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Tax Pro Nation
by Imelda Ledesma & Andy Frye, EA | Pronto Tax School
Tax Pro Nation is the show for independent tax professionals. Whether you're thinking about getting into the tax business to make extra money part-time or you're a seasoned tax entrepreneur dreaming of creating the next nationwide tax franchise — or like most of our listeners, you're somewhere in between — welcome home.
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IRS Tax Forum Spotlight Series Last Episode: Why Attend a Live Event with Andy & Imelda
Andy and Imelda chat about the value of attending live events form both the attendee and vendor perspective, and how to prepare effectively. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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IRS Tax Forum Spotlight Series: Tax Problems with Steven Klitzner
Andy chats with Steven Klitzner, P.A. sharing his background on how he helps people with tax problems. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected] For Steven Klitzner Law Office reach out at https://floridataxsolvers.com/
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IRS Tax Forum Spotlight Series: Billing, Collections and Late Payments with Omyr Man
Andy chats with Omyr Man from Anchor. How they help small business with billing, collections, and late payment. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected] For Anchor reach out at https://www.sayanchor.com/
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IRS Tax Forum Spotlight Series: Isaac Olivera, His Journey as a Young Tax Professional
Andy chats with Isaac Olivera from TB Financial Group from Florida. He shares his story as a young tax professional. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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IRS Tax Forum Spotlight Series: How to Grow your Tax Business with David Steiner
Andy chats with David Steiner from Zebulon Tax Advisory LLC. How to grow your tax business by going to conferences and investing in your business. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected] For Zebulon Tax Advisory LLC reach out at https://www.zebtax.com/
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IRS Tax Forum Spotlight Series: Social Media with Sade Kong
Andy chats with Sade Kong. Why its important to do social media videos For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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IRS Tax Forum Spotlight Series: Protection Plus with Daniel Brineger
Andy chats with Daniel Brineger from Protection Plus. How Protection Plus helps tax professionals with IRS tax letters and why it's important. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected] For Protection Plus reach out to https://taxprotectionplus.com/
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IRS Tax Forum Spotlight Series: Marketing for Tax Pros with Christian Jones
Andy chats with CEO of TaxProMarketer, Chistian Jones, to talk about marketing for tax pros, why it matters, what's working and weather you should be doing more of it. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected] For TaxProMarter reach out to www.taxpromarketer.com
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Schedule E Tax Prep Process Part 7: Setting up a Rental, Depreciation, QBI Aggregation Election and issuing 1099
Andy Frye EA and Daren Gress EA will cover the essentials of setting up a rental property, everything from depreciation and QBI aggregation elections to when and how to issue 1099s. But before they get into all that, they'll kick things off with a quick chat about business structures like LLCs, S Corps, and partnerships, and why payroll and smart expense tracking matter. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule E Tax Prep Process Part 6: Fix & Flip Clients (Schedule E Reporting vs. Schedule C Reporting, etc.)
Andrea MacDonald CPA and Andy Frye will break dwon how to report income for your Fix & Flip clients, and the key difference between Schedule E and Schedule C reporting. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule E Tax Prep Process Part 5: The (Extensive) Role of LLC's in Real Estate Investing
Andrea MacDonald CPA will lead the conversation on why a LLC setup is important for real estate investments, especially when the purchase is made through a non-real estate business. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule E Tax Prep Process Part 4: How to Report Income and Expenses
Daren Gress EA leads the conversation on how to report general expenses on Schedule E, covering key topics like depreciation, repair regulations, and the distinctions between business and residential rental properties. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule E Tax Prep Process Part 3: Out-of-State Rental Property Strategies
Andrea MacDonald CPA will lead the conversation on how to handle out-of-state rental properites on a Schedule E; and you'll get to see the difference between how the real world stacks up and what social media is trying to sell your clients. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule E Tax Prep Process Part 2: Income and Expenses
Andy Frye EA and Daren Gress EA will dive into income and expenses of Schedule E, starting with how to handle a brand new client. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule E Tax Prep Process Part 1: Self Rental Rules When You Have an Entity Bonus, Strategies, and Pitfalls
Andy Frye EA and Daren Gress EA will dive into the trends of Schedule E: self rental rules they will cover entity bonus, strategies and pitfalls. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 11 Final Episode: Continuation from Part 10 When and How to Move Clients off of Sch C
Andy Frye EA and Andrea MacDonald CPA will cover when and how to move your clietns off of Sch C to Scorp. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 10: Converting a Sole Proprietorship (Schedule C) to an LLC or Scorp
Andy Frye EA will discuess the If, When, Why, and How of converting a sole proprietorship (Schedule C) to an LLC or S-corp, including the importance of setting up your client on payroll after the conversion. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 9: Immigration Strategies (e.g. Undocumented Business Owners, ITIN's, etc.)
