T&A: Tens And Aces. An AP Blackjack podcast. Turning the tables from Las Vegas to Local Casinos

In this episode of Tens and Aces, host Mike AP sits down with returning guest Xipo, an advantage player and veteran software developer, to break down one of the most talked-about controversies in the blackjack community. Well, at least on Reddit and other online places of note in the AP community.At the center of the discussion is a dispute involving Blackjack Tools and Blackjack Apprenticeship, raising serious questions about intellectual property, proprietary datasets, and software integrity in the world of advantage play.With over 30 years of experience in software development and cybersecurity, Xipo walks through the technical evidence—from identical outputs at extreme decimal precision to suspicious code changes and AI-generated patterns that may suggest attempts to obscure underlying data sources.But this episode goes beyond code.Mike and Xipo explore the broader implications for the AP community: trust between players, the value of paid vs free platforms, and the ethics of building tools in a space built on shared knowledge. They also discuss how AI tools like ChatGPT and other LLMs are changing the way software is written—and how those tools leave detectable fingerprints.Despite the controversy, the conversation remains balanced—acknowledging innovation in competing tools while emphasizing the importance of transparency, originality, and respect for the work that powers successful advantage play.Whether you're a card counter, aspiring AP, or just interested in the intersection of gambling, software, and ethics—this episode delivers a rare, insider-level breakdown.EPISODE TOPICSblackjack advantage playBlackjack Apprenticeshipblackjack tools controversyAP software toolsblackjack EV calculatorcard counting strategygambling software analysisAI in coding (ChatGPT, LLM)intellectual property disputeblackjack community discussioncasino advantage play podcastEV optimization blackjack tools

In Episode 134 of The Tens and Aces Podcast, host Mike AP sits down with Doug, an advantage player (AP), software developer, and founder of savvyscrath.com. Doug’s incredible journey connects multiple worlds—online and live poker, blackjack, machine advantage play, comp hustling, and even a tech-driven edge in lottery scratcher ticket prediction. This episode explores how data, networking, and innovation can transform gambling into a measurable skill—and even a profession.Doug began in the golden age of internet poker, grinding on Full Tilt Poker and PokerStars before the 2011 “Black Friday” crackdown reshaped the landscape. Transitioning to live poker, Doug’s curiosity led him into blackjack apprenticeship, where he honed card counting skills and gained real-world experience as a banker at a California card room—a unique legal structure where players compete against each other, not the house.Doug dives deep into the quirks of California card rooms, explaining how they operate legally under player-banker rules. However, growing pressure from tribal casinos and regulatory shifts have forced many to close. His insider perspective reveals how policy changes can reshape entire ecosystems of legal AP opportunities.Never content with one niche, Doug advanced into machine advantage play and comp hustling—leveraging casino promotions and rewards for profit. He even built small teams to sign up players for bonuses, showing how creative networking and data collection unlock hidden value in casinos.Doug stresses that advantage players shouldn’t define themselves solely as card counters: diversification is survival.Doug’s crown achievement is a groundbreaking data-driven lottery system. His platform, ⁠savvyscrath.com⁠, tracks state lottery data—sales, ticket availability, and prize pools—to calculate real-time expected value (EV) for scratcher games in over 19 U.S. states.Key innovations include:Automated analysis of public lottery dataDynamic probability models to find “+EV” ticketsModel Context Protocol (MCP): a proprietary AI interface allowing conversational data queries for personalized strategy insightsDoug’s system effectively turns government-released data into actionable advantage play—bridging gambling, analytics, and software engineering.Doug shares how AI is reshaping discovery and marketing, but warns about hidden bias in search results and AI outputs driven by affiliate marketing. True advantage play now includes data skepticism—learning to question information sources and use AI as a lens to uncover niche opportunities others overlook.Echoing Richard Munchkin’s mantra that “Your network is your net worth,” Doug emphasizes the power of connections in the AP world. Information-sharing circles can be the difference between profit and burnout. For Doug, advantage play is not a hustle—it’s a mindset applied to everything from travel and spending to career optimization.Doug recalls buying his first scratcher on his 18th birthday, netting a $150 win—an early glimpse of the edge-seeking determination that defines his career. His nostalgic storytelling blends humor and insight, contrasting the analog gambling days with today’s data-driven ecosystem.Diversify your edge: Don’t rely solely on one AP method—adapt and expand.Leverage tech: Data tools and AI open new, overlooked profit zones.Stay networked: Collaboration and relationships multiply opportunity.Adopt the AP mindset: View everyday life through the lens of efficiency and edge-finding.advantage play podcast, blackjack, card counting, online poker history, California card rooms, machine advantage play, comp hustling, lottery scratcher analytics, savvyscrath.com, Doug advantage player, Mike AP podcast, Tens and Aces Episode 134, data-driven gambling, AI in casino strategy, Model Context Protocol MCP, AP mindset, gambling technology trends, blackjack apprenticeship

