Talking Under Water

PODCAST · business

Talking Under Water

Talking Under Water is a One Water podcast for the water industry. Editors from Endeavor’s Water Group highlight news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts. Topics covered include water and wastewater treatment, stormwater and erosion control, diversity, regulations/legislation, flooding, circular water economy, water scarcity, small systems, emerging contaminants, smart water and more.

  1. 165

    Microplastics, Infrastructure Failures, and Stormwater News

    In this episode Talking Under Water the co-hosts discuss the addition of microplastics to the EPA’s Sixth Contaminant Candidate List (CCL6), enforcement fallout from the Potomac interceptor sewer collapse, industrial wastewater sampling tied to a Tesla facility in Texas, and recent stormwater headlines across the U.S.  Show notes How EPA Regulates Drinking Water Contaminants CCL 6 Frequent Questions Drinking Water Contaminant Candidate List 6-Draft Drinking Water Contaminant Candidate List 6 (CCL 6) Docket Folder Water Research Foundation Project 5155 (Consumer messaging guidance, microplastics) Understanding microplastics in water: Fact vs. fiction (Brent Alspach video interview) WaterWorld subscription EPA, DOJ sue DC Water over Potomac Interceptor collapse Lab analysis details wastewater characteristics at Tesla-linked site in Texas Poll: Which wastewater process area will you focus on this year? Charleston seeks $4.6 million to replace flood-prone homes with rain gardens, retention ponds  Grand Canyon eases water restrictions as aging system challenges persist L.A. County captures record 120 billion gallons of stormwater, boosting local supply Timestamps 00:00 Cold open 00:48 Introduction 01:27 EPA/HHS joint initiative announced to address microplastics 02:13 What the CCL is and how EPA uses it 02:39 How EPA decides whether to regulate (three criteria) 04:02 Draft CCL6 overview (chemicals, microbes, and groups) 05:01 Public comment process + key deadline 05:54 STOMP program explained 09:02 Potomac interceptor collapse 11:05 Tesla-linked wastewater characteristics  13:03 Douglas County, NV stormwater utility and rate proposals 14:33 Charleston, SC buyouts + rain gardens/retention 15:34 Grand Canyon National Park water system update 16:05 LA County stormwater capture numbers 17:07 Housekeeping About the Podcast Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.     Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media. 

  2. 164

    Voices from Water Week 2026: Ensuring Resilience and Affordability in Water Systems

    In this episode Talking Under Water co-host Bob Crossen discusses Water Week 2026 where key figures recorded messages from the event. The episode features firsthand perspectives from water sector leaders who gathered in Washington, D.C., for the annual Water Policy Fly‑In to advocate for national water priorities. Through voice memos from leaders at the Water Environment Federation, American Water Works Association, National Association of Clean Water Agencies, and utility representatives from across the country, listeners hear a consistent message: federal investment in water infrastructure is critical. Speakers point to concerns around declining State Revolving Fund support, the need for long‑term affordability, and the growing financial and regulatory pressures of PFAS management. Utility leaders explain how tools like SRF loans help keep water affordable for customers, especially as infrastructure ages and compliance costs rise. Crossen also reflects on related conversations with utility directors beyond Capitol Hill, tying Water Week priorities to broader operational challenges such as biosolids management, inflow and infiltration, and emerging technology needs. Together, these insights illustrate why coordinated advocacy and sustained federal support remain essential to the health, resilience, and affordability of water and wastewater systems nationwide. Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 00:21 – Water Week 2026 overview and purpose of the DC Fly‑In 00:51 – Overview of expert voice memos from WEF and AWWA 01:28 – Steve Dye (WEF) on energy, momentum, and advocacy on Capitol Hill 02:49 – Danielle Cloutier (NACWA) on record turnout and engagement with Congress 03:41 – Joint water sector priorities highlighted in the Water Week press release 03:47 – Key policy issues: infrastructure funding, PFAS, affordability, and “Do Not Flush” labels 04:53 – Cynthia Lane (AWWA) on building relationships and advancing legislation 05:59 – SRF, WIFIA, and growing funding tension for utilities 06:55 – Cynthia Lane post‑meeting recap from Capitol Hill 07:43 – Liesel Gross on infrastructure funding and PFAS 08:38 – Jason Barrett on aging infrastructure needs 09:14 – SRF funding, affordability, and economies of scale 11:07 – Connecting Water Week themes to PFAS, biosolids, and geopolitics 12:25 – Inflow and infiltration as a growing national challenge 12:44 – Emerging technologies, SCADA integration, and AI interest 13:19 – Why federal policy decisions matter for local utilities 13:53 – Closing thanks to WEF and AWWA contributors 14:12 – Housekeeping   Resources: Use code WWD15 to get 15% off your attendee pass when you register at StormCon.com.   About the Podcast Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.     Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media. 

  3. 163

    The battle over Colorado River resources is brewing

    In this episode Talking Under Water co-hosts discuss escalating water use restrictions in Denver, the broader legal and political fight over Colorado River allocations, and what differing conservation strategies reveal about the future of water management in the West. The conversation begins with Denver Water’s declaration of a Stage 1 drought, outlining outdoor watering limits, fines for repeat violations, and how these measures compare with long‑standing, highly structured conservation programs in Southern Nevada. The episode then zooms out to the Colorado River basin, breaking down the growing split between upper and lower basin states, the looming possibility of Supreme Court litigation, and disagreements over delivery obligations rooted in the 1922 Colorado River Compact. The hosts explore what water scarcity could mean for cities, agriculture, and priority water rights, and why the lack of a statewide curtailment plan in Colorado raises serious questions. In additional news, the podcast reflects on the passing of Dr. James Barnard, a pioneering figure in biological nutrient removal, and covers bipartisan federal efforts to fund advanced wastewater treatment for PFAS. The episode rounds out with updates on sediment cleanups, beach water quality monitoring, stormwater permitting debates, and ongoing concerns about affordability as utilities face increasing regulatory and infrastructure demands.  Show Notes: Denver water restrictions expected to begin March 25 amid near-record low snowpack Denver Water Rules for outdoor water use Denver Water’s 2026 Water Budget Program The Colorado River is on the brink of possible forced water cuts. One thing is certain: There will be lawyers. Las Vegas Valley Conservation Schedule Las Vegas Valley water waste fees and policies Lower Colorado River Basin states agree to conserve 3 million acre-feet of water (2023) Opposing viewpoints: what the Colorado River water allocation debate is about, and who has piped up Water Technology House advances BEACH Act reauthorization to strengthen water quality monitoring EPA resumes Cuyahoga River sediment cleanup in Ohio EPA resumes final phase of Rouge River sediment cleanup in Detroit PFAS contamination raises new concerns in Louisiana facility's stormwater discharges Stormwater sector pushes back as Washington targets permits: rules and affordable housing can coexist Wastewater pioneer James Barnard dies at 90  Bipartisan bill targets funding for advanced wastewater treatment and PFAS removal EPA seeks public input on financial capability guidance for wastewater upgrades Timestamps:   01:23 – Denver Water declares Stage 1 drought 02:18 – Stage 1 drought rules explained 04:11 – Colorado River basin context 05:31 – The 1922 Colorado River Compact 06:51 – Lower basin conservation agreement 07:45 – States respond as litigation looms 08:41 – Nevada water conservation comparison 10:31 – Potential impacts to Colorado water users 12:12 – Agriculture vs. municipal water use debate 14:32 – Passing of Dr. James Barnard 15:22 – PFAS treatment funding proposal 16:20 – EPA affordability guidance update 17:16 – Federal water policy & cleanup updates 19:24 – PFAS contamination incident 20:09 – Stormwater permitting under scrutiny 20:44 – Housekeeping   Resources:   Use code WWD15 to get 15% off your attendee pass when you register at StormCon.com.   About the Podcast Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.     Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media. 

  4. 162

    Different by Design: Turning 30 Years of Expertise into Utility Confidence

    Utilities hold more power than they think. In this day and age, with a few taps of a keyboard, information is literally at your fingertips. For some, that’s a simple Google search, and others a query with a generative AI tool. But for those more enterprising utility leaders, operators and managers, that interaction in peer groups on Facebook, LinkedIn, Discord or other platforms.  They share best practices with each other, answer questions, provide guidance on management decisions, and it is a forum for open and honest thoughts about products in the market place. Utilities are holding vendors accountable with each other.  Bruce Bharat, regional president of the Americas for Kamstrup, has taken notice of this trend and other purchasing influences in the market. In this sponsored interview, Bob Crossen talks with him about how the Information Age has changed the way modern utilities interact with Kamstrup, why that drives innovation and how being different is a good thing.  This episode is sponsored by Kamstrup Resources:  WaterWorld Digital Edition  SWS Digital Edition  WWD YouTube Channel  About the Podcast      Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WaterWorld and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.      Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  5. 161

    Lifting as we climb: building trust, confidence, and future leaders in water

    In this episode Talking Under Water co-host Mandy Crispin speaks with Angela Walker who is the Assistant Director of Wastewater Operations at the Brunswick‑Glynn Joint Water & Sewer Commission and one of the inspirations for this year’s Women in Water feature story. Walker reflects on her career journey, the role her mother played in shaping her sense of responsibility and stubborn determination, and the ways her team supported her during a profound personal loss. She shares candid insights on navigating male‑dominated spaces, building trust within utility teams, and creating a culture where knowledge is shared — not guarded — through cross‑training and collaboration between operations and maintenance. The conversation dives into systems thinking during plant upsets, staying calm under pressure, and leading with accountability instead of blame. Walker also speaks to the industry’s role in long‑term water sustainability, from water reuse potential to the challenges posed by data centers and emerging contaminants. This episode highlights why utilities are about more than infrastructure. They’re about people, public health, and the future of water.   Show notes Women in Water 2026 Angela G. Walker LinkedIn   Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 01:04 – Developing technical confidence & owning your seat at the table 02:32 – Remembering her mother & early influences 04:04 – Team support, trust, and leadership culture 05:44 – Barriers for women in technical leadership 07:59 – Lifting others as we climb / Knowledge‑sharing culture 11:12 – Systems thinking & staying calm under pressure 13:45 – Public health, sustainability, and water reuse 18:26 – Closing thoughts & where to find Angela Walker 19:54 – Housekeeping   About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

