses the metrics used to evaluate the effectiveness of a department chair.TakeawaysMentors and sponsors play a crucial role in obtaining leadership positions.Creating a positive work environment requires setting expectations, holding people accountable, and fostering a culture of professionalism.Trainees and early career faculty should focus on establishing a strong reputation and being open to opportunities.Metrics used to evaluate the effectiveness of a department chair include academic productivity, program growth, resident and student evaluations, and involvement outside the department.Building relationships with influential individuals and participating in leadership programs can increase chances of being nominated for leadership positions.