Note: We fixed a few technical issues with the original version. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused! Episode SummaryIn part two of this roundtable episode, Mike and guests dive deep into the practical and philosophical side of advantage play, starting with casino ID checks, heat, and longevity strategies. They swap stories about random ID requests, navigating casino policies, using alternative IDs, and how rated play and comps can sometimes buy a longer leash. The conversation shifts into travel EV—road trip logistics, using comps strategically, living out of your car, rental car hacks, free rooms, and balancing bankroll preservation with comfort.From there, the group gets into rat-holing, chip palming, cover plays, and the blurry line between practical camouflage and outright theatrics. That sparks a wider discussion on disguises, personas, social engineering, and where each player draws the ethical line. Along the way are great stories about exploitable casino promotions, clueless casino management, side bet opportunities, and the joy of finding casinos stepping over dollars to pick up pennies.The second half explores the double-edged sword of information sharing. The crew debates YouTube and Social Media content, and that leads into a thoughtful discussion about slot AP, secrecy, monetizing information, community gatekeeping, and why some opportunities react very differently to exposure than card counting does. It’s equal parts practical shop talk, philosophy, and hilarious degeneracy.Show NotesCasino ID checks, age verification, and handling “random” checksRated vs unrated play and how comps can affect longevityTravel cost-saving strategies for AP road tripsUsing comp properties as a base for regional casino runsSleeping in cars, truck stop showers, rental car hacks, and Vegas travel EVDomestic Tranquility Index: using casino comps to keep partners happyRat-holing strategies, chip palming, shift changes, and camouflageCover plays, gambler acts, and making surveillance see what you want them to seeThe ethics (and comedy) of disguises, personas, and undercover playCrazy casino promotions and exploitable coupon storiesCasino management mistakes, side bets, and why casinos sweat the wrong thingsJackpot procedures, surveillance attention, and when to leave the tableYouTube, TikTok, AP influencers, and whether exposure helps or hurtsFreeloading back-counters and table etiquette among APsSlot AP secrecy, monetization, and whether selling information burns opportunitiesReddit toxicity, moderated communities, and why scarce edges create territorial behaviorMemorable moments:“Gold miners or miners?”The old-man Hollywood prosthetic AP disguise storyBlind Luck as the greatest AP content channel name never launchedA casino promo worth nearly pure EV… because management didn’t listenGoing full max spread after a floor says, “We don’t get card counters here”The philosophical debate: where is the line between cover and absurdity?

Episode 132: Call To Arms | The Tens and Aces PodcastIn this quick little dispatch of The Tens and Aces Podcast, we’re issuing a Call To Arms for the advantage play blackjack community and listeners of this podcast.The world of advantage gambling isn’t just about strategy, bankrolls, and EV—it’s also about people. And lately, the community has been facing a growing challenge: toxicity, trolls, and internal division.The reason this matters to the community and to the creators of this podcast: The rise of negativity and trolling within the gambling and advantage play spaceHow online culture is impacting real-world relationships among playersThe hidden cost of division in a community that depends on trust and shared knowledgeWhy strong communities are essential for long-term success in blackjack and beyondPractical ways to deal with trolls, protect your mindset, and stay focused on your edgeHow we can rebuild a culture of respect, trust, and brotherhoodLet's help each other out!This episode isn’t just about calling out the problem—it’s about leading the solution.If you're serious about advantage play blackjack, you already know: mindset and community are just as important as counting cards. It’s time to protect both.

What happens when five advantage players with completely different backgrounds sit down to talk shop? In this episode of the Tens and Aces Podcast, host Mike AP is joined by Xipo, Loki, LimaTime, and Skeleton to sit down and discuss the reality of life on the felt, along with other AP endovors. From Martingale mishaps and the legality of using another person’s player’s card to the psychological warfare of "hiding in plain sight," this episode covers the full spectrum of the journey. The group dives into creating cover personas, leveraging online resources and tools, such as the Blackjack Apprenticeship (BJA) community to battle loneliness, the hidden value of AP on cruise ships, and why the house kicking you out is the ultimate proof of concept. The "Smart Gambler" Cover: LimaTime explains how his professional background helps him blend in. By playing up the "successful guy with too much money" stereotype, he avoids the "young counter" profile that attracts pit boss scrutiny.Player's Cards & Legality: The panel tackles a sensitive topic: Is it fraud to use someone else's player's card? A discussion on breaking "casino rules" vs. breaking the law, the syndicates trying to "bust out" promotions, and why most casinos usually just cancel your comps.The Loneliness of the Road: Why networking via the Blackjack Apprenticeship app, Discord, Reddit and other online communities is vital for modern players to stay mentally on top of their games and battle the loneliness that often accompanies AP play, as compared to the isolation players faced 20+ years ago before before social media and the proliferation of supportive on-line communities.Family Misconceptions: Dealing with family who don't understand the math. The guys discuss explaining swingy sessions, the difference between losing and "bad counting," and the reality that you can't pay a phone bill with Expected Value (EV).Casino Logic (or Lack Thereof): Stories of casinos backing off losing players or "ploppies" simply because they were uncomfortable with the action, proving that the house isn't always as sharp as they think.AP on the High Seas: Loki and Xipo discuss the opportunities and limitations of AP on cruise ships. They cover the reality of the games, leveraging "conditional promotions" to pay for family trips, and why keeping these plays under "lock and key" is essential for longevity.War Stories & Game Protection: A look at how License Plate Readers (LPR) can get your grandmother banned, the rare beauty of spotting a hole carding opportunity, and the legendary "they got us" back-off prank.TO SUPPORT THE SHOW BY BECOMING A PAID SUBSCRIBERFOR THE PRICE OF ONE CUP OF COFFEECLICK HERE -----------] anchor.fm/ta21Key Terms in This Episode:#CardCounting #Blackjack #AdvantagePlay #CasinoComps #CoverPersona #APLife #TensAndAces #BlackjackApprenticeship #BJA #ExpectedValue #CruiseShipAP #CasinoSurveillance #MikeAPIf you enjoyed this round table of advantage players, make sure to subscribe so you can have Part 2 of this conversation sent automatically to your feed when it's released.Resources Mentioned:Blackjack Apprenticeship (BJA): Training, community, and player networking.Tens and Aces Podcast: Real stories from real advantage players.