  6. 160

    EPA’s legal PFAS battle, tariff fallout, and America’s aging water systems

    In this episode, Talking Under Water co‑hosts discuss the newest PFAS regulatory developments, major legal challenges, and the mounting strain on water and stormwater infrastructure across the U.S. The conversation begins with the EPA’s decision to add PFHXSNA to the Toxics Release Inventory, expanding federal PFAS tracking and community access to chemical data. The hosts then outline the unfolding court battle over EPA’s PFAS drinking water rule, detailing the agency’s motion to sever and pause litigation on the hazard index and the strong opposition filed by AWWA and AMWA, who argue that utilities need unified judicial review to plan for compliance.   The episode also explores the Supreme Court’s recent ruling striking down President Trump’s tariff plan and how the administration is seeking new legal pathways to maintain tariffs. From there, the hosts examine the politically charged response to the Potomac Interceptor sewer collapse, highlighting the operational, financial, and communication challenges surrounding the incident.   Closing out, the show turns to stormwater struggles on both coasts — catch basin failures and compliance gaps in Connecticut, and severe flooding, lawsuits, and multibillion‑dollar funding shortfalls in San Diego — underscoring nationwide infrastructure vulnerabilities. The episode concludes with key industry updates and program announcements.   Show Notes EPA adds PFHxS-Na to toxics release inventory, expanding PFAS reporting Court battle over EPA PFAS rule turns to procedural fight AWWA-v-EPA-PFAS-Our-Opposition-to-Motion-to-Sever (PDF)   Additional AWWA Resources for these court proceedings EPA Motion to Sever and Hold Challenges to Index PFAS in Abeyance Supreme Court strikes down Trump-era tariffs, raising implications for infrastructure costs Trump calls for federal response to Potomac Interceptor collapse   Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 01:06 – Episode overview (topics the episode will cover) 01:19 – PFAS TRI addition explanation (PFHXSNA added to toxics release inventory) 04:09 – EPA motion on PFAS drinking water rule (EPA asks court to sever hazard index challenge) 09:36 – AWWA & AMWA opposition filing (utilities argue judicial review should remain unified) 14:22 – Supreme Court strikes down Trump tariff plan (overview of the decision and implications) 16:35 – Potomac Interceptor sewer collapse (political conflict and infrastructure impacts) 21:34 – Connecticut stormwater infrastructure challenges (Meriden compliance gaps and repairs) 22:54 – San Diego stormwater failures (flooding, lawsuits, funding shortfall) 24:13 – Housekeeping (polls, nominations, and program updates) About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

  7. 159

    Building the next generation of water utility leaders: inside Xavier University’s new master’s program

    In this episode Talking Under Water co-host Bob Crossen talks with John Ikeda and Justin Roush about the launch of Xavier University’s groundbreaking Water Utilities Management master’s degree — the first program of its kind in the United States. Together, they discuss how the degree was conceived, the industry challenges it aims to address, and why workforce development has become one of the most urgent priorities for water and wastewater utilities. Ikeda, chief mission officer at the Water Environment Federation (WEF), and Roush, assistant economics professor at Xavier and director of the new program, outline the growing need for specialized utility leadership as retirements accelerate and system complexity increases. They explain how the curriculum blends foundational business skills with utility‑specific coursework in areas like rate setting, regulation, capital improvement planning, and strategic communications. The discussion also highlights unique residency experiences, cohort‑based learning, and the program’s intentional focus on networking and long‑term career growth. Crossen, Ikeda, and Roush explore how the master’s degree fits into broader sector‑wide workforce strategies and why emerging topics — such as AI in water — are being built directly into the curriculum. The episode offers a forward‑looking look at how the program aims to elevate future water utility leaders across the U.S. Show Notes Xavier University Water Utility Management Program Xavier University Water Utility Management Program on LinkedIn Poll: What is your biggest workforce challenge in 2026? WWD Emerging Leaders submissions WW Emerging Leaders submissions WW Women in Water Questionnaire StormCon 2026 registration Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 01:25 – Guest introductions 02:24 – Origin of the master's program 04:49 – Why traditional programs fall short 06:53 – What makes water utilities unique 08:20 – Role of WEF in program development 10:44 – Why visibility and career pathways matter 11:30 – Cohort model & residency experiences 18:44 – Unique program features 27:15 – Housekeeping announcements and closing reminders About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

  8. 158

    Forecasting water in 2026: data centers and wastewater association goals

    In this episode of Talking Underwater, co-hosts Mandy Crispin and Bob Crossen explore the forces shaping the water and wastewater sector as the industry looks ahead to 2026.  The conversation opens with insights into new research on the growing water demands of data centers in Texas. Drawing from a recent white paper by the Houston Advanced Research Center (HARC), Crispin outlines how existing and planned data center development could significantly strain drinking water supplies if water planning and policy fail to keep pace with rapid growth.  Crossen then shares insights from a January poll on wastewater capital spending priorities. Results show utilities are primarily focused on treatment process upgrades and collection system improvements, while resilience and emergency preparedness rank surprisingly low.  The episode wraps with a broader look at 2026 industry forecasts from the Water Environment Federation (WEF) and the National Association of Clean Water Agencies (NACWA). Key themes include workforce development, the rise of the circular water economy, policy efforts around PFAS and the “polluter pays” principle, funding through state revolving funds, and affordability programs such as LIHWAP. Together, these perspectives suggest a shift from big‑picture concepts toward practical action as utilities confront emerging challenges and opportunities in the year ahead. Show Notes Thirsty Data and the Lone Star State: The Impact of Data Center Growth on Texas’ Water Supply What is perchlorate in drinking water? Poll results: 2026 wastewater capital spending priorities Looking forward: WEF’s strategics priorities and collective action for the wastewater sector NACWA’s clean water initiatives focus on liability, affordability and infrastructure AWWA outlines federal priorities for water and wastewater utilities in the 119th Congress Poll: What is your biggest workforce challenge in 2026? WWD Emerging Leaders submissions WW Emerging Leaders submissions StormCon 2026 registration Timestamps 00:28 – Introduction 01:05 – Overview of HARC white paper on Texas data centers and water use 01:42 – Projections for data center water demand by 2030 04:13 – Policy recommendations 06:23 – January capital spending poll overview 07:55 – 2026 WEF priorities 09:15 – 2026 NACWA policy and legislative focus 09:34 – State Revolving Fund reauthorization 10:08 – Low‑Income Household Water Assistance Program (LIHWAP) 11:15 – Housekeeping announcements and closing reminders About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

  9. 157

    One Water: AI and energy needs in a sustainable water future

    In this episode Talking Under Water co-host Bob Crossen speaks with Gabriel Collins, the Baker Botts Fellow in Energy and Environmental Regulatory Affairs at Rice University’s Baker Institute for Public Policy, about the evolving pressures on industrial water use and the widening implications of the AI boom. Drawing from his cross-sector expertise, Collins unpacks why water is an inherently hyper‑local resource and how industries — ranging from semiconductor fabrication to refineries and petrochemical plants — are adapting to shrinking supplies and rising costs. The conversation explores how data centers are straining municipal systems and, in some cases, driving new water‑reuse investments. Collins shares real‑world examples illustrating how creative contracting and industrial partnerships can help utilities upgrade critical infrastructure. He also highlights the increasing viability of air‑cooling technology as an alternative in water‑scarce regions. Shifting to oil and gas, Collins explains how produced water, seismicity concerns, and disposal challenges are prompting operators to rethink water management strategies. Throughout the discussion, he stresses the importance of “fit‑for‑purpose” water use and the opportunities for circular water practices that avoid mixing contaminated and freshwater streams. The episode closes with a look at the logistical and economic barriers that still limit a truly integrated one‑water approach. Show Notes Gabriel Collins, Baker Institute for Public Policy Gabriel Collins on LinkedIn The Sinews of Civilization Substack WWD Emerging Leaders submissions WW Emerging Leaders submissions StormCon 2026 registration Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 01:39 – Industrial Water Use in 2026 03:04 – Blind Spots vs. Barriers 05:07 – Water Reuse, Recycling, and Sector Differences 06:34 – Fit‑for‑Purpose Water & Evolving Standards 09:02 – Costs, Margins, and Sensitivity to Water Price 11:03 – Data Centers & Municipal Pressure 14:25 – Policy Levers & Infrastructure Investment 17:34 – Oil & Gas: Produced Water, Disposal, and Seismicity 20:19 – One Water & Virtual Water Displacement 22:08 – Barriers to Circular Water 26:35 – Housekeeping About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

  10. 156

    EPA proposal for Perchlorate MCL, new PFAS treatment and infrastructure failures

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, Mandy Crispin and Bob Crossen discuss the EPA’s proposal to establish a national primary drinking water regulation for perchlorate under the Safe Drinking Water Act. The hosts break down the proposed rule, monitoring requirements, cost implications, and what utilities should prepare for, plus give updates on PFAS treatment research and recent wastewater spills. Show Notes EPA proposes national drinking water rule for perchlorate Federal Register: Proposed national primary drinking water regulation for perchlorate What do the new PFAS MCLs mean for the water industry? Steps water systems can take to address perchlorate in drinking water (2020 EPA guidance document) New copper-aluminum layered double hydroxide technology offers sustainable PFAS remediation Georgetown isolates 42-inch wastewater line failure after San Gabriel River spill Houston reports wastewater spill exceeding 100,000 gallons following collection system failure Timestamps 00:00 – Cold open 00:54 – Introduction to episode and overview 01:32 – EPA proposal for perchlorate regulation explained 03:49 – Comparing perchlorate MCLs to PFAS standards 05:00 – Binning approach for monitoring frequency 07:21 – Waiver process for reduced monitoring 09:41 – Initial monitoring requirements and costs 10:02 – Public comment deadline and hearing details 11:04 – PFAS treatment research update 12:23 – Wastewater spill reports 15:29 – Housekeeping About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

  11. 155

    Where is the water industry heading in 2026?