Andy Frye EA and Daren Gress EA will lead the conversation on Immigration Strategies on a Schedule C. How to handle undocumented business owners. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 8: Damage Control Strategies
Andy Frye EA and Andrea MacDonald CPA will lead the conversation on the exciting world of Damage Control Strategies for Schdeule C; start by letting your client know about the discrepancy you've identified in their prior year return. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 7: Risk Mitigation Strategies
Andy Frye EA and Daren Gress EA discuss the fun times of rsik mitigation strategies related to Schedule C and how to navigate audits. They'll also be comparing the pros and cons of in-peron versus correspondence audits. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 6: QBI Deduction Strategies
Andy Frye EA will dive into the fun and exciting world of QBI deduction strategies, discussing how to help your clients maximize their QBI and save on their taxes. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 5: Health Insurance Strategies
Andy Frye EA and Glen Wielandt Tax Business Coach lead the conversation on Health Insurance Strategies for self-employed clients. Is it a big issue? Are your Schedule C clients even conerned about Health Insurance? For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 4: Retirement Plan Strategies
Andy Frye EA and Daren Gress EA will lead the conversation in Retriement Plan Strategies for Schedule C. Addressing the confusion around setting up retirment plans and clearing up the common misinformation found on social media. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 3: Depreciation Strategies
Andy Frye EA and Andrea MacDonald CPA will dive into the fascinating realm of advanced Schedule C depreciation strategies. They will discuss the varying treatments of depreciation and explain why capital accounts often don't align between the books and the tax return, attributing these descrepancies to how assets are managed. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 2: Niches
Glen Wielandt Tax Business Coach starts off the second episode of Schedule C Prep Process with an open discussion on extensions, price changes, new returns, and the biggest challenges everyone faced this tax season. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Schedule C Tax Prep Process Part 1: Pricing Last Minute Schedule Cs
Andy Frye EA and Andrea MacDonald CPA start off the first episode of Schedule C Prep Process. How to price last minute Schedule Cs when you're closer to the deadline. Should you be aggressive with your prep fees? and what is an aggressive prep fees? For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Step-by-Step S Corp Tax Prep Process Part 7
Andy Frye EA and Daren Gress EA start off the seventh and last episode of Step-by Step S Corp Tax Prep Process with an open discussion on accountable plans and the value that clients get from the service you are provding. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Step-by-Step S Corp Tax Prep Process Part 6
Andy Frye EA and Andrea MacDonald CPA start off the sixth episode of Step-by Step S Corp Tax Prep Process reviewing the issues with business clients taht do not have their accounting complete. What do you do? Do you do their accounting or do you refer tehm to someon else. The harsh reality of cleaning up accounting for your clients. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Step-by-Step S Corp Tax Prep Process Part 5
Andy Frye EA and Glen Wielandt Tax Business Coach start off the fifth episode of Step-by Step S Corp Tax Prep Process with an open discussion on balancing a Balance Sheet for S Corp returns. The difficutlies of a Sch L when all the information is not provided. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Step-by-Step S Corp Tax Prep Process Part 4
Andy Frye EA and Daren Gress EA start off the fourth episode of Step-by Step S Corp Tax Prep Process with an open discussion the importance of keeping a paper trail and breaking down total expenses in S Corp returns. Its a handy practice if your client ever needs to expalin where the totals originated from. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Step-by-Step S Corp Tax Prep Process Part 3
Andy Frye EA and Glen Wielandt Tax Business Coach start off the third episode of Step-by Step S Corp Tax Prep Process with an open discussion with the members how they have helped each other. Sean will share is experience with business clients and what he has learned For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Step-by-Step S Corp Tax Prep Process Part 2
Andy Frye EA and Daren Gress EA start off the second episode of Step-by Step S Corp Tax Prep Process reviewing BOIR, Beneficial Ownership Information Reporting. Since some of our members have reached out that one or two questions are a bit confusing and they are unsure if they should charge for it. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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Step-by-Step S Corp Tax Prep Process Part 1
Andy Frye EA and Andrea MacDonald CPA start off the first episode of Step-by Step S Corp Tax Prep Process reviewing intake and what to expect from your clients to make it easier for you to complete their entity tax return. For more information about the episode visit us at prontotaxschool.com or email us to [email protected]