Here is a new episode of the podcast with an updated Blackjack basic strategy tutorial.#blackjack #tutorial #gambling #casino #advantageplay #Cardcounting

In this gloriously unhinged deep‑dive into the Badlands of advantage play Blackjack, host Mike AP sits down with Chris and Steve for Part 3 of their marathon four‑hour blackjack saga. What starts as a chat about obscure deviations quickly spirals into a full‑blown AP therapy session: bankroll trauma, emotional damage, tribal‑casino war stories, Reddit bans, ploppy encounters, and the eternal truth that blackjack is basically a never‑ending boxing match where the casino is a heavyweight assassin and you’re… well… you.The trio break down the real AP lifestyle — the wins, the losses, the “I just lost a house in one shoe” moments, the existential 2 a.m. parking‑lot stare‑downs, and the weird joy of using a deviation you practiced for months. They roast bad games, bad advice, bad risk‑of‑ruin math, and bad casino behavior. They also pitch a heartfelt recruitment ad for women APs (“please, for the love of God, email us”), share tales of side‑bet degeneracy, and explain why giving up your ID too early is the AP equivalent of tattooing your SSN on your forehead.If you love blackjack, advantage play, card counting, casino psychology, EV nerdery, and stories from the trenches, this episode is your buffet. If you’re a ploppy… buckle up.SHOW NOTES📬 Contact information "BAD CHRIS" & "BAD STEVE" [email protected] [email protected]• Why obscure deviations are fun and worth learning even when they’re worth 0.0000003 EV• Respecting the casino as a trained assassin trying to murder your bankroll• Bankroll reality: why most APs fail and why $50k is the real “starter kit” in Chris's opinion• Variance as a living demon that eats your soul• The emotional journey from “I lost $7k!!!” to “lol that’s cute”• Risk of ruin: why 10% is insanity and 2% is still spicy• Game selection as the true AP superpower• Why women APs are unicorns and also terrifyingly effective• The art of not giving your ID unless absolutely necessary• Tales of tribal casinos, trespass forms, and signing “eat shit”• Ploppy interactions: unsolicited advice, confusion, and delicious irony• Buying other players’ blackjacks, side‑bet shenanigans, and EV thievery• Getting cheated by a “fair” casino and the joy of being told to pound sand• Reddit bans, hockey fights, and the dangers of saying “hit him in the jibs”• Backoffs, flaps, and the sweet moment when the pit tells you you’re “too good”• Why APs leave the table when someone else hits a big side bet• Team play, shared bankrolls, and the “pigs get slaughtered” problem• The eternal truth: blackjack is one long shoe, and the casino doesn’t care about your feelings• Blackjack podcast• Card counting stories• Advantage play strategy• AP lifestyle• Casino backoff stories• Blackjack deviations explained• Professional gambler interviews

This is just a short little bonus episode we put together while we're editing down and doing post-production on the latest four interviews we conducted for the show. More full-length episodes to come soon!

If you don't already know, we're also pretty big baseball fans here at the T&A Podcast. We're specifically big Seattle Mariners fans.Today was opening day for most of the MLB, including the Mariners. Mike has a side podcast project where he hosts a Mariners podcast. If this isn't your thing, don't fret, as actual AP-related episodes are coming up very soon! We have five AP/BJ related episodes already recorded and in post-production.We know several MLB fans listen to the T&A feed. So we're putting the first episode of the MLB season into the main feed. Go Mariners!

Here's a *BONUS* episode of imaginary radio! It's a Q&A Episode from the Tens & Aces Podcast archives, with friend of the show, Nubs as the guest co-host.

EPISODE 127 DESCIPTION Mike AP is back in the studio for part two of three of an interview with former guests, Chris and Steve for a deep, hilarious, and occasionally brutal look at what it actually takes to survive the long-term grind of Advantage Play. This isn't your "get rich quick" fluff; this is the reality of life behind the curtain.The guys kick things off with some legendary surveillance stories from Steve being spotted in a binder full of "known associates" in a certain infamous casino database to pit bosses who couldn't find a counter if they were told that counter was "wearing a green shirt in pit 3" but still manage to sweat the Ploppies while ignoring the real threat at the table. amping other things, we break down the paranoia of modern shops and why casinos often do more damage to their own bottom line than an AP ever could.SHOW NOTESSLOT STORIESWhy a $50 slot spin can feel more gut-wrenching than a $5,000 max bet on the felt.THE JUXTAPOSITION OF AN AP'S MINDSET Why do we sweat using two McDonald’s apps to save $3 while betting thousands on a single hand without blinking?THE PASSPORT SAGASteve recounts a wild multi-trip disaster involving backoffs, CTRs, and the humbling moment of having to call a hostile security chief to beg for his passport back.THE CRAFT OF THE COUNTWhy blackjack is a trade, just like blacksmithing or carpentry is. If you aren't constantly brushing up on and reviewing your own game, you’re just a gambler in denial.THE TOOLKIT Why you need to buy CVCX. Plus discussion on the limitations of software, and why "good enough" math is a recipe for a bankroll funeral.CLOSING THE COUNTWe wrap up with a dive into obscure deviations, the humility of biannual testing, and the pure, degenerate joy of making a play so bizarre the pit thinks you're a moron right before your AP play helps you take their money.BONUS MUSIC 🎵 Stick around until the end for a full album of Mike AP’s original music.Keywords: Card Counting, Blackjack Strategy, Casino, Advantage Play, Casino Surveillance, CVCX, Bankroll Management, AP Community, Blackjack Deviations.

Episode 113: Down with the Clowns of the Illuminati! In this episode of our attempt at imaginary radio, we present the Tend and Aces Blackjack Podcast. Here, we talk to an AP named, "Sam." Sam isn't like most of our interview guests as he's not a Blackjack AP, but rather an AP who does slots and "other things" besides Blackjack. So, if this is the kind of thing you'd like to hear, listen up, because we're about to give you some T&A!

This Is the Video Version of episode 126. Enjoy!