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts discuss the state of the industry surveys from each water brand — Wastewater Digest and WaterWorld — with some data points. The hosts provide some analysis of the results, including what some of the biggest challenges and trends are moving into 2026.   Show Notes:    2025 State of the One Water Industry 2024 State of the One Water Industry Timestamps:    Cold open | 0:00 Episode summary | 1:01 Financial trends | 6:29 Organizational health | 9:45 Key industry issues | 32:05 Housekeeping | 40:24  Resources:  WWD Videos WW Magazine Subscription StormCon Registration About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  12. 154

    One Water, Many Worlds: Insights from a global fellowship

    In this episode of Talking Under Water as Kaitlin Spiridellis shares insights from her year-long global fellowship exploring water challenges and solutions across five continents. From Europe’s luxury water market and Vienna’s century-old gravity-fed system to sanitation campaigns in Indonesia, equity efforts for First Nations in Australia, and innovative partnerships in Africa, this episode uncovers surprising patterns in water stress and highlights emerging technologies shaping the future of “One Water” management. Kaitlin also reflects on the emotional impact of her journey and her optimism for global collaboration in building resilient, equitable water systems.  Show Notes:  World of water landing page The Water Chronicles: A Journey to Understand the World’s Water Disparities Timestamps: Cold open - 0:00 Host introduction and episode summary - 0:53 Europe segment - 2:04 Australia - 15:04 Africa - 19:00 Global themes &  future outlook- 22:44 Personal reflection - 33:00 Housekeeping - 36:55 About the Podcast       Talking Under Water, a production of Endeavor Business Media, a division of EndeavorB2B, is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest(WWD), WaterWorld and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.    

  13. 153

    FEMA administrator resignation, WOTUS rules, PFAS reporting & DOE investments

    In this episode of Talking Under Water the hosts discuss recent industry news, including the resignation of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) acting administrator, David Richardson; a newly proposed rule of Waters of the United States from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and U.S. Army Corp; the EPA proposing to revise PFAS reporting under the Toxic Substances Control Act, the Water Infrastructure Modernization Act; and investments from the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) into resource recovery research and some patent-pending research for Purdue University surrounding PFAS chemicals.  Show Notes:     Search for the PFAS reporting rule change under docket #EPA-HQ-OPPT-2020-0549 here. View a prepublication version of the PFAS reporting rule change proposal here. Water Infrastructure Modernization Act of 2025 aims at expanding intelligent water infrastructure FEMA acting chief resigns amid disaster response concerns EPA, Army propose new WOTUS definition aimed at clarity and regulatory certainty Purdue researchers develop rapid PFAS screening and replacement method DOE invests $25 million to recover critical minerals from U.S. wastewater Timestamps:    Cold open - 0:00 Host introductio nand episode summary - 0:52 FEMA Administrator resigns - 1:38 EPA releases proposed WOTUS rule - 2:15 EPA proposes TSCA PFAS reporting updates - 3:44 Water Infrastructure Modernization Act of 2025 - 6:21 Purdue research on PFAS chemical alternatives - 7:56 DOE invests $25 million into wastewater resource recovery - 9:02 Housekeeping - 10:16 Resources:  WWD webinars WaterWorld November/December digital edition SWS digital update About the Podcast       Talking Under Water, a production of Endeavor Business Media, a division of EndeavorB2B, is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest(WWD), WaterWorld and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  14. 152

    The Cost of Quality: Rethinking Water Meter ROI

    The water meter is the cash register for a water utility. For those how have worked win the water business for any amount of time, they've likely heard that adage. But how does a water system choose the right meter for the utility? Should utilities pick the cheap option because they cash-strapped? What is the difference if they are willing to pay for higher quality? In this sponsored interview with Kamstrup, Jake Piccioni, solution manager for Kamstrup, talks about the company’s “culture of quality” to ensure their customers have the very best meters in their systems. Learn how high quality meters can lead to long-term savings with total cost of ownership, and that’s even before considering the benefits that newer modern meters offer utilities in terms of accuracy, pressure and other measured parameters.  Show Notes Learn more about Kamstrup: https://www.kamstrup.com/en-us/water-solutions Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction to episode and guest 01:10 – What challenges do utilities face when lower quality meters are used? How can that increase the total cost of ownership? 03:29 – What about the Kamstrup designs sets these meters apart?  06:24 – What about the materials? What are your meters made of? 08:00 – Given this scrutiny Kamstrup places on the design and materials, how then does that cultural of quality translate to manufacturing of the meters? What rigors do these meters go through for QA and QC?  10:54 – What are the dangers of having poor or inaccurate data for a utility? What can utilities realize when they have good data? 14:16 – Outro About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

  15. 151

    Water’s role in climate resilience

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, co-host Katie Johns spoke with Dr. Jeremy Hoffman, director of Impact Evaluation and Community Science at Groundwork USA, about water's role in climate resilience. Dr. Hoffman spoke about his research with Groundwork USA, including heat and flood data; touches on the importance of community engagement and shares what challengees the industry is facing when it comes to resiliency.  Show Notes:     Cooling urban heat islands with smart stormwater systems Resilience isn’t one-size-fits-all: Rethinking resilience for locally impactful solutions New report finds water infrastructure investment could add $3.9 trillion to U.S. GDP Transforming wastewater into renewable natural gas and advancing the circular water economy Groundwork USA Timestamps:    Intro | 00:08 Hoffman's climate science background | 01:06 Overview of Groundwork USA and its mission | 04:09 NOAA’s Urban Heat Island Mapping Campaigns | 05:06 Water’s central role in climate resilience | 08:47 Challenges of addressing climate change |16:42 How environmental conditions drive disparities in life expectancy across neighborhoods | 19:03 Defining climate resilience | 21:01 Closing thoughts | 23:55 Housekeeping | 25:26 Resources: WWD Q3 Trump Performance Poll WaterWorld Subscription StormCon Call for Abstracts About the Podcast       Talking Under Water, a production of Endeavor Business Media, a division of EndeavorB2B, is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest(WWD), WaterWorld and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.        

  16. 150

    Hurricane Melissa, USACE funding pause & American Water and Essential Utilities Merger

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts break down recent news happening in the water industry. First, they covers the impacts of Hurricane Melissa, which made historic landfall in Jamaica on October 28 as a Category 5 hurricane before moving through Cuba and the Bahamas, leaving widespread damage and power outages across the Caribbean. Then, they dive into the Trump administration’s decision to pause more than $11 billion in funding for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers projects amid the ongoing federal government shutdown. Finally, they details the blockbuster $63 billion all-stock merger between American Water and Essential Utilities—set to create one of the largest regulated water and wastewater providers in the U.S. Show Notes:     What to know about Hurricane Melissa Trump administration pauses $11B in Army Corps water projects amid budget standoff  Army Corps of Engineers Pausing $11B in Projects, White House Official Says  How the government shutdown affects water and wastewater utilities  NJ Governor proposes revisions to data center reporting bill to include water use study  American Water and Essential Utilities announce merger to form $40B water and wastewater utility Timestamps:    Cold open and intro | 0:00 Episode summary | 01:17 Hurricane Melissa impacts across the Caribbean | 01:33 Transition to next story |03:39 Pause in U.S. Army Corps of Engineers project funding | 03:50 New Jersey governor revises data center reporting bill | 07:07 American Water and Essential Utilities announce $63B merger | 08:01 Housekeeping and announcements | 11:04 Resources:  WEFTEC coverage WaterWorld subscriptions StormCon call for papers About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.       Editor's note: The episode summary and timestamps were written with the assistance of AI.  

  17. 149

    The Future of Water: Meet the 2025 Rising One Water Leaders

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, co-Host Katie Johns spoke with Ryan Barton, hydrologist for the Navajo Nation Department of Water Resources Water Management Branch, and Jocelyn Lu Morinishi, principal engineer at Brown and Caldwell as both of them have been named the Outstanding Rising One Water Leaders for the 2025 US Water Prize awarded by the US Water alliance. The two share their career paths, what the One Water movement means to them, their career goals and much more. Show Notes:     US Water Prize Navajo Nation Water Rights Commission Timestamps:  Introduction | 0:00  Early career journeys | 01:00  Inspiration and shared roots | 05:45  Becoming Rising One Water Leaders | 06:45  Reflections on culture and community | 10:30  Looking ahead: career goals | 13:10  Mentorship and stewardship | 18:30  Water sector challenges and solutions | 19:30  Closing thoughts and resources | 27:00  Resources:  WWD State of the Industry Survey Wastewater Digest WEFTEC content WaterWorld State of the Industry Survey SWS webinar with the Center for Watershed Protection About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.   Editor's note: The timestamps were written with the assistance of AI.