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From Peru to Profitable Tax Pro with Ernesto Delacruz
Our guest on this episode is Ernesto Delacruz. Join us as he shares his immigrant story of hard work, grit, and building his American Dream in the tax business after coming from Peru 27 years ago. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/30
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Confessions of a Bartending Tax Pro with John Piekarski
Our guest on this episode is John Piekarski. Join us as he shares his Renaissance-man story of starting as a tax professional in Huntington Beach, CA, 33 years ago. He grew his tax business along with all of his clients' businesses, all while traveling the world, doing amazing things, and enjoying his life. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/29
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From Tax Franchisee Candidate to Side Hustling Independent Tax Pro with Camea Franklin, EA
Our guest on this episode is Camea Franklin, EA. Join us as she shares her story from John Hewitt recruiting her to becoming an independent tax professional, all while juggling single motherhood and a full-time job. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/28
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From Picnic Table to Professional Tax Preparer with Karensue Matthews
Our guest on this episode is Karensue Matthews. Join us as she shares her inspiring story of starting her tax and accounting business at a camping ground picnic table in a new state after a new baby and divorce. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/27
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Choosing Between Eviction or Tax Preparation with Terre Crisman
Our guest on this episode is Terre Crisman. Join us as she shares her amazing story of life change and deciding to be a positive person for her clients. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/26
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From Financial Services Veteran to Tax Preparer with Joel Harworth
Our guest on this episode is Joel Harworth. Join us as he shares his ambitious story of adding on an acquired tax business to his financial services business of 20 years. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/25
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From Animal Surgeon to Tax Professional with Cynthia Shofer, EA
Our guest on this episode is Cynthia Shofer, EA. Join us as she shares her wisdom on the tax industry as a Block Advisor, among her other experiences ranging from air pilot to surgeon. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/24
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From Hotel Room to Tax Practice with Misty Dragon
Our guest on this episode is Misty Dragon. Join us as she shares her story of overcoming her husband's medical bills and having to move cross-country, living out of a hotel to build her tax practice. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/23
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From Mother of Three to Tax Business Franchisee with Nora Garcia
Our guest on this episode is Nora Garcia. Join us as she shares her heart-warming story of motherhood, divorce, and starting her Liberty Tax franchise. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/22
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From Hollywood to Taxes with Beth Lynn Kelly
Our guest on this episode is Beth Lynn Kelly, Tax Chick. Join us as she shares her journey from lawyer to actress to tax professional. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/21
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Starting Over Again with William Marcus Lopez
Our guest on this episode is William Marcus Lopez. Join us as he shares his heart-wrenching story of going from entrepreneur to employee to starting over again in the tax business after his spouse passed away. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/20
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From Poverty to Professional Tax Preparer with Kevin Huston, EA, USTCP
Our guest on this episode is Kevin C. Huston, EA, USTCP. Join us as he shares his moving story of growing up in poverty with his grandmother to finding success as an entrepreneur. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/19
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From Tax Evader to Tax Problem Solver with Carlos Samaniego, EA
Our guest on this episode is Carlos Samaniego, EA, winner of the 2020 My Tax Career Story Contest. Join us as he shares his amazing story of redemption going from a tax evader to self-taught tax pro. He was inspired by a mentor to get into the tax business, and he now acts as a mentor to others as an Enrolled Agent, author, and speaker. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/18
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StorySelling with Nick Nanton