In this installment of our attempt at imaginary radio, something that we like to call The Tens and Aces Podcast, host Mike AP sits down with returning guest Chris and his playing partner “Bad Steve” for one of the most candid, technical, and brutally honest AP conversations ever recorded on Tens & Aces.Steve walks through his origin story — from growing up with nothing, to learning basic strategy in college, to joining early teams that paid him certainty‑equivalent hourly rates while he played underage. He explains how he built a bankroll, got backed off everywhere, attended a blackjack science seminar, learned EV and risk‑of‑ruin math from a legendary AP mentor, and eventually moved into advanced plays like hole‑carding, next‑card knowledge, and exploiting dealer procedures.The three dig into the psychology of casinos, why APs are a rounding error yet still hunted, and how ego, pride, and incompetence shape surveillance decisions. They share stories of disguises, misdirection, obscure deviations, misdeal opportunities, shuffle‑tracking, and the soft‑skills that separate elite APs from basic counters.Networking, trust, and the emotional toll of variance take center stage as Steve describes losing huge sums while still having a massive edge — and why most new APs underestimate the psychological cost. The crew breaks down bankroll swings, team dynamics, bad intel, and the importance of character when trusting someone with tens of thousands in chips.This episode closes with reflections on how AP thinking transfers to business, why some brilliant people choose crime over legitimate opportunity, and a reminder that more of this marathon interview is coming soon.In Part 1 of this multi‑episode interview, Mike AP sits down with professional advantage players Chris and “Bad Steve” to explore the real world of blackjack AP — from card counting and hole‑carding to shuffle‑tracking, misdeal exploitation, and advanced casino‑beating techniques.Topics include:• Steve’s AP origin story and early team play• Building a bankroll and surviving backoffs• Hole‑carding, next‑card knowledge, and obscure deviations• Casino psychology, surveillance mistakes, and ego‑driven decisions• Networking, trust, and the dark side of AP misinformation• Bankroll swings, variance, and the emotional cost of professional play• How AP skills translate to business and real‑world opportunityIf you’re serious about blackjack, AP networking, or understanding the mindset behind long‑term advantage play, this episode is essential listening — and just the beginning of a much deeper conversation. Now, are you ready for some T&A?Contact information for NetworkingChris & Steve: [email protected]

This is an almost 4 minute preview clip of our upcoming episode with AP playing partners Steve and Chris.

We plan on having Nubs back on the show soon for an update on his AP career and to help me dive in to the mailbag and answer listener questions. So, for those of you who haven't heard him on this CLASSIC episode of our attempt at a transmission of imaginary radio, something that we like call the Tens and Aces Podcast, we present an interview with Nubs1981. Nubs is a Pro AP Blackjack player. He shares many entertaining, tragic and dare I say, informative in after school very special episode kind of way stories. So, if this is the kind of stuff you want to hear, well, listen up because we're about to give you some T&A!Things get wild in Episode 4 of the Tens and Aces Podcast as the crew dives into a night full of shenanigans, questionable decisions, casino vibes, and the ultimate party-stopping phrase: “No, you can’t see my ID.” From awkward bar encounters to ridiculous misunderstandings and stories that probably shouldn’t be told in polite company, this episode delivers nonstop laughs and unpredictable chaos.If you love comedy podcasts, casino stories, nightlife mishaps, and unfiltered conversations, this episode is right in your wheelhouse. Expect big laughs, outrageous moments, and classic Tens and Aces energy as the crew proves once again that what happens during shenanigans… definitely ends up on the podcast.Grab a drink, pull up a chair at the virtual card table, and get ready for another hilarious round of Tens and Aces Podcast madness.Timestamps 00:00 – Intro and setting the scene05:12 – How the shenanigans started14:40 – The panties incident23:05 – “No, you can’t see my ID” moment34:18 – Casino chaos and late-night decisions45:00 – Final thoughts and wrap-up#blackjack, #cardcounting, #advantageplay, #gambling, #casino, #winning

In this installment of our little experiment in imaginary radio, something that we like to call the Tens and Aces Podcast, we sit down with an advantage player who goes simply by “X” — a former athlete turned blackjack assassin whose journey from lacrosse fields to casino felt is anything but ordinary. What starts as a girlfriend‑sparked nudge (“you need direction”) turns into a full‑blown descent into the rabbit hole of Blackjack, Card Counting, and Advantage Play.X breaks down his obsessive year‑long training regimen — three to four hours a day with nothing but notebooks, fake bankrolls, and rage‑inducing variance — before ever stepping foot back into a casino. From a $2,200 starting bankroll to nearly 700 hours and over $50K in earnings, he recounts the highs, the brutal lows, and the psychological warfare of staying sane while the math does whatever the hell it wants.The conversation hits everything: emotional tilt, ploppy chaos, surrender stigma, insurance debates, back‑offs, sweaty shops, graveyard shifts, networking, traveling play, and the bizarre cast of characters who populate casino life — including rappers, degenerates, and the occasional rent‑money hero.It’s raw, funny, honest, and packed with real‑world insight into what it actually takes to grind out an edge in a casino ecosystem designed to chew you up. If you love stories from the trenches of Blackjack, Casino culture, and Advantage Play, listen up, because we're about to give you some T&A! Key Topics Covered• X’s “superhero origin story” in Blackjack• Transition from athlete to Advantage Player• Training for card counting without software• Building a bankroll from $2,200• Emotional control, tilt, and mental toughness• Understanding variance and staying below EV• First back‑offs and navigating sweaty casinos• Playing graveyard vs. day shifts• Networking through BJA, regional chats, and AP communities• Using cover, table selection, and shift rotation• Ploppy behavior: insurance myths, surrender stigma, “bus card” drama• Stories from Vegas, rent‑money gamblers, and celebrity encounters• The importance of scouting, penetration, and dealer speed• Why promotions and side plays matter• Long‑term goals: hitting $100K and expanding beyond counting Highlights & Quotes• “I wasn’t stepping foot in a casino unless I was a threat.”• “Losing fake money in my bedroom pissed me off more than it should have.”• “Ploppies keep the lights on — but man, they make it hard.”• “My girlfriend made me a $10K trophy. Then I lost $17K in two weeks.”• “First rule of Fight Club: don’t yell ‘Mike AP!’ at the table.”Key Words:Blackjack, Card Counting, Casino Advantage Play, AP Blackjack, Counting Cards, Blackjack Apprenticeship, Back‑offs, Casino Stories, Blackjack Podcast, Advantage Player Lifestyle, EV, Variance, Penetration, Double Deck, Shoe Game, Blackjack Strategy

In this transmission of this episode of our attempt at imaginary radio, that we like to call The Tens And Aces Podcast, We bring you an interview with an AP named Whiskey who's traveling around in a converted Sprinter Van going from city and city and state to state attacking casinos one by one. So, if this is the type of thing you'd like to hear, listen up, because we're about to give you some T&A!