  18. 148

    PFAS legal action, Jessica Kramer’s EPA appointment & updates to NOAA’s flood mapping tool

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the co-hosts discuss recent industry news including two U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) PFAS legal actions. First, the agency motioned to partially vacate a court case in which American Water Works Association (AWWA) sued the agency for procedural missteps in how it developed the concentration limits that defined the Hazard Index. Second, EPA announced its intentions for the Comprehensive, Environmental Response, Compensation and Liability Act, known as CERCLA or the Superfund. The hosts also cover Jessica Kramer’s confirmation as assistant administrator of the EPA’s Office of Water; the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s updates to its flood mapping tool; and post-Hurricane Helene recovery efforts a year after the storm.   Show Notes:     Legal challenges cloud future of PFAS regulation as EPA moves to vacate PFAS MCL EPA outlines next steps on PFOA and PFOS cleanup under CERCLA EPA funds water infrastructure resiliency in North Carolina after Hurricane Helene NOAA expands flood inundation mapping tool to cover 60% of the U.S. population Senate confirms Jessica Kramer to lead EPA Office of Water Timestamps:    Cold open & intro | 00:00 Episode overview | 00:22 Government shutdown update | 00:45 Jessica Kramer confirmed to EPA Office of Water | 01:42  PFAS legal actions | 04:33 EPA post-hurricane funding in North Carolina |08:09 NOAA flood inundation mapping tool expansion | 09:06 Housekeeping & announcements | 10:19 Closing | 11:3 Resources:  Tunnels & Tech eBook  WWD workplace culture webinar  Renew your WaterWorld subscription  SWS webinar with the Center for Watershed Protection  About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.      

  19. 147

    Graceful Failure vs. Flawless Operations: Understanding an AMI System's True Fortitude

    As climate uncertainty and cybersecurity threats escalate, the utility industry is bracing for a future it can’t fully control. Over the past year alone, we’ve seen catastrophic events that exposed the vulnerabilities of water systems across the country. Talking Under Water Podcast host and VP of EB2B’s Water Group Bob Crossen spoke with Blake Michal, Manager of Solution Management at Kamstrup North America, about the difference between reliability and resilience, and learn why utilities must prioritize one over the over. Show Notes Learn more about Kamstrup: https://www.kamstrup.com/en-us/water-solutions Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction to episode and guest 00:27 – Utilities face growing operational threats 00:40 – Smart tech for reliability and resilience 01:15 – Preparing for inevitable disruptions 02:22 – Building flexible, resilient systems 03:02 – Graceful failure vs flawless performance 04:11 – Reliability vs resilience explained 06:22 – Why reliability must come first 07:18 – Reliable ultrasonic meters and networks 08:23 – Resilience during system failures 10:13 – Real-world hurricane response example 11:09 – Kamstrup’s failure-free performance mindset 12:19 – Less than 0.25% return rate 13:08 – Where utilities should begin 14:24 – Final message: invest in both 15:47 – Smart Water eHandbook promo 16:13 – Water reuse eHandbook promo 16:34 – Stormwater survey call-to-action 17:02 – Contact and social media info Resources World of Water: www.waterworld.com/world-of-water Hot Innovations in Wastewater Treatment eHandbook: https://www.wwdmag.com/ehandbooks/wastewater-treatment/whitepaper/55281395/wastewater-treatment Register for StormCon: www.stormcon.com About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

  20. 146

    Finding holistic One Water success with the A-I-R process

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, co-Host Bob Crossen speaks with Jacquelin Mutter, One Water planning lead, and Trent Stober, utility management services director, both for HDR about using the A-I-R process to optimize One Water processes. Mutter and Sober discuss how A-I-R, which stands for Assess, Identify and Reimagine, can help utilities navigate their One Water approaches successfully. The two also discuss why the One Water approach is important to the industry and how A-I-R can benefit water utilities. Show Notes: Discover and Expand Multiple Benefits by Applying a One Water Perspective One water: Integrated water resource management is the future What is One Water? Timestamps: Intro | 00:00 Meet the guests: Jacqueline Mutter & Trent Stober of HDR |00:01:00 Challenges facing today’s utilities | 00:02:20 Defining One Water and making it actionable | 00:04:00 The AIR process: Assess, Identify, Reimagine | 00:05:00 Embedding equity and resilience into planning | 00:08:10 Benefits of One Water for utilities & communities | 00:09:40 Enhancing core services through a holistic approach | 00:12:15 Real-world challenges: data centers, industry, and partnerships | 00:14:30 Building smarter investments and business cases | 00:16:40 Workforce resilience & cross-training initiatives | 00:18:00 The growing role of communications in the water sector | 00:19:30 Closing reflections | 00:20:00 Outro & housekeeping (magazine, WEFTEC, webinars) | 00:21:35 Resources: WaterWorld September/October issue Stormwater Awareness Week Webinar Subscribe to WaterWorld Subscribe to Stormwater Solutions About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water, a production of Endeavor Business Media, a division of EndeavorB2B,  highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.   Editor's Note: The episode timestamps were written with the assistance of generative AI.

  21. 145

    NSW hiring, WY DOT projects, Tijuana sewage updates & workplace safety

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts discuss relevant industry news, including the approval given to the National Weather Service to hire 450 new employees; Wyoming Department of Transportation projects that intersect roads, bridgese and stormwater; updates from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency on the Tijuana sewage crisis and a sediment control project; and finally, the importance of workplace safety in light of recent sombering events. Show Notes:     National Weather Service to hire 450 workers following cuts Wyoming Transportation Commission awards $33.1 million in contracts for DOT projects South Bay International Wastewater Treatment Plant completes 10 MGD expansion EPA, Ohio and Partners Highlight Sediment Cleanup Project Start in Cuyahoga Falls Authorities identify 3 workers who died due to toxic sewer gas in Trinity County  Three Houston-area men die from toxic gas exposure in Trinity County manhole incident  Two Workers Killed by Suspected Gas Exposure in Sewer Line Accident Near Mobile, Alabama  OSHA’s confined space regulations  Timestamps:    Cold Open | 00:00 Introductions & Subscription reminder |  00:00:38 Episode summary | 00:01:20 National Weather Service hiring 450 staff | 00:01:41 Wyoming DOT stormwater and infrastructure projects | 00:02:11 EPA Updates: Tijuana sewage crisis and Cuyahoga River sediment cleanup | 00:03:37 Texas trench tragedy & Workplace safety reflections | 00:06:50 Housekeeping  | 00:10:10 Resources:  Wastewater Digest YouTube  WaterWorld September/October issue SWS Stormwater Awareness Week Webinar  Stormwater Solutions September/October issue About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water, a production of Endeavor Business Media, a division of EndeavorB2B,  highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.   Editor's Note: The episode timestamps were written with the assistance of generative AI.    

  22. 144

    Rivers Under the Microscope: How to Use AI to Monitor Water Quality

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, co-Host Katie Johns is talks with Professor John Colbourne, director of the University of Birmingham’s Centre for Environmental Research and Justice and Dr. Xiaojing Li, post- doctorate research fellow in precision and environmental health at University of Birmingham, to discuss their research using AI and water fleas to identify harmful substances in waterways. The two touch on their research results and how they can inform future regulations but also share how AI can be used elsewhere in the water industry.   Show Notes:     Daphnia as a Sentinel Species for Environmental Health Protection: A Perspective on Biomonitoring and Bioremediation of Chemical PollutionClick to copy article link Bioactivity Profiling of Chemical Mixtures for Hazard Characterization The Centre for Environmental Research and Justice (CERJ) Timestamps:    Episode introduction | 00:00:09  How AI helps analyze water quality |00:01:28 Using AI with chemical and biological datasets | 00:05:02 River selection for case study research | 00:06:58 Why water fleas (Daphnia) were chosen | 00:08:49 Unique biology and ecological role of Daphnia | 00:13:08  Research results: five patterns, 43 key chemicals | 00:15:36 Implications for regulation and toxicity testing | 00:19:13 AI, accountability, and environmental justice | 00:22:06 Other uses of AI in the water industry | 00:24:01 Collaboration between academia and industry | 00:25:37 Housekeeping and listener resources | 00:28:04 Resources:  WWD YouTube WaterWorld subscriptions SWS State of the Industry Survey About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water, a production of Endeavor Business Media, a division of EndeavorB2B,  highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.   Editor's Note: The timestamps were written with the assistance of generative AI.  

  23. 143

    State Revolving Fund updates, Waterkeeper Alliance PFAS analysis results & water system upgrades

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, co-hosts Katie Johns, Mandy Crispin, and Alex Cossin discuss recent industry news, including the Waterkeeper Alliance’s latest PFAS analysis, revealing that 98% of sampled U.S. waterways tested positive for PFAS contamination; recent business acquisitions; infrastructure upgrades by San Jose Water, including water main replacements and the use of AI in asset management, and Indiana American Water’s groundbreaking of a new $50 million treatment plant in Seymour, Indiana. Finally, the hosts dive into updates on State Revolving Funds (SRFs). The U.S. House of Representatives has proposed significant cuts to SRF programs, while the Senate favors maintaining current funding levels. With the September 30 budget deadline looming, the future of water infrastructure funding remains uncertain.  Show Notes:     98% of waterways found to have PFAS contamination Waterkeeper Alliance PFAS Report Phase II  StormTrap CEO discusses Faircloth Skimmer acquisition San Jose Water  Indiana American Water breaks ground on $50 million water treatment facility  National Association of Counties appropriations tracker  Timestamps:    Hosts introduce the episode | 00:00:50 PFAS found in 98% of tested waterways |00:01:14  StormTrap acquires Faircloth Skimmer |00:02:32 San Jose Water’s infrastructure upgrades |00:03:19 Seymour, Indiana’s new water treatment plant |00:05:41 Overview of the SRF program | 00:08:15 How appropriations and SRF funding are decided | 00:09:51 Budget cuts proposed by the House |00:11:10 Senate supports level SRF funding |00:11:54 Final funding outcome still uncertain |00:12:00 Housekeeping and industry updates |00:12:20 Resources:  Register for StormCon and use code WWD15 to get 15% off your attendee pass. WWD YouTube WaterWorld subscriptions About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, stormwater and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.    