Nick Nanton joins the show to talk about the importance of surrounding yourself with high performers to become one, the traits required to reach the success you want in your career and life, and how your story can be your biggest asset as a tax professional. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/17 In This Conversation We Cover: [01:40] Who is Nick Nanton? [03:09] "You are the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with." —Jim Rohn [03:19] Ben Hardy, one of the top writers on Medium.com, wrote the book Will Power Doesn't Work about how your surroundings dictate who you become [03:57] What kind of decisions you make when your mind gets decision fatigue [04:12] How to set yourself up for making successful decisions by changing your environment [04:44] "Spending time around extraordinary people makes extraordinary become normal." —Nick Nanton [05:00] How Nick's childhood, parents, and growing up in the Caribbean (Barbados) shaped his life and set the foundation for his success [06:05] Why 90% of success is mindset, his early Tony Robbins influence, and his journey trying to become an Olympic tennis athlete [07:00] How choosing you relational environment is not just about money [09:55] The disconnect Nick has learned about the tax professional community that's costing you clients [12:32] Nick's 47 LLCs and his relationship with his tax professional [13:13] "The great news is ... the bar is so low!" —Nick Nanton [14:05] "Most entrepreneurs and successful people become successful in many ways because they break the mold in some shape or form." —Nick Nanton [15:33] The one thing Nick learned about law and why meddling in what you are not best at doesn't serve you [16:27] When my mindset shift happens, how do I go from where I am to where I want to be? [17:25] "Life is based on the exchange of value." —Nick Nanton [18:07] The story about how Nick became a clown for $150/hour [19:10] How to know when you need to hang out with different people [20:02] The mindset shifting story of Nick's driving reason behind so much of what he does today [22:38] The feeling of commoditization among tax professionals and how to stand out [24:45] The tough realization that simply getting past the bar of entry in any field is ensuring you are now just like everybody else [25:31] The story branding and positioning conversation that truly differentiates you [26:28] What is true branding? Why is it not your logo, appearance, products, or services? [26:53] The only thing you have that no one can copy [27:31] Why storytelling is a learned skill and how it gets him into Nashville songwriters rooms [28:24] "A story, in any way, shape or form, can never be too long, just too boring." —Nick Nanton [29:14] How false modesty hurts your story and how to get others to tell your story for you [30:43] The key turning point when you stop storytelling for you and start storytelling for others [32:58] Nick's story about working with his dad and how he successfully works with his family [35:40] What Nick's coach, Dan Sullivan, taught him about unique ability and what you should be paring down your time to focus on daily [38:02] What Nick learned from reading 3 pages of the book, DaVinci and the 40 Answers, and the 2 categories all people fall into [38:50] How to achieve the best outcomes when working and collaborating with others [39:42] What to do when you find you are not good at telling your own story Tax Pro Nation is sponsored by Pronto Tax School, Inc. Sponsored links include: The Pronto Path infographic http://taxpronation.com/path Basic Income Tax (Federal) course link: http://taxpronation.com/basic Business Tax Verified online course link http://taxpronation.com/business To sponsor an episode, please email [email protected] Tax Pro Nation is produced by Podcast Masters
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Strong Marriage, Strong Tax Career with Kathleen Freiburghouse
How do you build a strong marriage while building a strong tax career? Kathleen Freiburghouse brings her wisdom, joy, and humor as she shares timeless lessons that professionals can take to heart in their pursuit of success and happiness. In addition to her other life accomplishments — teaching school for 38 years, obtaining a Master's Degree in Education, being a Catholic nun for 8 years — Kathleen Freiburghouse has been married to a tax business owner for more than 40 years. After four decades of grueling tax seasons, Kathleen and her husband Kent still have one of the most admired and vibrant marriages around. In this episode, Kathleen shares her hard-earned wisdom and unique views on exactly how. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/16 Resources Mentioned: [47:33] How developing empathy in marriage overflows into treating your employees better (Listen to Episode 5 for more insights on employee relationships) [54:30] Jeff shares how many days The ONE Thing by Gary Keller (book) says it takes to form a habit Quotables: [06:57] "That's true love. Beautiful love. To say that your spouse's joy matters so much to you." —Kathleen Freiburghouse [16:30] "I don't want to be looking across the table at somebody in April and have created habits that have nothing to do with intimacy and the ease of marriage." —Kathleen Freiburghouse [21:03] "Know what your shared treasure is." —Kathleen Freiburghouse [25:51] "Many people in this generation think they need more money for their pleasures than they do." —Kathleen Freiburghouse [42:30] "You don't really master marriage. You learn intimacy. You learn empathy. You master a career." —Kathleen