Video preview of the upcoming episode of Tens and Aces Podcast...

In this transmission of our little attempt at imaginary radio that we like to call the Tens and Aces Podcast, we bring you an episode with Blackjack AP, Smootha. He's had a slightly different experience in the first 600+ hours of his relatively young AP Blackjack career. He brings some wonderful insight to this here podcast, nonetheless. Is this the type of thing you'd like to hear? Well, listen up! We're about to give you some T&A!

In this Episode of our attempt at imaginary radio, a little thing we like to call the Tens and Aces Podcast, we bring a very special surprise guest on for an interview and to talk about the ever important topic of AP etiquette. So, if this is the type of thing you'd like to hear, listen up.... Because we're about to give you some T&A!

Midwest Mike recounts a marathon gambling trip, during which he logged an extraordinary 350 hours at the tables in just a month. Far surpassing the 40 hours a month that most consider "full-time" for an advantage player in blackjack . He shares stories of remarkable variance, including wins totaling $52,000 and a grueling $10,000 losing streak, ultimately leaving a casino with a substantial profit despite a "polite back off" after 90 hours of play. The episode shifts focus to networking and the unpredictable value of making connections at the tables. In one memorable story, Mike strikes up a rapport with a fellow player, the CEO of a telecom company and big-time high roller. This relationship brings unexpected opportunities, including personal hosts, comped hotel rooms in Vegas, and recognition at other casinos. Conversations emphasize how genuine connections can create long-term opportunities beyond immediate gains.Mike also describes an awkward and intense experience at a northern Michigan casino, where he deals with odd staff behavior, uncomfortable dealer comments, and ultimately gets trespassed after a significant win. Rather than reacting with hostility, Mike handles the situation with humor and composure, even joking about being a "sex addict" when pushed toward a back room, turning a tense situation into a story of defiance and levity. These stories show the unpredictable nature of casino life, both in terms of profit swings and personal encounters.SHOW NOTES* Midwest Mike updates the audience about his AP play after a long hiatus from the podcast. *Reflection on the grind350 hours of play in a month, average session over 9 hours; balancing time between playing and communication.*MW Mike ended the trip up $52,000.Polite back offs and trespasses become routine; biggest win cited as $30,000 at one property.*Endured a painful $10,000 losing streak, but finished significantly ahead at the end of the run.*Networking StoriesEarly morning session leads to meeting a high roller/CEO packing $20,000 in chips. This chance meeting results in Vegas offers, access to high-limit rooms, private hosts, and VIP treatment.*The importance of rapportnetworking seen as long-term investment, sometimes an immediate game, sometimes a relationship for future value*.Casino Adventures and LessonsNorthern Michigan experience:Awkward staff, personal comments, changing dealers every 30 minutes.Humorous handling of being labeled an addict and dealing with “red flag” status by the pit boss.Final hours—down $7,000, but returns and wins back $7,500 before being trespassed after a dramatic standoff and witty banter with security.*Dealing with casino staff.Strategy and Table DynamicsDiscussion of card counting, betting spreads, and casino countermeasures.Insights into casino myths (e.g., using apps for live card counting) and player stereotypes.Continual act refinements: blending the professionalism of a businessperson with gambling skills. *Reflections and Closing ThoughtsLessons on adapting to casino environments, learning from awkward or tense moments.The long-haul approach to networking and gambling never knowing when a connection will pay off.A closing reminderMaintaining composure, humor, and adaptability are as valuable as the math behind advantage play. This episode is a candid, entertaining look at the unpredictable lifestyle of a professional card counter, emphasizing both the major swings and the subtle, unexpected wins gained through relationships and resilienceLINKSSUBSCRIBE to the Pod!anchor. fm/ta21

In this Episode of our attempt at imaginary radio that we like to call T&A: The Tens and Aces Podcast, we chat with full-time blackjack pro's ZK & Stan The Caddy. They share stories of their life on the road APing and what they've learned along the way. So, if this is the type of thing you'd like to hear, listen up, because we're about to give you some T&A!

This is a bonus episode of the podcast. Something I'm going to call a "Quick hit" episode. These episodes may be about AP play, or they might be about something else random that we feel like talking about. Nothing overtly political or controversial, just some fun bonus conversation for you to listen to while driving to your next stop. Here's the first edition of our "quick hit" episodes. Please let us know whether you like this kind of bonus content. After all, we're here to serve you! Don't worry, there's a full episode of T&A coming soon!

[NEW] Episode with this guest is coming soon! This is being re-released for those who may not have heard this first visit with MW Mike.Summary: In this episode, host Mike AP welcomes Midwest Mike, a rising advantage player (AP) in the blackjack community. Midwest Mike shares his unique journey from Michigan to the West Coast and back, chronicling his rapid ascent in the world of card counting. He discusses his origins, the role of luck versus skill, and his methodical approach to building a bankroll from $10,000 to $78,000. Midwest Mike emphasizes the importance of both technical skill and table presence, highlighting how his outgoing personality and sales background have been as vital as mastering the math. Listeners will hear about the highs and lows of AP life: grueling casino sessions, memorable back-off stories, emotional swings, and the lessons learned from networking with other APs. The episode wraps with advice for new card counters, stressing the value of developing a strong act alongside a winning game for long-term success.Key Takeaways:Midwest Mike started card counting after watching documentaries and training with Blackjack Apprenticeship, initially practicing basic strategy and running count before refining his skills.He built his bankroll from $10k to $78k, experiencing both lucky upswings and significant losses.Early on, his inconsistent bet spread limited his profits until feedback from fellow APs prompted him to be more disciplined with his betting.Midwest Mike credits much of his longevity and success to his extroverted personality and ability to blend in, using his social skills to build rapport with dealers and pit bosses.He details the emotional toll and lifestyle challenges of full-time AP play, especially when traveling.His biggest advice for new players: Work as much on your table act and persona as your technical skills. Being able to interact naturally and confidently is crucial for longevity.Notable Stories:Getting backed off at Snoqualmie before fully mastering the game.Playing marathon sessions and befriending casino staff in Washington.Navigating back-offs in the Midwest, including a memorable $10k losing session.The importance of networking with other APs and learning from their feedback.Advice for Listeners:Perfect your game, but also build your cover and interpersonal skills.Practice playing under real casino conditions, not just at home.Accept the emotional swings and keep a long-term focus.