  24. 142

    Small systems, big challenges: What’s ahead for water utilities

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, Bob Crossen speaks with Elora Arnette, associate director of Water Finance Assistance, about the multifaceted challenges facing small water utilities in 2025. They explore workforce shortages, including the growing number of soon-to-retire operators and the difficulty in replacing them, particularly in rural communities. Arnette discusses how many small utilities rely on multitalented local staff and even second-career workers, but stresses that this model is not sustainable long-term. The conversation also covers funding cuts to state revolving funds, the growing threat of extreme weather events, and the resource limitations that prevent proactive planning. Arnette highlights available support options, such as discounted training and emergency planning services, and calls for strategic rate reviews to maintain system viability. Show Notes:     EPA announces $49 million to aid rural, small, and tribal communities with wastewater challenges How resilience and rate-setting can improve Wastewater's D+ ASCE grade How value engineering is helping small systems secure big dollars Timestamps: Introduction to small system workforce issues | 0:00 Guest Elora Arnette joins the discussion | 1:13 Expected wave of workforce retirements | 2:20 Small systems rely on multi-role community hires | 3:31 Recruiting passionate locals is key but unsustainable | 4:00 Older workers entering industry as second career | 4:45 Families encouraging next generation into water careers | 6:38 Regulatory uncertainty creates operational whiplash | 7:10 Small systems can’t pivot like larger ones | 8:27 SRF budget cuts hurt small systems most | 9:07 Lack of rate revenue complicates project funding | 10:17 Extreme weather overwhelms small system preparedness | 12:06 Required planning exists but is often unused | 13:32 Northern systems more equipped for typical local events | 14:44 Lack of backup infrastructure hampers storm resilience | 15:24 Consistent theme: lack of resources everywhere | 16:07 Free and discounted support programs are available | 17:06 Rate reviews crucial for long-term viability | 18:25 Closing thoughts and future conversations | 19:28 Housekeeping and announcements for listeners | 20:00   Resources:  Use code WWD15 to get 15% off your attendee pass when you register at StormCon.com. Wastewater Digest YouTube channel WaterWorld Top Project nominations  About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.     Editor's Note: The episode summary and timestamps were written with the assistance of generative AI.

  25. 141

    Cyber resilience and investment strategy in the water sector

    In this sponsored episode of Talking Under Water, Co-host Bob Crossen spoke with Ian Bramson, vice president of industrial cybersecurity for Black & Veatch about how water utilities can best prepare their cybersecurity efforts and investments. Bramson touches on Black & Veatch’s 2025 Water Report, which found that 95% of utilities now prioritize cybersecurity investment, a growing number. Throughout the interview, Bramson explains what to learn from previous cyberattacks on water systems, why these systems are vulnerable, and what kind of protections exist for utilities of all sizes.   Show Notes:     Why OT security is critical to defending against cyber threats Black & Veatch 2025 Water Report: Navigating regulatory uncertainty and cybersecurity threats  Smart stormwater management programs rely on IoT technology Timestamps: Episode intro | 0:00  Host introduces episode and explains how cyberattacks on water utilities are rising fast.  Utility cybersecurity investments are growing | 1:10  95% of utilities now prioritize cybersecurity   Why cybersecurity focus is increasing | 2:30  Attack frequency, sophistication, and regulations are converging.  From theory to real threat | 03:54   Cyber risks now feel urgent and tangible.  Why utilities are vulnerable | 04:27   Motive and opportunity have both increased significantly.  Common cyber threats | 06:11   Ransomware, malware, and internal errors are rising.  Internal exposure and USB threats | 08:30   Most attacks stem from user behavior.  Smart tech and cloud challenges | 09:39   Cloud visibility helps, but control adds risk.  Hybrid cloud in operations | 11:03  OT and IT integration brings complexity.  Major challenges for utilities | 12:52   Training, budget, and expertise shortages hinder progress.   Bridging the cybersecurity gap | 14:45   Utilities struggle between priorities and capabilities.    Start with the basics | 15:39   Asset inventory is the first critical step.   Budgeting and investment strategy | 16:57  Risk-based prioritization is key to progress. Cybersecurity as part of CapEx | 17:49   Build-in is cheaper than bolt-on.  Creating a cybersecurity culture | 20:06  Start early, especially at small utilities.  Cybersecurity as public safety | 21:41   Protecting infrastructure equals protecting people.  Futureproofing with AI awareness | 22:29   AI is here, ready or not.  AI is a new dependency | 24:32  Utilities must manage unseen AI risks.  Digital transformation needs security | 25:56   Fast progress requires strong cybersecurity foundations.  Cybersecurity as car safety analgogy | 26:31   Comparing cybersecurity to the brakes, mirrors, and seatbelt in a car. Built-in beats bolt-on | 27:33   Retrofit cybersecurity is costly and risky.   Closing thoughts & key takeaway | 28:38   Cybersecurity is no longer optional—it's essential.  Housekeeping- 29:20   Check out features on AI and CSO monitoring. Outro | 30:38      Resources:  Use code WWD15 to get 15% off your attendee pass when you register at StormCon.com.  Wastewater Digest YouTube channel  WaterWorld July/August Issue  Stormwater Solutions July/August Issue     About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.             

  26. 140

    Recent floods, PFAS settlement payouts & Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, we discuss industry news, including the  recent floods in Texas, North Carolina and New Mexico, President Trump’s spending and tax bill, known as the Big Beautiful Bill and PFAS settlement payouts.    Show Notes:     What to know about the Texas and North Carolina floods [USA Today] Who's to blame for Texas flooding tragedy? There is a lot of finger pointing. [The Washington Post] Chantal floods North Carolina, now moving into Mid-Atlantic [NBC News] 3 dead after historic flash flooding hits New Mexico town ravaged by wildfires [Raleigh News & Observer] 6 lives lost to Chantal in central NC. Here’s what we know about them. Every Mention of ‘water’ in Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill  More than $900 million awarded to clients from PFAS water contamination settlement Timestamps:    Episode intro | 0:47 Hosts introduce themselves and today's main topics. Texas flooding overview | 01:18  Co-host Katie Johns covers devastating flash floods across multiple states. Camp Mystic tragedy | 01:45 Flooding near Guadalupe River causes more than 100 deaths, including campers and counselors from Camp Mystic. Flood volume perspective | 02:36 Historical flood context | 03:23  Guadalupe River has flooded over a dozen times since 1978. North Carolina flooding | 03:35 Tropical Storm Chantal drops two months' worth of rain in some areas. New Mexico flooding | 04:26 Monsoons over wildfire burn scars cause deadly flash floods. Big, Beautiful Bill | 05:32 Co-host Mandy Crispin discusses Trump's new spending and tax bill. Water industry funding | 06:04 Details on source water and watershed funding. Reclamation project funds | 07:11 $1B for expanding water storage and conveyance systems. Indirect industry impacts | 07:44 Cuts to green energy; no water infrastructure funds. PFAS settlement |  08:31 Co-host Bob Crossen covers 3M, DuPont PFAS legal settlement funds. Future PFAS claims | 09:54  Legal options remain for more water/wastewater systems. Housekeeping | 10:10 Call for nominations for Wastewater Digest’s Top Project awards; WaterWorld July/August issue available in print and online' StormCon 2025 promo and exclusive code * Timestamps were written with the assistance of artificial intelligence. Resources:  WWD Top Projects  WaterWorld July/August Issue  Use code WWD15 to get 15% off your StormCon attendee pass when you register at StormCon.com.      About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.          

  27. 139

    Talking Under Water: Electricity-based water purification

    In 2025, a significant portion of the global population faces water scarcity. The UN World Water Development Report in 2024 estimated that 2.2 billion people lack access to safe drinking water. How does the water industry not only address this challenge, but how does it do so without affecting future generations, and what is the future of the water energy nexus? Show Notes: Consumer Electronics Show (CES) 2025 Best Innovation in Sustainability & Energy/Power Award VVater Time Stamps: Intro and summary | 00:00 How many people are without safe drinking water | 0:25 Gasts's Background | 1:48 What is the Faraday Reactor? How does it work? | 2:40 How are you scaling to meet the needs of industrial manufacturing and is it scalable to drinking water treatment plants? | 5:14 Does this work on PFAS? | 8:56  How is VVater positioned to compete with long established companies? | 9:46 What partnerships can be fostered between the water and energy sectors | 12:53 Resources:  SWS Top Projects Nominations  WaterWorld Top Projects Nominations  Wastewater Digest Top Projects Nominations About the Podcast Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  28. 138

    Insights & Trends from ACE 2025

    Bob Crossen, vice president of content strategy for water and energy, recaps the American Water Works Associations' ACE show, which took place from June 8-11, 2025, in Denver, Colorado. Crossen was joined at the show by WaterWorld editor-in-chief Mandy Crispin and Water Group associate editor Alex Cossin, so he shares insights the three of them gained from the show. First, Crossen discusses new products that Mueller and Neptune showcased then moves on to two interviews. The first is with AWWA CEO David LaFrance. LaFrance discussed funding, financing, rates, and public communications. The second is with Gigi Karmous-Edwards who spoke about the different kinds of artificial intelligence, and some  innovative uses for generative AI in the water sector.  Show Notes: PFAS treatment and litigation strategies for water systems Mueller teases hydrant retrofit kits at AWWA ACE25 Neptune Technology Group highlights newest meter and cellular endpoint offerings Deconstructing the conundrum of rising rates and water affordability Time Stamps: Introduction & summary | 0:11  Mueller teases new product | 0:56 Neptune showcasese new products | 1:24 Article read: PFAS treatment & litigation strategies for water systems | 2:18 Interview with David LaFrance begins | 4:42 Top challenges for water industry | 5:10 Rate-setting tools and recommendations | 5:59  Pressure on improving water quality | 8:15 Factoring in communication with the public | 9:05 Water 2050 | 11:12 Interview with David LaFrance ends | 12:15 Interview with Gigi Karmous-Edwards begins | 12:22 Breaking down what AI means | 13:06 Karmous- Edward's WRF AI project | 14:11 Where is AI falling short? | 15:07 Differences between Chatbots, AI and machine learning | 16:47 What does the future hold for these technologies in water? | 17:53 Interview with Gigi Karmous-Edwards ends | 22: 55 Housekeeping | 23:18 Resources:  SWS Top Projects Nominations WaterWorld Top Projects Nominations Wastewater Digest Top Projects Nominations    About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.    