Freiburghouse In This Conversation We Cover: [04:14] The irony of getting into the tax business because it's family friendly [05:30] What does an admired marriage look like? [06:57] "That's true love. Beautiful love. To say that your spouse's joy matters so much to you." —Kathleen Freiburghouse [08:07] What women want most in life with their spouse (and what men want) [09:05] How to have fun in your marriage in the midst of pain [11:00] A key question to ask yourself when dating [11:57] How Kathleen drastically changed the normal path of a tax career marriage [16:06] What Kathleen said to all those who doubted she could keep to her values [16:30] "I don't want to be looking across the table at somebody in April and have created habits that have nothing to do with intimacy and the ease of marriage." —Kathleen Freiburghouse [18:10] A thought-provoking story that asks the questions, "Where is your treasure? And do you agree on it in your marriage?" [21:03] "Know what your shared treasure is." —Kathleen Freiburghouse [21:08] How to deal with the stress of uneven income of a tax pro in marriage [25:51] "Many people in this generation think they need more money for their pleasures than they do." —Kathleen Freiburghouse [28:39] A true sadness you must overcome [31:28] What Kathleen has learned about being in a family business [34:38] What to avoid when you get home from work to improve your marriage [36:46] The power of relationship habits as part of your morning routine [38:21] Why feelings should not lead actions [39:26] Some myths about shared values and a surprising finding about couples who bond around making money [42:30] "You don't really master marriage. You learn intimacy. You learn empathy. You master a career." —Kathleen Freiburghouse [43:43] Andy shares his thoughts on why happily married men make more money [47:33] How developing empathy in marriage overflows into treating your employees better (Listen to Episode 5 for more insights on employee relationships) [48:29] Jeff shares a funny story from his dad's Marine Corp experience on good leadership and caring about your people [49:00] How to build the kind of loyalty that works for you for 30 years [50:46] Where do I start to improve my marriage when it's not going well? [54:30] Jeff shares how many days The ONE Thing by Gary Keller (book) says it takes to form a habit Tax Pro Nation is sponsored by Pronto Tax School, Inc. Sponsored links include: The Pronto Path infographic http://taxpronation.com/path Basic Income Tax (Federal) course link: http://taxpronation.com/basic Business Tax Verified online course link http://taxpronation.com/business To sponsor an episode, please email [email protected] Tax Pro Nation is produced by Podcast Masters
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Legitimize Your Hustle with Teowonna Clifton
The Schedule C Queen, Teowonna Clifton, of Simply Taxes of South Carolina, LLC, is establishing her independent tax preparation business in the Columbia local market while focusing on helping entrepreneurs legitimize their side hustles. Join us in this episode of Tax Pro Nation as we listen to her stories and challenges as she grows her tax business through the Elevation Step and beyond. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/15 Resources Mentioned: [01:15] Chauncey Hutter, Jr. Success Summit in Orlando, FL [03:38] How Simply Taxes of South Carolina got its start in an unconventional location [08:27] Teowonna's journey to the Elevation Step on The Pronto Path [16:04] Ways to expand her services during her Stabilization Step In This Conversation We Cover: [01:48] How Teowonna got her start in tax preparation at H&R Block [02:24] Main lessons learned from H&R Block [03:38] How Simply Taxes of South Carolina got its start in an unconventional location [06:35] The challenge of balancing a full-time job and entrepreneurship [08:27] Teowonna's journey to the Elevation Step on The Pronto Path [11:22] The major decision Teowonna faces currently to grow her business [13:02] Teowonna compares current leap versus initial leap into entrepreneurship [15:00] How Teowonna will navigate niching into business taxes while retaining current niche [16:04] Ways to expand her services during her Stabilization Step [17:37] Teowonna's strategy when discussing a price raise with existing clients [20:04] A key client phrase that reveals you are charging too little [22:49] How Teowonna is turning into the "Schedule C Queen" [24:03] Teowonna shares her powerful new message to "Legitimize Your Hustle" [25:42] How Teowonna knew she had a niche forming for her tax business [27:08] The anxiety point for most tax professionals in their growth journey [27:56] What Teowonna is looking for in a team member to add to her team [29:35] A major hiring fear that plagues tax professionals and how to change your view of it Tax Pro Nation is sponsored by Pronto Tax School, Inc. Sponsored links include: The Pronto Path infographic http://taxpronation.com/path Basic Income Tax (Federal) course link: http://taxpronation.com/basic Business Tax Verified online course link http://taxpronation.com/business To sponsor an episode, please email [email protected] Tax Pro Nation is produced by Podcast Masters
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Salesmanship with Chauncey Hutter, Jr.