T&A PODCAST - Part 2: Steve & Kal Thor InterviewThis episode covers dealer mistakes, hole card plays, side bets, backing off strategies, and wild casino stories from experienced advantage players.KEY TOPICSDealer Tells & MistakesDowntown Vegas dealer who'd ask "are you sure?" revealing no made handPost-COVID rusty dealers making obvious peeking errorsLucky Stiff side bet dealer paying unqualified hands (cost casino $3-4K)New casinos = inexperienced dealers = more mistakesSide BetsLucky Ladies +EV at +6.5 true count (Hi-Lo)1000:1 payout for suited queens w/ dealer blackjackTIP: Cash out immediately after big wins to avoid surveillance reviewBacking OffBe unmemorable - don't argue, just leaveStory: Flat-bet to $25 while "ploppy" betting $1000 allowed to continueDealer's response: "We let you bet $1000 - what does that say about your play?"Protecting Your IdentitySlot hand-pay tip: Refuse consent for automatic player's cardScript: "I do not consent to giving my information for creating a player's card"Only legally required to show ID to police, not securityRated vs Unrated DebateSome casinos require cards for premium gamesHard Rock: unrated players limited to 1 hand, 4x table minWeigh short-term comps vs. long-term accessKEY TAKEAWAYSLook beyond blackjack tables for opportunitiesScout new casinos and new table gamesSide bets = high variance despite +EVNetwork with other APs for intelProtect identity strategicallyCONTACT & RESOURCESEmail: [email protected]: r/tapodcastUse code T21 at Blackjack ApprenticeshipSUPPORT THE SHOWSubscribe for $4.99/month: Video episodes, ad-free audio, 3-day early accessMain podcast always 100% FREE!LINK TO SUBSCRIBE#Blackjack #AdvantagePlay #CardCounting #Casino #Gambling

100% optional $4.99/Month all-access T&A Membership LINKhttps://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/ta21/subscribeT&A Podcast - Episode SummaryThis is Part 2 of an interview with Chris, a professional advantage player. The episode dives deep into advanced card counting systems, casino experiences, and practical advice for aspiring advantage players.Chris discusses his transition from the Hi-Lo counting system to the more advanced CAC2 (a level-two count system), explaining the substantial advantages it provides. The conversation covers practical casino experiences, including dealing with trolls online, handling casino cage disputes, tipping strategies, and the realities of professional blackjack play.Hi-Lo vs. CAC2 Comparison: Chris explains why he switched from the popular Hi-Lo system to CAC2, a level-two counting systemPerformance Metrics: CAC2 shows approximately 2-2.5% average advantage compared to Hi-Lo's 0.75-1%Win Rate Differences: On a 6-deck game ($25-$2000 spread), CAC2 produces $611/hour vs Hi-Lo's $177/hourDouble Deck Advantages: On double deck games, CAC2 shows 3.13% EV with $1,640/hour vs Hi-Lo's 3.3% EV with $700/hourSystem Details: CAC2 is available on qfit.com for approximately $100Prediction: Chris believes CAC2 could eventually replace Hi-Lo as the gold standardDealing with inexperienced players asking for free simulation adviceThe importance of investing in proper tools (CVCX, Blackjack Apprenticeship software)Cage Dispute Story: Chris shares a detailed account of refusing to provide ID for a $1,500 cashout (below the $10,000 legal threshold)Importance of knowing your legal rights vs. casino policiesBack Counting: Chris's partner can allegedly back count up to 4 tables simultaneouslyBetting Ramps: Different optimal ramps for Hi-Lo vs. CAC2Session Management: Importance of staying calm but firm in disputesStrategy of betting tips alongside your bet (only costs the EV, not the full amount)Using tips strategically for cover or dealer goodwillDealers often taught basic strategy for games different from what they dealDifferences between tribal and commercial casinosChris's partner is described as "one of the best players still playing in the world"Expertise in multiple advantage play techniques beyond countingImportance of partnering with skilled players"If you can master that count, I think it's actually a great count. And I could foresee in the reasonable future CAC2 actually replacing Hi-Lo as the gold standard of counting."RESOURCES MENTIONEDCVCX (Casino Vérité Blackjack) - Professional simulation softwareBJA PBS (Blackjack Apprenticeship Pro Betting Software) - Recently upgradedCAC2 Counting System - Available at qfit.com for ~$100Norm Wattenberger - Creator of CVCX and owner of qfit.com.

In this transmission of our attempt at imaginary radio, something that we like to call the Tens and Aces podcast, host Mike AP sits down with two blackjack Advantage Players (APs), Steve and Calthor, to share their vastly different journeys in the game.Steve's AP Path: A recently retired 56-year-old, Steve shares how he transformed a 35-year blackjack hobby into a profitable, entertaining side hustle. He discusses his experience as a double deck specialist who plays rated to maximize comps and longevity, and his philosophy of aggressively chasing wins over pure Expected Value (EV)—a strategy the host warns is mathematically risky in the long run.Calthor's AP Rollercoaster: The 25-year-old AP, Calthor, details his rapid rise to becoming a full-time player, including recovering from a traumatic brain injury which he is using card counting to help rebuild neural pathways. He also shares his pivot to the lucrative world of online advantage play (AP) after moving across the country, his success with a coordinated AP team, and a wild story of discovering and exploiting a "broken" online slot machine that earned him over $44,000 before the casino fixed it.AP Strategies and Pitfalls: The conversation covers the pros and cons of playing rated, the danger of new online casino scams and loyalty program changes, and the value of having a trusted AP team.The episode is followed by the host's music selection, including the original track "Counting Cards in the Dark".