  29. 137

    Reflecting on a water legacy: Dean Amhaus announces retirement

    For 15 years, Dean Amhaus has led The Water Council in Milwaukee as CEO and president, but just earlier this year he announced his retirement. In this episode, co-Host Bob Crossen speaks with Amhaus about his career, how far the water industry has come, and where it's headed. Over his tenure, Amhaus has witnessed trends and shifts in businesses, and advancements in technology while helping The Water Council become a destination for water technology innovators and businesses seeking to make meaningful connections for their solutions.  Show Notes:  Trump administration breaks silence on PFAS  EPA Announces It Will Keep Maximum Contaminant Levels for PFOA, PFOS  Toxic Release Inventory  [AWWA] Hazard Index for PFAS [Statement June 5, 2024]  Timestamps:    Intro and summary | 00:00 Retirement congratulations and plans | 1:05 Future work developments post-retirement | 2:40 How small business face similar problems to small utilities | 4:43 The importance of technical and financial assistance for small systems | 6:17 How microplastics and PFAS have taken over headlines | 7:35 How water scarcity isn't always about limited access to water supply | 10:10 Surprises in the business in the past 15 years | 12:36 How corporations are recognizing water's criticality to their businesses | 14:23 The intersection of economic growth and water infrastructure needs | 17:20 Most memorable moments in 15 years with The Water Council | 19:01 The Water Council pioneered collaborative water hubs | 22:40 Why community and culture are vital to business success | 25:16 Words for Dean's successor as CEO | 26:52 Resources:  SWS Top Projects Nominations  WaterWorld Top Projects Nominations  Wastewater Digest Top Projects Nominations    About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  30. 136

    EPA shakes up PFAS regulations

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts discuss recent industry news, including President Trump’s proposed fiscal year 2026 budget, which amounts to $4.2 billion in a total funding reduction across the entire agency in 2026 compared to 2025 for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Additionally, the hosts discuss recent U.S. Geological Survey grants to 12 state agencies to support landslide risk reduction and hazard mitigation projects; and the EPA’s latest strategy update on addressing PFAS chemicals. Finally, the hosts share news on the EPA extending compliance deadlines for PFOA and PFOS and rescinding the Hazard Index.  Show Notes:   White House proposes $2.4B in SRF cuts for 2026  California moves forward with Right to Clean Water Act bill  USGS awards $1 Million in grants for landslide risk reduction projects  Trump administration breaks silence on PFAS  How PFAS regulations have changed in the Trump administration, so far  EPA extends compliance deadlines for PFOA and PFOS, rescinds Hazard Index  EPA Announces It Will Keep Maximum Contaminant Levels for PFOA, PFOS Toxic Release Inventory [AWWA] Hazard Index for PFAS [Statement June 5, 2024] Timestamps:    Host introduction & summary | 0:48  White House proposes $2.4B cut to water SRF programs | 1:26 USGS awards $1 million for landslide risk reduction | 5:01 California committee passes Right to Clean Water Act | 5:40 A concentrated month for PFAS regulatory changes | 6:35 Housekeeping — nominate a top project | 15:45 Resources:  SWS Top Projects Nominations  WaterWorld Top Projects Nominations  Wastewater Digest Top Projects Nominations About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.           

  31. 135

    Cyber threats in our water supply: What utilities need to know

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, Co-host Mandy Crispin speaks with Frederick Johnson, cybersecurity practice lead at Stantec. Johnson helps utilities, government agencies, and private sector clients prepare for technological challenges. The cyber-attack on Wichita, Kansas, was about a year ago, and the cybersecurity issue in Arkansas City, Kansas, was about six months ago. Considering these events, the interview sheds light on the greatest threats to cybersecurity right now, any potential changes in regulation, and how utilities can address cybersecurity.   Show Notes:    Stantec blog: Cybersecurity defense in the water industry: 3 steps utilities can take now  Arkansas City water treatment facility faces cybersecurity incident  Talking Under Water Episode Preview  Rockwell Automation talks cybersecurity with Editor in Chief Mandy Crispin  Timestamps:    Introduction | 0:00 The greatest threat to cybersecurity in the water sector | 1:16 Why water systems are targets for cyberthreats | 3:07 An example of a common cybersecurity attack tactic | 4:40 What to expect from an on-site cybersecurity risk assessment | 7:33 What lessons can be learned from notable water system cyberattacks? | 11:06 What percentage of utilities are prepared to address cyberattacks? | 13:07 An overview of introduced cybersecurity bills for U.S. water systems | 14:26 Housekeeping | 17:39 Resources:  WWD webinar: Liquid stream vs. solids handling: Maximizing treatment and resource recovery  SWS webinar: Blue Green Infrastructure – Learning from Successful Case Studies  WaterWorld Top Projects submissions  About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.     

  32. 134

    How PFAS regulations could change under President Trump

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts discuss recent industry news, including construction and discharge updates at the international boundary; the completion of the United States Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) work in North Carolina following Hurricane Helene, the EPA announcing a public hearing for an updated draft of the MS4 general permit in Massachusetts, what to expect for PFAS regulations under the new administration; and a ban on fluoride in drinking water.    Show Notes:    Mexico temporarily discharges wastewater into Tijuana River USIBWC investigates transboundary wastewater flow into U.S. EPA completes Hurricane Helene response in North Carolina EPA announces public hearing for updated draft of MS4 general permit in Massachusetts How PFAS regulations have changed in the Trump administration, so far The Guardian:Trump officials quietly move to reverse bans on toxic ‘forever chemicals’ What do the new PFAS MCLs mean for the water industry? Utah becomes first U.S. state to ban fluoride in drinking water EPA to review scientific information on fluoride in drinking water Timestamps:    Cold open | 0:00 Host introduction and episode summary | 0:20 Updates on the International Boundary and Water Commission discharges and construction | 1:05 U.S. EPA copmletes its FEMA support work for Hurricane Helene recovery effort | 4:40 How PFAS regulations could change during President Trump's term | 6:59 Housekeeping | 14:36 Resources:    Wastewater Digest YouTube SWS webinar: Commercial Industrial and Institutional (CII) NPDES Permit in two watersheds in the Los Angeles area   About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  33. 133

    A Splash of Reality: Breaking down the ASCE 2025 Infrastructure Report Card

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts dive into the results from the American Society of Civil Engineers 2025 Infrastructure Report Card. Overall, the country received a “C,” which is its highest grade ever. The hosts zoom in on the drinking water, stormwater and wastewater grades, all of which received the same grades as 2021, and discuss the overlap in goals from ASCE on raising the grades in the future, including asset management, resiliency and funding.   Show Notes:    Drinking water earns "C-" on ASCE 2025 Infrastructure Report Card Wastewater earns "D+" on ASCE 2025 Infrastructure Report Card Stormwater earns 'D' on ASCE 2025 Infrastructure Report Card Water industry reacts to ASCE's 2025 Infrastructure Report Card Timestamps:    Introduction and summary | 0:50 Wastewater earns a D+ | 1:26 Stormwater earns a D | 4:12 Drinking water earnes a C- | 7:09 Raising the grade with better asset management | 9:49 How to improve resilience for water infrastructure improvements | 12:07 ASCE recommends right-sizing ratepayer funding | 14:23 Housekeeping | 17:10 Resources:   WaterWorld March/April issue  StormCon 2025 About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.       

  34. 132

    Bridging policy and progress in the water sector

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, Karen Dettmer, Americas director of Water Resources for Ramboll, discusses water industry trends, her former work with both the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the public sector in Milwaukee, where she was the first woman public works commissioner. Dettmer also discusses her work with policy, including the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law.  Show Notes: Dropping By #87: What the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Means for the Water Industry | Part 1 Dropping By #88: What the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Means for the Water Industry | Part 2   Resources: WaterWorld poll for President Trump's performance Wastewater Digest poll for President Trump's performance SWS March 27th webinar   About the Podcast     Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  35. 131

    The Water Chronicles: A Journey to Understand the World’s Water Disparities

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, Co-host Mandy Crispin chats with Kaitlin Spiridellis, a Vanderbilt University Michael B. Keegan traveling fellow. Spiridellis has worked for over three years within Vanderbilt’s Drinking Water Justice Lab and focuses on the disparities in how people experience drinking water in different communities.  In the summer of 2024, she began touring various continents to gain a better understanding of the disparities in how people experience drinking water. In this episode, Crispin and Spiridellis start by discussing her trip to Latin America, and Spiridellis will be writing articles for WaterWorld on her experiences, called World of Water. Show Notes:  World of Water Timestamps:  Introduction & episode summary | 0:09 What motivated Kaitlin to conduct her globetrotting water study? | 0:49 The experience of locals in Mexico City | 2:25 How stormwater capture for drinking water supply becomes a critical resource | 4:33 Exploring how virtual water impacts water management in Argentina | 7:08 Chile's approach to One Water | 10:24 Governance barriers between rural and urban areas | 13:26 The cultural and gender burdens surrounding water supply and management | 17:12 Summarizing the European leg of Kaitlin's World of Water trip | 20:28 Housekeeping | 21:57  Resources:  Wastewater Digest Emerging Leaders Nomination Form   WaterWorld Emerging Leaders Nomination Form   StormCon   About the Podcast     Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.      