Chauncey Hutter Jr.'s salesmanship is the core skill he leveraged throughout his tax career. In this episode, he shares his insight, advice, and experience on how you can take advantage of the huge opportunity in the tax business today. He began working in the tax industry in 1990 in his father's two room $50,000 per year tax preparation office. In just a few short years, Chauncey took this small office with a few part-time employees and built a Multi-Million dollar company, with 27,000 clients, over 440 employees, and 15 market areas and across three states (in ten years). Chauncey sold his ownership stake in the family business in 2007 to concentrate full-time on coaching and consulting business owners and entrepreneurs to greater levels of success. Chauncey has worked directly with over 3,700 tax business owner clients, helping create Million Dollar breakthroughs along the way. Over the past several years, he has seen such an amazing opportunity in the tax industry that he is now getting back into owning tax businesses. Listen in on what he sees, why he is getting back into the tax business as an owner, and how you can also capitalize on it by using salesmanship and unconventional marketing. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: http://taxpronation.com/14 Resources Mentioned: [55:00] Chauncey's book BLOCKBUSTER: How to Build a Million Dollar Tax Business Quotables: [11:04] "If you don't have marketing and salesmanship at the top of the list as far as priority, then you are really not stewarding the business well." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [11:18] "If everyone else in the business does what you're doing, you're probably not going to jump up ahead of them." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [12:28] "I would rather be stressed for 100 days to take the pressure off the rest of the year." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [13:30] "Bigger paydays bring bigger problems too. But I prefer having those bigger problems." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [16:51] "Tax professionals are sitting in the catbird seat." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [26:13] "At the end of the day, it all comes down to the trust you have with the client." —Andy Frye In This Conversation We Cover: [04:07] Why trying to be the best and makes sales early in your career can take care of your legacy [05:33] Chauncey's family dynamics as he tripled his family's tax business quickly [06:32] A quick tip on how to maximize your profitability while taking your first tax class [07:51] How a thriving, growing business can afford family vacations during tax season [08:42] How self-awareness can fast track your success by matching skills with market opportunities [09:42] Why a focus on selling and marketing is critical enough to hire out if you cannot or will not yourself [11:04] "If you don't have marketing and salesmanship at the top of the list as far as priority, then you are really not stewarding the business well." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [11:18] "If everyone else in the business does what you're doing, you're probably not going to jump up ahead of them." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [12:28] "I would rather be stressed for 100 days to take the pressure off the rest of the year." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [13:30] "Bigger paydays bring bigger problems too. But I prefer having those bigger problems." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [13:55] Chauncey shares how the tax business has changed since he saw his success [14:43] The Commoditization of the Tax Business over the last 20 years [15:16] Chauncey's view that the biggest problem is the biggest opportunity [16:51] "Tax professionals are sitting in the catbird seat." —Chauncey Hutter, Jr. [18:17] Why now is the time while tax pros give up on the Trump Tax Law to get into the tax business [19:24] How Chauncey is following his own advice and getting back into the tax business as an owner [22:26] What a tax industry deal looks like to sell a tax practice and some ideas to make it more profitable for both the buyer and the seller [25:06] How many years you will typically be expected to work in your business after you sell it [26:13] "At the end of the day, it all comes down to the trust you have with the client." —Andy Frye [26:42] Why Jeff and Chauncey are offended at the sale terms most tax pros get [27:14] How to put yourself in the best position to get the best terms [27:37] Why the Stabilization Step in the Pronto Path is so important to master [30:16] What the best and little known areas are for adding services to your tax business [33:22] The challenges of passing a business to a family member [35:36] The sad truth of having to stop enabling family members and letting them go [38:04] The main reason why tax businesses do not scale and how Chauncey scaled after the first tax season [41:03] Funny stories about why opening new locations and scaling your business is not all roses [42:15] Turning crap into clients: An example of why Chauncey is a master marketer [44:55] The key metrics to consider when buying a tax business [46:58] Why the Refund Anticipation Loan (RAL) of the 1990's might make a comeback [50:38] How important tax education and training is to growing your tax business [53:22] How one tax pro turned the sale of his tax business into an annuity-like payment [55:00] Chauncey's book BLOCKBUSTER: How to Build a Million Dollar Tax Business [55:44] The #1 "starving crowd" that needs the most help right now in the tax industry [57:00] A shocking truth about the large big box tax franchises [59:39] If you are a business owner and just want to get out, prepare for this [01:00:25] A winning strategy if you are 2-3 years away from selling your business Tax Pro Nation is sponsored by Pronto Tax School, Inc. 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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Tax Pro Nation is the show for independent tax professionals. Whether you're thinking about getting into the tax business to make extra money part-time or you're a seasoned tax entrepreneur dreaming of creating the next nationwide tax franchise — or like most of our listeners, you're somewhere in between — welcome home.
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Imelda Ledesma & Andy Frye, EA | Pronto Tax School
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