Today marks the 5th anniversary of this podcast! Thanks for listening!

In this episode of T&A: The Tens and Aces Podcast, host Mike AP sits down with seasoned advantage player Nichols to discuss the realities of playing blackjack professionally, managing variance, and maintaining a strong mindset. They explore practical tips for coping with losing streaks, the importance of perspective, and the mental discipline needed for success. The conversation delves into the psychological traits common among advantage players, such as critical thinking and strategic mindset, as well as ethical considerations and the art of finding loopholes in the game. Additionally, Nichols shares personal insights and reflections on balancing gambling with life. Whether you're a veteran AP or just starting your journey, this episode offers valuable advice and candid stories from the front lines of advantage play.The importance of viewing results in the context of long-term sample sizes.Acknowledging that losses are part of the game but keeping perspective helps maintain morale.The value of zooming out on your results to see the big picture and avoid frustration during losing streaks.Tips for beginners: taking breaks when stressed, testing your game regularly, and avoiding chasing losses.Finding the right balance between playing enough hours and avoiding negative feedback loops.The dangers of overbetting and under betting — sticking to EV positive plays.Maintaining focus on expected value rather than short-term results, especially when gambling is your primary income.The importance of having safety nets, such as savings, to reduce pressure.The mindset of advantage players: strategic, analytical, and sometimes Machiavellian.Psychological traits: giftedness, critical thinking, confidence, and sometimes narcissism.The need to mask true intentions and maintain a work mode during play.Managing interactions with casino staff and security, such as using loopholes related to ID scanners and buy-ins.The role of network knowledge in navigating casino policies and avoiding suspicion.How to handle ID scanners by being creative or blending into crowds.When and how to build chip inventories to avoid suspicious buy-ins.Using perceived action and social presence to reduce detection.Calculations for EV when taking side action (e.g., in craps) without sacrificing profitability.Focus on enjoying life beyond material possessions; avoid the hedonic treadmill.Practical advice on saving money, paying taxes, and planning for long-term financial stability.Emphasizing the importance of relationships and meaningful experiences over material gains.The analogy of AP as similar to strategic game theory, like the Prisoner’s Dilemma, balancing cooperation and self-interest.

Podcast Episode Summary:In this episode of The Tens & Aces Podcast, host Mike AP interviews Agent 21, a blackjack dealer and advantage player (AP). They discuss Agent 21’s background, how he got into blackjack — inspired by movies and early experiences dealing — and his journey of learning card counting and basic strategy. The conversation delves into the perspective of being both a dealer and an AP, sharing insightful observations on casino operations, signs of card counting, dealer and floor behaviors, and how casinos track players. They also explore memorable moments at the tables, notable players they've encountered, and the challenges of evading casino back-offs. The episode offers a candid look into the world of blackjack from both sides of the table, highlighting strategies, stories, and the balancing act of playing smart in the casino environment.Detailed Show Notes:Episode Title: Inside Blackjack: Dealer & Advantage Player Perspectives with Agent 21Intro & Welcome:Host Mike AP introduces the episode and the guest, Agent 21, a blackjack dealer and advantage player.Brief overview of the show's theme: real-life stories from pros and players navigating blackjack’s ups and downs.Guest Background & How He Got Into Blackjack:Inspired by the movie 21 and childhood poker lessons from his dad.Started dealing blackjack at 18 after researching how to become a dealer.First dealer job provided decent earnings with tips, through a combination of dealing and playing.Learning & Playing Blackjack:Studied basic strategy and card counting through videos and practice.First attempts to gamble involved basic strategy; full card counting took time to develop.Managed bankroll carefully, understanding variance in blackjack.Being Both Dealer & Advantage Player:Insights into how his dealer experience helps him recognize signs of card counting and dealer behaviors.Observations on dealer monotony, distracted floor staff, and signs of suspicious play like splitting tens.Recognizes that most dealers/ floors have limited training on detecting APs, but sharp staff can catch skilled players quickly.Casino Operations & Tracking Players:Casinos track patterns such as chips, bet sizes, buy-ins, and player behavior.Use of software/hardware to profile players (e.g., RN for refused name, chip locations).Techniques to evade detection: changing appearance, masks, disguises, and varying betting patterns.Notable Casino Stories & Encounters:Seen players double down on terrible hands for entertainment, e.g., a hard 16 vs. 10.Encounters with high-profile players, including NFL and NBA athletes, and wealthy high-stakes gamblers.Experience with back-offs—sometimes on the player, sometimes on other tables or from management.Strategies for avoiding back-offs: changing look, playing unrated, waiting periods.Casino Back-Off & Disguises:Missed a back-off that occurred during play but avoided detection later.Using disguises and countermeasures to re-enter casinos after being backed off.Memorable Moments & Observations:A player lost $30,000 in two hours but casually tossed a tip and left, exemplifying high-stakes reckless gambling.Dealer frustration with poor play and dealer advice given on the floor.The delicate balance of tipping dealers versus playing smartly.Pros & Cons of the Casino Environment:High action players are strategically filtered through minimum bets and table limits.Tipping can influence dealer cooperation and how long they keep you in play.The complex internal politics: dealers, floor, management, and players’ interests.Closing & Final Thoughts:Agent 21’s future plans: balancing school, blackjack, and ongoing interest in playing.Reflection on how COVID-19 and quarantine impact their casino activity.Appreciation for the role of skill and adaptation in blackjack success.

In this transmission of the Tens and Aces Podcast, we present a Stand 17 deviations audio tutorial. Listen up, because we're about to give you some T&A!