  36. 130

    President Trump’s first month, EPA Office of Water assistant administrator nomination & the California wildfires

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts summarize several actions of President Trump during his first month after reassuming the presidency and what those might mean for the industry, and they touch on the nomination of Jessica Kramer to the office of water at EPA as its assistant administrator. Finally, the episode ends with an update on the California Wildfires.  Show Notes:  EPA places DEI and Environmental Justice employees on administrative leave Jessica Kramer nominated as EPA’s Assistant Administrator for Water EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin announces "Powering the Great American Comeback" initiative EPA renames its Gulf Division   Timestamps:    Host intro & episode summary | 0:09 News round-up begins; President Trump's administration one month in | 0:50 Jessica Kramer nominated to lead EPA Office of Water | 7:15 California wildfires recap | 10:58 Housekeeping | 18:38 Resources:  Nominate a Wastewater Digest Emerging leader  Nominate a WaterWorld Emerging Leader  Nominate a Stormwater Solutions Emerging Leader  About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.    

  37. 129

    U.S. EPA releases PFAS risk assessment: Now what?

    In April of 2022, Maine banned land application of biosolids due to concerns of PFAS. It has become a point of contention in the state, causing wastewater systems to scramble for alternatives with much of it going over the border to Canadian landfills as Maine landfills refuse to accept the waste or run into capacity issues.  Nearly two years later, U.S. EPA released a long-awaited risk assessment of two PFAS chemicals — PFOA and PFOS — in sewage sludge and land-applied biosolids on January 14, 2025. While this assessment is not a regulation, it suggests a degree of risk that could one day include a regulation.   So what do wastewater leaders need to do now and what does this assessment mean for them? Endeavor Business Media Water Group Editor Alex Cossin caught up with Kyle Thompson, the PFAS national practice lead for Carollo Engineers, to get the details.  Show Notes:    Watch: EPA draft sludge risk assessment for PFAS: What it means for utilities  Read: Five takeaways from the EPA's draft sewage sludge risk assessment for PFOA and PFOS  Timestamps:    Introduction and episode summary | 00:09 Interview begins | 1:24 Findings and takeaways from the PFAS sewage sludge risk assessment | 1:37 How can utilities use this information to plan around PFAS? | 5:54 What are the best treatment options for PFAS in sludge and biosolids? | 10:19 What's the best way to communicate with customers on this? | 13:39 Housekeeping | 17:38 Resources:  Nominate a Wastewater Digest Emerging leader  Nominate a WaterWorld Emerging Leader  Nominate a Stormwater Solutions Emerging Leader  About the Podcast  Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.       

  38. 128

    California wildfires, PFAS risk assessment & EPA administrator hearing

    In this episode of Talking Under Water the hosts discuss recent industry news including the nomination hearing for Lee Zeldin, whom President Trump is seeking to lead the U.S. EPA; the California wildfires, including the Palisades and Eaton fires along with others that began between January 22 and January 23; and the release of EPA’s risk assessment of PFAS in sewage sludge. This draft risk assessment, which is now available for public comment, hones in specifically on two PFAS chemicals: Perfluorooctanoic Acid (PFOA) and Perfluorooctane Sulfonic Acid (PFOS). Show Notes: PFAS & funding dominate EPA admin nomination hearing How Southern California transformed into a ‘tinderbox’ Mike McNutt of Las Virgenes Municipal Water District discusses California wildfires From ABC 7 Eye Witness News: With rain on the way, crews race to protect Eaton Fire areas from threat of mudslides From The Guardian: These are the hazards Californians face after fires – and what homeowners can do to protect themselves Fire recovery efforts from the office of California Gov. Gavin Newsom Five takeaways from the EPA's draft sewage sludge risk assessment for PFOA and PFOS White House clarifies funding freeze Timestamps:  Introduction and summary | 1:03 EPA Administrator Nominee Led Zeldin's career and political history | 2:40 Key takeaways from Lee Zeldin's EPA nomination hearing | 4:56 Impact of California wildfires on drinking water systems | 6:33 California wildfire recovery efforts | 8:57 U.S. EPA releases risk assessment for PFOA and PFOS in sewage sludge | 12:55 Housekeeping | 16:14 Resources: WWD YouTube WaterWorld Videos StormCon Registration Stormwater Solutions videos About the podcast Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  39. 127

    Water Reuse Strategies for U.S. Cities

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, Co-host Bob Crossen talks with John Newsome, administrator for the Division of Water for the City of Columbus, Ohio and president of the newly founded Ohio WateReuse Association Chapter, discuss all things related to water reuse.  Various states, including California, Texas, Florida and Arizona are all in various stages of water reuse regulatory developments, and here, Newsome discusses how Ohio has joined the pack. Newsome touches on what drove this desire, how water reuse fits into coordinating with industrial users and partners, and where the state is drawing inspiration from in developing the water future for Ohio. Show Notes: The Water Reuse Revolution Water Reuse: A Short Guide Key takeaways from U.S. EPA's Potable Reuse and PFAS Q&A document Timestamps: Intro | 0:09 Interview begins | 1:14 How conversations on water reuse look | 1:32 What are you relationships with industrial partners right now? | 3:34 Building upon existing relationships for future success | 6:05 Municipal versus on-site industrial reuse | 8:07 What does the Ohio wate reuse vision look like? | 9:31 Taking inspiration from other state water reuse frameworks | 12:10 Managing and educating stakeholders | 13:40 Water reuse technology is tested and proven | 14:5 WateReuse Indsustrial Conference in Columbus, OH | 15:17 Housekeeping | 16:38 Resources: Five takeaways from the EPA's draft sewage sludge risk assessment for PFOA and PFOS StormCon Registration Infrastructure Technology Podcast Mike McNutt of Las Virgenes Municipal Water District discusses California wildfires About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.    

  40. 126

    Where is the water industry heading in 2025?

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts discuss the state of the industry surveys from each water brand — Stormwater Solutions, Wastewater Digest and WaterWorld — with some data points. The hosts provide some analysis of the results, including what some of the biggest challenges and trends are moving into 2025.   Show Notes:    The Pulse of Water: State of the Industry Insights with Bentley  GHD study examines path to equitable infrastructure 2024 State of the One Water Industry Timestamps:    Cold open | 0:00 Episode summary | 0:56 WaterWorld State of the Drinking Water Industry Report | 2:07 Wastewater Digest State of the Wastewater Industry Report | 8:11 Stormwater Solutions State of the Stormwater Industry Report | 13:44 Housekeeping | 17:55  Resources:  WWD November/December Digital Edition  StormCon Registration  About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.       

  41. 125

    The Pulse of Water: State of the Industry Insights with Bentley

    In this episode, Co-host Bob Crossen talks with Gregg Herrin, the vice president of Water in Bentley Systems’ Industry Solutions Group. The two dive into the results from the state of the industry surveys that  WaterWorld, Wastewater Digest and Stormwater Solutions conducted. These surveys occur each year and provide a glimpse at the water market – age and experience of water professionals, how budgets are shifting and where companies and utilities are spending their money.  Herrin shares his perspective of these trends and market forces and how companies like Bentley Systems are trying to solve them.  Show Notes:  2024 State of the Industry eHandbook  Smart Water insights with Bentley Systems  Building Climate-Resilient Cities Through Smart Stormwater and Flood Management   Timestamps:  Introduction and episode summary | 0:08 Interview begins | 1:33 Age of respondents — 43% are 60 years old and older | 2:31 Theories on career length, age and experience | 4:25 Bridging the experience gap with technological advancement | 6:15 10% of respondents have 10 years or less experience at 60 years old or older | 10:02 13% of small and very small utilities includes workers with 10 years or less experience | 12:42 Bigger projects under more and more scrutiny | 13:41 Streamlining projects and construction elements in parallel | 15:55 How can utilities navigate rising construction costs with digital technologies? | 19:46 Digital twins lead to more timely project delivery | 23:55 How digital models improve transparency and transfer of knowledge | 28:49 Why planning for 30 years down the line isn't a mistake | 32:15 Building a solid foundation of digital tools and skills | 37:33 Housekeeping | 39:14  Resources:   Water eHandbooks  WaterWorld November/December Digital Issue   Wastewater Digest November/December Digital Issue  Stormwater Solutions November/December Digital Issue    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.           Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.            

  42. 124

    Why is the membrane filter technique so popular for microbiological testing of water?

    In this sponsored episode of Talking Under Water, Co-host Mandy Crispin speaks with Patty Lee, global product manager for microbiology at Cytiva, about the importance of water quality. Lee talks about membrane filter technique, microbiological testing and the dangers of water born pathogens.  Show Notes Visit Cytiva's website Second U.S. EPA mobile water laboratory deployed to North Carolina following Hurricane Helene impacts Ensuring trust through better taste 7 key takeaways from AWWA’s Public Perceptions of Tap Water survey Timestamps Introduction and episode summary | 0:00 Interview begins | 1:44 What is Cytiva? | 1:59 The sources of microbial contamination in water | 3:11 Why contamination presents a problem for water sources | 4:09 Microbial testing methods for monitoring environmental waters | 5:20 Why membrane filters are so popular for microbial testing and monitoring | 6:32 How to choose the bets membrane for the MF technique | 8:40 Tips for increasing lab efficiency with microbiology testing | 11:12 Breaking down pathogenic monitoring testing | 13:34 Where to learn more information about lab testing | 15:58 Housekeeping | 16:34 Resources WaterWorld Digital Edition  SWS Digital Edition  WWD YouTube Channel  About the Podcast       Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.       Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  43. 123

    Exploring the intersection of data, communications & power infrastructure, Part II

    In this week’s episode, we are sharing part two of the panel between Endeavor Business Media’s Infrastructure and Energy Groups. Editors from Data Center Frontier, Cabling Installation & Maintenance, ISE;  Lightwave; and Microgrid Knowledge, gathered to discuss the latest trends and funding impacts in their sectors. The first half of this panel was published in the November 8 episode of Talking Under Water.  Show Notes:   Exploring the intersection of data, communications & power infrastructure, Part I  Cabling Installation & Maintenance  ISE | ICT Solutions & Education  Lightwave and Broadband Pulse  Microgrid Knowledge  Resources:  WWD YouTubeChannel  WaterWorld Top Projects Nominations  StormCon 2025  About the Podcast      Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WaterWorld and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.         Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected]  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  44. 122

    Smart Water Insights with Bentley Systems

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, Co-host Bob Crossen speaks with Cecilia Correia, senior water solutions manager for Bentley Systems, about smart water. Correia speaks on how smart systems help us manage water, where we’re going with it and how we got here in the first place.  Show Notes:  Building Climate-Resilient Cities Through Smart Stormwater and Flood Management    Three ways to assess your smart utility readiness  Green infrastructure solutions for urban stormwater management  New survey shows mixed feeling about future needs of America’s infrastructure  Resources:  WaterWorld Digital Edition  SWS Digital Edition  WWD YouTube Channel  About the Podcast      Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WaterWorld and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.         Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected]  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

  45. 121

    Exploring the intersection of data, communications & power infrastructure, Part I

    In this week's episode of Talking Under Water, we are sharing part one of a panel featuring infrastructure and energy editorial leads at Endeavor Business Media. This panel, EBM's Data Center, Communications, and Power Infrastructure Confluence Forum, is a shared discussion on important topics, such as funding and regulations, and how those are affecting various infrastructure brands. The brands that participated in this panel include: Data Center Frontier, Cabling Installation & Maintenance, ISE, Lightwave and Microgrid Knowledge. We will share the second half of this panel soon, with even more panels on the way. The Water Group, of which this podcast is a part, will be included in an upcoming panel, so stay tuned.  Show Notes:  Cabling Installation & Maintenance ISE | ICT Solutions & Education Lightwave and Broadband Pulse Microgrid Knowledge Timestamps:  Intro | 0:00 Data Center Frontier segment begins | 2:04 How ChatGPT changed the data center landscape | 2:33 Power and transmission needed for data processing | 4:18 Fusion and nuclear energy development | 7:09 Semiconductor needs for U.S. Data Center growth | 10:11 Public-private partnerships to lower carbon footprints | 13:06 Broadband Equity Access and Deployment program | 15:05 How BEAD will open doors for small and independent business | 18:20 How BEADS funds are distributed for projects | 20:18  What is BABA for digital infrastructure | 21:40 How BABA has impacted the digital infrastructure market | 24:29 How big tech has influenced the telecomm industry | 27:18 The winds of generative AI makes landfall | 29:25 How much connectivity do consumers want and how much data will they share? | 30:47 The culture of streaming and gaming is changing bandwith needs | 32:07 Cloud-computing isn't the future, it is now | 33:45 Housekeeping | 33:45 Resources: WWD YouTubeChannel WaterWorld Top Projects Nominations StormCon Call for Papers About the Podcast     Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WaterWorld and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.     Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected]  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media. 

  46. 120

    What does a day without water look like in 2024?

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, we are continuing our annual tradition started last year of asking our colleagues within Endeavor Business Media about the importance of water for their industries and what a day without water would look like in their market. This year, we are featuring the Robert Schoenberger Manufacturing group editorial director; Matthew Vincent, editor-in-chief of Data Center Fronteer; Christina Wichmann, Medical Laboratory Observer editor-in-chief; and Steve Spaulding, Contractor Magazine editor-in-chief. Each recorded a small featurette, and hosts Bob Crossen, Mandy Crispin and Alex Cossin share their takeaways and thoughts about those submissions throughout the episode. Show Notes www.industryweek.com www.datacenterfrontier.com www.mlo-online.com  www.contractormag.com Timestamps Cold open | 0:00 Host introduction and episode summary | 1:19 Water in manufacturing | 2:31 A day without water in data centers | 9:38 Water quality needs in medical labs | 16:25 Reducing days without water with residential plumbing contractors | 21:05 Final water group editor takeaways | 25:00 Housekeeping | 27:44 Resources Talking Under Water WEFTEC 2024 Wrap-up video: https://youtu.be/050cLMx1UmY?si=PXSmfCLgBJZBo2i3 Stormwater Solutions State of the Industry Survey:   https://bit.ly/soti24  About the Podcast     Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WaterWorld and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.     Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected]  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media. 

  47. 119

    Finding Adaptive Solutions with VertiGIS

    Steve Grise is the GM of utilities for North America at VertiGIS. In this episode, Grise explains how VertiGIS aims to help organizations to manage the data they need. In addition to traditional mapping and work management support, there are many other challenges such as the retiring workforce, regulatory pressures, and aging infrastructure. Grise talks about helping organizations tackle these challenges head-on, offering adaptive solutions that future-proof their operations from a broader perspective.    Show Notes:  Leveraging data to optimize shipping through the Panama Canal while protecting local water supply  Digital transformation roadmap for drinking water systems  Streamline Your Water Utility Network Management Using VertiGIS Networks | WaterWorld    Timestamps:  0:00 | Introduction  2:04 | Interview begins  2:11 | VertiGIS technologies making a difference  6:00| Efficiency of digital solutions  8:24 | Biggest challenges facing the water market  10:52 | How to address those challenges  11:39 | Addressing aging workforce and aging infrastructure  18:59 | Foreseeable trends in water management technology  23:50 | How VertiGIS is positioned to address water market trends  25:31 | Advice for organizations who are hesitant to adopt new technology  31:47 | Housekeeping       Resources:  WWD State of the Industry Survey: https://bit.ly/wastewater24  Stormwater Solutions State of the Industry Survey:   https://bit.ly/soti24  WaterWorld State of the Industry Survey:  https://bit.ly/waterworld24    About the Podcast        Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WaterWorld and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.        Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected]  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.      

  48. 118

    WEFTEC 2024 Wrap-up

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Mandy Crispin, Alex Cossin and Bob Crossen discuss their experience at WEFTEC and their main takeaways from the show. Crossen talks about his conversations surrounding destruction and disposal of PFAS and the concerns water professionals have about the emissions from destruction technologies. Crispin shares some insights from a conversation she had with a utility about its challenges relating to PFAS and Lead and Copper Rule compliance. And Cossin shares his thoughts about his first ever WEFTEC including some of the new products that he saw on the showfloor. Finally, the hosts answer questions submitted by listeners at the show.   Show Notes:     WEFTEC 2024 kicks off with opening general session  U.S. EPA issues final ruling requiring replacement of lead pipes within 10 years, announces funding  PFAS Across the Water Cycle in 2024  This PFAS removal system can use GAC or IX  Oldcastle Infrastructure joins public-private partnership to solve water scarcity    Resources:   Subscribe to WWD   SWS State of the Industry Survey   WaterWorld Top Projects Nominations      About the Podcast     Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WaterWorld and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.      Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected]  engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commnting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.      

  49. 117

    Clean Water Act Violations & Integrated Water Resources partnership

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts discuss a report of alleged Clean Water Act violations in Idaho, a partnership between the Bureau of Reclamation and other federal agencies to address water management challenges, and infrastructure funding news.    Show Notes:    Idaho wastewater treatment plant report shows 458 Clean Water Act violations in 2023  Submitting a letter of interest for a WIFIA loan  Bureau of Reclamation joins partnership to address water management challenges        Timestamps:    0:0 | Cold open  0:53 | Host introduction and episode summary  1:28 | 458 Clean Water Act violations in Idaho  3:05 | Bureau of Reclamation joins water management group  4:11 | $7.5 billion in WIFIA funding available  7:17 | Housekeeping       Resources:  Subscribe to WWD  SWS State of the Industry Survey  WaterWorld Top Projects Nominations     About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.        Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected]  engaging with them on X @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.     

  50. 116

    How will Metering as a Service Work for the Water Industry?

    In this episode of Talking Under Water, Co-host Bob Crossen is joined by Bruce Bharat, country manager and vice president of North America for Kamstrup, and Jason Hewitt, managing partner of Infrastructure for Sustainability Partners. Crossen spoke with them about metering as a service, how their business model works, the safeguards in place for utilities, and the long-term goals they have in mind.    Show Notes:    St. Lucie, Florida West Services District deploys Kamstrup meters  Navigating the digital landscape toward a water secure future      Timestamps:    Intro | 0.08  Interview begins | 1:29  Defining metering as a service | 2:05  Breaking down the relationship in Maas | 4:27  Who owns the meters in MaaS contract? | 9:32  Maintenance and timelines and servicing speed | 13:40  Utilities can still work on the meters | 17:07  Upgrading Maas meters and price increases | 19:41  What happens if utility goes bankrupt? | 25:06  Housekeeping | 30:01      About the Podcast    Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.        Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected]  engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.        

Type above to search every episode's transcript for a word or phrase. Matches are scoped to this podcast.

Searching…

No matches for "" in this podcast's transcripts.

Showing of matches

No topics indexed yet for this podcast.

Loading reviews...

ABOUT THIS SHOW

Talking Under Water is a One Water podcast for the water industry. Editors from Endeavor’s Water Group highlight news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts. Topics covered include water and wastewater treatment, stormwater and erosion control, diversity, regulations/legislation, flooding, circular water economy, water scarcity, small systems, emerging contaminants, smart water and more.

HOSTED BY

Endeavor Business Media

CATEGORIES

URL copied to clipboard!