In this transmission of our attempt at imaginary radio, a little something that we like to call the Tens and Aces Podcast features a roundtable discussion hosted by Mike AP, focusing on the mental and physical well-being of Advantage Players (APs). The conversation includes insights from guests Colin Jones, Stan the Caddy, and Nichols, exploring the importance of health in the context of gambling. The episode emphasizes the need for APs to maintain good mental and physical health despite the challenges faced while traveling and playing. The discussions reflect on personal experiences and strategies to maintain a healthy lifestyle while pursuing Advantage Play, highlighting the significance of a balanced attitude and routine, especially after recent tragic losses in the community. The hosts share their backgrounds in the industry and touching anecdotes to underscore how establishing a healthy structure can enhance performance as players. This rerun features upgraded audio quality, providing valuable advice for both new and seasoned players alike.

In this episode of our attempt at imaginary radio, we present an interview with former guest and friend of the show, Chris. He's a full-time professional Blackjack Player and Advantage Player. #Blackjack#Card Counting#Advantage Play#Gambling#Casinos

In this episode of our attempt at imaginary radio, we bring you a blackjack basic strategy deviation tutorial for Hit 17 games!

In this episode of our experiment in imaginary radio, that we like the call the Tens and Aces Podcast, we present an interview with Colin Jones of Blackjack Apprenticeship, co-founder  the successful "Church Team" card counting team that was profiled in the documentary, "Holy Rollers" that is about a Christian Card Counting team based out of the Seattle area. If this is the type of thing you'd like to hear, listen up because we're about to give you some T&A!1 

In this transmission of our attempt at imaginary radio, we bring you the Tens and Aces Podcast. This is an interview from 2021 with an AP named Workhorse. We improved the audio and added a few things for this updated version. The original version, Episode 16 is still available as well, but only as an archived episode that is only available to paid subscribers.

In this transmission of our attempt at imaginary radio, a little thing the we like to call, T&A: The Ten's and Aces AP Blackjack Podcast, we welcome you to a discussion with 3 seasoned Blackjack Advantage players as they discuss the up's and downs of life on the felt. Now, are you ready for some T&A?

In this episode of our attempt at imaginary radio, something that we like to call the Tens and Aces Podcast, we present an episode with a roundtable discussion with five advantage Players "talking shop" sharing stories about blackjack, life on the road and all that comes with the life of an advantage player. If this is the type of thing you'd like to hear, we're about to give you some T&A!#Blackjack #AP #Advantage Play #Gambling #Stories #Casino

In this brand new episode of our experiment in imaginary radio, something that we like to call The Tens and Aces Podcast, we submit part two of our recent conversation with advantage player "Nickels" and discuss Blackjack, advantage play and so much more. If this is the type of thing you'd like to hear, listen up, because we're about to give you some T&A!

The copyright bots took down my original episode for 2021, over four years later. So, I republised this episode, removed the offending material the bots didn't like and added a little new stuff to boot! In this episode of our attempt at a transmission of  imaginary radio, it's a bit of a departure from our previous episodes of the podcast. It's a recording of our host, Mike, standing back and backcounting a table and listening to all the Ploppy-talk and somewhat engaging them as well as he does his thing watching the table. Later, Mike added play by play commentary as he listened back to the Shenanigans between said ploppies.

Here's another new episode of The Tens And Aces Blackjack Podcast! In this attempt at imaginary radio, we bring you a Husband and Wife Card Counting team who share fun stories and their AP journey. If this is the kind of thing you'd like to hear, listen up, because we're about to give you some T&A!

In this episode of our transmission of the Tens & Aces Blackjack Podcast, we bring you stories from YOU, our listeners!

This is where it all began, folks!This is the updated version of this episode that originally aired November 3, 2020 and was re-edited on February 27, 2025 This episode contains an interview with "The Snowman", a blackjack and poker AP with decades of experience and the stories to go with said experience. Listen up! Questions? Comments? Complaints? Compliments? EMAIL us at:  [email protected]

This is a Casino News Episode of the Tens and Aces Blackjack Podcast. Listen Up, Because we're about to give you some T&A!

In this episode of our transmission of our attempt at imaginary radio, that we like to call The Tens and Aces Podcast, we bring you an interview with Blackjack Apprenticeship member and blackjack advantage player, L_EC. We talk about how he got his start in the game and how it progressed from playing alone as a lone wolf to playing on a successful Blackjack card counting team. If this is the type of thing you'd like to hear, well, listen up! Because we're about to give you some T&A!-Mike 

This is a Valentine's Day edition of The Tens & Aces Podcast, Casino News show. In this Episode, Maddie and Jessica tackle a recent AP's lawsuit against a Casino and give an example of an older occurrence where a player sued a casino and win a substantial settlement, as well as the fall out of that historic case. Since it's Valentine's Day, I play some love songs I wrote at the end, just because I can! See You down the felt!

I hadn't realized until today in the middle of February 2025, that Episode 29 of the podcast was reverted to "draft" status and thus, it was not published and available for newer listeners to hear. So, I reposted it to my feed today. I took out some outdated ads we had on the original episode and added the new show outro because the old outro had a copyright issue, so I replaced it with my own music. I'm not very likely to sue myself, but you never know... if the mood strikes? haha. I also added some new episode art for episode 29. At the very end of the show, I played a few songs I wrote for those who tell me they enjoy that. So, those are for you folks! As always, those who don't enjoy them, it's all good. Feel free to just stop the show right there! Anyway, I'll see you down the felt! Mike AP In episode number 29, in a collector series, we present our attempt at a transmission of Imaginary radio, something we like to call, The Tens And Aces blackjack podcast, or T&A for short. In this episode we feature professional Blackjack player, Baron as he shares the ups and downs of his AP journey.  So if this is the type of thing you'd like to hear, well, listen up, because we're about to give you some T&A.

West Of The Rockies Episode 2. Maddie and Mike discuss the "Fates" and the "Furies" of Greek Mythology. Not an AP Episode, but curious minds might enjoy nonetheless.

In this episode, we present an 80 year-old Advantage player ,Joe! Joe was a guest on the shindig about two years ago. Now he's back with us to update us on how his AP Blackjack journey has been going over the past two years,